FabSwingers.com forum: Would you shoot to protect your family

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yes I would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no."

That and more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was an American, I’ll shoot people anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t watch it so dunno the reasons but yeah I reckon I would. Another one I was asked once was would you lie under oath to protect your loved ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do anything to protect my daughter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I would do anything it took to protect my kids

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

I don’t have access to a gun. If I did I certainly wouldn’t know how to use it but I’d defend my loved ones until the end. I should think I make an excellent human shield.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wife and two daughters in danger hell yeah id def shoot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
over a year ago

Tamworth

I've fired shots in anger to protect myself and others and I'd do it again.

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By *ubsteffTV/TS
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Yes, and when I’d run out of bullets, beat them with the gun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was an American, I’ll shoot people anyway

What about a Syrian?

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Yes without a shadow of a doubt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes without a doubt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was an American, I’ll shoot people anyway

What about a Syrian? "

What about Syrian?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, I don't have a gun!

Would hit them with stuff, stab them and otherwise cause harm to protect my family, but can't shoot them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd probably miss but yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Anything to protect my loved ones !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes id happily throttle them to death too without any shadow if a doubt

Gin knife bat hands dosnt matter u would end them

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By *albec26Man
over a year ago

Great Yarmouth

Obviously you would protect your family...I guess it's a primal instinct.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, obviously!

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By *horecruxCouple
over a year ago

SE4

Yeah.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was an American, I’ll shoot people anyway

What about a Syrian?

What about Syrian? "

Would you shoot people anyway if you were Syrian?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gun, brick, fists, spoon, I'd use anything to hand, in a heartbeat, to protect my family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes without a second thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the other person(s) were armed or an obvious threat to life and I had a gun, like a terrorist with a suicide vest on I'd happily do hearts and minds, or just mind if they have a vest on.

If you're talking regular intruder to your home (without a firearm) I keep items that could be found in a bedroom, hair spray and a lighter under my bed should anyone ever break in, home made flame thrower to the face instead of serving time for premeditated assault by taking a weapon to bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I was an American, I’ll shoot people anyway

What about a Syrian?

What about Syrian?

Would you shoot people anyway if you were Syrian? "

No, only if I was an American

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m no angel and completely get people saying yes they would but it’s one thing saying it, completely different pulling the trigger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a trained martial artist i would hope i wouldnt need a gun to defend my family. But IF i had to then yes without doubt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Absolutely, and in the absence of a gun I'd stab, kick, punch, bite, headbutt or throttle anyone who was going to hurt a member of my family

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m no angel and completely get people saying yes they would but it’s one thing saying it, completely different pulling the trigger.

If it's kill or be killed then I'm pulling that trigger!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice "

Then you go to jail so who’s gona look after the kids?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I would do whatever it took. Got me a Mossberg 500 standing idle these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd set the world on fire to protect my kids. Jail or no jail

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice

Then you go to jail so who’s gona look after the kids? "

See this is exactly how I think! ^^^ Although probably wouldn’t at the time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So that's a yes and a no right!!??

"If the other person(s) were armed or an obvious threat to life and I had a gun, like a terrorist with a suicide vest on I'd happily do hearts and minds, or just mind if they have a vest on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice

Then you go to jail so who’s gona look after the kids? "

If I had to do life to protect the lives of my kids I wouldn’t hesitate. But the law is there to protect you. You can use reasonable force to protect yourself or another and sometimes that reasonable force means killing somebody. As long as you can justify it you’re in the clear.

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

If shoot someone full stop

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no."

Yes. No hesitation if I honestly believed their lives were at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no.

Yes. No hesitation if I honestly believed their lives were at risk."

Honest belief, you know your Card A

#ROE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the other person(s) were armed or an obvious threat to life and I had a gun, like a terrorist with a suicide vest on I'd happily do hearts and minds, or just mind if they have a vest on.

We should be friends

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester

I’d happily shoot someone just for being a div nevermind putting someone’s life in danger

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

So pretty much everyone would , yet pretty much none of us have one .

It’s small wonder the Americans don’t want gun laws changed , as they do have them , and yes I’d use one to protect my family if I had one too .

But I wouldn’t want laws changed here so we could all have one .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So pretty much everyone would , yet pretty much none of us have one .

It’s small wonder the Americans don’t want gun laws changed , as they do have them , and yes I’d use one to protect my family if I had one too .

But I wouldn’t want laws changed here so we could all have one ."

