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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Fuck em..... 
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke .....
Fuck em.....
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And like someone else said, fuck ‘em. Metaphorically, not literally
Although you could literally too. And show how you couldn’t give a shite!
I know you both have lots of fun on the scene and I’m sure that won’t be diminished by some randomers on an Internet sex site!! | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "It's a forum and as everything you read you don't agree with, others won't agree with everything as you see it, it's life and many here will judge you for your comments, if you cared what they said you wouldn't be here and commenting and does it really matter what people think of you if you don't know them? | |||
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"It’s a shame that thread filled up last night , as pretty much everyone had gone to sleep by then ! Thanks for the replies so far "I do occasionally make good threads | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?! "Exactly what I was going to say | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... It's a forum and as everything you read you don't agree with, others won't agree with everything as you see it, it's life and many here will judge you for your comments, if you cared what they said you wouldn't be here and commenting and does it really matter what people think of you if you don't know them? "There’s little or no point in reading or contributing to a forum if you don’t care . And if of course it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things . It’s just a shame that a swinging site such as this is attracting people who have no concept of wha swinging is . | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?! "Thanks for saving me the effort of typing this.
I concur, you're not less of a man.
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"Opinions are like arseholes..... " A common misconception... Opinions are actually like orgasms...mine's more important and I don't really care if you have one  | |||
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"It’s a shame that thread filled up last night , as pretty much everyone had gone to sleep by then ! Thanks for the replies so far
I do occasionally make good threads "You do indeed | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? " Absolutely not. " Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? " No, the two things would not be correlated - not saying you are unable to satisfy her, just that if that were the case it is distinct and separate from your enjoyment of her having fun with others. " Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? " Not necessarily. Maybe, maybe not. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Absolutely not. Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? No, the two things would not be correlated - not saying you are unable to satisfy her, just that if that were the case it is distinct and separate from your enjoyment of her having fun with others. Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? Not necessarily. Maybe, maybe not. " This response reminds me of a poster I haven’t seen on here for a while | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?! "I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft. | |||
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"Your far from being a lesser man. If its something you and your wife enjoy then who the hell gives others the right to judge. Sex and fun comes in a million different ways. Only your views count. Keep enjoying xx" Roger that quote | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Absolutely not. Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? No, the two things would not be correlated - not saying you are unable to satisfy her, just that if that were the case it is distinct and separate from your enjoyment of her having fun with others. Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? Not necessarily. Maybe, maybe not. This response reminds me of a poster I haven’t seen on here for a while "I was quote/unquoting long before he joined the site. Pffft. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Absolutely not. Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? No, the two things would not be correlated - not saying you are unable to satisfy her, just that if that were the case it is distinct and separate from your enjoyment of her having fun with others. Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? Not necessarily. Maybe, maybe not. This response reminds me of a poster I haven’t seen on here for a while
I was quote/unquoting long before he joined the site. Pffft. "I’ll tell him you miss him though. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "I totally agree with this.... So glad someone else is on the same wave length as me.... Do as you please it's your life x | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft."If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man . In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen . | |||
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"I think the very fact that you enjoy seeing your wife with other guys makes you a perfect husband!! Opinions are like arseholes..... "
I'd marry for the first time, if I could find this type of hubby x | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft.
If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man .
In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen ."Oh, I totally understood that. My reply here was to Gemini Man saying it made you *more* of a man. | |||
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"Well. If you're both happy who cares. More to the point why ask people if their views will upset you? I love me. I daresay if I asked everyone if they did I'd get an answer to make me question myself. Strangers don't have the power to effect that. X " I didn’t ask anyone on the thread that caused me to write this one . I’m not really that bothered if the truth be known , it’s as I said earlier - so many people joining the site don’t seem to get what swinging is . | |||
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Give them just enough rope, play them like the entitled, boastful failing at life 'fish' that they are. Swinging isn't a stop gap. Its a mindset, its what defines us as sexual beings. We're not here to take advantage. We're here to share experience. As often, or not, as we like, because we know the pleasure is soo much deeper than just "fucking some guys wife" or looking for the elusive completely faithful fwb that makes me feel "modern progressive and empowered"... its called a fucking boyfriend! You're no different! It's not about how many fabs
You've got, or how many veris from however many socials you've been to! But we know all this...
So....get your rod out, sit with me on the edge of the pond, and let's catch some record breakers! | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "With all the couples I have met over the years, never once did I think the husband was inadequate, whether he joined in or just enjoyed watching. I was just an enhancement to what I assumed and very often knew was an already fantastic sex life. | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft.
If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man .
In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen ."Which thread? Please post as it sounds like our block list needs some addition... | |||
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" This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Preach | |||
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"I've learnt really not to care what others think of what we do. The forum folk in the majority are here for different reasons to us. I don't expect them to get it. That's not a criticism it's just the way it is. So in answer to your question... it takes a strong secure man in a strong happy relationship to be able to watch his wife with others. Not a lesser man at all. " I agree with that, many people would get jealous, yet we find it enhances our relationship. It’s a shared pleasure and it’s not about not being able to satisfy each other. X | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft.
