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"I didn't. I just put my head down and plough through all the jobs that went with it. Who knew there were so many. 18 months later I still haven't dealt with it. " hugs xxx | |||
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"I just get on with it. I'm a full time single Dad so don't have a chance to wallow." What about at night when you're in bed alone? | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" I didn't deal with it at all tbh. From 2006 to 2012 both my parents and both my grandparents died and I struggled. Time is the only healer as far as I was concerned | |||
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"I ride it out and try to not cry in public. People say talking about things helps you get over them, but talking about her, and writing about her even, makes me feel sad and I cry. It hurts less the further away it gets." Hugs My husband is a bit like you. Doesn’t talk about certain topics as that’s easier for him. Whereas I’m a big talker, I will obsess over things and I NEED to discuss them, in order to grieve | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief? I didn't deal with it at all tbh. From 2006 to 2012 both my parents and both my grandparents died and I struggled. Time is the only healer as far as I was concerned " Oh I’m sorry big hugs x I agree that time is a big healer | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief? I didn't deal with it at all tbh. From 2006 to 2012 both my parents and both my grandparents died and I struggled. Time is the only healer as far as I was concerned Oh I’m sorry big hugs x I agree that time is a big healer" Thanks Queenie. I did forget to add that my Prince has helped me more than I can say as well . He's my baby xx | |||
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"I just get on with it. I'm a full time single Dad so don't have a chance to wallow. What about at night when you're in bed alone?" I tend to only go to bed when I'm struggling to stay awake on the sofa as there is nothing worse than tossing and turning through worry. I don't always succeed though. I often get worries over 'the family' due to health. As if bad news is around the corner. I'm always right, I can never pin point who but within weeks a doctor does. You could just say that's just pessimistic and every family gets ill. | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief? I didn't deal with it at all tbh. From 2006 to 2012 both my parents and both my grandparents died and I struggled. Time is the only healer as far as I was concerned Oh I’m sorry big hugs x I agree that time is a big healer Thanks Queenie. I did forget to add that my Prince has helped me more than I can say as well . He's my baby xx" Oh I can relate there, I only had Benji and Draco at the time but they were amazing. Whenever I got upset Benji would bring me every single dog toy, and either just sit amongst the pile of toys wagging his tails, or jump up and lick my tears. It’s gotten to the point where if you say ‘where’s mummy’s cuddles?’ He runs to get his bear and jumps up at me xx | |||
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"Usually by bottling it up especially around other people and then having the occasional moments of raw misery whilst I’m on my own. I don’t wallow though I suck it up and plough on. I don’t like to bother anyone with my issues. " Big hugs xxx | |||
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"I cried a lot, I gathered my feelings up and compartmentalised them in a box in my brain, put a lid on it and left it to one side, I wouldn’t be able to function the way I was feeling at the time and it’s true what they say life does have to go on. Some days I miss him so much I lift the lid on he box and look at pics of us both together and just remember how good it was " Hugs I’m a bit like that too xxx | |||
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"Usually by bottling it up especially around other people and then having the occasional moments of raw misery whilst I’m on my own. I don’t wallow though I suck it up and plough on. I don’t like to bother anyone with my issues. " I so feel that | |||
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"I've been looking for the answer for over 16 years now. Forever missed and always on my mind. See you when I get there short arse xxx" | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" Get back to normality as quickly as possible x | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief? I didn't deal with it at all tbh. From 2006 to 2012 both my parents and both my grandparents died and I struggled. Time is the only healer as far as I was concerned Oh I’m sorry big hugs x I agree that time is a big healer Thanks Queenie. I did forget to add that my Prince has helped me more than I can say as well . He's my baby xx Oh I can relate there, I only had Benji and Draco at the time but they were amazing. Whenever I got upset Benji would bring me every single dog toy, and either just sit amongst the pile of toys wagging his tails, or jump up and lick my tears. It’s gotten to the point where if you say ‘where’s mummy’s cuddles?’ He runs to get his bear and jumps up at me xx" They know . He has honestly gave me a reason to get up in the mornings . Christmas is still shit though with no family around ( I do have my sister though ) x | |||
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"For example, when I had my first miscarriage on our wedding day my husband bottled up how he felt for over a year. He watched as I grieved and tried to come to terms with things, all while remaining numb. It took my younger sister bringing up a baby name that we were considering randomly during a car journey for it to hit my husband. He went to therapy to try and deal with it as he wasn’t sure how to. Whereas I am more upfront, I try my hardest to grieve straight away so I can try and move on as quickly as possible. It never works. " I'm so so sorry you had to go through that on your wedding day. I can completely understand why your husband wanted to tuck it away at such a special moment rather than let it out. The only way I know how to deal with grief is to give myself to it and let it deal with me. Eventually it blows through me and there's nothing left to blow anymore. Exhausted and empty, I let go. But that doesn't mean it's dealt with. It just means I can move on Big hearts to you both | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" I lost my brother to cancer 5 years ago on Xmas eve. I spend every year dreading Xmas as it's torture for my parents. And it all got me about a year after. I didn't cope well, my long term relationship broke down. So found myself single (which I maybe needed to be for a while) and I've struggled to get myself back since. I've tried counselling etc etc. It works for some, not all. But it does shape who you are. Me ...I just wanted to get some confidence back so thought if try things like this. Sadly you end up feeling worse as you realise it's just a popularity contest. And you end up feeling even more of a freak. Everyone is different, deal with the problem, surround yourself with good living people. And cherish your family. Only when you experience real horror do you appreciate how precious life is. And pray you don't end up alone. | |||