Problem is an unloaded gun is about as useful as a brick, but a loaded gun can accidently kill the wrong people and often does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely don’t know. And I’d have to live with the consequences, but I’m just not good at hurting people physically.

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By *ymaleMan
over a year ago

nr Bradford

Absolutely, couldn't imagine living with the consequences of not doing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we had guns in this country, people will start shooting people for overtaking them

Some real hot heads behind the wheel lol

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no.

Yes. No hesitation if I honestly believed their lives were at risk.

Honest belief, you know your Card A

#ROE"

I'm a big fan of Mozambique standard pattern......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I genuinely don’t know. And I’d have to live with the consequences, but I’m just not good at hurting people physically."

I'm not either, but if the choice was between them getting hurt or one of my loved ones, I wouldn't hesitate.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"If we had guns in this country, people will start shooting people for overtaking them

Some real hot heads behind the wheel lol "

You can fuck off, your talking like a completely ignorant fucking cu....... * oh, hold on......

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

Again? Ok, yes.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I shoot people for fun in paintball and airsoft, shooting people in defence of course I would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Certainty because it is easier to shoot than have close contact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am pretty sure everyone would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty."

It's easy to be certain while typing on a forum. Most would try threat and negotiation first in reality.

Personally I wouldn't, I would assume any attacker to be beyond negotiation and use one of the 4 swords in my bedroom or the 2 in my living room or the axes in my dining room..... let's just say it would be a bad plan to attack my home....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am pretty sure everyone would. "

I’m pretty sure if people had guns they will shoot people for cutting their way or saying something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty."

What's the alternative?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?"

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate."

I'd quite happily drive a harpoon through someone's heart given that scenario

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate.

I'd quite happily drive a harpoon through someone's heart given that scenario "

You have a harpoon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice

Then you go to jail so who’s gona look after the kids? "

Nope, as long as it's reasonable in defence of yourself or another..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we had guns in this country, people will start shooting people for overtaking them

Some real hot heads behind the wheel lol "

We do have guns in this country and they are frequently carried in vehicles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate.

I'd quite happily drive a harpoon through someone's heart given that scenario

You have a harpoon? "

Who doesn't have a harpoon??

I keep it next to my Trident

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who wouldn't? I'd be the next scarface

"say hello to my little friend"

And lay waste!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was thinking bigger picture. I would do anything to protect my family, specifically my child and part of the protection is being around her, so I'd protect in a lawful way and use anything to hand that couldn't be classed as a weapon as it's the intent that can turn a regular gbh charge into a section 18 offence which is a hefty prison sentence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes without a second thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate.

I'd quite happily drive a harpoon through someone's heart given that scenario

You have a harpoon?

Who doesn't have a harpoon??

I keep it next to my Trident

Is it wrong that I kind of want a harpoon now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100% yes. I'd even shoot to protect my pets!!

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty."

Some of us have trained for it professionally, I'd have no dramas shooting someone who broke into my house with violent intentions or was attacking a friend or family member if there was no other option. Obviously if I could incapacitate them through non lethal means I would.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m surprised by everyone’s certainty.

What's the alternative?

Exactly, faced with the choice of shooting somebody or watching your family get killed, it’s not even up for debate.

I'd quite happily drive a harpoon through someone's heart given that scenario

You have a harpoon?

Who doesn't have a harpoon??

I keep it next to my Trident

Is it wrong that I kind of want a harpoon now

I think it's perfectly rational

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would do anything at all to protect my son.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100% yes. I'd even shoot to protect my pets!!"

Ah...too far!...

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By *ve 66Woman
over a year ago

Blackwood

After being burgled always got a baseball bat by my bed now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"After being burgled always got a baseball bat by my bed now. "

You should get a harpoon instead!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there were no other means to protect them, then yes. But I'm of the hide mentality first and foremost. I'd likely try barricading myself and them in my bedroom, then call the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, I would probably defend any victim family or not. Primary aim would be to incapacitate and restrain. But if a higher level was needed it wouldn't be the first time. Although training is ancient history now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100% yes. I'd even shoot to protect my pets!!

Ah...too far!...

