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" But one final thought for you ladies. When you delete a ‘hand crafted’ message after you read it with no reply, what you’ve done is demoted that person and thrown him into that same filthy waste bin filled with those very people that you were expecting the sender to stay far away from: those Johnny Cum Lately’s (sic) who wish to finger and fuck their way with dirty one-liners and pictures of their vulgar cocks shots reminiscent of yesterday’s roadkill. ° " Or maybe it is your perception that is skewed? | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " This... | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " Wise words every man should live by ..on fab anyway | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " Absolutely agreed. No need for anything else to be said! If she’s not interested she’s not interested, doesn’t matter what “pile” she has put you in by deleting your message with no reply, why would she care? She’s not interested. | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This..." Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. | |||
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"I’m usually a ‘lurker’ amongst the Forums and probably cautious when dipping into some of the discussions. But a recent post on here titled “The power and consequence of rejection” made me think of the idiosyncrasies of the wonderful world of Fab… ° There are still those amongst us, in masses, who endeavour to do the ‘right thing’: carefully read a profile and send a hand-crafted message which is unique, polite, articulate and well-mannered, devoid of any text speak/slang/abbreviations, tailored to the sender’s profile, good-natured but still normal and natural with a clear unadulterated facial photograph attached. The intention being to introduce oneself and start the gentle journey of meeting people and not just expecting a jack-in-the-box instant shag. ° What happens next is the message will remain unread for a long time - which is absolutely fine because we all have a life outside of Fab’ – and then get deleted in some cavalier fashion without being read. Such is life, it happens. I’ve learnt to accept it. I entered Fab’ with my eyes wide open and with a strong constitution to accept the rejection. No one owes me anything. It does however leave a feeling of bewilderment when that unread message is discarded and because I’m unable to work out where I went wrong and how I can adapt and improve. If at all. Sapiosexuality is one thing but sex appeal is another thing altogether: quite possibly the sender is ‘not-so-good-looking’ or doesn’t tick the correct ‘ethnic background’ box. Who knows. I know one thing: like most, my profile is far from perfect. ° Alternatively the message is opened which leads to a reply of regret. Again that’s fine with me. Somebody took the time to reply. I’m humbled and grateful. Job done. Move on. Post-mortem not required. ° The last situation is when the message is opened (presumed read) and deleted altogether with no reply. Once again, one becomes thick-skinned and accepts that. But it’s hard to accept the lack of civility. Especially when that message took quite some time to write because the sender had the good sense to stay away from the hackneyed cut-and-paste-template AND the recipient clearly stated that she is not interested in blag one-liners or “fancy a quick one” type of rhetoric. ° Ladies, I really, wholeheartedly, completely understand the amount of vacuous crap and crass you all get sent and which floods your InBox. The 100’s of messages, the 1,000’s of unsolicited friend invites, the 10,000’s of pointless winks. You have every reason to be fucked off without compunction. There is no solution to this. I don’t pretend to have one. ° It’s hard work trying to boil the ocean when all I want is a drop of the good stuff. I will continue to conform to the ways of Fab and accept the rejection. It’s all part of the game. ° But one final thought for you ladies. When you delete a ‘hand crafted’ message after you read it with no reply, what you’ve done is demoted that person and thrown him into that same filthy waste bin filled with those very people that you were expecting the sender to stay far away from: those Johnny Cum Lately’s (sic) who wish to finger and fuck their way with dirty one-liners and pictures of their vulgar cocks shots reminiscent of yesterday’s roadkill. ° The rejection is fine. The aftertaste of that *demotion* is sometimes unpalatable. And now a smiley face just for the heck of it " OP you seem a very sensitive type of person, is this really the site for you if you get upset over an unread deleted or a read then deleted message? For anyone (including femmes) choosing to find the right playmate Fab is a challenge. Chin up OP | |||
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"... Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " This everyone reads/fields/deletes messages differently, don’t take it to heart or personally, the right ones will read and respond eventually. As an aside, I had to google what sapiosexuality was, think that discounts be from ever being sapiosexy | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " To be fair I don’t think it’s quite the same as something like unsolicited mail from Dominos. Woman have signed up to Fab, posted some details about themselves, stated their preferences in their profile.... so I would say that was definitely an invitation to be approached by way of a message. If no-one message me anyone because doing so was deemed to be unsolicited, then it would kinds defeat the purpose of the site. Having said that, and to be fair, it is also true that women are under no obligation to reply. The fact probably is simply that even the best handcrafted, original and relevant message still needs to stand out from all the other decent, handcrafted, original and relevant messages. And maybe have a photo that catches someone’s eye. Or just have a certain turn of phrase that raises a smile, or whatever. At the end of the day, when messaging someone who doesn’t know you from Adam, then in all probability the chance’s are they’re not going to be interested. Women have the advantage of being able to be as picky as they like (well, not necessarily picky, just have the preferences they do), and so have every right to reply when and to whom they please. | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... To be fair I don’t think it’s quite the same as