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"When my son died I had two little girls who needed me so I focused on them as my husband withdrew into a bottle. I held it together for as long as I could then left him. Still didn't grieve until all my girls married and left home. I was able to focus on me and truly grieve my son. The pain doesn't go away, you busy yourself to not focus on the pain. With hindsight I should have saught help and take time to grieve. Perhaps I wouldn't feel so sad and empty still, even with all the blessings that have come my way since...five grandsons and counting...Still doesn't negate my loss." If I lost 1 of my kids God I can't even think about that. Your a stronger person than I. X | |||
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"Therapy. That way you can give full reign to your feelings without feeling that you are over-burdening family and friends (although it is good to have their support too, of course) " I would never feel burdened by a family member or friend if they needed my support. | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" You don't deal with it, it's more of learning to cope with it and that takes a long time xx | |||
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"Some people think we should forget and move on, like there's something wrong with feeling sad and crying over someone you lost years ago. What's so wrong about crying and missing people you love, if it's not affecting your life. I lost my dad 21 years ago, my sister 16 years ago and I still cry occasionally for them. My mum dying recently brought back the grief I felt for them." My Mum died 13 years ago. I was lucky enough to be there. I describe it as I still have the scars but they are now wounds. Was the hardest funeral I went to but since then I have been to babies and children's funerals. I wouldn't be able or want to carry on in that situation. Selfish in regards to my sister's, Dad and friends but they would understand. | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief? You don't deal with it, it's more of learning to cope with it and that takes a long time xx" Agree totally | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick....." Or find a video of them and hear their voice on it. Or see something with their hand writing on. Obviously you don't get that from the pictures you have. | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick..... Or find a video of them and hear their voice on it. Or see something with their hand writing on. Obviously you don't get that from the pictures you have." Ive seen beautiful tattoos where it’s someones handwriting from a card, for example ‘love from granny xx’ | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick..... Or find a video of them and hear their voice on it. Or see something with their hand writing on. Obviously you don't get that from the pictures you have." Totally agree. It was my sister for me she was the closest I had to a real mum. I used to have a picture of her sat on my telly as a baby because my daughter was the double of her as a toddler. In the end I had to put it away I couldn't look at it anymore.... | |||
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"For example, when I had my first miscarriage on our wedding day my husband bottled up how he felt for over a year. He watched as I grieved and tried to come to terms with things, all while remaining numb. It took my younger sister bringing up a baby name that we were considering randomly during a car journey for it to hit my husband. He went to therapy to try and deal with it as he wasn’t sure how to. Whereas I am more upfront, I try my hardest to grieve straight away so I can try and move on as quickly as possible. It never works. " . I’ve suffered the loss through miscarriage a couple of times. The first time I was 22 and didn’t know how to deal with it. She was older and just buried it, her way of dealing. The last time a lot older and was able to process it better and talked and worked through it. Those losses were so much different to the loss of my father. And in a way harder as it was the potential life that was lost. Everyone deals with grief differently, what works for one may not work for another. That’s what makes it so hard to help | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick..... Or find a video of them and hear their voice on it. Or see something with their hand writing on. Obviously you don't get that from the pictures you have. Totally agree. It was my sister for me she was the closest I had to a real mum. I used to have a picture of her sat on my telly as a baby because my daughter was the double of her as a toddler. In the end I had to put it away I couldn't look at it anymore...." I see my big Sister 3 or 4 times a year. As soon as we open the door to each other I have to grab my breath. She looks, dresses, talks, personality and so on - just like my Mum. I'm grateful for that but can totally understand the reverse of that, similar to what you described. | |||