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maybe for you but not me lol. My pets are like my kids lol.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was thinking bigger picture. I would do anything to protect my family, specifically my child and part of the protection is being around her, so I'd protect in a lawful way and use anything to hand that couldn't be classed as a weapon as it's the intent that can turn a regular gbh charge into a section 18 offence which is a hefty prison sentence. "

I think in the heat of the moment, being selective about your weapon might not be an option. It doesn't matter anyway, it's about reasonable force and self defence that kills is lawful homicide..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d like to think yes I would, but I’m the the heat of the moment...... it’s unknown to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My poor children, left exposed by their lily liveried vacillating mother. I’ll just have to hope the hypothetical intruder threatens them at someone else’s house.

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

We have a number of friends in the USA and I occasionally work over there. Have the gun discussion all the time and they have different views. I have friends totally opposed to gun control and friends with large collections of guns.

I have to say, when I’m in say, Chicago or LA I would definitely have firearms. It’s gone too far there now you will never stop gun ownership in a million years. So yes I would have guns for Home defence and also in the car, and I would use them if the situation dictated. I wouldn’t want to shoot anyone and certainly not to go hunting, other than rats. I would also take classes in how to use them correctly because if you use them and miss it’s a bad mistake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Animals kill other animals all the time & have done since the beginning. It's the natural order of things.

Humans are just another animal. We're not special, we're just smart & ruthless. Mankind is the most savage beast in the kingdom & that's why we're top of the food chain.

I'm not condoning murder here, but when it comes to your survival & that of your young, your instincts will take over & you will do everything & anything to stop your attacker.

Including harpooning them in the face

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By *cnawwtysCouple
over a year ago

pie ville

If anybody says no they wouldn’t thats a family I wouldn’t want to be a part of. Family is everything and I’d happily lay down my life to protect the ones I love

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I had a gun, I would shoot some one for cutting me up or pulling out in front of me on the road.

Nothing like thinning the herd a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah, fuck em, I'd run off

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By *aid backMan
over a year ago

by a lake with my rod out

How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car)

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Without a doubt, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

Fired a gun yes

Killed an animal with a bird of prey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

No to both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If anybody says no they wouldn’t thats a family I wouldn’t want to be a part of. Family is everything and I’d happily lay down my life to protect the ones I love "

Just

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

Fired several different types of gun & even threw a hand grenade once.

I've mercy killed a pigeon that got half killed by my mum's cat once. Wasn't a pleasant feeling, but then the pigeon wasn't trying to kill my family.

Don't think I would have felt as bad if he'd flown in all tooled up & trying to start some beef

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

The first, more times than I can count.

The second, vermin, rats mainly and sadly a horse that was beyond saving & in absolute agony.

Possibly the hardest thing I've ever had to do

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Newcastle-under-Lyme

Yes. Absolutely.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

I grew up on a farm and I joined the army, so yes to both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ofcors i will shoot the fuckers...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think I would prefer a club, or a sword to a gun, much easier to be sub lethal. Though it does depend on the gun and skill of the operator.

But yes in my life I have fired a variety of guns, could be proficient with them, but pleased to live in a country where I don't have or need access to one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a load of criminals on here, good thread tho, me personally i wouldn't only because once i am caught im going jail and then i have lost my loved ones, would have to leave it to the crappy law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

I'm intrigued to hear why you asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car)

I'm intrigued to hear why you asked

I killed duck by ax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If anybody says no they wouldn’t thats a family I wouldn’t want to be a part of. Family is everything and I’d happily lay down my life to protect the ones I love "

Well you know, my kids are OK, but they’re replaceable if necessary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've fired shots in anger to protect myself and others and I'd do it again. "

Really? In what circumstances?

Not that I wouldn't if I needed to, but I've Been in some pretty dodgy situations and yet to think a gun would have been a better solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If anybody says no they wouldn’t thats a family I wouldn’t want to be a part of. Family is everything and I’d happily lay down my life to protect the ones I love

Well you know, my kids are OK, but they’re replaceable if necessary.

Just push another out. Job done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d do anything to protect my kids, so yes, I’d shoot if I had to, wouldn’t think twice

Then you go to jail so who’s gona look after the kids? "

A young mother protecting her kids in self defence, no she wouldn't. The media wouldn't allow it

and the media run the country and set the agendas, she'd be fine.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Certainly make road rage much more entertaining!!!

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I don't know all the circumstances of the plot. But in general yes to protect in a situation where that is only feasible way to protect. I have no moral worry and the mindset to do that as it is completely rational to me. As is in the law granted to us. As to how I got hold of a firearm in the first place I'm sure the police would be intrested.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car)

The first, more times than I can count.

The second, vermin, rats mainly and sadly a horse that was beyond saving & in absolute agony.

