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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " Some assurance? How do you envisage that happening? | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " What makes you think the information displayed would be truthful? I really don’t think it would be worth the field it was typed in to! | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " But what would stop people abusing that ... | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " omg you are into this in a serious way let's all wear tags | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. " Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? " do dogs poo on the carpet | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? " do dogs poo on the carpet | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? do dogs poo on the carpet" Erm mine don’t? lol | |||
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"Yes we are serious about the lifestyle and our and your health. These comments we are seeing sadly show the dismissal of responsibility. " It’s not the dismissal of responsibility. I think it would be dismissal of responsibility to believe anything written on a Fab profile. | |||
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"Yes we are serious about the lifestyle and our and your health. These comments we are seeing sadly show the dismissal of responsibility. " I like to think about 80% of people on fab are serious about their health as well. It would just be pointless, as not everyone would be honest (for obvious reasons). It wouldn’t be a useful tool. | |||
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"Yes we are serious about the lifestyle and our and your health. These comments we are seeing sadly show the dismissal of responsibility. " No dismissal of responsibility just don't see what benefits there are. People can lie about anything on here making it meaningless. I look after my own health and don't rely on others being truthful about theirs. | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " Yes, we understand that, but people lie. It’s as simple as that. | |||
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"Why does everything come down to 'sueing' now days. " To stop people lieing. | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " you can catch STI's even when you take precautions, promiscuity breeds it, so you're advocating only meeting people who are certified God that's gonna limit your options but then maybe you should and take out insurance as well just in case | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " I might test clear one day and pick something up the next. How would I know? I'm not deliberately deceiving but I could be unknowingly misleading. I'd rather not do that thanks. | |||
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"The levels of naivety on this site blow my fucking mind" ^ This. | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " Not quite true - if you say you are free of STIs and KNOW that you aren't, then there may be grounds to take legal action but you have to be able to prove the other person KNEW they were infected and even then it's not quite that simple. | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen? | |||
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"Not only would it not guarantee anyone would be honest OP - but as I'm sure you're aware just because you have been tested the results are only as good as the moment you had that test and don't reflect any sexual activity you have had since that test or any STIs which may be incubating still from activity prior to it. So saying you're clean would be pretty pointless really. Yes it would show a level of responsibility towards getting tested but that brings us back to the point others have made about people being honest about it. Unfortunately the only thing each of us can do is be responsible about our own sexual health and get as good a "feel" about others as possible." Yes true testing to date is still not 100% but it's getting better. HIV test now over the counter. London clinic test immediate results. We love the lifestyle but after many years we have started to question some within the community. And prefer responsible people . | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? do dogs poo on the carpet Erm mine don’t? lol " why coz you've got laminate floors? | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen?" We stay I contact with our meets for a period of time as this is the reasonsible thing to do. | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? do dogs poo on the carpet Erm mine don’t? lol why coz you've got laminate floors? " No cause they’re house trained | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen?" DNA sampling? | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen? We stay I contact with our meets for a period of time as this is the reasonsible thing to do." So do you get contact details before or after playing with someone at a club? | |||
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"The levels of naivety on this site blow my fucking mind" Every fucking time. | |||
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"Not only would it not guarantee anyone would be honest OP - but as I'm sure you're aware just because you have been tested the results are only as good as the moment you had that test and don't reflect any sexual activity you have had since that test or any STIs which may be incubating still from activity prior to it. So saying you're clean would be pretty pointless really. Yes it would show a level of responsibility towards getting tested but that brings us back to the point others have made about people being honest about it. Unfortunately the only thing each of us can do is be responsible about our own sexual health and get as good a "feel" about others as possible. Yes true testing to date is still not 100% but it's getting better. HIV test now over the counter. London clinic test immediate results. We love the lifestyle but after many years we have started to question some within the community. And prefer responsible people . " Over the counter tests and immediate results still prove nothing though. Let's just say I had sex with an HIV infected person and got tested a week after - the results would be clean BUT the HIV could still be incubating inside me and not show on a test - in fact it can take up to three months to show so IF I took the results of any test as 100% accurate (which they wouldn't be) I could go round saying I was clean when I actually wasn't. So back to your OP putting that you're clean on here is pointless unless you can prove you were tested after a period of three months and hadn't had sex in that time or since the test. | |||