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"When my son died I had two little girls who needed me so I focused on them as my husband withdrew into a bottle. I held it together for as long as I could then left him. Still didn't grieve until all my girls married and left home. I was able to focus on me and truly grieve my son. The pain doesn't go away, you busy yourself to not focus on the pain. With hindsight I should have saught help and take time to grieve. Perhaps I wouldn't feel so sad and empty still, even with all the blessings that have come my way since...five grandsons and counting...Still doesn't negate my loss. If I lost 1 of my kids God I can't even think about that. Your a stronger person than I. X" Not at all my mate. I can't even look myself in the mirror anymore. I just found a way of pretending to everyone else I was ok. In reality I'm broken and just struggling to get me back. I don't think I ever will. | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick..... Or find a video of them and hear their voice on it. Or see something with their hand writing on. Obviously you don't get that from the pictures you have. Totally agree. It was my sister for me she was the closest I had to a real mum. I used to have a picture of her sat on my telly as a baby because my daughter was the double of her as a toddler. In the end I had to put it away I couldn't look at it anymore.... I see my big Sister 3 or 4 times a year. As soon as we open the door to each other I have to grab my breath. She looks, dresses, talks, personality and so on - just like my Mum. I'm grateful for that but can totally understand the reverse of that, similar to what you described." She was killed less than 2 week after my daughter was born. Totally by chance I was passing her house with my new pride and joy. Thank God I took the time to stop and show her off. That was the only time she held my baby. It took me a long time to explain why I cryed on every anaversery as soon as I seen my daughter. She's still the spit of her with the same mannerisms sence of humour and by fuck the same huge huge heart. She never ever knew her except for those few brief minutes as I passed. After all we had all the time in the world for the silly family stuff. Boy was that wrong.... | |||
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"I am the same with anything that upsets me generally..... Bottle it up and then lose it spectacularly and rant like a total loony, cry like crazy when alone and then slap a smile on and just be Hanky again in public. Is not right and it's not healthy, but I'm the one others often turn to so I can't show my weaknesses. When I do (and it has happened) it just freaks people out. I am better when others come to me with their stuff. Takes my mind off mine..... My wifey gets to see every shade of me, but she is often the only one. Love that woman Dread the day something happens to one of my immediate family - I will fall apart and I know it " I'll hold you up as you have me. Xx | |||
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"I write. Most things I get through or purge through writing. Whether it's loss, disappointment, or simple melancholia, expressing how I feel, even in the written word is cathartic for me. I write both poetry and prose. Some of it I share with people, some of it I keep to myself, but either way I feel a sense of calm and of being better able to wade through to the other side for having put how I feel into words. " I play my piano. It's seen me through the very best and worst of times. It's one of my dearest friends. That's also why most of my songs tend to be sad I convert my melancholy into adagios | |||
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"I was brought up in a home with a narcissistic mother and appearances were everything. Showing emotions that were perceived as negative was frowned upon as everything had to look absolutely perfect. The tiniest issue was met with rejection and emotional abuse. Because of this, I learned to bottle my emotions and feelings. It's an incredibly negative and unhealthy way to deal with things. I still tend to deal with grief, stress, anxiety, and anything negative by bottling it up to this day, but it is something that my therapist and Master are helping me to work through. ~ Kitten =^.^= " I can sort of sympathise there. My family are all incredibly stoic to the point that I think I'm considered the emotional one. But I too bottle it all up. One day I expect everything to come out in one gloriously embarrassing episode, but until then I'll just keep on burying lol. | |||
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"I lost my mum over 4 yrs ago and there isn't a day that goes by when i don't think about her in some way.. i miss her terribly as we were very close but all my memories are happy ones, even if it sometimes makes me sad " I lost my mum at around the same time. She was the heart of my family and its never been the same since. We were very close. I was with her when she passed away and helped carry her coffin with the help of the undertakers. I didn't know if I could do that but I'm glad I did. It felt like the most noble way to send her off | |||
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"I can sort of sympathise there. My family are all incredibly stoic to the point that I think I'm considered the emotional one. But I too bottle it all up. One day I expect everything to come out in one gloriously embarrassing episode, but until then I'll just keep on burying lol." Oh, I am very familiar with the explosion that happens after bottling a ton of small things up for months. It is indeed gloriously embarrassing and afterwards I am terrified that I have pushed everyone away. I'm lucky to have amazing friends and an amazing Master who stay by my side and are helping me to work through the issues. ~ Kitten =^.^= | |||
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"I can sort of sympathise there. My family are all incredibly stoic to the point that I think I'm considered the emotional one. But I too bottle it all up. One day I expect everything to come out in one gloriously embarrassing episode, but until then I'll just keep on burying lol. Oh, I am very familiar with the explosion that happens after bottling a ton of small things up for months. It is indeed gloriously embarrassing and afterwards I am terrified that I have pushed everyone away. I'm lucky to have amazing friends and an amazing Master who stay by my side and are helping me to work through the issues. ~ Kitten =^.^=" Good for you Kitten, at least you are getting the help you need. Unfortunately I only ever seem to get more shit for me to bury with no real friends and a partner that is too wrapped up in her own issues to take mine seriously. | |||
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"Good for you Kitten, at least you are getting the help you need. Unfortunately I only ever seem to get more shit for me to bury with no real friends and a partner that is too wrapped up in her own issues to take mine seriously." If you ever need to talk or bounce feelings off of someone, you're always welcome to message me as long as Master is alright with it! I know what it's like to feel alone with nobody to talk to and it's an awful feeling :/ ~ Kitten =^.^= | |||