If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man .
In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen .
Which thread? Please post as it sounds like our block list needs some addition..."Clem’s thread to the guys... | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "If, as you say, you know the answers to the questions you’re asking, why are you asking them again on here? | |||
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"I remeber chatting to the male half of a couple i knew at one of the old mega munches from years ago. He was quite amused at telling me how a colleague approached him at work to show him a picture he'd fould on t'interweb of the guys wife greedily nibbling on two cocks. His retort to his colleague was 'bloody hell, her tits look fantastic'. A little surprised, his workmate asked 'are you not shocked to find a picture of your wife on the internet, having sex with two other men?' 'Not really' he replied 'Who do you think was holding the bloody camera?' "This literally made me l.o.l. lots | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... It's a forum and as everything you read you don't agree with, others won't agree with everything as you see it, it's life and many here will judge you for your comments, if you cared what they said you wouldn't be here and commenting and does it really matter what people think of you if you don't know them?
There’s little or no point in reading or contributing to a forum if you don’t care . And if of course it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things .
It’s just a shame that a swinging site such as this is attracting people who have no concept of wha swinging is ."swinging is different for everyone, people approach the site and how they use it very differently and people have very different views on certain aspects of it, to my way of thinking if you're happy with what you are doing that's entirely your choice as is being pissed off with people not agreeing with your choices but the flip side is they can be pissed off to. | |||
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"The thread was called Guys , if you weren’t single " Oh that guy! You have to be pretty special to have admin delete threads you start within 2 weeks of joining. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke .....
If, as you say, you know the answers to the questions you’re asking, why are you asking them again on here? "To see what other people think . What’s up with that ? | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke .....
If, as you say, you know the answers to the questions you’re asking, why are you asking them again on here?
To see what other people think .
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"I dunno, you haven't told us how many times a week you shag your wife and if you struggle to get it up and keep it up. Think about it while I get a pen and paper. Brb..." Ha ha ... at least double figures , and never a problem getting it up | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft.
If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man .
In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen .
Oh, I totally understood that. My reply here was to Gemini Man saying it made you *more* of a man. "I agree that being a man or not doesn't and shouldn't come into it - my response was purely into any assertion that being able to share something as intimate as this with your partner makes you *less* of a man and stand by that response in that context | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "100% agree with this post it seems to becoming more common. | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?!
I disagree that enjoying or not enjoying watching one’s partner play with others has any correlation to being “a man” or not. Absolutely daft.
If you look at the thread that filled up , you will see that it was the person who wrote on it that suggested that men that enjoy their partner playing with others is less of a man .
In fact I think it came about as a result of someone suggesting that a relationship must be in a solid and secure relationship for it to happen .
Oh, I totally understood that. My reply here was to Gemini Man saying it made you *more* of a man.
I agree that being a man or not doesn't and shouldn't come into it - my response was purely into any assertion that being able to share something as intimate as this with your partner makes you *less* of a man and stand by that response in that context "That’s fair enough, and I get what you mean - and I’m certainly not advocating the opposite - but I stand by the fact that to conflate the two even to make a point is misleading. But I get your point. | |||
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"I've learnt really not to care what others think of what we do. The forum folk in the majority are here for different reasons to us. I don't expect them to get it. That's not a criticism it's just the way it is. So in answer to your question... it takes a strong secure man in a strong happy relationship to be able to watch his wife with others. Not a lesser man at all. " Pretty spot on.. There are many different types of play that people enjoy, some we will never see how the particular thing they do is erotic, sexy etc but it's their thing so fair play.. | |||
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" attitude exhibited by some well established guys on here which is disturbing.
1. She's not MY property.
2. Even if I'm "only" watching, WE are sharing this experience.
3. I hope that one day you find a relationship as committed and intimate as ours. | |||
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"I dunno, you haven't told us how many times a week you shag your wife and if you struggle to get it up and keep it up. Think about it while I get a pen and paper. Brb... Ha ha ... at least double figures , and never a problem getting it up "You da man then | |||
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"Its the "No way would i let MY wife do this! " attitude exhibited by some well established guys on here which is disturbing.
1. She's not MY property.
2. Even if I'm "only" watching, WE are sharing this experience.
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Here’s to the lesser man club; i’ve been a member for years and love it | |||
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"To be fair, I don't think this place was ever a swing site and was always a "no-strings-sex" site." I was under the impression it was a swingers site from the name, I’m not sure why it would be called what it is if there wasn’t the intent for it to be a swingers site, or the swingers chat forum etc. But understood that many use it as an NSA sex site too. | |||
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"I remeber chatting to the male half of a couple i knew at one of the old mega munches from years ago. He was quite amused at telling me how a colleague approached him at work to show him a picture he'd fould on t'interweb of the guys wife greedily nibbling on two cocks. His retort to his colleague was 'bloody hell, her tits look fantastic'. A little surprised, his workmate asked 'are you not shocked to find a picture of your wife on the internet, having sex with two other men?' 'Not really' he replied 'Who do you think was holding the bloody camera?' " | |||
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That would be confusing the dynamic... are you a real woman? "Don’t you mean does it make me *more* or *less* of a woman? Or are you asking what’s on my birth certificate and how do I self-identify? The latter would be I identify currently as poorly! | |||
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I get that, but let's consider that swinging is not a subject you can bring up in polite society. We all know we'll get judged for it in the local pub and expect that. So forgive us for thinking that we could come on a website with the word "swingers" in the url and have a favourable crowd... "Exactly this
It’s a sad state of affairs when you post on a swinging site forum and get told by fellow swingers that it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks , especially a stranger on a forum .
