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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

My mum employs a cleaner I also use the term loosely.

Whether they move furniture or not is something that should be negotiated at the interview stage I realise now. Often they will say no outside windows, no moving furniture.

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"My mum employs a cleaner I also use the term loosely.

Whether they move furniture or not is something that should be negotiated at the interview stage I realise now. Often they will say no outside windows, no moving furniture. "

I didn't interview ..I've not met the woman ..I'm the one that cleans the rooms after she's been.. your mum like mine must have that clever dust that doesn't find those places under furniture and beds..or like my mum your mum has someone else who cleans under those objects.

It's Shameful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?"

Not quite the same thing but at my old job (a private nursery) we did all our own cleaning. We stopped getting paid at 6pm but were there some nights until 7pm cleaning. The nursery eventually hired a cleaner, three nights a week for three hours each night to do deep cleaning. He was useless, and we eventually put butter in a corner (one of his jobs that night was to clean the skirting boards) and when we came in the next morning the butter was still there, as were some ants.

The cleaners at my current job refuse to clean anything. We put the tables up at night (they’re like those one you get in school dinner halls big circular) and he won’t even wheel it to the left a wee bit to hoover. Over the summer we were quiet so I began a massive deep clean, and he popped in and said he should be doing half of it but never does!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?"

I do and no she doesn’t move sofas and beds etc. Don’t think many would to be honest

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"My mum employs a cleaner I also use the term loosely.

Whether they move furniture or not is something that should be negotiated at the interview stage I realise now. Often they will say no outside windows, no moving furniture.

I didn't interview ..I've not met the woman ..I'm the one that cleans the rooms after she's been.. your mum like mine must have that clever dust that doesn't find those places under furniture and beds..or like my mum your mum has someone else who cleans under those objects.

It's Shameful."

It is shameful. It's a difficult situation because older people often don't like to speak out and also they become friendly with the cleaner making it awkward. My mum also becomes upset if I say I'll sort it out and she doesn't like change. So, as you say someone else cleans up the dust behind the bed, behind the sofa, the grease around the cooker etc. I don't begrudge a minute of it but that woman is being paid, if I was taking someone's money I'd take a bit of pride in my work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I employ a cleaner, and he moves and cleans whatever I tell him to move and clean. He's a paid employee, and if he doesn't do the job to my satisfaction I'll fire him and find someone who will. My pet hate is incompetent employees, I'll be damned if I'm paying some lazy bugger to do sweet FA.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I employ a cleaner, and he moves and cleans whatever I tell him to move and clean. He's a paid employee, and if he doesn't do the job to my satisfaction I'll fire him and find someone who will. My pet hate is incompetent employees, I'll be damned if I'm paying some lazy bugger to do sweet FA. "

It depends what's agreed to when you take on employment though. My mum's cleaner said she wouldn't move heavy furniture. Her definition of heavy is very different to mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I employ a cleaner, and he moves and cleans whatever I tell him to move and clean. He's a paid employee, and if he doesn't do the job to my satisfaction I'll fire him and find someone who will. My pet hate is incompetent employees, I'll be damned if I'm paying some lazy bugger to do sweet FA.

It depends what's agreed to when you take on employment though. My mum's cleaner said she wouldn't move heavy furniture. Her definition of heavy is very different to mine"

True, I drew up a cleaning schedule, including moving certain items occasionally and every potential cleaner got a copy. I pay a bit over the top, so I expect perfection!

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?

I do and no she doesn’t move sofas and beds etc. Don’t think many would to be honest "

Aaah you have that special dust that only settles in open areas as well

I'd be embarrassed to call myself a cleaner leaving any ones house as my mums is left.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?

I do and no she doesn’t move sofas and beds etc. Don’t think many would to be honest

Aaah you have that special dust that only settles in open areas as well

I'd be embarrassed to call myself a cleaner leaving any ones house as my mums is left."

Have a word with the cleaner, or leave a note. Is she from a company, or self-employed?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I employ a cleaner, and he moves and cleans whatever I tell him to move and clean. He's a paid employee, and if he doesn't do the job to my satisfaction I'll fire him and find someone who will. My pet hate is incompetent employees, I'll be damned if I'm paying some lazy bugger to do sweet FA.

It depends what's agreed to when you take on employment though. My mum's cleaner said she wouldn't move heavy furniture. Her definition of heavy is very different to mine

True, I drew up a cleaning schedule, including moving certain items occasionally and every potential cleaner got a copy. I pay a bit over the top, so I expect perfection!"

Good idea. If my mum ever needs another cleaner I intend to do that.

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"My mum employs a cleaner I also use the term loosely.

Whether they move furniture or not is something that should be negotiated at the interview stage I realise now. Often they will say no outside windows, no moving furniture.

I didn't interview ..I've not met the woman ..I'm the one that cleans the rooms after she's been.. your mum like mine must have that clever dust that doesn't find those places under furniture and beds..or like my mum your mum has someone else who cleans under those objects.

It's Shameful.

It is shameful. It's a difficult situation because older people often don't like to speak out and also they become friendly with the cleaner making it awkward. My mum also becomes upset if I say I'll sort it out and she doesn't like change. So, as you say someone else cleans up the dust behind the bed, behind the sofa, the grease around the cooker etc. I don't begrudge a minute of it but that woman is being paid, if I was taking someone's money I'd take a bit of pride in my work"

Yep exactly the same ..my mum watches me have to clean after the cleaner has been and I'm sure deep down she's not happy with the cleaner..when I say I'll be sorting it with the cleaner .I end up arguing with mum .. not like mum has loads of cash to spare ..annoys the f**K out of me ..she's taking money for doing next to nothing

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?