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"Good for you Kitten, at least you are getting the help you need. Unfortunately I only ever seem to get more shit for me to bury with no real friends and a partner that is too wrapped up in her own issues to take mine seriously. If you ever need to talk or bounce feelings off of someone, you're always welcome to message me as long as Master is alright with it! I know what it's like to feel alone with nobody to talk to and it's an awful feeling :/ ~ Kitten =^.^=" Thanks Kitten. Mind if I add you as a friend? Otherwise I'll forget and never find you again. | |||
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"I am the same with anything that upsets me generally..... Bottle it up and then lose it spectacularly and rant like a total loony, cry like crazy when alone and then slap a smile on and just be Hanky again in public. Is not right and it's not healthy, but I'm the one others often turn to so I can't show my weaknesses. When I do (and it has happened) it just freaks people out. I am better when others come to me with their stuff. Takes my mind off mine..... My wifey gets to see every shade of me, but she is often the only one. Love that woman Dread the day something happens to one of my immediate family - I will fall apart and I know it I'll hold you up as you have me. Xx" Likewise buggerlugs xx | |||
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"I just get on with it. I'm a full time single Dad so don't have a chance to wallow." same here I just keep putting one foot in front of the other. Being a single parent is hard enough. | |||
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"Thanks Kitten. Mind if I add you as a friend? Otherwise I'll forget and never find you again." (Previous message deleted due to a typo and I am far too much of a perfectionist to let that go .) If you wouldn't mind too much, could you send a private message asking Master if it is alright first? I can't say yes as it isn't my place. ~ Kitten =^.^= | |||
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"I've been looking for the answer for over 16 years now. Forever missed and always on my mind. See you when I get there short arse xxx" | |||
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"Thanks Kitten. Mind if I add you as a friend? Otherwise I'll forget and never find you again. (Previous message deleted due to a typo and I am far too much of a perfectionist to let that go .) If you wouldn't mind too much, could you send a private message asking Master if it is alright first? I can't say yes as it isn't my place. ~ Kitten =^.^=" Will comply | |||
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"I was brought up in a home with a narcissistic mother and appearances were everything. Showing emotions that were perceived as negative was frowned upon as everything had to look absolutely perfect. The tiniest issue was met with rejection and emotional abuse. Because of this, I learned to bottle my emotions and feelings. It's an incredibly negative and unhealthy way to deal with things. " Yes, sometimes patterns can exist that you are not even aware of. Emotional suppression is so detrimental and I thank God that I am naturally someone who expresses everything they feel, so I try to express whatever is triggered at the time it is triggered, even if I have to withdraw to do that. Grief can suddenly hit you at any time, and hopefully when you are surrounded by people who will give you the freedom to express it. | |||
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"I lost my mum over 4 yrs ago and there isn't a day that goes by when i don't think about her in some way.. i miss her terribly as we were very close but all my memories are happy ones, even if it sometimes makes me sad " that's because your a loving caring person. Need more like you | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" My dad died 20 years ago never grieved, lost my brother February this year not really grieved Lost three close family members in six months this year It’s because I’m busy being strong for my mum It’s like I’ve got a little box in my brain where I seem to lock all my grieving emotions up and just get on with life and supporting loved ones But I know that the day I lose my mum that will be the day that box bursts open and a flood of grief for every loved one I have lost will flow | |||
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"Grief isn't about wallowing. It's about processing things in your head and trying to come to terms with it. I'm going through precisely that now, and what I'm learning is it isn't a linear journey, you don't start at point a and end up at point b. I can get blindsided by little unexpected things. I still forget that person isn't there any more and think oh I must tell her this, or ring her about that. Death also makes you think about your own mortality. When you've sat and watched someone die it makes you realise all of our days are numbered, and that is a sobering thought, and maybe an uncomfortable one when time feels like it's whizzing by. Different people deal with their grief in different ways. There's no right or wrong way, but I don't think bottling it up helps. The CRUSE website has some interesting information. Big hug of support to anyone going through the same x " This thread is so sad, with so many words of wisdom. I was particularly moved by what Minnie wrote (above). I lost someone very dear to me earlier in quite sudden and shocking circumstances this year and am still grieving. Due to my family dynamics this has stirred up a raft of fears and emotions beyond 'simply' missing them and to be honest I'm not sure I'm coping very well ... but you just have to kind of 'trudge' through each day because there's no other alternative. I'm very much in the disbelief stage which is awful because you have many moments where, for a second, you still think of that person as alive in the present only to get that gut wrenching reality check the very next moment. And anger at how unfair life is I'm sorry so many others are going through or have been through it too. I do think it can only be beneficial the more grief is confronted and spoken about though. It can feel incredibly lonely trying to make sense of it on your own. | |||
