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"Cynical marketing ploy or a company taking a risk for free speech ?!" It is very clever.. people who used to hate the players who kneeled during the anthem now hate Nike too and despite people burning Nike’s trainers, Nike isn’t worried about that because their customer is not 40+ white male.. their ideal customers are young people and icons who help shape the culture. In addition to the above Nike has gained £45M media exposure since the campaign started. | |||
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"Cynical marketing ploy or a company taking a risk for free speech ?! It is very clever.. people who used to hate the players who kneeled during the anthem now hate Nike too and despite people burning Nike’s trainers, Nike isn’t worried about that because their customer is not 40+ white male.. their ideal customers are young people and icons who help shape the culture. In addition to the above Nike has gained £45M media exposure since the campaign started. " It’s a brilliant campaign | |||
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"Cynical marketing ploy or a company taking a risk for free speech ?! It is very clever.. people who used to hate the players who kneeled during the anthem now hate Nike too and despite people burning Nike’s trainers, Nike isn’t worried about that because their customer is not 40+ white male.. their ideal customers are young people and icons who help shape the culture. In addition to the above Nike has gained £45M media exposure since the campaign started. It’s a brilliant campaign " considering that most Trump voters are old middle to old age Americans and Nike is a global brand.. the campaign is going to win more people’s hearts globally than make a fraction of the amount of trump voters hate Nike. So if you are worried about Nike, Nike is safe  | |||
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"strong message, and i respect that." Will it make you buy Nike over other brands? | |||
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"What is it? I dont watch tv" They selected Colin Kaepernick, an outcast American football player and civil rights activist, as the face of its new global advertising campaign as its most divisive move. He had been a polarising figure since 2016, when as a player for San Francisco 49ers he refused to stand during the national anthem. At first he sat as a protest, then sank to his knee. It was intended to draw attention, he said to, to the killings of African Americans and other injustices. | |||
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"strong message, and i respect that. Will it make you buy Nike over other brands? " lol i already buy nike, but no i wont increase my spending on the brand just cause of the advert. | |||
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"I refuse to buy a product for £100 plus that costs £5 to make" That’s correct.. their practices are no better than Amazon’s warehouse workers treatment | |||
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"What is it? I dont watch tv They selected Colin Kaepernick, an outcast American football player and civil rights activist, as the face of its new global advertising campaign as its most divisive move. He had been a polarising figure since 2016, when as a player for San Francisco 49ers he refused to stand during the national anthem. At first he sat as a protest, then sank to his knee. It was intended to draw attention, he said to, to the killings of African Americans and other injustices. " . A civil rights activist? | |||
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"What is it? I dont watch tv They selected Colin Kaepernick, an outcast American football player and civil rights activist, as the face of its new global advertising campaign as its most divisive move. He had been a polarising figure since 2016, when as a player for San Francisco 49ers he refused to stand during the national anthem. At first he sat as a protest, then sank to his knee. It was intended to draw attention, he said to, to the killings of African Americans and other injustices. . A civil rights activist?" Yes, you read that correct. | |||
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"I don't know how you can join up with Nike for civil liberty when they hire children to make there shoes at some slave like conditions " You can as long as you don’t bring your dirty laundry in the main stream media.. not saying it’s right but | |||
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"Great add, really clever of Nike. Not revlevent but Interesting fact re: Adidas and Puma, created by two German brothers who were part of the nazi movement , I do believe. " No shit?! Really? | |||
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"To put the sweatshop mutterings in perspective. Practically everything you own will have some component or ingredient that isn’t ethnically sound in it. From the precious metals in your tablets and smartphones that have been scraped out of a mountain in the Congo by a child indentured slave to the thread on your clothes. Tragic but unavoidable really " True.. but you can try your best about what you know | |||
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"Great add, really clever of Nike. Not revlevent but Interesting fact re: Adidas and Puma, created by two German brothers who were part of the nazi movement , I do believe. No shit?! Really? " Yea, as far as I remember. I’m sure they had a fall out over one of them so the other brother went and created the other brand. | |||
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"Nike played a certain group of people brilliantly because all they saw was a billboard and a quote They got outraged over 5 seconds in a 2 minute advert They in effect burnt their gear over the inspirational stories of Alfonso Davies, and lebron James, and serena Williams.... Its shows the difference between black America and white America It’s shows the difference between left leaning America and trumps America Of course you’ll never anyone stupid enough to admit they burnt their gear over the ad... but you can guess the people criticising the ad won’t have seen the advert!" Facebook is full of videos people burning their Nike stuff | |||