something like unsolicited mail from Dominos. Woman have signed up to Fab, posted some details about themselves, stated their preferences in their profile.... so I would say that was definitely an invitation to be approached by way of a message. If no-one message me anyone because doing so was deemed to be unsolicited, then it would kinds defeat the purpose of the site. Having said that, and to be fair, it is also true that women are under no obligation to reply. The fact probably is simply that even the best handcrafted, original and relevant message still needs to stand out from all the other decent, handcrafted, original and relevant messages. And maybe have a photo that catches someone’s eye. Or just have a certain turn of phrase that raises a smile, or whatever. At the end of the day, when messaging someone who doesn’t know you from Adam, then in all probability the chance’s are they’re not going to be interested. Women have the advantage of being able to be as picky as they like (well, not necessarily picky, just have the preferences they do), and so have every right to reply when and to whom they please." Well said! | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This... Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. " | |||
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"The only one that mildly bothers me is the one that gets left unread and undeleted...because you're not sure if they simply never got round to reading it (and therefore should you potentially risk sending another one) or did they read it, checked you out, didn't like what they saw, but don't want to invite abuse or any other shit by deleting, so they mark it unread... I assume the latter and leave 'em alone. I'd rather potentially miss out than potentially be a creep" I’m guilty as charged of that will start deleting from now on, although in my defence I hadn’t quite thought that something may be read into it not being deleted | |||
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"If I perceive the message to be genuinely thought out and well written, I will always respond. " Yes this | |||
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"If I perceive the message to be genuinely thought out and well written, I will always respond. Yes this " If I promise to write more than 2 lines, throwing the odd impressive word, will you guarantee to shag me? | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This... Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. " I’d be a bit concerned if Dominoes were looking at everyone’s profile to see if people want a take-away. I won’t instantly delete the ‘do you want a 12” thick and crispy with extra cheese’ messages now... | |||
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"If I perceive the message to be genuinely thought out and well written, I will always respond. Yes this If I promise to write more than 2 lines, throwing the odd impressive word, will you guarantee to shag me? " Only if you bend over prettily enough. | |||
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"The only one that mildly bothers me is the one that gets left unread and undeleted...because you're not sure if they simply never got round to reading it (and therefore should you potentially risk sending another one) or did they read it, checked you out, didn't like what they saw, but don't want to invite abuse or any other shit by deleting, so they mark it unread... I assume the latter and leave 'em alone. I'd rather potentially miss out than potentially be a creep I’m guilty as charged of that will start deleting from now on, although in my defence I hadn’t quite thought that something may be read into it not being deleted " I totally get why women would do that - it seems even deleting a message seems to act as an invitation to bombard them with messages for some guys, so I understand the rationale...just from a purely selfish perspective it means as a chap you're in limbo - are you just at the bottom of a very big pile, or are you rejected and you don't even know it? | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This... Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. I’d be a bit concerned if Dominoes were looking at everyone’s profile to see if people want a take-away. I won’t instantly delete the ‘do you want a 12” thick and crispy with extra cheese’ messages now... " Hate to break it to you but most of our Internet history is probably used and sold on to third parties. | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This... Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. I’d be a bit concerned if Dominoes were looking at everyone’s profile to see if people want a take-away. I won’t instantly delete the ‘do you want a 12” thick and crispy with extra cheese’ messages now... Hate to break it to you but most of our Internet history is probably used and sold on to third parties. " So we should be putting disclaimers on for other organisations instead of just Sydney University | |||
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"If I perceive the message to be genuinely thought out and well written, I will always respond. " | |||
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"The only one that mildly bothers me is the one that gets left unread and undeleted...because you're not sure if they simply never got round to reading it (and therefore should you potentially risk sending another one) or did they read it, checked you out, didn't like what they saw, but don't want to invite abuse or any other shit by deleting, so they mark it unread... I assume the latter and leave 'em alone. I'd rather potentially miss out than potentially be a creep" I have to admit to the going back and marking as unread. Normally it's from a couple and I don't look regularly at couples profiles. Personally, I'd say don't message again. They'll contact you when they're ready (or bulk delete). | |||