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"I lost my mum over 4 yrs ago and there isn't a day that goes by when i don't think about her in some way.. i miss her terribly as we were very close but all my memories are happy ones, even if it sometimes makes me sad " This for me too, although I’m going through a stage where I can’t think about the happy memories as it makes me cry, like now | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" One hour at a time, until you can manage one day at a time. | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice " I’m proud of you x | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice " That leaves you 2 options, talking which has to be done slowly because it hurts. And distraction, doesn't matter what but keep those dark thoughts at bay by not giving them space. Please do both, and see my previous post, 1 hour at a time then 1 day. 20 years on I am still fragile at times but now it's a few seconds every few weeks not a few weeks every few seconds. Be strong, talk at YOUR pace, and keep busy. | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice I’m proud of you x" Sorry 2 hear about what happend on your wedding day. Do we ever get over somthing like that . Me and my now ex that was all we ever wanted are on lil family the first lost broke me the 6th complety destroyed me and that was the last time I took drink and drugs . 2 years later and we still havnt talked about . X | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice That leaves you 2 options, talking which has to be done slowly because it hurts. And distraction, doesn't matter what but keep those dark thoughts at bay by not giving them space. Please do both, and see my previous post, 1 hour at a time then 1 day. 20 years on I am still fragile at times but now it's a few seconds every few weeks not a few weeks every few seconds. Be strong, talk at YOUR pace, and keep busy. " Thank you for your kind words x | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice I’m proud of you x Sorry 2 hear about what happend on your wedding day. Do we ever get over somthing like that . Me and my now ex that was all we ever wanted are on lil family the first lost broke me the 6th complety destroyed me and that was the last time I took drink and drugs . 2 years later and we still havnt talked about . X" Oh I’m sorry that’s truly awful. It’s something I talk about so often that I don’t get upset by it much anymore. I’m so open about everything that I can talk about it casually, and very rarely get upset. It still hurts, but the more I talk, the easier I find it xx | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" With guys, typically we distract ourselves, keep busy and stay focused Women tend to talk and share more I think both these practices combined are healthy. Worst thing to to is bottle it up, itll destroy you | |||
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"I lost my dad 2 months ago then my aunty. I'm destroyed and have no idea what 2 do. I would have normaly turned 2 drink or drugs in this situation but being 2 years drink and drug free this isn't a choice I’m proud of you x Sorry 2 hear about what happend on your wedding day. Do we ever get over somthing like that . Me and my now ex that was all we ever wanted are on lil family the first lost broke me the 6th complety destroyed me and that was the last time I took drink and drugs . 2 years later and we still havnt talked about . X Oh I’m sorry that’s truly awful. It’s something I talk about so often that I don’t get upset by it much anymore. I’m so open about everything that I can talk about it casually, and very rarely get upset. It still hurts, but the more I talk, the easier I find it xx" I can't talk about it or losing my dad . Now I have talked about it and written it down I feel heartbroken and sad . Cos it makes it more real if that makes sense x | |||
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"Usually by bottling it up especially around other people and then having the occasional moments of raw misery whilst I’m on my own. I don’t wallow though I suck it up and plough on. I don’t like to bother anyone with my issues. " | |||
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"The worse times are when you're sitting on a crowded bus and it hits you." I hate that. I’ll be on my way to work and a certain some will come on shuffle and it just hits you. Or I hear someone say the name of a loved one who’s passed. My father in law is a bus driver and sometimes just seeing him makes me cry. So I’ll be sat on the bus bubbling away, trying to keep it together | |||
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"The worse times are when you're sitting on a crowded bus and it hits you." Yep x | |||
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"You are not wrong Bladey, but I can't cry in front of the kids cos they don't need to support me, and I can't cry in public cos that would be weird. So I need that strong box to keep that facade in place until I am alone. You are also right about needing to open up, but I have found I need a control valve to let the pressure out slow and controlled, if I open the lid too quick it breaks me." Good God I'm so so with ya. Hence the support it what ever form you feels right. As for your kids obviously depends on age but they are tougher and wiser than we think. Mine give me my strength. I don't mean I spout details to them I mean if I've had a bad day I walk in see my daughter and probably say oi mush giz a hug kid I've had a shitter of a day and she will and she does the same to me when she has. No details needed unless we choose. Remember they are mini you | |||
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"You are not wrong Bladey, but I can't cry in front of the kids cos they don't need to support me, and I can't cry in public cos that would be weird. So I need that strong box to keep that facade in place until I am alone. You are also right about needing to open up, but I have found I need a control valve to let the pressure out slow and controlled, if I open the lid too quick it breaks me." Similar. Cos I'm the crutch for everyone around me the last thing I want is for my kids to see anything, then go tell their mum and my mum. Mostly cos I.cant be arsed with the lengthy phone calls asking if I'm ok etc. And I certainly don't let my 15yo see cos he would just worry. | |||