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"Nike played a certain group of people brilliantly because all they saw was a billboard and a quote They got outraged over 5 seconds in a 2 minute advert They in effect burnt their gear over the inspirational stories of Alfonso Davies, and lebron James, and serena Williams.... Its shows the difference between black America and white America It’s shows the difference between left leaning America and trumps America Of course you’ll never anyone stupid enough to admit they burnt their gear over the ad... but you can guess the people criticising the ad won’t have seen the advert!" Why did people burn New Balance? Two years ago? | |||
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"Nike played a certain group of people brilliantly because all they saw was a billboard and a quote They got outraged over 5 seconds in a 2 minute advert They in effect burnt their gear over the inspirational stories of Alfonso Davies, and lebron James, and serena Williams.... Its shows the difference between black America and white America It’s shows the difference between left leaning America and trumps America Of course you’ll never anyone stupid enough to admit they burnt their gear over the ad... but you can guess the people criticising the ad won’t have seen the advert!" Stupidest people on the planet, destroying something they’ve already paid for, over free speech. | |||
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"Nike played a certain group of people brilliantly because all they saw was a billboard and a quote They got outraged over 5 seconds in a 2 minute advert They in effect burnt their gear over the inspirational stories of Alfonso Davies, and lebron James, and serena Williams.... Its shows the difference between black America and white America It’s shows the difference between left leaning America and trumps America Of course you’ll never anyone stupid enough to admit they burnt their gear over the ad... but you can guess the people criticising the ad won’t have seen the advert! Why did people burn New Balance? Two years ago? " The owners agreed with Trumps economic policy. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37948946/new-balance-trainer-wearers-bin-and-burn-their-shoes-over-trump This was the first link I found, so excuse that it's for children's news! | |||
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"Burning stuff is in trend at the moment.. remember people burning the EU flag but it didn’t catch fire because of EU regulations on flammable materials "Lol lol lol  | |||
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"Cynical marketing ploy or a company taking a risk for free speech ?!" I don't think they have taken a risk for free speech, but I do think it is not a cynical marketing ploy. I think it's more along the lines of taking a stand over free speech and any free publicity they get is a bonus. There is no risk. As has been said earlier in the thread, their target market are going to lap up the controversy, not hide away from it. Would it make me buy their product? Unlikely. Their clothes are overpriced and I'm not a big fan of their running trainers (outside work and running, I wear Converse rather than traditional trainers) | |||
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"And very soon it will go from burning flags to civil war. Multiracial societies are doomed to collapse and conflict, it’s just a matter of time. " Only if you treat the non-majority as second class citizens. | |||
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"What is it? I dont watch tv They selected Colin Kaepernick, an outcast American football player and civil rights activist, as the face of its new global advertising campaign as its most divisive move. He had been a polarising figure since 2016, when as a player for San Francisco 49ers he refused to stand during the national anthem. At first he sat as a protest, then sank to his knee. It was intended to draw attention, he said to, to the killings of African Americans and other injustices. . A civil rights activist? Yes, you read that correct." . I don't follow American sports much, so what civil rights is he in activism for? | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. " It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people  | |||
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"There are more white Americans shot and killed unlawfully by the police. BLM is just another tool used to instigate division, funded by Soros. But not to worry, the Civil War is coming soon." More white Americans shot and killed unlawfully by the police... hmm.. is that correct? | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people ". So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok? | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?"No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men | |||
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"I don't know how you can join up with Nike for civil liberty when they hire children to make there shoes at some slave like conditions " | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men "Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking! | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking! "How sure are you and what’s your source? | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking! "No I think you need to go and look at the statistics. | |||
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"I think you will find that more white Americans are killed unlawfully by the police than blacks." Where are these stats from? Website? | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking!
No I think you need to go and look at the statistics."Not so sure, point out where you found these stats? Also, it’s how people are killed. For example a if white guy waving a gun around gets shot, that’s lawful as he’s got a gun. I’ve seen videos of black guys getting shot an killed and not been armed. | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking!
How sure are you and what’s your source? "Just a quick internet search , copy and pasted : Black people are much more likely to be shot by police than their white peers. An analysis of the available FBI data by Vox's Dara Lind found FBI data. | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking!
