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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

On itv at the moment. A real shame to see this country going to shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get tough or be a victim. It's very simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not watching it but im very happy not to live anywhere where this happens..

We don't even get muggers where i live and the crime rate is very low...

Sheep and hay rustling is a thing though

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"On itv at the moment. A real shame to see this country going to shit. "

It's very Med isn't it ? Viva la Rome

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Give the Police the powers to chase these idiots and if safe (to the public not the muggers) tactically end the pursuit with the bonnet of a car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that's what happens when you let war age, religiously indoctrinated men from violent, oppressive places into the country.

Just pointing out the elephant in the room

Inb4 racism!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Give the Police the powers to chase these idiots and if safe (to the public not the muggers) tactically end the pursuit with the bonnet of a car. "

They have the powers. They don't have the policies..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a fking moped. Just let their tyres down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That Omar guy is a hero and the two thieves who were trying to break into estate agents were hilarious

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"It's a fking moped. Just let their tyres down "

Or practice running at more than 7mph

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS
over a year ago

Plymouth


"Well that's what happens when you let war age, religiously indoctrinated men from violent, oppressive places into the country.

Just pointing out the elephant in the room

Inb4 racism! "

Have you got any facts and figures to back up your belief that the majority of this crime is committed by the demographic you describe? If not we'll just have to put it down to you listening to Tommy Robinson too much...

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By *oresexMan
over a year ago

South West coast

Replace the stinger device with a length of steel bar to put through the mopeds front wheel at speed, then they probably be up to decamping on foot either.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Very scary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't walk and text. They will snatch you phone and see your pics of your cocks and vaginas

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Don't walk and text. "

Never gonna again!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well that's what happens when you let war age, religiously indoctrinated men from violent, oppressive places into the country.

Just pointing out the elephant in the room

Inb4 racism!

Have you got any facts and figures to back up your belief that the majority of this crime is committed by the demographic you describe? If not we'll just have to put it down to you listening to Tommy Robinson too much..."

The problem with elephants in the room is that they dont actually exist they are figments of over active imaginations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You mean London is the only problem with and nothing will change unless the mayor and government are changed and they will be soon....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You mean London is the only problem with it* and nothing will change unless the mayor and government are changed and they will be soon...."

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Nice to see progress on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nice to see progress on this. "

Run the cunts over

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Give the Police the powers to chase these idiots and if safe (to the public not the muggers) tactically end the pursuit with the bonnet of a car. "

They must have listened to your advice, that's exactly what they're doing good now.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"Nice to see progress on this.

Run the cunts over "

With a tank!

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By *isty286Couple
over a year ago

Dorset

Its a shame to see police cars being damaged, as we will all end up paying for the repairs, fit them with bull bars like in USA, so they can impact harder without scratching.

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By *amfabMan
over a year ago

Luton

Get cops on crossers , chase em ... Cos soon as someone dies it's gonna cause mayhem , and I'm not racist but soon as a black lad dies from being rammed it's gonna be across the country newspapers with black lives matter , riots will kick off and God knows what else .. like I said I'm not racist but that's how the media will spin it and then there will be protest's as public will think it was targeting black youths when a black youth dies .. and white kids or any other ethnicity won't have it spun by the media in that way .. not blaming anyone else but the main stream media for that outcome ... This is what will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s reasonable use of force.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"Get cops on crossers , chase em ... Cos soon as someone dies it's gonna cause mayhem , and I'm not racist but soon as a black lad dies from being rammed it's gonna be across the country newspapers with black lives matter , riots will kick off and God knows what else .. like I said I'm not racist but that's how the media will spin it and then there will be protest's as public will think it was targeting black youths when a black youth dies .. and white kids or any other ethnicity won't have it spun by the media in that way .. not blaming anyone else but the main stream media for that outcome ... This is what will happen "

It's not about targeting black lads it's about catching criminals, that's what the police are there to do!Tactics have to adapt to the circumstances, if ramming them is the only way to do it then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are using the mobility of the scooters, the polices lack of permission to do hard stops and the estates that are largely hostile to police when a certain segment of the population are out, to commit some very vicious theft type offences often using violence or the treat of, including throwing acid at counter staff at places they rob.