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"I really do hope that nobody takes this wrong as nobody really can tell you what's right or wrong in this but what really screams out to me on this thread is the amount of blokes who believe it's the right thing to do to hammer your feeling deep deep down and don't ever let them out. From personal experience I can tell you 1 way or another at some point in your life that box you think you've got everything bad locked up in nice and tight is going to open and probably at the worst possible time. In my view and again from experience you have 2 choices. 1 you bring it in a controlled way and hopefully with every type of support possible because you'll fucking need it or 2. You keep going as you are and that box explode because it can fit no more sadly that's probably the road you your strolling down right now and at the end of that road is a padded cell and a straight jacket. Those are the choices lads make your choice well your life could well depends on it.... To add another point we are all big hard fifty toughdy blokes so why are we all so scared of our feeling. I mean come on we can all jump up and kick the shit out of each other so why not face a few real demands the real big boys the 1s within and maybe shed a tear or 2 just like I have today posting on this and reading others story's. Look me in the eye boys so to speak and tell me I'm the only 1 that soft. I'm proud I've cryed and I've cryed because I'm human are you ???" I agree. There is such a stigma around men’s mental health and less and less men are happy to open up. As I said earlier, whenever I had a miscarriage my husband bottled it up. Part of this was because he didn’t know how to cope, but the most part was because I was grieving so much he was being there for me, and not taking time for himself. I was pretty selfish. He’s been to therapy (I’ve been in therapy for years) and he now discusses his feelings openly. He also grew up with an extremely emotionless father, and it has certainly taken its tole. It has taken years for him to open up about things. Even little things that may be annoying him, he just never showed emotion. But he’s getting better. | |||
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"Sorry 2 here about everyone's losing . Sending u all massive jugs " I've got massive jugs lol. X | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" Fuck knows. I claw my way thru as best I can and if that doesn't work well I dunno... | |||
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"You are not wrong Bladey, but I can't cry in front of the kids cos they don't need to support me, and I can't cry in public cos that would be weird. So I need that strong box to keep that facade in place until I am alone. You are also right about needing to open up, but I have found I need a control valve to let the pressure out slow and controlled, if I open the lid too quick it breaks me. Good God I'm so so with ya. Hence the support it what ever form you feels right. As for your kids obviously depends on age but they are tougher and wiser than we think. Mine give me my strength. I don't mean I spout details to them I mean if I've had a bad day I walk in see my daughter and probably say oi mush giz a hug kid I've had a shitter of a day and she will and she does the same to me when she has. No details needed unless we choose. Remember they are mini you " And you should always remember how blessed you are to have mini yous to help you through your shit however big or small (which I know YOU do Fireblade, but not everyone does) | |||
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"I know everyone is different and there are many different ways we would cope with grief. But how do you deal with grief?" I usually man the fuck up in public and then get alcoholicly comatosed in private. | |||
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"When my son died I had two little girls who needed me so I focused on them as my husband withdrew into a bottle. I held it together for as long as I could then left him. Still didn't grieve until all my girls married and left home. I was able to focus on me and truly grieve my son. The pain doesn't go away, you busy yourself to not focus on the pain. With hindsight I should have saught help and take time to grieve. Perhaps I wouldn't feel so sad and empty still, even with all the blessings that have come my way since...five grandsons and counting...Still doesn't negate my loss. If I lost 1 of my kids God I can't even think about that. Your a stronger person than I. X" I had to survive for my other two children and stepsons as my husband totally withdrew from us. | |||
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"Some people think we should forget and move on, like there's something wrong with feeling sad and crying over someone you lost years ago. What's so wrong about crying and missing people you love, if it's not affecting your life. I lost my dad 21 years ago, my sister 16 years ago and I still cry occasionally for them. My mum dying recently brought back the grief I felt for them." My son would have been 28. The daughter I had after him was 27 yesterday. After phoning her and wishing her a happy birthday I felt so empty it took me by surprise. You don't get over it. | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick....." My brother-in-law had a son a year later, the spitting image of my son. I last saw him a few years back at my ex mother-in-law's 85th birthday party. 6ft 3, strapping, looking exactly how I pictured my son to look. It was a surreal experience. | |||
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"Mind you when my dad finally has the decency to stop breathing, I for one won’t be grieving. So I’m good for that one. " Reading between the lines, I *think* I might have some idea where you're coming from. The trouble is, if you have a parent (or parents) who haven't parented in the way you think they should have done, you are still probably going to have a strong emotional reaction to their death, even if not grief in the 'traditional' sense. I am *dreading* the death of one of my parents because I'm terrified it will be harder to grieve for the 'parent I never really had' than for one I was close to, and had fond memories of. While they're still alive, though very unlikely, there's still a tiny hope of answers and explanations, maybe amends of some sort, but when they die that's it, I will never know. | |||
