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"I’m a little confused.... In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink..... Why should the organizers make a profit?" Maybe if they have hired a venue. | |||
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"I’m a little confused.... In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink..... Why should the organizers make a profit?" Why should they eat or drink for free? | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something" During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " You get to network an meet people you possibly wouldn't though. | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " Then organise yoyur own events? | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " Maybe they had to pay a deposit | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " Did that pay for any of your food, ie a deposit each? | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes Then organise yoyur own events?" Did I twist your ganzi? Not everyone is so versed with swinging in the UK | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes Then organise yoyur own events? Did I twist your ganzi? Not everyone is so versed with swinging in the UK" I;m not sure what a ganzi is or how you;d twist it 
If you don't want to pay to go to munches then surely the choices are obvious. Don't go. Go to ones that don't charge (guessing that's not an option). Organise your own free events.
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs." You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..." She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..." £5-£10 ain't gonna break the bank. It's these organised gangbangs charging £80 quid a pop for sloppy 10ths that are gonna get the unverified single guys.  | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..." I might be hilarious but I've also been to more swinging socials and kink munches than I can remember and even organised a few socials. I'm honestly not sure what advice you are seeking or the point you are trying to make. It seems to have gone from a grumble that events should be free to a hypothetical scenario of events being organised to rip off singke men and that organisers run events as a business and not to give back to he scene | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..." Why don't you check out my post in UK forum and have a look at it. Then you will see the list of people who express an interest in comparison to who actually attend. You say it's a business. Explain how when it's ran once a year? Be some social that for me to make a living off wouldn't it?? Like seriously how many people would need to attend for me to live on that as an income for an entire year? That's the purpose of a business isn't it? To be able to live of the earnings it makes? Maybe you should speak to the organisers and people who have attended previous events to get a grasp of why they take the time and the risks with there own finances around arranging a social event and attending them too. | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. " Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge | |||
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"What we have here is a confusion over the word "social" the American = drinks and a meal, pay for what you eat and drink. U.K. an organised party in a hired hall or room with a DJ pay, to cover costs" I wouldn't call that a social. It's an event. | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge" Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to. I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. | |||
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"What we have here is a confusion over the word "social" the American = drinks and a meal, pay for what you eat and drink. U.K. an organised party in a hired hall or room with a DJ pay, to cover costs" There are plenty of socials in the UK that meet your first description. Not every social is a big one with multiple forum threads and huge attendance lists | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world..." How is my post hilarious ? If you're unhappy with the charge the organiser is making the choice is yours attend or not ? Advice is one thing it's up-to the person whether they take that advice ..they have a choice accept it or ignore it . The socials I attend have a strict numbers limit on guys attending so it doesn't become a sausage fest. I can imagine the organising deposits decorations etc will come at an initial cost hence the small contribution asked to cover those costs. There are lots of philanthropic folk in business, maybe you're not meeting them ..there are though. 
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to. I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. " Yes I organise socials myself for up to 100 people so know what they entail. My understanding of her post was not that she'd lost money, that was her costs and hence an explanation of why a charge to attend was necessary | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... She sounds like an idiot then. You can have an organised social in a pub for free. People buy their own drinks. If mem are so desperate to pay then some wolf will fleece them if they allow that to happen. A fool and his money don’t stay together for long. Harsh calling her an idiot. She was actually just explaining why there is a charge for some socials as for her next one she's spent £150 which I imagine she'll recoup with a nominal charge Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to. I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. " Right twice now you have called me an idiot. The first time I let it go. What's your problem with me? It's not the first thread were you have been clever towards something I have said? | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. You and bike monkey are hilarious..... Every single guy asking for advice on getting a meet on the forums are advised to go to a group social or club.... With the amount of single guys on this site.... I can see people organizing socials for financial gain and being predatory to unverified single guys..... One poster said She is negative $150 from organizing a social..... Why would someone spend money and not try to make a profit? Please forgive me .... I don’t run into altruistic people in the business world... I might be hilarious but I've also been to more swinging socials and kink munches than I can remember and even organised a few socials. I'm honestly not sure what advice you are seeking or the point you are trying to make. It seems to have gone from a grumble that events should be free to a hypothetical scenario of events being organised to rip off singke men and that organisers run events as a business and not to give back to he scene" You know why I love the internet..... it’s because I can interact with people and learn something new..... On a popular site or this site.... I can organize a social munch In seconds..... We are meeting at the Hotel Bar at the Marriott Marquee in Midtown Manhattan at 4 pm before heading down to the Halloween parade in the west village...... On Halloween Depending on how many people show up to the bar. I can decide to get a table or just have everyone socialize at the bar... I didn’t have to leave a deposit nor do I have to reserve a separate room ...... This how I have done it for as long as I have organized socials and gangbangs... I didn’t every charge a soul or would never put up my personal money ....... So your comment was cheeky because you’re acting like $5-$10 is the problem.... What I now realize is these socials are really party’s and a all night affair....... To the host , I wasn’t having a dog at you.... I thought your social was like a happy hour at a pub.... | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs." What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs | |||
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"We've never paid to attend one." I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... | |||
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"We've never paid to attend one. I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... " | |||
