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"I (we) lost two It's a shitter We'd have been great parents I sometimes wonder 'what if' and how life would have been with them Then 'rational' me kicks in and thinks that my life has been full of twists, turns, fun, excitement and love anyway so I am already richer than some It's better not to ponder " I'm so sorry to hear that | |||
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"I (we) lost two It's a shitter We'd have been great parents I sometimes wonder 'what if' and how life would have been with them Then 'rational' me kicks in and thinks that my life has been full of twists, turns, fun, excitement and love anyway so I am already richer than some It's better not to ponder " Just knowing you can give unconditional love certainly would’ve made you a great parent | |||
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"Im feeling like im at the point right now where i have no idea if i want kids. Id always say to exes, i want kids later in life. My friends and brother have kids. I love my niece. But i dont see the day to day effort that goes into everything. Its a major shift in lifestyle and theres a huge cost involvement. Hence wanting to put myself in a good position before deciding too. Would enjoy hearing from people of all stages in life kids or not. Thanks ![]() 'When' is a great question to ask. As a man, you are the primary provider because you cannot breast feed, nor is it very likely you have the right personality mix to be the primary care giver for the essential first years. You're 28 and frankly the economy has been shit your entire working life. The probability that you've established yourself enough for it to be a good time to have kids is very low and that's not your fault. This is of course all probability based and maybe your individual circumstances are such that you inherited a castle and a trust fund when you graduated and never have to work another day. But I'm just saying that in general, most men your age would benefit enormously by waiting until their early thirties. Saying you don't love your kids is probably one of the biggest taboos imaginable. But listen carefully to the words of many parents and you hear resentment. The kids cries too much, shits too much, won't sleep properly. I want to bitch slap these parents, this is what kids do. Yes, kids are inconvinient. Don't introduce inconvenience into your life until everything else is running smoothly. | |||
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"Im feeling like im at the point right now where i have no idea if i want kids. Id always say to exes, i want kids later in life. My friends and brother have kids. I love my niece. But i dont see the day to day effort that goes into everything. Its a major shift in lifestyle and theres a huge cost involvement. Hence wanting to put myself in a good position before deciding too. Would enjoy hearing from people of all stages in life kids or not. Thanks ![]() Sometimes I read posts on here and know it's just time to walk away | |||
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"You're 28 OP you've got time. I chose not to have children - I'm not a fan. I loved my nieces and nephews when they were little - but I'm glad they didn't live with me! I don't feel love when I see kids I see inconvenience and boredom." There's a lot of inconvenience to see. Nothing wrong with not wanting them if you don't feel a burning urge to have them. You gotta really want them or they will annoy the shit out of you. | |||
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"I decided at a very young age (teenage years) that I didn't want kids. No maternal instinct in me at all. Love my niece to pieces, but I'd never want to inflict me on a small child 24/7." Same here and I've got nephews as well. I did the stepfather thing for 9 years, but it wasn't for me. Parenting is bloody hard, being a step is even harder... | |||
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"Imagine getting up at 3am and feeling absolute love to the person who woke you. Those little eyes that watch you as you feed them, their need for you, for their basic needs. To clean,feed and comfort them when they’re at their most vulnerable. " You can get that from a cat or dog without getting a round of tutts when you leave them home all day with a bowl of food on the floor and a flap in the door. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Imagine getting up at 3am and feeling absolute love to the person who woke you. Those little eyes that watch you as you feed them, their need for you, for their basic needs. To clean,feed and comfort them when they’re at their most vulnerable. You can get that from a cat or dog without getting a round of tutts when you leave them home all day with a bowl of food on the floor and a flap in the door. ![]() ![]() ![]() Amen ![]() | |||
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"Honestly. You will regret your loss of freedom and possibly sanity. But not enough to not do it. you will regret not doing it. Good luck. " Not everyone who doesn't have children regrets not having children. | |||
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"Just do it .Youll enjoy it .Go replicate ,it's the biological reason you are here.I have 2 awesome kids . ![]() Wouldn't it be better for the planet if we all had 1 or 0 children? | |||
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"Imagine getting up at 3am and feeling absolute love to the person who woke you. Those little eyes that watch you as you feed them, their need for you, for their basic needs. To clean,feed and comfort them when they’re at their most vulnerable. You can get that from a cat or dog without getting a round of tutts when you leave them home all day with a bowl of food on the floor and a flap in the door. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I often think that the people who say this type of thing are extremely selfish and to some degree, ignorant. The reason being is that it’s often said to those who desperately want children but can’t. It makes me think, if only you knew what it’s like | |||