Getting bumped off the bonnet is perfectly reasonable as the criminals themselves have made it the only way to stop them.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight


"They are using the mobility of the scooters, the polices lack of permission to do hard stops and the estates that are largely hostile to police when a certain segment of the population are out, to commit some very vicious theft type offences often using violence or the treat of, including throwing acid at counter staff at places they rob.

Getting bumped off the bonnet is perfectly reasonable as the criminals themselves have made it the only way to stop them. "

This is the equivalent to closing a loophole, the villains know how to circumvent the likelihood of being chased and exploit it. The police need to fight fire with fire.

Somebody mentioned police cars being damaged, keep the battle scars and show that they are prepared to use this method to stop them.

Sadly you know deep down the law keepers are gonna be hit with a ban on this method of stopping them as a lawyer will win a case of unreasonable force to stop them is won in court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry for ruining the catchy thread name but mopeds are not being used. You can probably walk as fast as a moped. I think you may be referring to “scooters” which tend to have more power and larger engines than mopeds.

I’ll go back to my corner now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are using the mobility of the scooters, the polices lack of permission to do hard stops and the estates that are largely hostile to police when a certain segment of the population are out, to commit some very vicious theft type offences often using violence or the treat of, including throwing acid at counter staff at places they rob.

Getting bumped off the bonnet is perfectly reasonable as the criminals themselves have made it the only way to stop them.

This is the equivalent to closing a loophole, the villains know how to circumvent the likelihood of being chased and exploit it. The police need to fight fire with fire.

Somebody mentioned police cars being damaged, keep the battle scars and show that they are prepared to use this method to stop them.

Sadly you know deep down the law keepers are gonna be hit with a ban on this method of stopping them as a lawyer will win a case of unreasonable force to stop them is won in court. "

That would be like taking away the gas, batons, Tazers and guns. As long as they only stop when the only hazard is to the scooter riders, and they were committing at the time it’s fine legally.

It’s not an out and out ram, it’s touching the back wheel then breaking.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Sorry for ruining the catchy thread name but mopeds are not being used. You can probably walk as fast as a moped. I think you may be referring to “scooters” which tend to have more power and larger engines than mopeds.

I’ll go back to my corner now."

Definition of a moped, taken from the DirectGov website.

" What is a moped?

A moped is a motorcycle that has the following features:

maximum design speed not exceeding 50 kilometres per hour (km/h) (about 31 miles per hour (mph)

An engine capacity no greater than 50 cc

It can be moved by pedals, if the moped was first used before 1 September 1977."

Cal

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By *isty286Couple
over a year ago

Dorset


"They are using the mobility of the scooters, the polices lack of permission to do hard stops and the estates that are largely hostile to police when a certain segment of the population are out, to commit some very vicious theft type offences often using violence or the treat of, including throwing acid at counter staff at places they rob.

Getting bumped off the bonnet is perfectly reasonable as the criminals themselves have made it the only way to stop them. "

I was skip reading the replies, and read this one as "They are using mobility scooters" the look on my face would have been a picture I'm sure, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was skip reading the replies, and read this one as "They are using mobility scooters" the look on my face would have been a picture I'm sure, lol "

It’s the Hells Granny’s that use mobility scooters!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get the forces out on the street. Instigate martial law for a year or two. Use tanks and land rovers to knock them off the scooters.

Then get the government to adequately fund the police so they can do what they need to do and recruit more officers.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

I fell it would be much better to fit police vehicles with one of the systems like the RF Safe-Stop which use an electromagnetic pulse to disable the vehiles electronics causing the engine to stop. For one thing it would protect the police from the claims of use of excessive force. Not to mention reducing the risk of other people being injured when the bike goes sliding away as a result of this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry for ruining the catchy thread name but mopeds are not being used. You can probably walk as fast as a moped. I think you may be referring to “scooters” which tend to have more power and larger engines than mopeds.

I’ll go back to my corner now."

I just lifted it from the news headlines - alternatives could be:-

scooter scum, lambretta louts, vespa varmints, piaggio prats ad infinitum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fell it would be much better to fit police vehicles with one of the systems like the RF Safe-Stop which use an electromagnetic pulse to disable the vehiles electronics causing the engine to stop. For one thing it would protect the police from the claims of use of excessive force. Not to mention reducing the risk of other people being injured when the bike goes sliding away as a result of this."

