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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time." Who? If I could get £2.7m for doing fuck all I'd probably do it too. Good for her. 
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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time. Who? If I could get £2.7m for doing fuck all I'd probably do it too. Good for her.
"There's no probably about it I would, no question at all. I wouldn't want to be on telly though, that's the problem  | |||
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"Pocket money. I could spend that in an afternoon "on pizza? | |||
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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time. Who? If I could get £2.7m for doing fuck all I'd probably do it too. Good for her.
There's no probably about it I would, no question at all. I wouldn't want to be on telly though, that's the problem "I could be one of those car crash reality stars. The ones where you watch through your fingers whispering "what the actual FUCK is she doing??!" Maybe they could do it on radio. | |||
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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time. Who? If I could get £2.7m for doing fuck all I'd probably do it too. Good for her.
There's no probably about it I would, no question at all. I wouldn't want to be on telly though, that's the problem
I could be one of those car crash reality stars. The ones where you watch through your fingers whispering "what the actual FUCK is she doing??!"
Maybe they could do it on radio. "I have a face that is well suited to radio so that would work . I imagine a reality radio show along the lines of The Archers | |||
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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time." Im surmising that you're the male half of the couple ? What have you been doing free all these years? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. " Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? " Do you class reality 'stars' the same as criminals? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? "  thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? Do you class reality 'stars' the same as criminals?" There was an implication that meeting a demand for something, and making money off it, was clever. I don't think the supply being legal or not would change that logic since not every thing that is bad, is illegal. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same? "I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so. | |||
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"According to the Sunday mag-a certain fat,gobby Essex bird is worth 2.7 million. Damn-I've been doing it for free all this time. Im surmising that you're the male half of the couple ? What have you been doing free all these years?" No I'm the female half.what have I been doing- being an Essex bird. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? " No, I wouldn't. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? No, I wouldn't. " So is the legality of what they do sufficient to make the distinction or am I missing something? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so. "Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? No, I wouldn't. So is the legality of what they do sufficient to make the distinction or am I missing something? " I would rather someone made millions from reality tv than illegal activity, yes. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?"My thoughts too. I see it as a sign, not a cause. I’ve yet to see someone overdose and die from reality tv. Suicides related to a wide variety of other issues yes - including online bullying, mental health issues, lack of media savviness, loneliness, low self esteem, inadequate support networks etc. But from binge watching Towie? No. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? No, I wouldn't. So is the legality of what they do sufficient to make the distinction or am I missing something? I would rather someone made millions from reality tv than illegal activity, yes. " But just because something is legal, that doesn't make it good or worthy of respect. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
My thoughts too. I see it as a sign, not a cause.
I’ve yet to see someone overdose and die from reality tv. Suicides related to a wide variety of other issues yes - including online bullying, mental health issues, lack of media savviness, loneliness, low self esteem, inadequate support networks etc. But from binge watching Towie? No. "It's indirect, yes | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?"I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? No, I wouldn't. So is the legality of what they do sufficient to make the distinction or am I missing something? I would rather someone made millions from reality tv than illegal activity, yes. But just because something is legal, that doesn't make it good or worthy of respect. " You're right, it doesn't. I think someone with few talents exploiting what little they have legally is a good thing though. By and large we get the "celebrities" we deserve. | |||
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"Pocket money. I could spend that in an afternoon "Spend it harrods lol | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? No, I wouldn't. So is the legality of what they do sufficient to make the distinction or am I missing something? I would rather someone made millions from reality tv than illegal activity, yes. But just because something is legal, that doesn't make it good or worthy of respect. You're right, it doesn't. I think someone with few talents exploiting what little they have legally is a good thing though. By and large we get the "celebrities" we deserve." That's what we call "the bigotry of low expectations" though. You perceive them as having few talents because they have never needed to develop any. Whether they could or not is debatable. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to. "Definitely agree - it's vacuous and supports a 'give it all to me now for no cost or effort' attitude which is unfortunate. But I think there are degrees of bad and for me the two things compared earlier are at different levels. | |||
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I just think it's a sad world now, that people hold "reality stars" in such high esteem | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to.
Definitely agree - it's vacuous and supports a 'give it all to me now for no cost or effort' attitude which is unfortunate. But I think there are degrees of bad and for me the two things compared earlier are at different levels. "It's on par with prostitution in my book. It's not as bad as drugs. Drugs are bad. | |||
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I just think it's a sad world now, that people hold "reality stars" in such high esteem "People you know or just 'people'? | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to.
Definitely agree - it's vacuous and supports a 'give it all to me now for no cost or effort' attitude which is unfortunate. But I think there are degrees of bad and for me the two things compared earlier are at different levels.
