FabSwingers.com forum: Some good news (trans)

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

He then told me, if I ever have a customer who is transphobic and asks for another fitter to replace me, then Wickes will refuse to deal with them. Refund them and send them elsewhere. They will not pander to prejudice.

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s wonderful news.

Great to get support.

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By *hiterabbit6Couple
over a year ago

Sexytown, Moray

Go girl !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s great, good to know a major retailer has taken a big step forward x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's brilliant..

Its great to have that support xx

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

That’s great to hear Rachael, and a real boost for you to get that support from your employer.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

Awesome to hear

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Bloody brilliant.

The world is changing, slowly, but it's changing nonetheless.

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Fantastic news!

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By *mber DextrousWoman
over a year ago

Devon

That's brilliant, good to know there are companies with principles out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That must feel very reassuring for you.

I’ve always liked Wickes as a company and this is further evidence of their excellence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

And so they should. That’s great

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's incredibly refreshing to hear from a big company like them! Really pleased to see your employer backing you so positively OP

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By *eplicant JoWoman
over a year ago

Sussex countryside

Really great news

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Lovely to hear such positive news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

That's brilliant!

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Blackrock

That’s absolutly fantastic news Rachel bloody awesome xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That must feel very reassuring for you.

I’ve always liked Wickes as a company and this is further evidence of their excellence

Exactly my sentiments.

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Nairobi Kenya and NOT in

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

That’s incredible and the way it should be. No ones race, gender or sexuality has no impact on their ability to do their job.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

Wahooooooooey!

Reading that has made my day x

What a wonderful company you work for, my ex FIL worked for them for years too & I know they were incredibly supportive of the workers in his depot when they had personal issues.

If only all employers were this way x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Great news.. I think he fancies you

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Ilkley

That's bloody excellent Rachael !! xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Great news.. I think he fancies you

Lol. I think probably not xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Great news.. I think he fancies you

Lol. I think probably not xx"

He could be fab-straight

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Good to see companies complying with the law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wahooooooooey!

Reading that has made my day x

What a wonderful company you work for, my ex FIL worked for them for years too & I know they were incredibly supportive of the workers in his depot when they had personal issues.

If only all employers were this way x "

Ain't that the truth?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lovely Thread great news Rach x

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By *iltsguy200Man
over a year ago

Warminster

That’s brilliant news

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

That's great to hear you have full support from your employer,it makes for a happy employee!

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By *eanne n AliCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

That is so fantastic to hear. So pleased for you xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That IS good news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's what I like to hear... good news.

A progressive company looking out for their work force.

You should be proud of your part in this, as without your work and presence this would go unnoticed...

So great news love it.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Great news and positive thinking from them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good to hear a company putting people before profit. Great news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great news x

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Good to hear a company putting people before profit. Great news

I hope I'm reading that wrong.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Great news Racheal!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Good to hear a company putting people before profit. Great news

I hope I'm reading that wrong. "

Lol. I think you were.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I just shed a little tear Rach

That is fucking SUPERB xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Potentially if this ever were to happen, hopefully it never will, then they would be turning away several thousands of pounds of turnover for a principle.

By standing by their principals, employees and sub-contractors they may well get more custom.

It’s a win for everyone.

I’m just so pleased to have their backing after my experience with homebase where things suddenly changed negatively once I came out and led to my leaving.

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

Great news, but nothing that shouldn’t be happening already anyway..

Onwards and upwards

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My latest pic is from Brighton pride.

Everyone else wore pink tee shirts but I’d made my own version of the uniform and was determined to wear that on the float

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a great company!

Hopefully more will take such a positive approach to protecting their employees.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Now that is good news

Shame you are not in Buckinghamshire got two bathrooms need doing.

Said it before OP and I will say it again OP your bravery and attitude are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good to hear a company putting employees before profit. Great news

I hope I'm reading that wrong. "

Turn your phone the other way round.

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

It's fantastic your company is fully supporting you. It's a shame all businesses don't do the same.

Yesterday our local news featured a trans lady who had her bank account frozen because "she sounded like a man" over the telephone! The bank has apologized but can't guarantee it won't happen again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-45406917

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's fantastic your company is fully supporting you. It's a shame all businesses don't do the same.

Yesterday our local news featured a trans lady who had her bank account frozen because "she sounded like a man" over the telephone! The bank has apologized but can't guarantee it won't happen again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-45406917"

I heard about that. It’s kinda understandable if frustrating. I always tell people on the phone that I’m trans if I sense a confused pause.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a great good news story.

Not trying to decry things but I wonder, if like a lot of us here, me for one, whether your bosses actually rather fancy you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This is a great good news story.

Not trying to decry things but I wonder, if like a lot of us here, me for one, whether your bosses actually rather fancy you.

Lol. I seriously doubt that. In shorts and a pink tee shirt I look like crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a great step forwards.