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"We've never paid to attend one. I was cajoled out of 2 quid for a raffle ticket at the last Manc Social that I attended. I should have waited for the next strip as that was won. I'm still waiting to hear back from the Trading Standards Authority..... " But it will make a child very happy on their birthday  | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs" Haven't got a breakdown.. dj , door staff, venue hire (possibly free) decoration s for theme. | |||
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"It seems to me that OP has allowed his US experience to colour his UK expectations" Speak like an American and spell color correctly, then he might understand you | |||
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" Speak like an American and spell color correctly, then he might understand you "You assume that to be my intention?  | |||
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"If you're unhappy with the cost contribution etc.. it's your choice to attend or not , I attend a few socials last I attended a charge contribution of £5 was asked for to cover costs. What were the costs do you know? I think the OP is talking about a meet up in a pub without any costs Haven't got a breakdown.. dj , door staff, venue hire (possibly free) decoration s for theme. " In which case I don't think that is what the OP is talking about | |||
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"I’m a little confused.... In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink..... Why should the organizers make a profit?" entrepreneurs maybe, good looking sexy wife maybe, pimp maybe | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " 5 minutes? If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated either grateful acceptances. Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it. | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes 5 minutes? If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances. Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it. " | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes 5 minutes? If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances. Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it. " stingy byron? | |||
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" I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes " 
Use your charm to meet all these delightful people, who are brought together by the hard work of the organiser, for free then, by not going. See how far you get! | |||
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"Looks to me like a terminology issue .... I've been to free socials in a pub where you buy your own drinks. I've been to organised socials where you pay entry to cover the costs of a venue,dj etc. And I've been to some charity socials where you pay a fee to cover costs and any excess goes to charity. All of them were my choice to attend. I'm a firm believer in voting with your feet..... if you don't want to pay to enter something. Don't go. Simples "yes this and I've been to socials in night clubs , people's homes and pubs, only money involved is entry to club and what you want to drink I'm going to a social in Kettering soon will be fun | |||
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"I’m a little confused.... In America a social is called a munch.... people meet in a restaurant/bar and pay for whatever they eat or drink..... Why should the organizers make a profit?" Language semantics seem to be your biggest problem OP. A social in the UK can vary from 2 people having a coffee to 100+ in private hired space with entertainment. Costs and therefore prices vary accordingly. I am sure the same applies in the USA, though they may use different names. Bottom line is the organisers offer it up, the attendees choose to go along. | |||
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"why wouldn't you pay for what you have eaten? or am i missing something During a social everyone has separate checks and pays for whatever they eat or drink..... It’s usually just 2-4 tables in the back of a bar/restaurant.... I don’t understand why I should pay $5-$10 dollars for someone calling a restaurant and reserving 2-4 tables... it takes 5 minutes 5 minutes? If I were you I'd PM everyone who organises socials and offer your services. You'll be inundated *with their* grateful acceptances. Notwithstanding default option 1; If you don't like something, don't do it. stingy byron? " Not really.
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" Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to. I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. " actually.... the meaning of the word "social" has been co-opted... it was the other way round.... the original meaning of the "social" was the group event... non play in a vanilla enviroment, it was so people could network and get to know others... no the term has been hijacked to mean any sort of meet... oh, and to the question as to why people organise them... well, when i did the first newcastle event 10 years ago, it was a case of everyone grumbling as to why there were no events going on... but people not getting off their arses to do anything about it.... easy to complain... if everyone waited for someone else to do something, then nothing would get done! and no one else decided to step up... I did!!! I was the one who put my money and my time into it!!! if 120 people swear blind they are going to turn up.. and on the night only 80 do... thats not the fault of the organiser who has put on stuff and figured they would cover so they aren't out of pocket! when you put your own arse on the line, then you get to complain... until then.... no! you should all the thank organisers for going out of their way to do this... its a thankless task at the best of time would you rather complain about a social that charges a little too much.... or not have socials at all! | |||
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"Isn’t a munch an agreed upon meeting place? Like your local pub or restaurant. Not sure the venue would neccessarily know the purpose of the gathering... or I might be wrong??" Yes you’re correct.... that was my confusion... We call socials , a munch in the USA. So people just come to a pub or restaurant to eat and drink... it’s not sexual at all... You could show up , not eat or drink , and it’s usually after work.... The socials described in this thread are non play party’s in the USA.... That was my confusion as to why organizers wanted to charge a fee.... | |||
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" Right, I’ve actually read the thread (god knows why cos I’m watching a film) but in the UK, a social is usually just an informal free to attend meet up in a bar or cafe or pub, an organised social is more organised with more people and more often than not, free to attend. She is an idiot if she made a loss. It means her business plan was flawed. It means her costs were higher than her income. I have no intention of ever paying to attend a social simply because I don’t need to. I’m not exactly certain what point you’re trying to make. actually.... the meaning of the word "social" has been co-opted... it was the other way round.... the original meaning of the "social" was the group event... non play in a vanilla enviroment, it was so people could network and get to know others... no the term has been hijacked to mean any sort of meet... oh, and to the question as to why people organise them... well, when i did the first newcastle event 10 years ago, it was a case of everyone grumbling as to why there were no events going on... but people not getting off their arses to do anything about it.... easy to complain... if everyone waited for someone else to do something, then nothing would get done! and no one else decided to step up... I did!!! I was the one who put my money and my time into it!!! if 120 people swear blind they are going to turn up.. and on the night only 80 do... thats not the fault of the organiser who has put on stuff and figured they would cover so they aren't out of pocket! when you put your own arse on the line, then you get to complain... until then.... no! you should all the thank organisers for going out of their way to do this... its a thankless task at the best of time would you rather complain about a social that charges a little too much.... or not have socials at all!" Thank you for clearing that up | |||
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