It's on par with prostitution in my book. It's not as bad as drugs. Drugs are bad. "Didn't you say earlier that some prostitutes provide a service?  | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to.
Definitely agree - it's vacuous and supports a 'give it all to me now for no cost or effort' attitude which is unfortunate. But I think there are degrees of bad and for me the two things compared earlier are at different levels.
It's on par with prostitution in my book. It's not as bad as drugs. Drugs are bad.
Didn't you say earlier that some prostitutes provide a service? "Exactly and reality TV isn't inherently evil. Sometimes it's fine to relax ones brain for an hour or so. My issue is when 95% of the content of most commercial networks is complete vacuous (like that word) shite. | |||
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"Good on her for making the most of what she's got. She couldn't have done it if the general public didn't buy in to reality shows. Would you apply the same logic to a successful crack dealer of pimp who had low IQ? thick reality stars, though irritating, aren’t harming anyone.
Crack dealers and pimps etc make their money from the misery and exploration of vulnerable people. Is this the same?
I would dispute both statements as universally true. I would say that some reality TV degrades the moral fabric of a country, far more than pimps. Some pimps are bad, probably most. But sometimes hookers are performing a valuable service and choosing to do so.
Does reality tv degrade the moral fabric of the country... or just reflect it?
I used to think it was harmless, but now i appreciate the opportunity of cost of it. There are only so many shows that will get made, only so many budgets for production, only so many column inches to promote them etc. It's like junk food, filling the nation with empty calories when they would eat something nutritious if they had to.
Definitely agree - it's vacuous and supports a 'give it all to me now for no cost or effort' attitude which is unfortunate. But I think there are degrees of bad and for me the two things compared earlier are at different levels.
It's on par with prostitution in my book. It's not as bad as drugs. Drugs are bad.
Didn't you say earlier that some prostitutes provide a service?
Exactly and reality TV isn't inherently evil. Sometimes it's fine to relax ones brain for an hour or so. My issue is when 95% of the content of most commercial networks is complete vacuous (like that word) shite. "I was looking for something to watch yesterday and there's a big range of programmes. Depends on the tv service. Netflix offers different programmes to Sky for example. Not sure which networks are 'commercial'. Ch4 and Ch5 have a lot of reality shows but a wide range of other shows too. We're not doomed just yet. | |||
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"Well I didn't think that would happen with this post .
I just think it's a sad world now, that people hold "reality stars" in such high esteem
People you know or just 'people'?"Some people-Well probably lots of them- going by how 'successful ' reality stars are . | |||
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"Some people-Well probably lots of them- going by how 'successful ' reality stars are ." Thing is only those who want to watch will watch, we all have off buttons or chanel change options. If enough people are willing to pay to watch someone do something they will make money, as will the tv company, its staff, their agent, and various others. None of them force an audience. So good luck to them. | |||
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"Some people-Well probably lots of them- going by how 'successful ' reality stars are . Thing is only those who want to watch will watch, we all have off buttons or chanel change options. If enough people are willing to pay to watch someone do something they will make money, as will the tv company, its staff, their agent, and various others. None of them force an audience. So good luck to them." Nobody is forced to eat junk food. It's still bad for you. | |||
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"Well I didn't think that would happen with this post .
I just think it's a sad world now, that people hold "reality stars" in such high esteem
People you know or just 'people'?
Some people-Well probably lots of them- going by how 'successful ' reality stars are ."I think it's more a case of car crash curiosity than people looking up to them. | |||
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" Nobody is forced to eat junk food. It's still bad for you. " If you stopped people doing things that are potentially bad for them swinging would be banned along with driving, walking, leaving the house etc... | |||
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" Nobody is forced to eat junk food. It's still bad for you. If you stopped people doing things that are potentially bad for them swinging would be banned along with driving, walking, leaving the house etc... " But if doesn't mean we have to promote them. We don't ban junk food. We just ban certain forms of advertising of it to vulnerable audiences. | |||
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" Nobody is forced to eat junk food. It's still bad for you. If you stopped people doing things that are potentially bad for them swinging would be banned along with driving, walking, leaving the house etc... But if doesn't mean we have to promote them. We don't ban junk food. We just ban certain forms of advertising of it to vulnerable audiences. " ? Are you sure? Fairly certain my tv shows adverts for fast food and soda drinks far more often than it does healthy food. People are strange, I indulge in weird stuff that others would find dangerous, questionable, and boring, but it's my choice. If they don't stop me riding motorcycles, cutting up timber, or falling out of airplanes I won't stop them watching amateurs on their televisions.  | |||
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