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They are jealous. Swingers are the most honest and moral people in the world. Because they have been honest about what they like. Fuck em!"That might be a bit of a stretch
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"Everyone is made fantastic points that I 100% agree with. However, it's a bit of a shame that no-one that doesn't see our point of view on swinging couples has made a comment here. PS message me or my hubby if you fancy Fucking my husband will I watch "I've told you I'm not that kinda biker  | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... " I'm trying to phrase this in a way that won't pick up a ban. Sometimes you have to see comments in the context of who is making them and what their other comments on the forum would indicate about how well educated and evidence-based their opinions are. | |||
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That thread was something else mate it opened my eyes on a few thing. I even learned a little being the delicate little wall flower I am to do what you both do I can't see either of you not being comfortable and completely secure in your relationship and your confidence must be threw the roof. Truth be known I'm more than a little jealous. Think I need to find a Mrs again."We always learn a little every day , at least hopefully we do or it’s a pretty pointless existence . Unfortunately some of the things we learn aren’t in line with what we deem to be good , and the attitude of certain people on that thread were certainly not in line with my way of thinking when it comes to swinging . We are very lucky , our relationship is as good as we could have ever dreamed it could be . Two like minded people experiencing everything possible together , with nothing to hold us back . Well other than life , kids , work , heart attacks and so on lol . Hopefully you will find a Mrs and you two will be as happy as we are | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... " Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... I'm trying to phrase this in a way that won't pick up a ban. Sometimes you have to see comments in the context of who is making them and what their other comments on the forum would indicate about how well educated and evidence-based their opinions are. " ^^ this
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That thread was something else mate it opened my eyes on a few thing. I even learned a little being the delicate little wall flower I am to do what you both do I can't see either of you not being comfortable and completely secure in your relationship and your confidence must be threw the roof. Truth be known I'm more than a little jealous. Think I need to find a Mrs again.
We always learn a little every day , at least hopefully we do or it’s a pretty pointless existence . Unfortunately some of the things we learn aren’t in line with what we deem to be good , and the attitude of certain people on that thread were certainly not in line with my way of thinking when it comes to swinging .
We are very lucky , our relationship is as good as we could have ever dreamed it could be . Two like minded people experiencing everything possible together , with nothing to hold us back . Well other than life , kids , work , heart attacks and so on lol .
Hopefully you will find a Mrs and you two will be as happy as we are "I can only live in hope but at 50 and set in my ways the way I am it's not likely but never say never | |||
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You know the answer (as you said, I know you wouldn’t have asked it otherwise) and yes I wonder how many swingers, along the spectrum of what would be classified as kink, are swingers.
Small percentage I suspect, a large number of chancers, once again I suspect.
As a couple you have always had it together, (from my perspective), may I suggest stepping back and engage with the swingers not the chancers, leave the angst to them.
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I get that, but let's consider that swinging is not a subject you can bring up in polite society. We all know we'll get judged for it in the local pub and expect that. So forgive us for thinking that we could come on a website with the word "swingers" in the url and have a favourable crowd... "It's only forumites here commenting, the been here done that crowd, many have been here many years and have something to say on every subject just because it says ' swinger'doesnt mean you are one it just means you are on the site, I'm not a fan of pegging in my case it doesn't mean I disagree with peggers, people are people and having an alternative view in a forum is what the forums all about, if people disagree in an abusive way that isn't the point, disagree yes but do it with humility and don't get personal. The Op seems a fairly well rounded guy and his enjoyment of this life is for all to see, I personally love that he enjoys it but you can't please all of the people all of the time. | |||
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I get that, but let's consider that swinging is not a subject you can bring up in polite society. We all know we'll get judged for it in the local pub and expect that. So forgive us for thinking that we could come on a website with the word "swingers" in the url and have a favourable crowd... It's only forumites here commenting, the been here done that crowd, many have been here many years and have something to say on every subject just because it says ' swinger'doesnt mean you are one it just means you are on the site, I'm not a fan of pegging in my case it doesn't mean I disagree with peggers, people are people and having an alternative view in a forum is what the forums all about, if people disagree in an abusive way that isn't the point, disagree yes but do it with humility and don't get personal. The Op seems a fairly well rounded guy and his enjoyment of this life is for all to see, I personally love that he enjoys it but you can't please all of the people all of the time. "Did you see the comments which brought this thread on ? Nothing about them were anything other than rude, disrespectful and uneducated . Especially when we are on a swinging site . I just didn’t want to lie down and take that without putting my side forward too . | |||
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You know the answer (as you said, I know you wouldn’t have asked it otherwise) and yes I wonder how many swingers, along the spectrum of what would be classified as kink, are swingers.