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"Do you reply to Dominoes to say ‘no thanks’ every time they send you unsolicited mail? Same rules apply here...they haven’t asked YOU to contact them, so you can’t be disappointed in them not replying Or Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... This... Rubbish analogy. Completely unsolicited in this context means your not looking to meet or for anything sexual at all. If you have it on your profile you want to meet men/women then it's not completely unsolicited when people message you. If you have on your profile that you want a take away, and then get a message from Dominoes it's not completely unsolicited. If on the other hand you have made no mention that you need food and then receive said offer it's unsolicited. I’d be a bit concerned if Dominoes were looking at everyone’s profile to see if people want a take-away. I won’t instantly delete the ‘do you want a 12” thick and crispy with extra cheese’ messages now... Hate to break it to you but most of our Internet history is probably used and sold on to third parties. So we should be putting disclaimers on for other organisations instead of just Sydney University " Well, if you think they’re worth the paper they’re figuratively written on... | |||
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"If I perceive the message to be genuinely thought out and well written, I will always respond. Yes this If I promise to write more than 2 lines, throwing the odd impressive word, will you guarantee to shag me? " If you can play the guitar its very likely | |||
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" Just don’t check your sent messages and get on with life. Then you never need to wonder... " This ! I delete my messages as soon as they are sent | |||
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"I have to say OP your thread opener was a pleasure to read and most of it very true! If someone has taken the time to compose a message befitting of my profile I will reply, even if it’s a polite no. Unfortunately most of my message as of few words, often arrogant and riddled with text speak I abhor. I understand your disdain at being ‘demoted’ but this is a place where such is bound to happen ... " Hear hear! I don’t think we’re giving the OP enough credit on how eloquently he has described what we men face. | |||
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"Honestly, this is one area where the bad do actually ruin it for the good. I only reply if I'm interested, generally. Because when I first joined I tried to let people down gently. Regardless of the message (x plus cock shot all the way through to hand crafted but not for me) I'd often get abuse back if I said no (I was never rude, far from it). And replying breaks my filters. " Howso? If they mailed you, they can mail you? | |||
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"I have to say OP your thread opener was a pleasure to read and most of it very true! If someone has taken the time to compose a message befitting of my profile I will reply, even if it’s a polite no. Unfortunately most of my message as of few words, often arrogant and riddled with text speak I abhor. I understand your disdain at being ‘demoted’ but this is a place where such is bound to happen ... Hear hear! I don’t think we’re giving the OP enough credit on how eloquently he has described what we men face." It's the internet. What do you expect? | |||
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"Honestly, this is one area where the bad do actually ruin it for the good. I only reply if I'm interested, generally. Because when I first joined I tried to let people down gently. Regardless of the message (x plus cock shot all the way through to hand crafted but not for me) I'd often get abuse back if I said no (I was never rude, far from it). And replying breaks my filters. Howso? If they mailed you, they can mail you?" If a guy messages me, I reply, then I put on the "no single guys" filter, they can message me again. For friends I don't mind. For someone I said no to, I mind very much. | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely " Someone actually used this line on me when I didn’t reply stating how he took time out of his day to send a personalised message to me... I had to remind him that he sent the same copy & paste message to me weeks before. Oops! | |||
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"Honestly, this is one area where the bad do actually ruin it for the good. I only reply if I'm interested, generally. Because when I first joined I tried to let people down gently. Regardless of the message (x plus cock shot all the way through to hand crafted but not for me) I'd often get abuse back if I said no (I was never rude, far from it). And replying breaks my filters. Howso? If they mailed you, they can mail you? If a guy messages me, I reply, then I put on the "no single guys" filter, they can message me again. For friends I don't mind. For someone I said no to, I mind very much. " Ok I get what you mean. | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely Someone actually used this line on me when I didn’t reply stating how he took time out of his day to send a personalised message to me... I had to remind him that he sent the same copy & paste message to me weeks before. Oops! " He needs more glitter stars in it so it bursts when you open it | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely " Well, it was either that or take a photograph of my cock, cut it up into geometric pieces and make a collage out of it. Either way the effect would have been the same. | |||
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"Couldnt be arsed to read it all. But it's all in the FAQ's. " I just noticed your very LONG profile narrative. I read it all. Do I get that gold star? | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely " Love that! Great analogy! | |||
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"Couldnt be arsed to read it all. But it's all in the FAQ's. I just noticed your very LONG profile narrative. I read it all. Do I get that gold star? " The best you can hope for is the cuppa that you made yourself | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely Well, it was either that or take a photograph of my cock, cut it up into geometric pieces and make a collage out of it. Either way the effect would have been the same. " Could have been a jigsaw cock. We have to reconstruct | |||
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"Couldnt be arsed to read it all. But it's all in the FAQ's. " Me either. FFS, it’s just delete and block. Equals not interested | |||
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"The most annoying thing for me is that the message remains unread and just stays there, festering. I would much rather the bloody thing be deleted as a way of saying no than it just remain unread. At least that way I get a decision and can abandon any hopenof a reply. So ladies, please, if the answer is no, please let us know by either replying or at the very least deleting! Thank you " No reply means not interested and the lady is under no obligation to reply. You’ll be one in a million messages to her and unfortunately she may not have time to reply to them all | |||