How "directable" are these? Would there be a danger of knocking out the electrics of a near-by vehicle, or even the pacemaker of a passer-by?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I fell it would be much better to fit police vehicles with one of the systems like the RF Safe-Stop which use an electromagnetic pulse to disable the vehiles electronics causing the engine to stop. For one thing it would protect the police from the claims of use of excessive force. Not to mention reducing the risk of other people being injured when the bike goes sliding away as a result of this."

Is that not going to take out the vehicle it’s fitted to as well????

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any way I think baton rounds are the way to go, a little 37mm persuasion never hurt anyone ...... much.

Unless you mess with the rounds.

Or use the long range ones close up.

Or bounce em off the road.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference. "

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam."

I had a read-up - interesting bit of kit, but one of the concerns is "run-on". Hitting the moving scooter with the police car puts the rider on the floor within about 20 meters, there's a concern that with this gadget they can continue to freewheel but with no brake control putting pedestrians at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam."

37mm would be easier, cheaper and more adaptable

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam.

I had a read-up - interesting bit of kit, but one of the concerns is "run-on". Hitting the moving scooter with the police car puts the rider on the floor within about 20 meters, there's a concern that with this gadget they can continue to freewheel but with no brake control putting pedestrians at risk."

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders. "

I agree. Police officers should be better trained for physical duties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders.

I agree. Police officers should be better trained for physical duties. "

In Sheffield in the 1920’s a special squad was formed to deal with the escalating gang violence, basically by being complete cunts with training from a European judo champion.

They were disbanded after 2 years as they were no longer required.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam.

I had a read-up - interesting bit of kit, but one of the concerns is "run-on". Hitting the moving scooter with the police car puts the rider on the floor within about 20 meters, there's a concern that with this gadget they can continue to freewheel but with no brake control putting pedestrians at risk.

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system. "

I don't know much about hydraulics - aren't they either powered by an electric pump, or by the vehicle engine which would cut out from the EMP and reduce the power of the brakes?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam.

I had a read-up - interesting bit of kit, but one of the concerns is "run-on". Hitting the moving scooter with the police car puts the rider on the floor within about 20 meters, there's a concern that with this gadget they can continue to freewheel but with no brake control putting pedestrians at risk.

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system.

I don't know much about hydraulics - aren't they either powered by an electric pump, or by the vehicle engine which would cut out from the EMP and reduce the power of the brakes?"

No. They're powered by the riders hand.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"No, I believe they use a shaped "radar" emitter to produce a confined beam of rf signal with an effective range of about 50 m. Rather like using a reflector around the bulb on a torch to produce a more focused beam.

I had a read-up - interesting bit of kit, but one of the concerns is "run-on". Hitting the moving scooter with the police car puts the rider on the floor within about 20 meters, there's a concern that with this gadget they can continue to freewheel but with no brake control putting pedestrians at risk.

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system.

I don't know much about hydraulics - aren't they either powered by an electric pump, or by the vehicle engine which would cut out from the EMP and reduce the power of the brakes?"

They are not servo assisted as they are on a car.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders.

I agree. Police officers should be better trained for physical duties.

In Sheffield in the 1920’s a special squad was formed to deal with the escalating gang violence, basically by being complete cunts with training from a European judo champion.

They were disbanded after 2 years as they were no longer required. "

It's a shame readers of the Guardian newspaper wouldn't allow that to happen again.

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden

Glad folks are so up to date on the subject

Suggest folks google Operation Venice. The Police are now ramming the scooter thevies and IIRC this type of crime has already dropped by over 30%

A problem had arisen and a solution has been found.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

My mum was a victim of this type of crime almost 20 years ago . One jumped off the back of the bike in front of her and she thought he had fallen . She went to help him and he punched her in the face ,,, she fell he dragged her bag , she held on and he kicked her in the stomach . These scum bags got neighbourhood justice eventually. I’d have no problem running over the legs of these scumbags if they came off their bikes in front of my car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a certain sense of satisfaction watching the police knocking these bastards off their scooters on the news last night.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Glad folks are so up to date on the subject

Suggest folks google Operation Venice. The Police are now ramming the scooter thevies and IIRC this type of crime has already dropped by over 30%

A problem had arisen and a solution has been found. "

Yes. Why do you think i resurrected this thread?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"There was a certain sense of satisfaction watching the police knocking these bastards off their scooters on the news last night. "

It'll all end in a riot, you'll see. Some poor bugger's business up in flames because some piece of shit gets killed running from the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was a certain sense of satisfaction watching the police knocking these bastards off their scooters on the news last night.