Small percentage I suspect, a large number of chancers, once again I suspect.
As a couple you have always had it together, (from my perspective), may I suggest stepping back and engage with the swingers not the chancers, leave the angst to them.
Good points , well made and probably very true . But where else other than here can we talk about our kinks and things we like to do ?
When it gets scorned like it was on the forum it’s a poor state of affairs in my opinion .
Of course I can ignore it , treat it with the contempt it deserves and carry on . But every now and again , something should be said , and I’ve never been backward in coming forward "Hoping to set up a kink forum, say hi. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... It was someone interestingly with a declared penchant for cuck play, so has a rather myopic and in some cases very mistaken albeit potentially in some cases correct (given that everyone plays these things differently) view of what *that* dynamic involves versus your preferred dynamic and the inability to see sharing a partner as anything other than their blinkered understanding. " I honestly think their understanding amounts to nothing . Of course I get that some cuck play involves humiliation of the male half , and that is the point for that dynamic . But I’ve never suggested that being our thing , and didn’t in that thread either . The comments I objected to had no relevance at all , even if they were directed toward a cuck humiliation couple , it was a simple case of saying that any man who allows his partner to fuck others isn’t able to satisfy her himself etc..... which is complete crap . | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... It was someone interestingly with a declared penchant for cuck play, so has a rather myopic and in some cases very mistaken albeit potentially in some cases correct (given that everyone plays these things differently) view of what *that* dynamic involves versus your preferred dynamic and the inability to see sharing a partner as anything other than their blinkered understanding. I honestly think their understanding amounts to nothing . Of course I get that some cuck play involves humiliation of the male half , and that is the point for that dynamic . But I’ve never suggested that being our thing , and didn’t in that thread either . The comments I objected to had no relevance at all , even if they were directed toward a cuck humiliation couple , it was a simple case of saying that any man who allows his partner to fuck others isn’t able to satisfy her himself etc..... which is complete crap ." I totally agree with you. It was rude and dismissive. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "No it dosn't make you any less of a man at all, sometimes your forum posts could but you do what you like to do swinging wise its your choice after all. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. Very true , but if it had been a pm I would have let it go . It’s the fact that the judgement is made publicly on a swinging forum that pisses me off most of all . " Why though? I think I know the comments you refer to- I found them extreme. The more extreme the comment the less it bothers me though. They don't know you or your relationship. Many people don't understand swinging. They never will. They won't know that fantastic feeling of watching or joining in or the reclaim sex. They just measure things by the state of their own lives- so they think couples swing because their relationship has issues. Their extreme comments are coming from inside them, not from inside you. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "If you and your wife is happy so enjoy it! It's no one else business in my opinion V. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. Very true , but if it had been a pm I would have let it go . It’s the fact that the judgement is made publicly on a swinging forum that pisses me off most of all . Why though? I think I know the comments you refer to- I found them extreme. The more extreme the comment the less it bothers me though. They don't know you or your relationship. Many people don't understand swinging. They never will. They won't know that fantastic feeling of watching or joining in or the reclaim sex. They just measure things by the state of their own lives- so they think couples swing because their relationship has issues. Their extreme comments are coming from inside them, not from inside you. " But the fact that the extreme comments are out there and on show on a public forum , on a swinging forum may I add , means that someone surely needs to take issue with them doesn’t it ? Or do we all just stick our heads in the sand and ignore them ? Let people who don’t understand the lifestyle ridicule us on a site that exists for us as a place to be ourselves . Nah .... I’ll say what I think because I’d rather defend our choices and kinks than sit here and say nothing . | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. Very true , but if it had been a pm I would have let it go . It’s the fact that the judgement is made publicly on a swinging forum that pisses me off most of all . Why though? I think I know the comments you refer to- I found them extreme. The more extreme the comment the less it bothers me though. They don't know you or your relationship. Many people don't understand swinging. They never will. They won't know that fantastic feeling of watching or joining in or the reclaim sex. They just measure things by the state of their own lives- so they think couples swing because their relationship has issues. Their extreme comments are coming from inside them, not from inside you. But the fact that the extreme comments are out there and on show on a public forum , on a swinging forum may I add , means that someone surely needs to take issue with them doesn’t it ? Or do we all just stick our heads in the sand and ignore them ? Let people who don’t understand the lifestyle ridicule us on a site that exists for us as a place to be ourselves . Nah .... I’ll say what I think because I’d rather defend our choices and kinks than sit here and say nothing ." It frustrates me when I *choose* to debate, discuss or disagree with or call out someone on a topic on here simply because I want to pose a different viewpoint rather than leave an opinion I feel strongly about unchallenged on t’internet or because they’ve replied to my opinion calling it out and I want to clarify my view or call out misunderstanding or as in your case Glos, refute the absolute fallacy of the reply or point made at you when people start saying you should have chosen not to respond or ignore it or that you’re taking too much offence or an offence at all. You’ve every right to state your view and respond to something when you want to do so. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. Very true , but if it had been a pm I would have let it go . It’s the fact that the judgement is made publicly on a swinging forum that pisses me off most of all . Why though? I think I know the comments you refer to- I found them extreme. The more extreme the comment the less it bothers me though. They don't know you or your relationship. Many people don't understand swinging. They never will. They won't know that fantastic feeling of watching or joining in or the reclaim sex. They just measure things by the state of their own lives- so they think couples swing because their relationship has issues. Their extreme comments are coming from inside them, not from inside you. But the fact that the extreme comments are out there and on show on a public forum , on a swinging forum may I add , means that someone surely needs to take issue with them doesn’t it ? Or do we all just stick our heads in the sand and ignore them ? Let people who don’t understand the lifestyle ridicule us on a site that exists for us as a place to be ourselves . Nah .... I’ll say what I think because I’d rather defend our choices and kinks than sit here and say nothing ." I wasn't inferring that you shouldn't say anything or correct them. 
