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"It's nearly as good as the samsung note 9,but not quite " Will the iPhone do the burning trick too? | |||
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"All I need to know: Can you make telephone calls on it, and browse t’internet? Oh ok, and take a fairly decent photograph too? Other than that, not really interested in any other bobbins. Oh other than can I listen to music? And on Bluetooth!? Ah ok .. my needs aren’t as basic as I first thought! " Your point is still valid though, top end phones are almost a grand, and for the brand new models over a grand, I haven't paid more than two hundred for a phone in over six years, normally get a new one every two years, they do 95% of what the top end phones do, can never understand the need to walk round with a grands worth bit of kit in ya pocket especially when 99% of people will never use it to its full potential... | |||
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"6.5” Super Retina OLED edge to edge screen. Dolby vision with a 120 mhz refresh rate and 458ppi. All with a 512 gB storage capacity " Apple misleads again. 120hz touch sample rate not refresh rate. No fast charger in the box, no usb-c to audio dongle either. And all fit £1,500. Talk about calling customer's idiots! Android devices have had actual 120hz refresh rates and over 500ppi for ages! | |||
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"I love how now apple are pointing out their ridiculous pricing for 4 year old tech with their naming conventions. The iPhone excess" The camera in the new iPhone is 4 year old tech? I must admit that surprises me. | |||
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"6.5” Super Retina OLED edge to edge screen. Dolby vision with a 120 mhz refresh rate and 458ppi. All with a 512 gB storage capacity Apple misleads again. 120hz touch sample rate not refresh rate. No fast charger in the box, no usb-c to audio dongle either. And all fit £1,500. Talk about calling customer's idiots! Android devices have had actual 120hz refresh rates and over 500ppi for ages!" 120hz refresh rates have been common on Android devices for ages? I must admit I didn’t know that. So it’s not just the Razor phone, specifically aimed at gamers, that came out less than a year ago then? | |||
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"The Sony Xperias could run their displays at 120hz as far back as 2016 with custom runs and the Sharp aquos r shortly after in 2017. The Galaxy S4 had 441ppi in 2013 and the s6 577 in 2015. The Sony xperia xz2 premium 765ppi and xz premium from 2017, 801ppi. What Apple has is incredible marketing." The 120Hz on the Xperias require a custom mod to access / run it, which is not something any typical user is ever going to do. And reports were that it didn’t seem to work very well. So it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest that this is a featuew of them. Yes, Apple has great marketing, but I’d sooner compare a phone on things like overall experience, camera quality, resale value than dick waving stats that, like camera megapixels back in the day, have long since reached the point where they don’t really make any noticeable difference. | |||
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"The point is Apple still isn't running a 120hz refresh rate even now. Just misleading people who don't know better by saying 120hz 'touch sample rates'. And 467ppi is nothing to brag about. If you are looking at overall experience, what about products like the OnePlus 6 with similar specs and less than half the price. Or the Huawei P20 Pro with amazing triple camera or the mi mix 2s and so on. Apple doesn't innovate. At least not anymore. And the prices keep skyrocketing. That's how they've hit 1trillion revenue. I'm not a fanboy. Apple is an incredible company but no necessarily to the advantage of the consumer. And for an industry leader, they are disappointing. But feel free to give them your money. I'll keep mine. Xx " But why do you say ‘even now’ as though it is standard on other phones, when clearly it isn’t. And how is it misleading though? How else would you like them to describe a screen that samples touch 120 times every second, if not “touch sample rate”? Arguably it’s more of a benefit to more people. Refresh rate is mostly of benefit to hardcore gamers. Who, presumably don’t actually do much of their hardcore gaming on a phone. But a screen that recognises touch more often will affect the responsiveness of everyday use whenever a user is interacting with the screen, so in theory smoother animations and responsiveness. I wouldn’t say they don’t innovate anymore - I’d say theere’s quite a bit of innovation in things like Face ID and the cameras on the new iPhones. Innovation often seems to get confused with ‘invent’. And I’m not saying there aren’t other great phones out there, clearly there are. | |||
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"The point is Apple still isn't running a 120hz refresh rate even now. Just misleading people who don't know better by saying 120hz 'touch sample rates'. And 467ppi is nothing to brag about. If you are looking at overall experience, what about products like the OnePlus 6 with similar specs and less than half the price. Or the Huawei P20 Pro with amazing triple camera or the mi mix 2s and so on. Apple doesn't innovate. At least not anymore. And the prices keep skyrocketing. That's how they've hit 1trillion revenue. I'm not a fanboy. Apple is an incredible company but no necessarily to the advantage of the consumer. And for an industry leader, they are disappointing. But feel free to give them your money. I'll keep mine. Xx " | |||
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"Phones are too big these days. I'll stick with my 5 SE." it’s not a bad phone at all I’ve got one as a spare and it’s got the 6 parts inside it. | |||
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"My initial comment was for the OP and others like him who based on his comment had clearly misunderstood and assumed refresh rate and touch sample rate are the same. The Sharp aquos R I mentioned had 120hz refresh rate over a year ago. The Asus ROG phone also has 90hz and 1ms response time which is also arguably more useful than what a Apple has. These may not be the norm but over 500ppi has been the norm for ages on numerous Android devices which is what I was referring to. I do appreciate your acknowledgement that there are other amazing devices out there. I also am not saying the iPhones aren't great, just that the prices are ridiculous for what they offer and what they don't. Heck, it costs about $375 to make these devices!" Sure, but if people are getting the terminology of two similarish things mixed up, I would disagree that that amounts to Apple misleading people. Heck, I don’t think they even mention ‘touch refresh rate’ in the tech specs on the website. So I’m just now sure how Apple are misleading anyone here? With PPI, screens have long since gotten past the point where you can really notice a difference, so it’s largely just dick waving. The parts for an iPhone might cost $375, but presumably there are other costs, like R&D, manufacturing, marketing, logistics. Oh, and the software. It seems that upgrades to phones generally has become less and less recently as smartphones have matured. It feels like the camera is the main component that is seeing the biggest upgrades still. From reviews of the new iPhone even over last year’s the camera looks way better. Looks like they have made the sensor larger, and are doing some clever stuff with the HDR. It’s all pretty subjective perhaps, but I’d say there are only a few devices with a camera as good as or better than the new iPhone. | |||
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"I love still how people bash others choices " I'm sorry, I think you misunderstand. Not bashing anyone's choices, just commenting on the effectiveness of Apple's marketing and how expensive their devices are getting. Are the small differences in camera for instance worth the price differenciation or is it all hype? It may of course just be that those of us who are younger and/or maybe have less disposable income feel more of a need to see justification for such pricing. However each to their own. | |||
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"No thanks I'm happy with Xiaomi. Wouldn't ever buy a Apple overpriced old dated technology" What actually is all this outdated technology? | |||
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