Possibly the hardest thing I've ever had to do "

Ditto to all.

A cat not a horse though.

And ditto it being one of the hardest things I've done.

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
over a year ago

Tamworth

"I've fired shots in anger to protect myself and others and I'd do it again.

Really? In what circumstances?

Not that I wouldn't if I needed to, but I've Been in some pretty dodgy situations and yet to think a gun would have been a better solution. "

I was in the Forces.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would....

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Ted talk on YouTube, why I chose the gun. An argument on the need for lethal force and ideally it being the monopoly of a democratic and stable State.

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By *ewrocksWoman
over a year ago

button moon

I don't have a gun.

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By *iscean MaleMan
over a year ago

Darlaston

A choice between them and my family.. yes I would to protect my own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jesus !! To think some of you meet people off here and we invite some into our house. No wonder no one swings anymore your all not jobs chatting this kinda shit!

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

I dont have access to a g.. but yes if I did I would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was legal to own a firearm and I had one, then yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no."
I don't have a gun but I certainly would protect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

Fired a gun many times. SA80, LSW, GPMG and browning 9mm although been quite a while now.

Never killed an animal as they've never tried to hurt me or my family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car)

Fired a gun many times. SA80, LSW, GPMG and browning 9mm although been quite a while now.

Never killed an animal as they've never tried to hurt me or my family. "

I've fired these, as well as AK47, bren, and Lee Enfield no4 .303.

I would shoot to protect my family. No doubts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On my way home one night there was a badger trying to crawl up the verge. It had clearly been hit by a car and had a broken back. I had my tools in the boot so I used my hammer to put it out of its misery. As I hit it I had tears in my eyes, but I couldn't bare to leave it suffering, It could have been in pain for hours. I felt miserable all evening. I hope I never have to kill anything again. I'd like to think I would do my best to protect anyone that was in trouble, specially loved ones. I hope I could do that with out having to kill but, if it was the only available option...yes I would shoot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Question.

(Yes watching Eastenders while eating tea, i know its fiction)

Would you shoot someone to protect your flesh and blood.

Not looking for reasons, not bothered if its right or wrong

Just yes or no."

Ben has said for years its why we need a 2nd amendment in the UK. The only ones with the weapons are the ones breaking in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of criminals on here, good thread tho, me personally i wouldn't only because once i am caught im going jail and then i have lost my loved ones, would have to leave it to the crappy law

Well that’s where you are wrong. The law states that any person can use reasonable force to protect themselves or others. What is reasonable depends on the level of threat. Killing somebody under a life and death situation is reasonable so nobody is going to jail. It’s all about justification of your actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

I’ve fired a gun but I’ve never killed an animal because I’m not an animal killing kind of guy. But if that animal was charging at my family in order to eat them then I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot it.

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By *othrockercplCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Town

Yes.

However you have to make sure that you shoot them in the front not the back of the body.

If you shoot them in the back of the body it can be construed that they were leaving and then you can be done for murder as opposed to claiming self defense.

I think..

Ms GR

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By *ormerWelshcouple2020Man
over a year ago

Stourbridge

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

Fired guns yes many times and many types.

Killed an animal yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes.

However you have to make sure that you shoot them in the front not the back of the body.

If you shoot them in the back of the body it can be construed that they were leaving and then you can be done for murder as opposed to claiming self defense.

I think..

Ms GR "

Correct. As per the old guy years ago, Tony something I think. Shot a burglar in the back with a shotgun as he was running away from his house. As the burglar was running away the threat was gone hence his prison sentence. Many others since have killed burglars in their homes and not got as far as court. They are arrested and interviewed which is the only way to establish the facts in an evidential manner, then the cps review it and say no charge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes.

However you have to make sure that you shoot them in the front not the back of the body.

If you shoot them in the back of the body it can be construed that they were leaving and then you can be done for murder as opposed to claiming self defense.

I think..

Ms GR

Tony Martin the guy was called.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wife’s a better shot.

I’d hand the gun to her so no fear of missing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think I would prefer a club, or a sword to a gun, much easier to be sub lethal. Though it does depend on the gun and skill of the operator.

But yes in my life I have fired a variety of guns, could be proficient with them, but pleased to live in a country where I don't have or need access to one."

Dead is dead, the means is immaterial but a gun, which was the subject of the original question, is by far the best option.