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"The levels of naivety on this site blow my fucking mind Every fucking time. " Mine too. Half the time I wonder if things are a wind up then realise they’re not!! | |||
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"Who is really gonna say if they are being treated for an STI? Probably hundreds have been but waited til everything was cleared up. No one will admit it publicly and rightly so. " Exactly. There’s such a stigma around STIs (and rightly so) and people will judge you for catching something, even if it only happened once and you got cleared up straight away. (I’ve never had an STI, but hey, I could be lying!) | |||
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"The levels of naivety on this site blow my fucking mind Every fucking time. Mine too. Half the time I wonder if things are a wind up then realise they’re not!!" oh yes they are | |||
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"Yes we are serious about the lifestyle and our and your health. These comments we are seeing sadly show the dismissal of responsibility. " Or the reality of knowing that not every person would be 100% honest about this. Surely you must have noticed that people can smudge the truth on here, no mention of their partner, shave a few years of their age, add a few inches, photoshop pics to lose a few inches. Why would you expect total honest about their sexual health ? | |||
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"Who is really gonna say if they are being treated for an STI? Probably hundreds have been but waited til everything was cleared up. No one will admit it publicly and rightly so. Exactly. There’s such a stigma around STIs (and rightly so) and people will judge you for catching something, even if it only happened once and you got cleared up straight away. (I’ve never had an STI, but hey, I could be lying!) " I think if you're responsible enough and you have caught something then tell the people you have had sex with. Not a load of strangers who will only judge you. My opinion anyway. | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen? We stay I contact with our meets for a period of time as this is the reasonsible thing to do. So do you get contact details before or after playing with someone at a club? " We no longer jump into a club and start playing with unknowns. So yes we know who we are playing with. We are not fans of antibiotics. | |||
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"Yes we are serious about the lifestyle and our and your health. These comments we are seeing sadly show the dismissal of responsibility. " That's rubbish, but are you saying that everyone registered on this site will tell the truth 100% all the time??? If you believe this then I believe you're a little bit deluded. | |||
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"Who is really gonna say if they are being treated for an STI? Probably hundreds have been but waited til everything was cleared up. No one will admit it publicly and rightly so. Exactly. There’s such a stigma around STIs (and rightly so) and people will judge you for catching something, even if it only happened once and you got cleared up straight away. (I’ve never had an STI, but hey, I could be lying!) I think if you're responsible enough and you have caught something then tell the people you have had sex with. Not a load of strangers who will only judge you. My opinion anyway. " I agree x | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. Do you do a full ID check too? How do you plan on tracking the person down if the worst should happen? We stay I contact with our meets for a period of time as this is the reasonsible thing to do. So do you get contact details before or after playing with someone at a club? We no longer jump into a club and start playing with unknowns. So yes we know who we are playing with. We are not fans of antibiotics. " but do you know who else they are playing with. Etc etc. | |||
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"Who is really gonna say if they are being treated for an STI? Probably hundreds have been but waited til everything was cleared up. No one will admit it publicly and rightly so. Exactly. There’s such a stigma around STIs (and rightly so) and people will judge you for catching something, even if it only happened once and you got cleared up straight away. (I’ve never had an STI, but hey, I could be lying!) I think if you're responsible enough and you have caught something then tell the people you have had sex with. Not a load of strangers who will only judge you. My opinion anyway. I agree x" | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. " how would you prove it though. My clinics all now only contact you if you have something.. not to say your all clear. | |||
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"I told someone that I have had a hysterectomy the other week. His response was 'Woohoo! No condoms'!! To which I said 'Eh, wha? Err why? What difference does having no womb make'? He said cause I wouldn't get pregnant. My response? I said 'That is the last of my concerns'! Some people really do just have no idea about sexual health " It's shocking. | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " I don’t think anybody is giggling about STIs, the opposite in fact | |||
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"I told someone that I have had a hysterectomy the other week. His response was 'Woohoo! No condoms'!! To which I said 'Eh, wha? Err why? What difference does having no womb make'? He said cause I wouldn't get pregnant. My response? I said 'That is the last of my concerns'! Some people really do just have no idea about sexual health It's shocking. " | |||