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"The most annoying thing for me is that the message remains unread and just stays there, festering. I would much rather the bloody thing be deleted as a way of saying no than it just remain unread. At least that way I get a decision and can abandon any hopenof a reply. So ladies, please, if the answer is no, please let us know by either replying or at the very least deleting! Thank you Then delete it. That way I get the message. Most don’t. It’s rude. No reply means not interested and the lady is under no obligation to reply. You’ll be one in a million messages to her and unfortunately she may not have time to reply to them all " | |||
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"If the lady you send the handcrafted message to deletes it then she isn't interested in you. If she sends a message back saying sorry I'm not interested then it still ends in the same result! So why does a reply matter?! Could you be bothered to send 20/30 (plucking numbers here) or even just 10 'thanks but no thanks' messages every day? Which then lead to more replies...." I think some just like the idea of the little yellow box that says (1 unread) when they refresh Fab. | |||
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"If the lady you send the handcrafted message to deletes it then she isn't interested in you. If she sends a message back saying sorry I'm not interested then it still ends in the same result! So why does a reply matter?! Could you be bothered to send 20/30 (plucking numbers here) or even just 10 'thanks but no thanks' messages every day? Which then lead to more replies.... I think some just like the idea of the little yellow box that says (1 unread) when they refresh Fab. " Clicking refresh over and over doesn't work...so I've been told haha | |||
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"If the lady you send the handcrafted message to deletes it then she isn't interested in you. If she sends a message back saying sorry I'm not interested then it still ends in the same result! So why does a reply matter?! Could you be bothered to send 20/30 (plucking numbers here) or even just 10 'thanks but no thanks' messages every day? Which then lead to more replies.... I think some just like the idea of the little yellow box that says (1 unread) when they refresh Fab. " I love the lack of yellow. It's amazing and rare. | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely " I love the idea of that | |||
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"If the lady you send the handcrafted message to deletes it then she isn't interested in you. If she sends a message back saying sorry I'm not interested then it still ends in the same result! So why does a reply matter?! Could you be bothered to send 20/30 (plucking numbers here) or even just 10 'thanks but no thanks' messages every day? Which then lead to more replies.... I think some just like the idea of the little yellow box that says (1 unread) when they refresh Fab. " Ah is THAT the colour the little message box goes when you get a message!? One day I’d like to find out ... | |||
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"Why is it like this because no-one gives a shit about how anyone else feels sad but true. We are all just a throw away commodity whether thats at the beginning of this journey or the end. We are all just one of many a number to be tossed aside at any given time. If you cant beat them you have to join them its the only way. Good luck " | |||
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"I agree OP and that's why I reply to all first messages, because I think it's rude not to. I also think that after a while men get pissed off with writing special messages and having them deleted with no reply, so that's why they just say "hi" - why bother writing a special message for it to be ignored?! I am a human being and want to be treated like one. So I treat people how I'd like to be treated. If people are happy treating other people like pieces of disposable meat, they shouldn't get upset when others do the same to them. " How very true. | |||
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"We try to reply to all messages even if it’s only to say no thanks but best of luck. Sometimes we then get persistent pestering which normally ends up in a block. Harsh but effective." The ‘persistent pestering brigade’ think ‘it’s a sex site ffs’ and think women are here to just have sex with anyone.....entitled men and it’s a right turn off. | |||
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"I love the hand crafted analogy for a message. Sitting there with scissors and pretty coloured words ready to glue them into something lovely " Back in the day... this would have been a ransom note | |||
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"If the lady you send the handcrafted message to deletes it then she isn't interested in you. If she sends a message back saying sorry I'm not interested then it still ends in the same result! So why does a reply matter?! Could you be bothered to send 20/30 (plucking numbers here) or even just 10 'thanks but no thanks' messages every day? Which then lead to more replies.... I think some just like the idea of the little yellow box that says (1 unread) when they refresh Fab. Ah is THAT the colour the little message box goes when you get a message!? One day I’d like to find out ... " Hahaha! It is! | |||
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"We try to reply to all messages even if it’s only to say no thanks but best of luck. Sometimes we then get persistent pestering which normally ends up in a block. Harsh but effective. The ‘persistent pestering brigade’ think ‘it’s a sex site ffs’ and think women are here to just have sex with anyone.....entitled men and it’s a right turn off. " | |||
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"Folk like to fuck and fornicate, but they don't always like to extend it to being intimate. So a letter that is thoughtful and considerate etc. Is sometimes just already too intimate." That does happen, if it's someone I'm not interested in. I think short and sweet is best for a first message, and witty works best of all. | |||
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