You really suit that colour blue too!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's a great step forwards.

You really suit that colour blue too! "

Lol. Thanks xx

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Is this a Wickes marketing ploy? Because now I want to give them business! Seriously though, that's kind of amazing

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By *amanthajonestsTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

That's how companies should behave. Kudos to them for having principles. And sticking by them. And good luck to you, you Fab-ulous thing! X

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By *ove3funCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Love this

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again ..

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

Your experience with their fit out team has absolutely nothing to do with their policy regarding the trans community.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That gave me goosebumps OP!!

I fucking love that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow fantastic news. It's nice to hear of any company not shying away from such issues and actually standing up for their employees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My latest pic is from Brighton pride.

Everyone else wore pink tee shirts but I’d made my own version of the uniform and was determined to wear that on the float

What pic? Have you hidden it?

Ohhh bloody hell your hotpants. My eyes!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trans people are the worst.

I wouldnt have a trans man or woman do any work in my home.

I always demand my fitters turn up in a Mercedes Vito or nothing at all.

Don't want my neighbours seeing a Transit on my drive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant, we’ve just bought a kitchen through Wickes so it’s really good to hear that they are supporting you.

It’s a shame that it could even be an issue to some people but it must be nice to know you have their backing.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

Super relevant.... Well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

That's a very courageous stance for any company to take,to insist that their customers act decently and legally. Good on Wickes for that. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow now that is testament to their equality policy

Either that or your a top notch installer either way well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great news that Rachel x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is as it should be.

Glad to hear it x

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By *ommyxyzMan
over a year ago

Harlow

That is amazing! Good for you and for Wicks. You must be great and must have great line management.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's great news!

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I'm so proud of what you have acheived, Rachael x

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By *bsolutebeginnersCouple
over a year ago

Planet Ork

Really chuffed for you.

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By *bonynivoryCouple
over a year ago

market harborough

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

Did you understand the OP and the significance of the post at all?

Mrs

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

I'm so pleased for you op x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair play to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

Are you fucking serious ?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

I rest my case regarding you and any trans related thread.

If you truly had a bad experience with your installation it isn’t really anything to do with this thread.

As a Bathroom installer I have had a 100% record of very satisfied customers with Wickes. I’ve been fitting for them for 22 months and completed around 80 installations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again .."

Im not sure why you needed to add this comment to the thread !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again ..

Im not sure why you needed to add this comment to the thread !"

Shall we just leave this now

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wow now that is testament to their equality policy

Either that or your a top notch installer either way well done "

I’d like to think it’s both

There’s been a fair amount of conversation going on within the management and hr behind the scenes that I’m aware of but not party to.

I feel by coming out that I’ve made them take a look at procedure and policy.

They’ve handled it all pretty well so far.

I gave permission for them to make a note on my file that I am trans so when I get a call from the call centre, they expect a voice that isn’t clearly feminine, although I’m working on that.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Wickes are not a good company .... I had them fit my kitchen .....I would never choose them again ..

Super relevant.... Well done

Got Form.

That's all there is to say.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

That’s great!

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Well done and well done Wickes too, we have actually increased our business since coming out and displaying the rainbow flag on our website.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"It's fantastic your company is fully supporting you. It's a shame all businesses don't do the same.

Yesterday our local news featured a trans lady who had her bank account frozen because "she sounded like a man" over the telephone! The bank has apologized but can't guarantee it won't happen again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-45406917"

They were protecting her money. They were not to know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Twoo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A cynic might say that Wickes are simply covering their ass in case they ended up being sued but,at least they have been pro active and taken the initiative by deciding on the correct way to deal with a problem before it even arises.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

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I suddenly need a new kitchen

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A cynic might say that Wickes are simply covering their ass in case they ended up being sued but,at least they have been pro active and taken the initiative by deciding on the correct way to deal with a problem before it even arises."

They might. But then it’d be easy to just offer a different installer if a customer showed a negative reaction at the planning stage. I’d never know.

I do, however , know the people I work with and that’s not the way they think or operate.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Out of interest, has that ever happened to you or anyone you know? (A customer asking for another fitter based on appearance).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’d like to share this with you all;

For those who don’t know me, I am a subcontractor for a diy store, fitting bathrooms

I believe I am also their only trans installer.

Since coming out the store I work for and my installation manager have been awesome.

Yesterday my installation manager visited my latest site for one of his surprise QA check visits.

Once that was complete we chatted and he said he hoped I didn’t mind but he had checked with his boss to see if they took the same stance as him on something;

It’s how I feel it should be it’s great to know they have my back.

Out of interest, has that ever happened to you or anyone you know? (A customer asking for another fitter based on appearance). "

It’s a bit more than appearance, but no, so far I’m not aware of anyone refusing to accept a fitter for sexual orientation or gender. I have heard of fitters having personality clashes and attitude problems.

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