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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. " I have no words | |||
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"I did have, recently separated. Our rules were, no mutual friends, protection to be worn, give notice for meets, be honest. All our other rules never really panned out x" pretty good arrangement. | |||
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"Hey! Just wondered if any of you reprobates have an open marriage where you both meet separately (not hot wife / husband scenario). If so, keen to hear the rules you have in place to avoid any issues. Xx" We have been open for 7 years | |||
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"I'll be interested in what comes from this thread. My gut instinct is that you either swing or you're poly" You say that as if there’s only one way to swing and only one way to do polyamory. There’s a myriad of ways to do both. And then there’s relationship anarchy too. | |||
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"I'll be interested in what comes from this thread. My gut instinct is that you either swing or you're poly You say that as if there’s only one way to swing and only one way to do polyamory. There’s a myriad of ways to do both. And then there’s relationship anarchy too. " Absolutely this. I’m poly and I swing solo and with partners. I don’t like the connotations of poly, so prefer to describe myself as ethically non monogamous. Whatever I call what I do, it can scare some people off or give the wrong impression. Any prospective play partners are made fully aware of my lifestyle before anything happens. Any partners I’m with are made aware of an impending meet, or as quickly afterwards as possible. One word: communication! | |||
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"that's a good idea Rebecca puts his mind at rest" puts me at ease. He is a martial arts instructor and quite imposing, Rebecca | |||
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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. " Made me giggle | |||
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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. I have no words " Dont say anything then | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster " Or simply make the point for an alternative view without accusing others of irresponsibility when they have provided their personal experiences not solely opinions (and even some on the thread showing it didn’t work out for them)... | |||
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"Thanks for your feedback. Sounds like it works well. I read an article on this the other day and there’s a good book that’s been recommended called the Ethical Slut - which deals with how to navigate any bumps in the road. Might be worth a read as we are heading this way. The only slight ‘issue’ is that we don’t get any sexual thrill from each other’s meets. I’m not sure if that’s going to cause problems or not." I'm in a long term open relationship and have had others before. My rules with my current partner are always practice safe sex, we always tell each other when we are meeting others and who we are meeting, we try to make sure we still have a decent amount of quality time together, total honesty with other a we are playing with (i.e. no pretending to be single or something), we mostly play outside our home but on the odd occasion one of us is away for the night we can have people over but change the sheets before and after (just manners that really!). I think that covers it. As for not getting a sexual thrill out of each other's meets I don't think that is an issue as long as you're both happy with what's going on. Personally I get off on watching my partners fuck other people if it's during group play but I don't really get excited when they go off to meet others without me. I just hope they have a good time. | |||
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"Thanks for your feedback. Sounds like it works well. I read an article on this the other day and there’s a good book that’s been recommended called the Ethical Slut - which deals with how to navigate any bumps in the road. Might be worth a read as we are heading this way. The only slight ‘issue’ is that we don’t get any sexual thrill from each other’s meets. I’m not sure if that’s going to cause problems or not." I bought a copy of Ethical Slut and gave up reading it. It’s certainly good for you if you’re looking at starting out. For absolutely no money, do a search for “more than two” They have a wealth of information from those who are in the lifestyle. There are tips, Q&As and blogs by those for whom things have gone well and also help to spot the signs if things are not going well and importantly how to avoid that. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster " 42% of marriages end in divorce. The vast majority would likely be closed marriages. How does monogamy rate on the “fucking disaster” scale? Often it’s lack of communication that makes them fail. Where open relationships work because there’s so much communication. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster " Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. " I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed " Poly is not limited to being only “when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together” - polygamy, polyamory, non-monogamy, relationship anarchy, open relationships and swinging have many more variants than that. That’s such a bizarrely limited viewpoint. | |||
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"I did have, recently separated. Our rules were, no mutual friends, protection to be worn, give notice for meets, be honest. All our other rules never really panned out x" This | |||
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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. " I like this post. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed " I'm quoting you | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Poly is not limited to being only “when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together” - polygamy, polyamory, non-monogamy, relationship anarchy, open relationships and swinging have many more variants than that. That’s such a bizarrely limited viewpoint. " But least because people define themselves with a label and you don’t really know what their dynamics are until the specifically tell you, it’s very personal and individual and the labels too can be interchangeable to different people. Hence why so many have varied views of what swinging is and what it isn’t and why there’s a plethora of threads debating it on here. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Poly is not limited to being only “when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together” - polygamy, polyamory, non-monogamy, relationship anarchy, open relationships and swinging have many more variants than that. That’s such a bizarrely limited viewpoint. But least because people define themselves with a label and you don’t really know what their dynamics are until the specifically tell you, it’s very personal and individual and the labels too can be interchangeable to different people. Hence why so many have varied views of what swinging is and what it isn’t and why there’s a plethora of threads debating it on here. " Not* least | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed " Hmmm let's see. Not quite sure you're definitions are accurate. But looking at the principle, I'd say that if a couple are going to meet others without discussing it or consenting to each instance (Which would be neither swinging nor polyamory), then yes that sounds like a car wreck relationship waiting to happen | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Hmmm let's see. Not quite sure you're definitions are accurate. But looking at the principle, I'd say that if a couple are going to meet others without discussing it or consenting to each instance (Which would be neither swinging nor polyamory), then yes that sounds like a car wreck relationship waiting to happen " Just googling I see that "open relationship" is now used as a umbrella term for all forms of poly and swinging. I certainly didn't mean to cast a shadow across either of those lifestyles. When I was swinging with my ex, and when I was dating, the term "open relationship" stood for a don't ask, don't tell kind of agreement that partners could meet and date/fuck whoever they wanted in private and without discussing it. That's what I think most vanilla people mean by the term. I apologise if that's not what the op meant by it. That helps explain why everyone was so cool about it. | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Hmmm let's see. Not quite sure you're definitions are accurate. But looking at the principle, I'd say that if a couple are going to meet others without discussing it or consenting to each instance (Which would be neither swinging nor polyamory), then yes that sounds like a car wreck relationship waiting to happen Just googling I see that "open relationship" is now used as a umbrella term for all forms of poly and swinging. I certainly didn't mean to cast a shadow across either of those lifestyles. When I was swinging with my ex, and when I was dating, the term "open relationship" stood for a don't ask, don't tell kind of agreement that partners could meet and date/fuck whoever they wanted in private and without discussing it. That's what I think most vanilla people mean by the term. I apologise if that's not what the op meant by it. That helps explain why everyone was so cool about it. " I have consulted with the swinging elders and on behalf of the community, we accept your apology | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Hmmm let's see. Not quite sure you're definitions are accurate. But looking at the principle, I'd say that if a couple are going to meet others without discussing it or consenting to each instance (Which would be neither swinging nor polyamory), then yes that sounds like a car wreck relationship waiting to happen Just googling I see that "open relationship" is now used as a umbrella term for all forms of poly and swinging. I certainly didn't mean to cast a shadow across either of those lifestyles. When I was swinging with my ex, and when I was dating, the term "open relationship" stood for a don't ask, don't tell kind of agreement that partners could meet and date/fuck whoever they wanted in private and without discussing it. That's what I think most vanilla people mean by the term. I apologise if that's not what the op meant by it. That helps explain why everyone was so cool about it. I have consulted with the swinging elders and on behalf of the community, we accept your apology " I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. " In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. " That's surely a typo Broken It's low agreeableness At least with me today it is | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. " How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me?" No, why would it be! It meant it literally. Think of it like when you recommend TV shows, it's a topic I think you'd enjoy reading about, assuming you havent already. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No, why would it be! It meant it literally. Think of it like when you recommend TV shows, it's a topic I think you'd enjoy reading about, assuming you havent already. " Fair enough. I wasn’t sure, so asked. I read it combined with Soulful’s comment who was digging. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me?" No offence taken Estella Just a bit battered and tired now. So I'm gonna chill and retreat into the shadows and lick my wounds | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No, why would it be! It meant it literally. Think of it like when you recommend TV shows, it's a topic I think you'd enjoy reading about, assuming you havent already. Fair enough. I wasn’t sure, so asked. I read it combined with Soulful’s comment who was digging. " Teasing rather than digging, re Soulful perhaps. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No, why would it be! It meant it literally. Think of it like when you recommend TV shows, it's a topic I think you'd enjoy reading about, assuming you havent already. Fair enough. I wasn’t sure, so asked. I read it combined with Soulful’s comment who was digging. " I wasn't digging. I was pulling your leg | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No, why would it be! It meant it literally. Think of it like when you recommend TV shows, it's a topic I think you'd enjoy reading about, assuming you havent already. Fair enough. I wasn’t sure, so asked. I read it combined with Soulful’s comment who was digging. Teasing rather than digging, re Soulful perhaps. " Better | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed " As a Poly person with Poly friends in various different relationship formats, that isn't the only way to do Poly. It is a tiny minority of Poly people who cohabitate in Poly groups. | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No offence taken Estella Just a bit battered and tired now. So I'm gonna chill and retreat into the shadows and lick my wounds " Good, I’m not attacking, I’m just trying to provide a different insight and explain when I disagree with what sometimes reads as an overly fixed position. Sorry that you feel wounded! | |||
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"I’d love some sources to read B.B. " "Personality in adulthood: a five factor theory perspective" by McCrae and Costa is really good starting point | |||
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"I’d love some sources to read B.B. "Personality in adulthood: a five factor theory perspective" by McCrae and Costa is really good starting point " Oh I know this!!! | |||
