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What if it's true?

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman
over a year ago

London

The God thing I mean. Bear with me on this one...

I'm strolling through a packed city centre today and there's the usual believers on a PA system, spouting their usual stuff and as usual only the bored and homeless were showing vague interest.

I was observing hundreds of people wandering by, barely glancing over to the witnessing and I just thought what if they were actually right?

What if they know something we don't and all that heaven and hell stuff is actually true?

What sort of proof would you need to be convinced? Do you have that proof already or is it simple blind faith?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Curing of a dying person by placing a hand on a forehead or parting a whole sea with a stick would be pretty good.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman
over a year ago

London


"Curing of a dying person by placing a hand on a forehead or parting a whole sea with a stick would be pretty good. "

Yeah, that would do it for me too TBH...

Ever wondered if it's true though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trying not to be too cynical (and my brother is a bone fide Rural Dean) but religions were always a way of controlling the uneducated masses.

My personal belief is that eventually they will Peter out.

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By *opsy Rogers OP   Woman
over a year ago

London


"Trying not to be too cynical (and my brother is a bone fide Rural Dean) but religions were always a way of controlling the uneducated masses.

My personal belief is that eventually they will Peter out. "

Oh I utterly agree with you, Sky faries and all that but what if it IS true? What would convince you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An end of mankind event.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Trying not to be too cynical (and my brother is a bone fide Rural Dean) but religions were always a way of controlling the uneducated masses.

My personal belief is that eventually they will Peter out. "

Where religion is concerned I Paulled out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Paulled out by poster at 22/09/18 17:24:54]"

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By *ire_bladeMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Look it's all bollex but if a busty brunnet falls on my lap right now well what could I say but praise the lord

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Creation or evolution ??

Read Dan Browns ‘origin’

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"

What sort of proof would you need to be convinced? "

One single bit of evidence is all that is required.

Billions of god-believers have had thousands for years to come up with valid reasons for believing their god(s) are real. Not one valid reason to believe in any god has yet appeared despite thousands of attempts to find one.

This is why not believing in a god is the most intellectually robust and unequivocally honest position to hold. And why believing in a god is neither intellectually sound nor honest.

With such an abysmal track record, the chances of anyone discovering a good reason to believe in any known god are now vanishingly small.

So we can reasonably consider God does not exist.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think that if there was one of them that's true - leaving thousands of them that aren't - I'll take my chances, as I don't have enough time and energy to invest in to understanding them all well enough to be able to form a good judgement. I'd also need to predict all future ones, as well as those that have been forgotten, then compare them too. It would be a full time job.

I've settled for accepting that I'm probably not going to be living alongside anyone like a Jesus, where I'll be seeing the miracles etc, so I'm not going to have religious beliefs.

Born to be wild

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I'm not sure anything could convince me to be honest - having grown up in a religious environment where not practicing what was preached was a regular occurrence and self-righteousness was the norm, I'm far too cynical about it to believe anything as gospel even if it did appear to be divine intervention in nature.

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By *olfAndKittenCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

There was a scientist who said

"Not believing in god is illogical. If you do believe you get into heaven when you die, if there is no god then you have led an honourable life"

When you think about it, it is right in some aspects.

However there is the "deathbed" repent... Where (according to the bible) you are allowed to repent right up to the moment of death... So in other words, sin away and just before you pop off the mortal coil repent and all is good

So there is a "get out of jail free" card

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By *olfAndKittenCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

However i would also encourage googling "stephen fry on god" and watching the clip because he does nail it perfectly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Curing of a dying person by placing a hand on a forehead or parting a whole sea with a stick would be pretty good.

Yeah, that would do it for me too TBH...

Ever wondered if it's true though?"

Be nice to think there was someone looking out for us, but as 'he' does such a terrible job with most of the worlds population I err on the side of untrue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My aforementioned brother did a physics degree before he turned to his vocation.

He's a thoroughly nice bloke and does an incredible amount of good for the communities that he's vicared for (if that's even a word). And he's now undergoing training to be a bishop.

His physics degree gives him a unique view of evolution and creation.

However, I don't believe a word of the Bible which was rewritten over centuries to make sure that the population "did what they were told"

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By *antasticMrFucksMan
over a year ago

Taunton


"However i would also encourage googling "stephen fry on god" and watching the clip because he does nail it perfectly "

this

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Trying not to be too cynical (and my brother is a bone fide Rural Dean) but religions were always a way of controlling the uneducated masses.

My personal belief is that eventually they will Peter out.

Oh I utterly agree with you, Sky faries and all that but what if it IS true? What would convince you?"

I would be convinced if almost EVERYTHING that occurs and can be observed on this planet and the cosmos was completely different x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the question that's more interesting for me is what if it's basically true, albeit somewhat lost beneath a pile of folk thinking?

The temptation is to pile together a load of suppositions and if most of them don't work throw away the lot.

In this way, for example, we might assert that, as walking on water, turning water into wine, being born of a virgin, etc are all silly things, Jesus never existed. But what if a man called Jesus did exist, but this extra stuff was added hyperbole?

Similarly, what if a god actually does exist but all the usual silly stuff attributed to the idea is just silly hyperbole? That's a more interesting question imo.

In this sense it may be that upon the moment of death your awareness gets frozen in its final emotional state forever. If you die contented and happy, with no guilt or regrets, then you'll exist forever in this final state of contentment. But if you die in anguish, torn by regrets and guilt, you'll freeze in that final state forever. In this way the basic message of heaven and hell may be right... whilst the silly folk thinking around it is wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

What sort of proof would you need to be convinced?

One single bit of evidence is all that is required.

Billions of god-believers have had thousands for years to come up with valid reasons for believing their god(s) are real. Not one valid reason to believe in any god has yet appeared despite thousands of attempts to find one.

This is why not believing in a god is the most intellectually robust and unequivocally honest position to hold. And why believing in a god is neither intellectually sound nor honest.

With such an abysmal track record, the chances of anyone discovering a good reason to believe in any known god are now vanishingly small.

So we can reasonably consider God does not exist."

For some the Bible is enough evidence.

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