It's academic anyway, because it's illegal to have any item with the intention that it will be used for self defence/causing harm or injury. The only exception is where you might grab something to hand in the heat of the moment and use it in self defence. Perfectly legal and justifiable but you must have the honestly held belief that you or another you are defending are in immediate threat of serious injury or death. That's the tricky but when it comes to court.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of criminals on here, good thread tho, me personally i wouldn't only because once i am caught im going jail and then i have lost my loved ones, would have to leave it to the crappy law

Okay reasonable force im sure they would need to have a gun aswell, because if they dont have any weapon and you shoot them your going jail mate, the other thing is living with the continuing thought of killing someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely although probably not so much if it was Aunty Bev she's a cunt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of criminals on here, good thread tho, me personally i wouldn't only because once i am caught im going jail and then i have lost my loved ones, would have to leave it to the crappy law

No, it's not about equality of force, it's about reasonable force. If you are being attacked by a man mountain using his bare hands but intent on killing you, and you are 8 stone dripping wet, but have a gun, using that gun in self defence is reasonable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very true, just make sure you have a licensed gun and certificates then.

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By *oerow16Man
over a year ago

Essex/ London

Yes if there lives was in danger and it's a case of they guy who thinks they have the right to come Into your property with out your permission then yeah they risk being shoot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Very true, just make sure you have a licensed gun and certificates then."

As I said. It's illegal to have any item with the intent to use it that way, including lawfully licensed firearms. The odds of you being able to get it out, load it and use it in a spontaneous attack are pretty remote. There have been incidents where lawfully held firearms have been used in self defence, but they are rare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think I would prefer a club, or a sword to a gun, much easier to be sub lethal. Though it does depend on the gun and skill of the operator.

But yes in my life I have fired a variety of guns, could be proficient with them, but pleased to live in a country where I don't have or need access to one.

Dead is dead, the means is immaterial but a gun, which was the subject of the original question, is by far the best option.

That’s true but no court in the land can say what you did or didn’t believe at any given time. If you stick to the story that you honestly believed you or another were in serious danger you’d be alright. It wouldn’t get as far as court unless there was other evidence which proved you are lying or exaggerating. Reasonable force is a grey area tho, there’s no legal definition so each case is tested on its own merits.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car)

Fired a gun many times. SA80, LSW, GPMG and browning 9mm although been quite a while now.

Never killed an animal as they've never tried to hurt me or my family. "

I've fired those barring the Browning (we have Glock now) and also the 50 cal HMG which is a lot of fun on ranges! Growing up on a farm I had access to shotguns and air rifles as a teenager so did used to shoot rats, rabbits and Starlings as pest control for my dad, but haven't done any of that in about 15 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Very true, just make sure you have a licensed gun and certificates then.

Intent can be difficult to prove and some items are far too easy for some to possess. It baffled me completely when I first started training with a sword that the company I bought mine from could only sell me a blunt modern replica if I produced certificates and licenses from a registered club confirming I was using it to practice martial arts but could sell me a razor sharp Katana if it was made using traditional methods with out any checks whatsoever. I hope that law has been sorted out!

Sorry, that was off on a tangent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think I would prefer a club, or a sword to a gun, much easier to be sub lethal. Though it does depend on the gun and skill of the operator.

But yes in my life I have fired a variety of guns, could be proficient with them, but pleased to live in a country where I don't have or need access to one.

Dead is dead, the means is immaterial but a gun, which was the subject of the original question, is by far the best option.

Granted, a lot depends on the presentation at court though. It is heartening to see a general trend in favour of the person doing the defending, even if they have used a gun against a non gun threat. There used to be a presumption that a gun was not acceptable as a means of defence.

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

All day,everyday.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

100% yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would do absolutely anything to protect my family and even some of my close friends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn't even have to think about it, I would do anything too protect my nearest and dearest.

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

No.

Or at least I wouldn't shoot to kill. I have fired both handguns and rifles (at targets).

I'd be of the mindset to hide them and call the police.

I did once chase after a mugger to try and get my bag bag (at midnight and he was over a foot taller than me).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt give it second thought. Id more bothered about the pooling on my carpet lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many people who said yes have ever fired a gun or ever killed a living animal? (not including insects or hit with a car) "

The thing is the person you are shooting to hopefully kill, has lost your respect and is threatening you and your family.

It is quite easy to shoot a stranger, there is very little emotional attachment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without hesitation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For family and friends. And maybe others if they needed protecting. But i got a cattle slaughtering axe so........

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By *ebra LoungeCouple
over a year ago

Dublin

Depends who it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without hesitation yes

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