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"When my son died I had two little girls who needed me so I focused on them as my husband withdrew into a bottle. I held it together for as long as I could then left him. Still didn't grieve until all my girls married and left home. I was able to focus on me and truly grieve my son. The pain doesn't go away, you busy yourself to not focus on the pain. With hindsight I should have saught help and take time to grieve. Perhaps I wouldn't feel so sad and empty still, even with all the blessings that have come my way since...five grandsons and counting...Still doesn't negate my loss. If I lost 1 of my kids God I can't even think about that. Your a stronger person than I. X Not at all my mate. I can't even look myself in the mirror anymore. I just found a way of pretending to everyone else I was ok. In reality I'm broken and just struggling to get me back. I don't think I ever will. " You've summed it up eloquently: exactly how it is for me too. | |||
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"The worse times are when you're sitting on a crowded bus and it hits you. I hate that. I’ll be on my way to work and a certain some will come on shuffle and it just hits you. Or I hear someone say the name of a loved one who’s passed. My father in law is a bus driver and sometimes just seeing him makes me cry. So I’ll be sat on the bus bubbling away, trying to keep it together " I can relate to this. My parents died years ago. They moved out of London to Preston in 1988. I remember heading home on the bus and seeing my parents walking hand in hand having just left the Tescos. Couple of years ago I was heading back to work and the bus took me past the Tescos just as Dance with my father by Luther Vandross came on my ipod. I'm not a cry baby, but I was blinded by tears and almost physical pain. I've driven past that spot since and felt sad but nothing like the first time. | |||
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"Mind you when my dad finally has the decency to stop breathing, I for one won’t be grieving. So I’m good for that one. Reading between the lines, I *think* I might have some idea where you're coming from. The trouble is, if you have a parent (or parents) who haven't parented in the way you think they should have done, you are still probably going to have a strong emotional reaction to their death, even if not grief in the 'traditional' sense. I am *dreading* the death of one of my parents because I'm terrified it will be harder to grieve for the 'parent I never really had' than for one I was close to, and had fond memories of. While they're still alive, though very unlikely, there's still a tiny hope of answers and explanations, maybe amends of some sort, but when they die that's it, I will never know. " Trust me, you are better off never knowing, than knowing a father figure I had. The last time I saw him or my mother was when mom signed my enlistment papers a 16. Dads parting shot was he hoped the IRA get me, and that’s probably the nicest thing he’d said to me in ten years. I changed my name at 18. I’ve visited my moms grave, just to see. The only thing I felt was, I should probably be feeling bad about this. | |||
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"Mind you when my dad finally has the decency to stop breathing, I for one won’t be grieving. So I’m good for that one. Reading between the lines, I *think* I might have some idea where you're coming from. The trouble is, if you have a parent (or parents) who haven't parented in the way you think they should have done, you are still probably going to have a strong emotional reaction to their death, even if not grief in the 'traditional' sense. I am *dreading* the death of one of my parents because I'm terrified it will be harder to grieve for the 'parent I never really had' than for one I was close to, and had fond memories of. While they're still alive, though very unlikely, there's still a tiny hope of answers and explanations, maybe amends of some sort, but when they die that's it, I will never know. Trust me, you are better off never knowing, than knowing a father figure I had. The last time I saw him or my mother was when mom signed my enlistment papers a 16. Dads parting shot was he hoped the IRA get me, and that’s probably the nicest thing he’d said to me in ten years. I changed my name at 18. I’ve visited my moms grave, just to see. The only thing I felt was, I should probably be feeling bad about this. " I'm sorry - I didn't mean to say anything upsetting. I might have been a bit clumsy with my wording. Every child deserves to be parented properly - unfortunately many aren't. | |||
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"Mind you when my dad finally has the decency to stop breathing, I for one won’t be grieving. So I’m good for that one. Reading between the lines, I *think* I might have some idea where you're coming from. The trouble is, if you have a parent (or parents) who haven't parented in the way you think they should have done, you are still probably going to have a strong emotional reaction to their death, even if not grief in the 'traditional' sense. I am *dreading* the death of one of my parents because I'm terrified it will be harder to grieve for the 'parent I never really had' than for one I was close to, and had fond memories of. While they're still alive, though very unlikely, there's still a tiny hope of answers and explanations, maybe amends of some sort, but when they die that's it, I will never know. Trust me, you are better off never knowing, than knowing a father figure I had. The last time I saw him or my mother was when mom signed my enlistment papers a 16. Dads parting shot was he hoped the IRA get me, and that’s probably the nicest thing he’d said to me in ten years. I changed my name at 18. I’ve visited my moms grave, just to see. The only thing I felt was, I should probably be feeling bad about this. I'm sorry - I didn't mean to say anything upsetting. I might have been a bit clumsy with my wording. Every child deserves to be parented properly - unfortunately many aren't." It’s ok. I’m not upset about anything to do with them anymore. If I hadn’t had the things that happened to me happen, then I wouldn’t be the person I am now. And I quite like the person I am now | |||