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... It's a forum and as everything you read you don't agree with, others won't agree with everything as you see it, it's life and many here will judge you for your comments, if you cared what they said you wouldn't be here and commenting and does it really matter what people think of you if you don't know them?
I get that, but let's consider that swinging is not a subject you can bring up in polite society. We all know we'll get judged for it in the local pub and expect that. So forgive us for thinking that we could come on a website with the word "swingers" in the url and have a favourable crowd... It's only forumites here commenting, the been here done that crowd, many have been here many years and have something to say on every subject just because it says ' swinger'doesnt mean you are one it just means you are on the site, I'm not a fan of pegging in my case it doesn't mean I disagree with peggers, people are people and having an alternative view in a forum is what the forums all about, if people disagree in an abusive way that isn't the point, disagree yes but do it with humility and don't get personal. The Op seems a fairly well rounded guy and his enjoyment of this life is for all to see, I personally love that he enjoys it but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
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Nothing about them were anything other than rude, disrespectful and uneducated . Especially when we are on a swinging site . I just didn’t want to lie down and take that without putting my side forward too . "No I never saw previous thread | |||
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"I do not care for others opinions and I refuse to be influenced by them. Choose to play fab how you want to play it. The fact that fab allows non couples to join is completely against the idea that swinging is a couples sport, however we are where we are. Write your own rules, play your own game. No one is more or less valuable as individuals on here. However, balance of power between unicorns who everyone wants, couples who are the "genuine" swingers and single males who are nothing more than a commodity will always skew opinions." Never once have I suggested that we are the only true swingers . As a couple we’ve met and played with hundreds of singles guys , women , TVs , and couples . If it had been a single woman , a tv or a couple who made the same comments about guys who let their partners play with others I would have said the same thing . It’s not the demograph that pisses me off , it’s the condescending nature of the comments made . Single men are our favourite choice rather than a commodity , unless they are the type who think I can’t satisfy my wife . | |||
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"I do not care for others opinions and I refuse to be influenced by them. Choose to play fab how you want to play it. The fact that fab allows non couples to join is completely against the idea that swinging is a couples sport, however we are where we are. Write your own rules, play your own game. No one is more or less valuable as individuals on here. However, balance of power between unicorns who everyone wants, couples who are the "genuine" swingers and single males who are nothing more than a commodity will always skew opinions." I'm no cunts commodity. Fab allows non couples in. Well wupdewoo aren't I the lucky 1  | |||
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"I do not care for others opinions and I refuse to be influenced by them. Choose to play fab how you want to play it. The fact that fab allows non couples to join is completely against the idea that swinging is a couples sport, however we are where we are. Write your own rules, play your own game. No one is more or less valuable as individuals on here. However, balance of power between unicorns who everyone wants, couples who are the "genuine" swingers and single males who are nothing more than a commodity will always skew opinions. Never once have I suggested that we are the only true swingers . As a couple we’ve met and played with hundreds of singles guys , women , TVs , and couples . If it had been a single woman , a tv or a couple who made the same comments about guys who let their partners play with others I would have said the same thing . It’s not the demograph that pisses me off , it’s the condescending nature of the comments made . Single men are our favourite choice rather than a commodity , unless they are the type who think I can’t satisfy my wife ." And that provides the ideal filter. I have no beef with you. My point is the sheer volume of men on here who believe they are sought after and are making up a shortfall in the marital bed also skews the data. But some of these men are embittered by the attitude of some couples, who see men as a commodity. | |||
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"I do not care for others opinions and I refuse to be influenced by them. Choose to play fab how you want to play it. The fact that fab allows non couples to join is completely against the idea that swinging is a couples sport, however we are where we are. Write your own rules, play your own game. No one is more or less valuable as individuals on here. However, balance of power between unicorns who everyone wants, couples who are the "genuine" swingers and single males who are nothing more than a commodity will always skew opinions. Never once have I suggested that we are the only true swingers . As a couple we’ve met and played with hundreds of singles guys , women , TVs , and couples . If it had been a single woman , a tv or a couple who made the same comments about guys who let their partners play with others I would have said the same thing . It’s not the demograph that pisses me off , it’s the condescending nature of the comments made . Single men are our favourite choice rather than a commodity , unless they are the type who think I can’t satisfy my wife ." Some hubby play dynamic involve him not being able to satisfy the wife. This kind of play does exist in the cuckold scene to the point of feeling sorry for the hubby. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Interesting viewpoint, and one I share. Feel sorry for them rather than let it get to you, it's them that are losing out, mostly on any sex in general. | |||