It'll all end in a riot, you'll see. Some poor bugger's business up in flames because some piece of shit gets killed running from the police. "

Perhaps, we'll have to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders.

I agree. Police officers should be better trained for physical duties.

In Sheffield in the 1920’s a special squad was formed to deal with the escalating gang violence, basically by being complete cunts with training from a European judo champion.

They were disbanded after 2 years as they were no longer required.

It's a shame readers of the Guardian newspaper wouldn't allow that to happen again. "

Give them a slap an all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was a certain sense of satisfaction watching the police knocking these bastards off their scooters on the news last night.

It'll all end in a riot, you'll see. Some poor bugger's business up in flames because some piece of shit gets killed running from the police. "

Get the army on stand by, it would be like the good old days in Belfast and stroke city for em.

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Glad folks are so up to date on the subject

Suggest folks google Operation Venice. The Police are now ramming the scooter thevies and IIRC this type of crime has already dropped by over 30%

A problem had arisen and a solution has been found.

Yes. Why do you think i resurrected this thread? "

Going by the replies a lot aren’t

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

For people who think this is not a epidemic, check you tube Handmuffwarrior.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For people who think this is not a epidemic, check you tube Handmuffwarrior. "

Sounds like an aggressive fister

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nice to see progress on this.

Run the cunts over "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Met just need decent tunes to carry out this important and frankly brilliant work.

Police truck - Dead Kennedy’s

Riot squad - cocksparrer

Smash it up - the damned

Born to be wild - Stephan wolf

And anything by the crash test dummies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not watching it but im very happy not to live anywhere where this happens..

We don't even get muggers where i live and the crime rate is very low...

Sheep and hay rustling is a thing though "
same hete in deepest darkest wales lol only sheep round here

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach


"There was a certain sense of satisfaction watching the police knocking these bastards off their scooters on the news last night. "

Yes, I went and found the video on YouTube to enjoy it again.

They have no legal come back. If they refuse to stop, and put others in danger due to dangerous driving, then the Police are on pretty firm ground.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I watched it a few times myself very funny

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system. "

Most scooters use a centrifugal clutch system, so the bike would decellerate very quickly with the engine switched off...

The brakes will still work fine too, so this seems like a good idea.

Personally, even thought these people are violent criminals... their appreciation shouldn't involve a risk of death.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Moped brakes are not electrical. An EMP has no effect on a hydraulic system.

Most scooters use a centrifugal clutch system, so the bike would decellerate very quickly with the engine switched off...

The brakes will still work fine too, so this seems like a good idea.

Personally, even thought these people are violent criminals... their appreciation shouldn't involve a risk of death.

Cal"

But it would save a lot of time and effort for a lot of people.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

The police have been given powers to ram these moped muggers when seen, personally I think this is a step forward.

The police has been doing this for years up north, but it was never publicised as it is now.

Give it a while and they will get criticised for being heavy handed.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK


"The police have been given powers to ram these moped muggers when seen, personally I think this is a step forward.

The police has been doing this for years up north, but it was never publicised as it is now.

Give it a while and they will get criticised for being heavy handed."

They do now have some powers. Look at dailymail about the police now have powers to ram them but only special units. Even without helmets.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

Admin please remove if Facebook links aren't allowed.

But this is why "moped crime" needs to be heavily policed.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2186684018266457&id=1879962842271911

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5CgeTbJl31w - I’m not clicking a FB link but this is off YouTube documentary

Kinda makes you wish the police would just run straight over then reverse.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

surprise surprise dianne abbott dosent think this is a good idea.luckily no on gives a flying fuck what she thinks

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"surprise surprise dianne abbott dosent think this is a good idea.luckily no on gives a flying fuck what she thinks"

See my contribution to the post about liberals...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"surprise surprise dianne abbott dosent think this is a good idea.luckily no on gives a flying fuck what she thinks"

Put her on a bloody moped

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure."