No I think you need to go and look at the statistics."Yes, white people are also shot and killed by US police, so are Hispanics. The issue is that the proportion of black (and unarmed) people being shot is higher than any other ethnic group. It's the same with the prison system there, there is a disproportionately high number of ethnic minorities behind bars. The argument is that the system is rigged against them (they are more likely to live in low income areas so unable to afford fancy lawyers who can get them off on a technicality and/or have a lenient sentence). | |||
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"Nike played a certain group of people brilliantly because Why did people burn New Balance? Two years ago? " New Balance became affiliated with the alt-right movement in America after the company's Vice President of public affairs vocally supported Donald Trump's trade policies as being 'a move in the right direction'. After that trumpers voiced support for the brand and it deteriorated from there | |||
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"Nonsense, one group will always seek to dominate another, it’s law of nature. It’s not the same when one group wants the police to stop killing black people .
So the police killing anybody who's not black is ok?
No it’s not ok.. and they aren’t doing it.. they are only killing black men
Pretty sure they kill white people also, although the number of black people killed in comparison is shocking!
No I think you need to go and look at the statistics.
Yes, white people are also shot and killed by US police, so are Hispanics.
The issue is that the proportion of black (and unarmed) people being shot is higher than any other ethnic group.
It's the same with the prison system there, there is a disproportionately high number of ethnic minorities behind bars. The argument is that the system is rigged against them (they are more likely to live in low income areas so unable to afford fancy lawyers who can get them off on a technicality and/or have a lenient sentence)."Spot on! I was just pointing out someone quoted , “only killing black men” | |||
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" The issue is that the proportion of black (and unarmed) people being shot is higher than any other ethnic group. It's the same with the prison system there, there is a disproportionately high number of ethnic minorities behind bars. The argument is that the system is rigged against them (they are more likely to live in low income areas so unable to afford fancy lawyers who can get them off on a technicality and/or have a lenient sentence)." I think you deserve a medal for your patience in explaining this issue! | |||
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" The issue is that the proportion of black (and unarmed) people being shot is higher than any other ethnic group. It's the same with the prison system there, there is a disproportionately high number of ethnic minorities behind bars. The argument is that the system is rigged against them (they are more likely to live in low income areas so unable to afford fancy lawyers who can get them off on a technicality and/or have a lenient sentence). I think you deserve a medal for your patience in explaining this issue!" I knew my OU course in Criminology would come in use one day  | |||
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" The issue is that the proportion of black (and unarmed) people being shot is higher than any other ethnic group. It's the same with the prison system there, there is a disproportionately high number of ethnic minorities behind bars. The argument is that the system is rigged against them (they are more likely to live in low income areas so unable to afford fancy lawyers who can get them off on a technicality and/or have a lenient sentence). I think you deserve a medal for your patience in explaining this issue!" So it’s nothing to do with the fact that blacks proportionally commit the most crime? | |||
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"According to the FBI statistics. 8000 black homicides. 233 were police shootings. 16 of them were unarmed (but that doesn't mean they weren't violently resisting). 64 police officers were killed while on duty (28 of them were black). Of the 16 unarmed black shootings, 10 were shot by black police officers. Black homicides made up 26% of the total despite only making up 13% of the population. Hispanics we're 18% while being 17% of the population. 550 white people were shot and killed by the police, 78 of them unarmed. " So black people make up about 30% of US police shootings despite being only 13% of the population... | |||
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"According to the FBI statistics. 8000 black homicides. 233 were police shootings. 16 of them were unarmed (but that doesn't mean they weren't violently resisting). 64 police officers were killed while on duty (28 of them were black). Of the 16 unarmed black shootings, 10 were shot by black police officers. Black homicides made up 26% of the total despite only making up 13% of the population. Hispanics we're 18% while being 17% of the population. 550 white people were shot and killed by the police, 78 of them unarmed. So black people make up about 30% of US police shootings despite being only 13% of the population... " . That's correct but they also make up 52% of the criminal activity record despite being 13% of the population. There's two stats that are telling 87% of white people are killed by white people while 90% of black people are killed by black people, yes exactly, were not going out at night on mass killing each other through racism!. Donald trump is as complicit as BLM as Nike and this football guy are in inflicting false narratives to divide society | |||
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"Cynical marketing ploy or a company taking a risk for free speech ?! It is very clever.. people who used to hate the players who kneeled during the anthem now hate Nike too and despite people burning Nike’s trainers, Nike isn’t worried about that because their customer is not 40+ white male.. their ideal customers are young people and icons who help shape the culture. In addition to the above Nike has gained £45M media exposure since the campaign started. " Spot on. | |||
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