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"It doesn't make you more of a man or less of a man. It makes you a man who gets pleasure from seeing his wife pleasured. That was my point , if you look at the comments made on the other thread you will see the post that got me riled up enough to create this one . I don’t claim to be more of a man , or less of a man . But I can’t see how someone on a swinging site can suggest that the fact that I like seeing my wife have fun with others means that I’m less of a man , inadequate , etc...... Yeah, I saw the other thread and would understand why it would piss you off. But people will always judge. I've been called a selfish bitch via pm because I wouldn't want Mr to fuck anyone else. Very true , but if it had been a pm I would have let it go . It’s the fact that the judgement is made publicly on a swinging forum that pisses me off most of all . Why though? I think I know the comments you refer to- I found them extreme. The more extreme the comment the less it bothers me though. They don't know you or your relationship. Many people don't understand swinging. They never will. They won't know that fantastic feeling of watching or joining in or the reclaim sex. They just measure things by the state of their own lives- so they think couples swing because their relationship has issues. Their extreme comments are coming from inside them, not from inside you. But the fact that the extreme comments are out there and on show on a public forum , on a swinging forum may I add , means that someone surely needs to take issue with them doesn’t it ? Or do we all just stick our heads in the sand and ignore them ? Let people who don’t understand the lifestyle ridicule us on a site that exists for us as a place to be ourselves . Nah .... I’ll say what I think because I’d rather defend our choices and kinks than sit here and say nothing . It frustrates me when I *choose* to debate, discuss or disagree with or call out someone on a topic on here simply because I want to pose a different viewpoint rather than leave an opinion I feel strongly about unchallenged on t’internet or because they’ve replied to my opinion calling it out and I want to clarify my view or call out misunderstanding or as in your case Glos, refute the absolute fallacy of the reply or point made at you when people start saying you should have chosen not to respond or ignore it or that you’re taking too much offence or an offence at all. You’ve every right to state your view and respond to something when you want to do so. " Could not agree more with this, unfortunately I genuinely believe thst unless you are in one of the more obvious cliques the most likely result of standing up for yourself is a ban, while the person(s) that started it as an accepted forumite carries on merrily insulting people doesn't mean ill give in of course. | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know." That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ....." We haven't experienced any remarks of the type you describe, we've been lucky I suppose. I was chatting to a guy a couple of weeks ago who told me he'd never swing while in a relationship and expected me to be impressed . He honestly didn't realise that he was insulting my relationship.
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ....." More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top" Yep , we are on that one too . What’s going on ? | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. " Thank you , I saw that and had a wry smile when you outed him . | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top Yep , we are on that one too . What’s going on ? " Just people who can't seem to get their head around the fact that being naturally predisposed towards multiple partners is a thing. How anyone can look at the world and believe monogamy is the natural inclination for most people leaves me flabbergasted. | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top Yep , we are on that one too . What’s going on ? Just people who can't seem to get their head around the fact that being naturally predisposed towards multiple partners is a thing. How anyone can look at the world and believe monogamy is the natural inclination for most people leaves me flabbergasted. " Especially when we are talking about it on a swinging site . Of all the places where you would think there would be a more supportive mentality ! Ah well , I’ve been really glad to see the majority of posters on this thread seem to get it . I’m not sure the same can be said on the other one | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top Yep , we are on that one too . What’s going on ? Just people who can't seem to get their head around the fact that being naturally predisposed towards multiple partners is a thing. How anyone can look at the world and believe monogamy is the natural inclination for most people leaves me flabbergasted. Especially when we are talking about it on a swinging site . Of all the places where you would think there would be a more supportive mentality ! Ah well , I’ve been really glad to see the majority of posters on this thread seem to get it . I’m not sure the same can be said on the other one "It’s a depressing case of attack and assume over there. | |||
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"Its a bit like preaching to the choir. The people who hold these opinions about husbands in couples will rarely change their opinion. The couples who understand how it works already know. That’s true , but as is apparent on this thread , there are still plenty who do get it . It’s got to be better for those who read the forums on the outside to see us all united than to see some of the condescending remarks made . What really gets me is this . We can go out on a Friday night to a busy pub , and my wife will pull . I’m about , and she makes it clear that we are always together so to speak . The guys are always perfectly happy with this , and in the main their first comment is “ Oh so you’re a swinger then “ . So in a normal pub there is a greater level of understanding than there is on here ! And it’s this fact that gets my goat ..... More astounding ignorance about swingers: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/812488#top Yep , we are on that one too . What’s going on ? Just people who can't seem to get their head around the fact that being naturally predisposed towards multiple partners is a thing. How anyone can look at the world and believe monogamy is the natural inclination for most people leaves me flabbergasted. Especially when we are talking about it on a swinging site . Of all the places where you would think there would be a more supportive mentality ! Ah well , I’ve been really glad to see the majority of posters on this thread seem to get it . I’m not sure the same can be said on the other one
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Ouch sorry you are getting that on here its pretty unplesent some peoples attitudes. I know its easy for me to say as not getting the grief but you do your thing and sod the intolerant fuckers it shows they lack the nous to understand how things can work with couples. | |||