I say give until they're 14. If someone's gonna grow up to be a waste of space you can tell by that age.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was crying with laughter watching the news seeing them get knocked off their mopeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure."

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

I say give until they're 14. If someone's gonna grow up to be a waste of space you can tell by that age. "

Utter fucking bollocks; read about John McAvoy for a start. I know loads of people who turned there lives around

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK


"Give the Police the powers to chase these idiots and if safe (to the public not the muggers) tactically end the pursuit with the bonnet of a car. "

They do now but only special units are allowed.

Bring in guns I say. Run from the police shoot to kill.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

If only we lived in a society where some men didn't see it as a competition to try and father as many children from as many women as possible. Then these kids might have a "father figures". A step i the right direction I say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas "

Cobblers. The real issue is that they are committing violent crimes and getting away with them so easily. Not so much now, eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's about time the MET were armed. We can't keep kidding ourselves that people respect the badge. Criminals respect consequences, loss of life seems to be all they care about, and I'm not even sure they care about that! How about "life for a knife" that might make a difference.

Mainland British police have been against being fully armed for years.

In the states most cops are killed with their own weapons during domestics and brawls or arrests.

In NI the suicide rate was phenomenal compared to other forces.

Plus people would target the officers specifically for their weapons.

With all the less than lethal options available today, how vastly improved the ‘fighting’ arts are compared to the old days, the home office need to sit back and have a long hard look at the type of people joining the police, the physical training and the combative side of policing.

I think it’s teaching the point where some areas don’t need or want a social worker in a stab vest with a degree in sociology and people skills.

They want people who are willing and able to deal with offenders and who will deter offenders. "

'People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf'

Attribute it to who you choose..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas "

A generation or two with parenting skills might help..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas

Cobblers. The real issue is that they are committing violent crimes and getting away with them so easily. Not so much now, eh? "

Prison as just a punishment doesn't and has never worked. Look at countries like Norway where the prison system is designed to rehabilitate far lower re-offending rates. You send someone who has been inside for 10 years back to where they came from they will re-offend.

I'm not saying every prisoner is suitable but the section of society we are talking about here can be worked with.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Liberals, labour party and kalergi politics...

They love this..

Those fuckwit criminals in London need to be exercuted.

I am a very "right wing" person...

I don't throw money at ungreatfull criminals and expect the people in their neighbourhoods just to casually cope living with chimpanzee.

Criminals are mainly sociopaths, ASPD and narcasism...

They are easily profiled.

In my society I wouldn't have them. They wouldn't exist. It would be like living in Singapoure.

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas

Cobblers. The real issue is that they are committing violent crimes and getting away with them so easily. Not so much now, eh?

Prison as just a punishment doesn't and has never worked. Look at countries like Norway where the prison system is designed to rehabilitate far lower re-offending rates. You send someone who has been inside for 10 years back to where they came from they will re-offend.

I'm not saying every prisoner is suitable but the section of society we are talking about here can be worked with.

"

Exactly this. We need to bring back forms of corporal punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

'People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf'

Attribute it to who you choose.."

Look at how the Sheffield constabulary dealt with gangs in the 1920’s.

Then, sit back and think how much you would like to pay me, or someone like me, to recruit, arrange training away form police.

And let the privatised heavy mob go.

Remember to put a time limit on the contract. I know a load of guys would love it. We’d even play the proffesionals theme tune.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"

'People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf'

Attribute it to who you choose..

Look at how the Sheffield constabulary dealt with gangs in the 1920’s.

Then, sit back and think how much you would like to pay me, or someone like me, to recruit, arrange training away form police.

And let the privatised heavy mob go.

Remember to put a time limit on the contract. I know a load of guys would love it. We’d even play the proffesionals theme tune. "

Were they made up of local men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

For someone who claims to be right wing and no doubt supports the EDL and other far right parties, you have a very poor grasp of the English language. We once fought against fascism and once the war was over we put in place a government to give us a fairer society.