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"Imagine getting up at 3am and feeling absolute love to the person who woke you. Those little eyes that watch you as you feed them, their need for you, for their basic needs. To clean,feed and comfort them when they’re at their most vulnerable. You can get that from a cat or dog without getting a round of tutts when you leave them home all day with a bowl of food on the floor and a flap in the door. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I have nieces and nephews, friends with kids, neighbours with a bloody rugby team and i grew up with two pain in the arse siblings...all just reinforcing that i don't like kids at all. You don't need to have kids to know what they're like to be round and once you have one to find out, you can't push it back up if its not what you hoped for. Its no more selfish to not have any than it is to have them. Some parents are the most entitled people i've come across- expecting the world to bend over backwards to accomodate them and their kids and they really shouldn't be parents. I'd be a shit parent myself, so i decided years ago it wasn't going to happen- not selfish, just the most sensible decision i've ever made. As for it being said insensitively to people who want but can't have kids, unless you're wearing a T-shirt proclaming that, how would anyone know...bit like people expecting and qustioning me why i'm not married with several offspring- just because its assumed that thats what everyone does? | |||
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"Just do it .Youll enjoy it .Go replicate ,it's the biological reason you are here.I have 2 awesome kids . ![]() Fertility rates are rapidly declining relax. ![]() | |||
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"Imagine getting up at 3am and feeling absolute love to the person who woke you. Those little eyes that watch you as you feed them, their need for you, for their basic needs. To clean,feed and comfort them when they’re at their most vulnerable. You can get that from a cat or dog without getting a round of tutts when you leave them home all day with a bowl of food on the floor and a flap in the door. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I almost replied in the same vein. I'm hoping that the poster wasn't calling those people who decide not to have any children ignorant and selfish, just the people who do and complain and say that they wished they didn't have them. If it is the former, I will get on my high horse and say how dare you judge me and my decision. If the latter, how is someone truly going to know what type of parent they are going to be until they have kids? I am sorry to hear that you are/were having difficulties. But please don't judge others for their decisions. | |||
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"I can't have them, don't know how I truly feel. We are a big Italian/Irish family and family is everything. Think it will break my parents heart, just can't bring myself to tell them ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've never written about this before in the forum. I (we) lost our first son, still born at full term. Even before he was born my life was changed completely. The all consuming love sense of wonder elation and fear that somehow I would never be good enough as a Dad takes over completely. That feeling of excitement and that this new person is the one you really would give your own life to protect, I don't have the words to ever describe. Yet it was taken away in the blink of an eye. I'm blessed, unbelievablely lucky, our second son survived, just. He's now finished Uni, has his own life, and is both my son and my best friend. No matter what any of us think before we have kids, it will never come close to the pure joy they bring to our lives, even with all the sometimes difficult things life may throw at us. I have only one regret, that my son does not have his brother with him... " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I was not a good father to my 3 kids but I loved them dearly. When I got divorced from there mother they decided or should I say there grandmother decided they should not be involved with me. At first I saw them regularly then they stopped wanting to come out with me and we drifted apart. 1 day I got a call to say my son who was 21 had been in a car accident and was on life support before I could ask which hospital he was in they hung up he died the next day that was 13 years ago and now I have only spoken to my 2 daughters twice since but I still miss them" That is just heart breaking. | |||
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"I kept waiting for the day I thought I had grown up enough to have children but it never came. Concluded that being grown up enough probably has nothing to do with it I just hadn't been with the right person. I still can't honestly say I want children, I'm far too selfish and honestly don't think I would be a good father. When I think about having children all that enters my head is how much it will cost me and how much it will negatively affect my life style. Kids are probably not meant for me." I disagree. You have all the ingredients needed to be an excellent father figure from my observations. | |||
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"I have no idea how I know I want children and that I’m ready for them. I just know that I am. " When you can't have your own biological children you quickly realise it's not just a simple case of deciding to have children,you may decide when is the right time,but it's part of most people's makeup the need to have them. | |||
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"I can't have them, don't know how I truly feel. We are a big Italian/Irish family and family is everything. Think it will break my parents heart, just can't bring myself to tell them ![]() I totally apologise if I’m reading into this statement wrong but you’ve got to put yourself first in this situation and decide what’s best for you- and then proceed. It might break their hearts but it’s your life. I have pushy parents and everyone in a large family expects me to continue the family line by default, but I don’t see it as anyone else’s business and sometimes too aggressively I defend my own space after they tried to dictate my life to me. | |||
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" Amen ![]() How is it selfish and ignorant to bring an unwanted life into the world? There are enough unwanted babies / children in the world already that could be adopted by people that can't have them. There are many things that I want that I can't have - but I don't throw insults at the people that have them. ![]() | |||
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"If anyone starts a thread entitled 'the last thread to make you cry' then this one will be up there Jeebs there are parts that make for tough reading I do love how there is the odd thread where the fucking gets laid to one side and people open up about the most personal things It is so easy to forget about the person behind a few risque photos and sometimes, through threads like this, the shared experience just brings out the basic humanity in us all It's almost cathartic It's Fab x " ![]() | |||
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"I can't have them, don't know how I truly feel. We are a big Italian/Irish family and family is everything. Think it will break my parents heart, just can't bring myself to tell them ![]() No apology needed ![]() ![]() | |||
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