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"I'd actually venture to suggest it makes you more of a man OP because it shows a level of security and comfort that it's something you can share with your wife, and you both get something from it. People will always express opinions on forums, sometimes they'll be based on personal preference, sometimes a lack of understanding, others through jealousy and yet more through sheer ignorance. Ultimately the only opinion that really counts when it comes to something like this is yours and your wife's - if you're both happy with it, who are others to tell you otherwise?! "I would agree with the above; I think it shows you are comfortable in your own skin as it were and you’re both in a marriage/relationship where you are both comfortable with it. Not many couples have that security bond between them. Everyone here seems to have developed a fab lifestyle to suit what works for them. Each to their own and enjoy! Definitely no lesser man... | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. " You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement? | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. " Like saying women over size 16 "don't take pride in their appearance"? " Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement? " | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement? "Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you? Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission. And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief! The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance. | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance. "Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse... As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation. There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them. Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button... | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance.
Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse...
As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation.
There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them.
Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button...
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance.
Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse...
As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation.
There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them.
Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button...
So since you’ve outed yourself as the cause of me starting this thread , how do you feel about the suggestions you made about men like myself that are happy to see their partner play with others ?
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"A lesser man would be jealous and insecure. You are happy to see your partner enjoying herself as a sexual being with others, and you must both be secure to witness this. Good for you. I don't agree. Jealousy served an evolutionary purpose and therefore many men have it today. A monogamous man isn't less of a man than a non-mongamous one for not wanting to share his wife. But he should hold himself to the same standards. It's the guys who want to cheat on their wife's but have them stay faithful that I think are lesser men. " Fully agree with your point. Don't do to others what you don't want done to yourself. Can't imagine a guy who would be comfortable sleeping with other women outside of his relationship (with or without permission) but at the same time expecting loyalty and monogamy from his partner in return. Says a lot about objectification and double standards on the part of the guy against women. As for jealousy, it does have its part in relationships. A relationship where even a small measure of jealously doesn't exist is one that I would think of as being extremely shallow. Jealousy in a relationship can signify an emotional investment into it being more than just a passing thing by either party. Although harnessed right, it can make the "reclamation sex" as described by one woman on here extremely empowering and erotic. | |||
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" Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse... As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation. There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them. Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button... "Keep digging yourself a hole on here. And frankly, you'll find that I'm exactly the same in real life as I am online. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. I don't have to act tough for anyone, I'm just calling out your BS on here and I'm clearly not the only one put off by you. You wanna report? Go ahead, make my day. As far as I can see here, you're the only one insinuating that you're a big and tough guy in reality and that I'm just mouthing off from the safety behind a screen. I've seen plenty of men with adolescent boy mentalities like you during my time in the army. I wonder how many block lists you've ended up on now? | |||
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"A lesser man would be jealous and insecure. You are happy to see your partner enjoying herself as a sexual being with others, and you must both be secure to witness this. Good for you. I don't agree. Jealousy served an evolutionary purpose and therefore many men have it today. A monogamous man isn't less of a man than a non-mongamous one for not wanting to share his wife. But he should hold himself to the same standards. It's the guys who want to cheat on their wife's but have them stay faithful that I think are lesser men. Fully agree with your point. Don't do to others what you don't want done to yourself. Can't imagine a guy who would be comfortable sleeping with other women outside of his relationship (with or without permission) but at the same time expecting loyalty and monogamy from his partner in return. Says a lot about objectification and double standards on the part of the guy against women. As for jealousy, it does have its part in relationships. A relationship where even a small measure of jealously doesn't exist is one that I would think of as being extremely shallow. Jealousy in a relationship can signify an emotional investment into it being more than just a passing thing by either party. Although harnessed right, it can make the "reclamation sex" as described by one woman on here extremely empowering and erotic. " Think you're projecting your own ideas onto all relationships to be honest. 68.1% of swingers say jealousy is "Not a problem at all" whilst 62.6% of swingers say it improved their marriage. So your shallow theory isn't well represented in the data. Try and imagine the level of survivorship bias in those stats, if swingers did have problems with jealousy then it would probably rip those marriages apart. | |||
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance.
Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse...
As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation.
There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them.
Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button...
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance.
Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse...
As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation.
There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them.
Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button...
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"OP, I feel your indignance. I was also participating in that thread. Take comfort in the fact that at the very end of it I basically hung that rude guy on his own rope by outing him as a cheater (he said he was on site strictly as a single, then cheekily implied "who said I was single?" in a follow-up comment, before finally trying to brush it all off by pleading d*unkenness from partying too much last night at 4am). If he thinks you're less of a man for enjoying seeing your wife fucking other men, then he's definitely EVEN LESS OF A MAN, hell, DECENT HUMAN BEING, for being a cheater single male swinger on this site giving us all single men a bad reputation with his astounding hypocrisy and Pharisee-level of judgement. You didn’t out me as anything and you know absolutely nothing about my situation. You shouldn’t make assumptions about people you speak to on the internet. Plenty of people on here aren’t single but aren’t necessarily cheating either. What was that about Pharisee-levels of judgement?
Ooh. Touchy. Getting defensive aren't you?
Tell you what, go and edit your profile to explicitly say that you're attached to someone but playing as a single, and then claim that she gave you permission.
And I hope to God she doesn't get wind of what you do on here and turn up at one of your meets' place to give the poor innocent woman or couple you're doing stuff with grief!
The fact that you've no idea how obnoxious or shady you look on here is breathtaking in terms of sheer ignorance.
Look, chap, it’s all very well being mr big bollocks on the internet, calling names and insulting people. I guarantee if you met me face to face you’d be as quiet as a mouse...
As I’ve said you know precisely nothing about my situation - I’m not cheating on any one - so stop judging/attacking me please. Not that I owe you any kind of explanation.
There are profiles on here which specifically state they are cheating. There’s a reason mine isn’t one of them.
Time to put a sock in it. Carry on and I’ll be reaching for the report button...
So since you’ve outed yourself as the cause of me starting this thread , how do you feel about the suggestions you made about men like myself that are happy to see their partner play with others ?
How do you justify the statements you made ?"If you read back to the previous thread, it was phrased as a question for discussion, in response to someone saying swinging represents a secure and stable relationship - I merely provided a different view for the purposes of discussion. If you’re happy with your own arrangements - you’ll get no judgement from me (and why should you care if I did judge you anyway?!) but it’s a discussion forum so you should expect that people will express different views and opinions on these matters. | |||
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"A lesser man would be jealous and insecure. You are happy to see your partner enjoying herself as a sexual being with others, and you must both be secure to witness this. Good for you. I don't agree. Jealousy served an evolutionary purpose and therefore many men have it today. A monogamous man isn't less of a man than a non-mongamous one for not wanting to share his wife. But he should hold himself to the same standards. It's the guys who want to cheat on their wife's but have them stay faithful that I think are lesser men. Fully agree with your point. Don't do to others what you don't want done to yourself. Can't imagine a guy who would be comfortable sleeping with other women outside of his relationship (with or without permission) but at the same time expecting loyalty and monogamy from his partner in return. Says a lot about objectification and double standards on the part of the guy against women. As for jealousy, it does have its part in relationships. A relationship where even a small measure of jealously doesn't exist is one that I would think of as being extremely shallow. Jealousy in a relationship can signify an emotional investment into it being more than just a passing thing by either party. Although harnessed right, it can make the "reclamation sex" as described by one woman on here extremely empowering and erotic. " I agree with this. | |||
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"So after a thread which filled up last night , I am asking a simple question . Does the fact that I love to see my wife having fun with other guys and women make me less of a man ? Am I inadequate and unable to satisfy her myself ? Do I objectify her because I get off seeing her with other people ? I know the answers to all of the questions , and it’s a resounding no , but according to some, I and every person who lets their partner enjoy fun with other people is all of the above and more ! This used to be a swinging site , but more and more it seems to be a place for arrogant non swingers to frequent and pour scorn on those who do swing . What a joke ..... "Probably more of a man putting her needs first... | |||
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Keep digging yourself a hole on here. And frankly, you'll find that I'm exactly the same in real life as I am online. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. I don't have to act tough for anyone, I'm just calling out your BS on here and I'm clearly not the only one put off by you.
You wanna report? Go ahead, make my day. As far as I can see here, you're the only one insinuating that you're a big and tough guy in reality and that I'm just mouthing off from the safety behind a screen. I've seen plenty of men with adolescent boy mentalities like you during my time in the army. I wonder how many block lists you've ended up on now? "I objected to you making insinuations about my personal situation (which you know nothing about). It’s not really cricket to come on here and call someone a disgusting human being etc. based on a few internet postings (water off a duck’s back, I’ve been called worse in my time). I actually agree with quite a few of your postings on here, for what it’s worth. Since you’ve said you’re ex army you’ve just gone up quite a few notches in my estimation and I’ll forgive the adolescent comment. Truce? | |||
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