Fuck hatred

As for running moped criminals off the road, wait until one is killed and the police officer who caused it is suspended.

The real issue here is what drives these youths into crime; we need better social housing and real opportunities for young disenfranchised young people in run down areas "

Throw money at the problem again?

Its what you socialist MARXIST COMMIES always do.

Perhaps it's got nothing to do with throwing money at people.

More to do with morrals crime and punishment.

These bastards in gangs are sociopaths who know that liberals like you give them everything that want and every excuse to attack vulnerable honest people.

I'm "center right"...if you can't deal with that it just shows how bolshie and Marxist you are.

I'm not "EDL" my views go alot deeper than that.

I'm a thatcherite!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Funny how I've been to many 3rd world slums in Asia and Africa and the poor people who live there are much more hospitable than sociopathic London hip hop communities with Dianne abbot and sadiq Khan to blame.

"Drill rap" is it?

Many 3rd world countries would eradicate the London crime problem in 1 month.

The president of philipeans ordered extra judicial killings of all the arse holes in manilla...

Philipeans don't tolerate dicks...

It's much safer in many 3rd world countries...

You multicultural leftists should go visit "3rd world" countries!

Many of them are safer than London!

I've been to abuja Nigeria/phenom penn. It's exactly like London for crime and safety. Both places had gangs and scammers etc... But London puts the 3rd world into prospective...

It's no more dangerous than abuja.

Bangkok and pattaya are safer than both!

You can walk freely around alot of 3rd world peasent countries and the peasants are nice humble people.

My condo in Thailand towered above the tin shack slum...

It was a safe slum...

So why are the chimpanzee sociopaths moped machete men in London being treated like "deprived" snowflakes?

It's because all the way from childhood liberal educators etc... have always offered them escape rope excuses for their lack of morrals and narcasism.

A smart culture would put a bullet in the head of the sociopath and feed them to the pigs...

Or put them in Thai prison/killing field/a Nigerian prison

They wouldn't be playing round in hmp....They would be rotting in a hole with parasites or simply dead.

3rd world countries are safer than socialist London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny how I've been to many 3rd world slums in Asia and Africa and the poor people who live there are much more hospitable than sociopathic London hip hop communities with Dianne abbot and sadiq Khan to blame.

"Drill rap" is it?

Many 3rd world countries would eradicate the London crime problem in 1 month.

The president of philipeans ordered extra judicial killings of all the arse holes in manilla...

Philipeans don't tolerate dicks...

It's much safer in many 3rd world countries...

You multicultural leftists should go visit "3rd world" countries!

Many of them are safer than London!

I've been to abuja Nigeria/phenom penn. It's exactly like London for crime and safety. Both places had gangs and scammers etc... But London puts the 3rd world into prospective...

It's no more dangerous than abuja.

Bangkok and pattaya are safer than both!

You can walk freely around alot of 3rd world peasent countries and the peasants are nice humble people.

My condo in Thailand towered above the tin shack slum...

It was a safe slum...

So why are the chimpanzee sociopaths moped machete men in London being treated like "deprived" snowflakes?

It's because all the way from childhood liberal educators etc... have always offered them escape rope excuses for their lack of morrals and narcasism.

A smart culture would put a bullet in the head of the sociopath and feed them to the pigs...

Or put them in Thai prison/killing field/a Nigerian prison

They wouldn't be playing round in hmp....They would be rotting in a hole with parasites or simply dead.

3rd world countries are safer than socialist London."

What a hate filled, odd little man you are.

So basically you are advocating state funded murder? You need some professional help and possibly a visit from the plod to dig up your garden and hopefully find some missing local women

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury

But is he wrong?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Funny how I've been to many 3rd world slums in Asia and Africa and the poor people who live there are much more hospitable than sociopathic London hip hop communities with Dianne abbot and sadiq Khan to blame.

"Drill rap" is it?

Many 3rd world countries would eradicate the London crime problem in 1 month.

The president of philipeans ordered extra judicial killings of all the arse holes in manilla...

Philipeans don't tolerate dicks...

It's much safer in many 3rd world countries...

You multicultural leftists should go visit "3rd world" countries!

Many of them are safer than London!