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" I consulted with the vanilla people who said stop speaking for other people by globalising your own viewpoint and understanding and telling them what they think. In my ever humble opinion, one very worthwhile use of your time would be to read about the pros and cons of people with personality traits of high agreeableness, high neuroticism and high openness to experience. How come? I’ve been discussing, and the above is a joke taken literally from Soulful’s direct wording where he globalised because he and I have been debating most of the day. It’s a joke. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you or him. Is the above a personal dig at me? No offence taken Estella Just a bit battered and tired now. So I'm gonna chill and retreat into the shadows and lick my wounds Good, I’m not attacking, I’m just trying to provide a different insight and explain when I disagree with what sometimes reads as an overly fixed position. Sorry that you feel wounded!" Oh you know me. I'm just a little fragile flower really | |||
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"Anyone have statistics on how many open relationships collapse into chaos? Where's Broken when we need him? Personally, I think it would be a bit irresponsible for people on the forum to have left you with the impression that what you're embarking on is a good idea. It could be a fucking disaster Not on poly relationships sorry, think what a minefield it would be to try and collect and standardise that data! I doubt they would look favourable. Swinging, on average, results in happier marriages and lower divorce rates. But poly relationships have an in-built limit because of time. There literally is a hard limit to how many people you can make time for. I'm not saying it doesn't work for the people who want it to, but i just don't think it can ever scale. Even polygamous societies see men taking less and less wives (by choice) as the country develops and pace of life picks up. I think we're talking about something else here. Swinging is when you consent to play with other people together and maybe, to some degree separately. Poly is when you all live together, do the dishes, share the shopping, and basically enjoy an extended family together. The op appears to be talking about the dreaded "open relationship" in which they each allow the other to meet others in private and maybe develop feelings for them. When I was dating earlier in the year I'd say about 1/3rd of the women I met were single because their partner had insisted on having an "open relationship" and basically just run off with some other woman. I'm talking about the stats on how many times such "open relationships" end in disaster. I have no doubt a select few, a slither thin minority, work. And I'm sure they'll be on here to tell the op that. But the dating apps are littered with the results of those that failed Hmmm let's see. Not quite sure you're definitions are accurate. But looking at the principle, I'd say that if a couple are going to meet others without discussing it or consenting to each instance (Which would be neither swinging nor polyamory), then yes that sounds like a car wreck relationship waiting to happen Just googling I see that "open relationship" is now used as a umbrella term for all forms of poly and swinging. I certainly didn't mean to cast a shadow across either of those lifestyles. When I was swinging with my ex, and when I was dating, the term "open relationship" stood for a don't ask, don't tell kind of agreement that partners could meet and date/fuck whoever they wanted in private and without discussing it. That's what I think most vanilla people mean by the term. I apologise if that's not what the op meant by it. That helps explain why everyone was so cool about it. " No it’s not done in secret. We both know who the other is meeting but the only difference is we don’t get any sexual thrill out of each other’s solo play. For that, we meet couples - together. We have always maintained an open and honest dialogue and have been together for more years than we haven’t. I was just keen to hear from others what rules they might have in place ... | |||
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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. " I'm in a dom/sub relationship with my two cats...if you have to ask which role I play, you don't know cats | |||
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"i have an open relationship with my cat. she goes out at night and returns in the morning. im happy with this arrangement apart from the dead mice and birds i get given weekly. I'm in a dom/sub relationship with my two cats...if you have to ask which role I play, you don't know cats " I have four dogs and one cat. The cat rules the bloody roost, me included | |||
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" As a Poly person with Poly friends in various different relationship formats, that isn't the only way to do Poly. It is a tiny minority of Poly people who cohabitate in Poly groups." Agreed. What I feel for my partner is much more than an addition to an open marriage. We don't have to cohabit to share lives. | |||
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"Hey! Just wondered if any of you reprobates have an open marriage where you both meet separately (not hot wife / husband scenario). If so, keen to hear the rules you have in place to avoid any issues. Xx" Yep we do No details Safe sex always no exception It never ever interferes with our family life They work for us xxx | |||
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"Thanks for sharing everyone. We’ve have started on this path and will see how we get on! I’m prepared for a few bumps in the road but otherwise quite excited." Our Male would be willing to be your first meet ?? | |||
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"Thanks for sharing everyone. We’ve have started on this path and will see how we get on! I’m prepared for a few bumps in the road but otherwise quite excited. Our Male would be willing to be your first meet ??" Thank you but I have guys I’m wanting to meet. This was more a post about those in a similar set up rather than a call out for willing men. Thank you tho x | |||
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"Safe sex only. Be safe and discrete. Ask beforehand if it’s ok to play with Mr X / Mrs Y (if we have chance). No lying." Sounds simple. | |||
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"Hi myself and wife are considering trying swinging/cuckolding but very nervous about how it might effect our relationship. Any views on how common it is for relationships to breakdown, looking for comment from experience couples rather than just looking on internet for advice, thanks Benj" Relationships break down whether you’re swinging or not. However if you’re in an open marriage and you’re playing by the rules you’ve set then it’s less likely to breakdown due to adultery. I think swinging couples have more fun and feel less trapped also. It’s understandable to be nervous but I would go for it. Life’s too short, take a chance. | |||
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