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"The worst thing for me is when totally out the blue and you spot somebody with the same look about them say from behind. You spot them and suddenly think for just a split second is that our bla bla over there then it hits you no of course it's not you fucking dick..... My brother-in-law had a son a year later, the spitting image of my son. I last saw him a few years back at my ex mother-in-law's 85th birthday party. 6ft 3, strapping, looking exactly how I pictured my son to look. It was a surreal experience. " Think I mentioned further up my daughter was the double of my sister when they was both toddlers and I had a pic of them both at the same age. The 1 of my sis had to go I couldn't look at it no more. As mine has grown it's not really changed she still looks like her only a lot taller. My sister was maybe 4ft and a dimp tops. I'm just hoping she doesn't develop the same love of micro skirts and bleached blond hair. We used to call her Barbie short stacked bleached hair with a heart of gold and a punch of steel if you was brave enough to mess with her. Haha happy memories | |||
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"Grief is weird, it's totally individual and totally personal. Sometimes you don't even know you are suffering it and a trivial later matter causes a disproportionate feeling of grief, it's possibly the repressed grief found a crack and it all comes out together. When my mother died, I was happy, she was descending into the darkness of dementia. And it was a blessing that she died when she did, over a year later I broke down over a friends dog dying. When my wife died, she blessed me with 2 young children, and wonderful in-laws who took the children for enough weekends to allow me to break down out of their line of sight. No it wasn't perfect, it never is. But the kids grew up reasonably normal, and I get mother's day as well as father's day cards from them both still. I did some shameful things, I suffered the edge of insanity, but only Friday to Sunday, Sunday night I got clean and sober, picked the kids up, and coped for the week or two until the next time. Most men are different to most women, we are not good at handling emotion, or being vulnerable. But it has to be dealt with eventually, or it becomes rage. Lots of pain in this thread, my heart goes out to you all. I hope you find your way of resolving it. Me, I can stop tears with a cough, I have learned that time is the key there are still moments now that can break me, and if I am in the right safe place I let the tears flow, but time has allowed me to now only feel devistated for a few minutes before I am able to put the smile back on and face life again. Big hugs to those who need them. " And right back to you sir | |||
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"I've lost a few close friends and family in my 56 years and generally get my head down and work through it, however on the 25th May last year I lost 2 good friends in a light aircraft accident, it still plays on my mind and I'm not moving on and I don't understand why " I lost 2 of my best friends in the Shoreham Airshow crash. They were only there, at that exact time as waiting for me. I still havn't got over thst, blame myself, they'd have taken another route if I'd let them know sooner I couldn't make it. I couldn't drive past the site for over a year, added 15miles to my daily drive to avoid it. 3yrs on & I csn pass it now, but every hair on my body stands on end when I do. My kids know to be silent if we have to stop at the lights. Grief & guilt are a terrible combination | |||
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"5 years and 5 days ago today I very nearly lost my life to my own doing, feeling like life couldn't get any worse and wanting finished with it all I jumped Infront of a ford transit van, and very nearly lost my life. fractured skull, ruptured ear drum, broken cheek bone, and bleeding on the brain. I was hospitalised for weeks, one year later I was living in my own place on my own and have always had a stable job That set's me up for life. It just goes to show when you think things can't get any worse And the days will never better them selves, things will ALWAYS! Move on and steady them it's self out. If any one out there is feeling down or shitty rember there's always a better future ahead of the day you can't seem to see past hold it down and keep your chin up! One love! Peace of the mind love of others around you and prosperity of your self! I use this moment to Handle my greif even more so now then ever!" You keep on surprising me you. That the 2nd post I've seen you do that couldn't be more right. | |||
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"This is maybe going to seem shallow or perhaps misplaced grief... I lost my parents separately a number of years ago and I don't think I outwardly or inwardly grieved as much as I could or should have.. don't get me wrong I miss them every day. Move on 10 years and I separated from a lady I still consider my soul mate as the relationship was extramarital and unfair on a lot of people close to us... And for her or our relationship has left me in despair with grief and I feel.so bad I grave for her and our relationship more than the loss of my parents... I'm following this thread for help and your possible resolutions. X" Hi there, I'm going through the same myself so I know how you're feeling. My dad died in 2005 and it hit us all hard, 13 years later and he's missed and spoken about every day. I can identify with your feelings of guilt over grieving more for your lady than for the loss of your parents - I'm exactly the same and nearly two years since breaking up, I'm no further on....she told me I'd been the love of her life and for sure she's the love of my life, but we just couldn't make it, as lovers or friends in the end as I found it too hard (she moved on and is in another relationship now). We haven't spoken since July - it's hard but most likely for the best. It feels like a bereavement and in a way it is - nobody died but the relationship and friendship did. It's changed me for the worst - I feel like a fool (I should have behaved better in the relationship), also feelings of bitterness and jealousy consume me at times, sometimes I wish I'd never met her to feel how I feel now....but then I think of the happiness we shared in the good times, happiness I'd never known before and then I know it was all worth it. I don't know about help or resolutions but I know what you're going through, all the best. | |||
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