I've been to abuja Nigeria/phenom penn. It's exactly like London for crime and safety. Both places had gangs and scammers etc... But London puts the 3rd world into prospective...

It's no more dangerous than abuja.

Bangkok and pattaya are safer than both!

You can walk freely around alot of 3rd world peasent countries and the peasants are nice humble people.

My condo in Thailand towered above the tin shack slum...

It was a safe slum...

So why are the chimpanzee sociopaths moped machete men in London being treated like "deprived" snowflakes?

It's because all the way from childhood liberal educators etc... have always offered them escape rope excuses for their lack of morrals and narcasism.

A smart culture would put a bullet in the head of the sociopath and feed them to the pigs...

Or put them in Thai prison/killing field/a Nigerian prison

They wouldn't be playing round in hmp....They would be rotting in a hole with parasites or simply dead.

3rd world countries are safer than socialist London."

Drill isn’t rap. It’s a specific type of gangland hip hopish dis music the vibe each other shit with.

State sponsored murder is never good, especially places like Brazil where the police were murdering homeless kids in the 8os for back handers.

The police are using the law, legal use of force, as laid down in the olde books. They are just working outside the box to try and detain these fucks.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"Funny how I've been to many 3rd world slums in Asia and Africa and the poor people who live there are much more hospitable than sociopathic London hip hop communities with Dianne abbot and sadiq Khan to blame.

"Drill rap" is it?

Many 3rd world countries would eradicate the London crime problem in 1 month.

The president of philipeans ordered extra judicial killings of all the arse holes in manilla...

Philipeans don't tolerate dicks...

It's much safer in many 3rd world countries...

You multicultural leftists should go visit "3rd world" countries!

Many of them are safer than London!

I've been to abuja Nigeria/phenom penn. It's exactly like London for crime and safety. Both places had gangs and scammers etc... But London puts the 3rd world into prospective...

It's no more dangerous than abuja.

Bangkok and pattaya are safer than both!

You can walk freely around alot of 3rd world peasent countries and the peasants are nice humble people.

My condo in Thailand towered above the tin shack slum...

It was a safe slum...

So why are the chimpanzee sociopaths moped machete men in London being treated like "deprived" snowflakes?

It's because all the way from childhood liberal educators etc... have always offered them escape rope excuses for their lack of morrals and narcasism.

A smart culture would put a bullet in the head of the sociopath and feed them to the pigs...

Or put them in Thai prison/killing field/a Nigerian prison

They wouldn't be playing round in hmp....They would be rotting in a hole with parasites or simply dead.

3rd world countries are safer than socialist London.

Drill isn’t rap. It’s a specific type of gangland hip hopish dis music the vibe each other shit with.

State sponsored murder is never good, especially places like Brazil where the police were murdering homeless kids in the 8os for back handers.

The police are using the law, legal use of force, as laid down in the olde books. They are just working outside the box to try and detain these fucks. "

And more power to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Were they made up of local men?"

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"

Were they made up of local men?

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended. "

I don't know if that would work in London. I'm thinking bribes bribes and more bribes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Were they made up of local men?

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended.

I don't know if that would work in London. I'm thinking bribes bribes and more bribes. "

Hire guys for who the buzz is the payoff

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"

Were they made up of local men?

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended.

I don't know if that would work in London. I'm thinking bribes bribes and more bribes.

Hire guys for who the buzz is the payoff "

Sounds dangerous......i like it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Were they made up of local men?

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended.

I don't know if that would work in London. I'm thinking bribes bribes and more bribes.

Hire guys for who the buzz is the payoff

Sounds dangerous......i like it. "

They should just hire me to sort this shit out. I’m a Rhodie, we good at this

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP   Man
over a year ago

salisbury


"

Were they made up of local men?

Yes local working class men, some veterans some just big and tough, hired as special constables directed by experienced Sargents. And they got a judo champion in to give them tips on fighting. After 2 years that squad was disbanded. Gang problem ended.

I don't know if that would work in London. I'm thinking bribes bribes and more bribes.

Hire guys for who the buzz is the payoff

Sounds dangerous......i like it.

They should just hire me to sort this shit out. I’m a Rhodie, we good at this "

Just dress up like a bat....

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