I do and no she doesn’t move sofas and beds etc. Don’t think many would to be honest

Aaah you have that special dust that only settles in open areas as well

I'd be embarrassed to call myself a cleaner leaving any ones house as my mums is left.

Have a word with the cleaner, or leave a note. Is she from a company, or self-employed?"

She's self employed..I've not met the woman, I've said to my mum I'll have words and ended up arguing with my mum as she doesn't want me to .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Draw up a checklist of what you want done.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"My mum employs a cleaner I also use the term loosely.

Whether they move furniture or not is something that should be negotiated at the interview stage I realise now. Often they will say no outside windows, no moving furniture.

I didn't interview ..I've not met the woman ..I'm the one that cleans the rooms after she's been.. your mum like mine must have that clever dust that doesn't find those places under furniture and beds..or like my mum your mum has someone else who cleans under those objects.

It's Shameful.

It is shameful. It's a difficult situation because older people often don't like to speak out and also they become friendly with the cleaner making it awkward. My mum also becomes upset if I say I'll sort it out and she doesn't like change. So, as you say someone else cleans up the dust behind the bed, behind the sofa, the grease around the cooker etc. I don't begrudge a minute of it but that woman is being paid, if I was taking someone's money I'd take a bit of pride in my work

Yep exactly the same ..my mum watches me have to clean after the cleaner has been and I'm sure deep down she's not happy with the cleaner..when I say I'll be sorting it with the cleaner .I end up arguing with mum .. not like mum has loads of cash to spare ..annoys the f**K out of me ..she's taking money for doing next to nothing "

Part of the problem is that my mum will say one thing to the cleaner and another to me. I tend to take the line of least resistance now and do whatever needs doing when I'm there. It's just not worth upsetting my mum.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Any ladies or gents employ or use a domestic cleaner ?... my mum has a cleaner (I use the term loosely) would you expect oor know if the cleaner should or could move household furniture, chair settee, a hospital bed that's on wheels ?

I do and no she doesn’t move sofas and beds etc. Don’t think many would to be honest

Aaah you have that special dust that only settles in open areas as well

I'd be embarrassed to call myself a cleaner leaving any ones house as my mums is left.

Have a word with the cleaner, or leave a note. Is she from a company, or self-employed?

She's self employed..I've not met the woman, I've said to my mum I'll have words and ended up arguing with my mum as she doesn't want me to . "

I'd leave it. It's difficult for parents to hand over the reins to their children. I feel your pain though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Draw up a checklist of what you want done."

Yes. Maybe sit down with your Mother over a pint of gin and make a list together of what you both feel needs to be done, and how it's done. Mothers can be tiresome

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

They get paid by the hour. Usually minimum wage. I guess there should be clear communication from the start.

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

I used to have one and the majority will only clean around large pieces of furniture. Some will do a more deep clean but it's a different pay rate etc and they suggest it every few months.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person? "

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning.

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By *good-being-bad OP   Man
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning. "

Mum has a hospital bed it's on wheels easily moved or swept mopped under, the sofa I've raised about 4" so mum can get up easier so is easily swept mopped under she just doesn't..*ucking useless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning.

Mum has a hospital bed it's on wheels easily moved or swept mopped under, the sofa I've raised about 4" so mum can get up easier so is easily swept mopped under she just doesn't..*ucking useless."

If its easy enough for the hoover or mop to get under then, then that is probably a bit lazy yes.

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By *aeBabeWoman
over a year ago

London

Over the years we had a few live-in housekeepers growing up, my mum would check in on their work and show them what to do and the way she wanted things done. She wasn't mean about it, just firm and particular, she gave them a schedule. Some of them worked hard and others were lazy.

You have to set out the way you want things done and how they are done, if the cleaner isn't up to the task, replace them. Best to get a cleaner through an agency.

Now living on my own with a flatmate, I wish we had a cleaner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lucky me, I have a brilliant cleaner with a bit of OCD the house is spotless. Moves furniture, makes sure all the labels in the cupboard are facing outward. The good ones are out there

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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago

button moon

I've worked as a private cleaner, never occurred to me to not move furniture, one home had 4 huskies, I used to pull out the washing machine to hoover behind, or I'd just feel I'd done half a job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning. "

Dont look behind my sofa then will you

Depends how heavy the furniture. You wouldnt want to knacker your back if you had more places to go onto. Anything on wheels or dining room type chairs would be ok I think.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

I’m old school. You can pay me minimum wage or the earth but the job gets done properly and with pride.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning.

Mum has a hospital bed it's on wheels easily moved or swept mopped under, the sofa I've raised about 4" so mum can get up easier so is easily swept mopped under she just doesn't..*ucking useless."

The problem I have is that my mum is probably not reporting accurately what she's saying to the cleaner. I know she uses me as an excuse so rather than saying she isn't happy with something she'll say that I'm not .

Also it's hard to have your children offering to intercede on your behalf. You've already had to give up a large part of your independence, having your kid talk to the cleaner on your behalf must feel humiliating.

Can you bear to leave it and just pick up the slack for the sake of harmony? I know how difficult that is, trust me.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think a lot of cleaners self employed or otherwise would be reluctant to move heavy items of furniture about, especially by themselves. Thats more likely classed as a deep clean requiring extra negotiation/money and another person?

I agree but I think moving armchairs and the sofa is normal everyday cleaning.

Dont look behind my sofa then will you

Depends how heavy the furniture. You wouldnt want to knacker your back if you had more places to go onto. Anything on wheels or dining room type chairs would be ok I think. "

I wouldn't expect anyone to put themselves at risk but I can easily move the beds when I change them and even if I couldn't I could push the hoover underneath them.

I genuinely don't think it's asking too much that visible or easily accessible dust is hovered up.

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