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"It's Russian roulette. " In a nutshell... thank you. | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " I don't see that there has been any backlash towards you. People have given their opinion on the point you posed and it seems because not everyone has agreed with what you are saying you have taken the hump. Whenever you post in these forums you will get all extremes in responses and often they will piss you off but you have to learn to ignore them ... Otherwise the experience becomes unpleasant. You're entitled to your views/ideas but so is everyone else ... Whether you agree with them or not x | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " I don't think there's been a backlash - more people pointing out the pointlessness of what you suggested and the reasons why it's pointless. You're right on one thing though - STIs should not be a hidden discussion, there's an awful lot of naivety around them and how they can be contracted on this site as some of the examples given on this thread have shown. Unfortunately though for the reasons already given a filter on clean testing wouldn't be at all useful because it would prove nothing, even if everyone told the truth about their sexual health. As I said earlier ALL you can do is look after your own sexual health and be as reasonably sure about how seriously others take theirs as you can before making an informed decision about whether to play with them or not. | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. " We aren't objecting to getting tested. Just don't see the point of displaying it on a profile. That is pointless in my opinion. Doesn't mean I don't have discussions about sexual health with those I meet. | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. We aren't objecting to getting tested. Just don't see the point of displaying it on a profile. That is pointless in my opinion. Doesn't mean I don't have discussions about sexual health with those I meet. " | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small I don't think there's been a backlash - more people pointing out the pointlessness of what you suggested and the reasons why it's pointless. You're right on one thing though - STIs should not be a hidden discussion, there's an awful lot of naivety around them and how they can be contracted on this site as some of the examples given on this thread have shown. Unfortunately though for the reasons already given a filter on clean testing wouldn't be at all useful because it would prove nothing, even if everyone told the truth about their sexual health. As I said earlier ALL you can do is look after your own sexual health and be as reasonably sure about how seriously others take theirs as you can before making an informed decision about whether to play with them or not." | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. " As the poster said further up though - an MOT is only good at the moment it's sat in the test centre before you drive it away - same goes for STI testing and even then it won't reflect STIs that's are still incubating. So yes everyone should be responsible about their sexual health and get regularly tested but as I pointed out it's only accurate at the moment you have the test taken. So saying you're 100% clean holds no validity unless you can prove you've not had sex for 3 months prior to your test or since it. | |||
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"As I said earlier ALL you can do is look after your own sexual health and be as reasonably sure about how seriously others take theirs as you can before making an informed decision about whether to play with them or not." Plus one... that's how I like to roll. Vet partner, test before sex, USE PROTECTION, test after sex... have outrageously dirty fun knowing you've minimised the risks as far as humanly and practically possible. | |||
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"Well just from the responses on here we have filtered who we would and who we would not and that is before looking at age ,size etc. Goes to show it's not all about looks. Have fun...stay safe ...thank you for your input. Remember get that MOT! " You’re welcome! x | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " Perhaps a link to local STI clinics would be useful. On our profiles we put our postcode so maybe the site could use that to locate local info. That might encourage/ remind people to get tested. | |||
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"Well just from the responses on here we have filtered who we would and who we would not and that is before looking at age ,size etc. Goes to show it's not all about looks. Have fun...stay safe ...thank you for your input. Remember get that MOT! " I don't think anyone that has responded has said they DON'T get tested or take their sexual health seriously - just pointed out the pointlessness of what you suggested about having it as a profile tick box. I get tested every three months without fail even if I'd be not been overly active and will continue to do so as long as I am part of this lifestyle | |||
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"Well just from the responses on here we have filtered who we would and who we would not and that is before looking at age ,size etc. Goes to show it's not all about looks. Have fun...stay safe ...thank you for your input. Remember say you got that MOT! " Fify | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small Perhaps a link to local STI clinics would be useful. On our profiles we put our postcode so maybe the site could use that to locate local info. That might encourage/ remind people to get tested. " It could be useful to some but that’s only the ones that want to get tested people can still obviously choose not too and the ones that use it are the ones most likely taking the responsibility to already do it for themselves anyway | |||
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"If they lie about height what makes you think they would be honest about the clap" | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. " and some will know someone that can get a car through its mot without actually being tested. Like the car I brought with full test many years ago. Took it for a service and it wouldn't even pass a mot. So rang vosa but most people would have been none the wiser. I don't worry about others results as I have learnt that people on here Lie a lot. I get myself tested... currently been on monthly tests due to finding out the ex had been meeting behind my back etc. And didn't know what risks he had introduced. Normally I am 6 to 8 weeks when active. | |||
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"Why does everything come down to 'sueing' now days. To stop people lieing." You think people would stop lying just so they don’t get sued, bless you | |||
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"Its easy isn't it? Ask which G.U.M. clinic do you use? When they ask what you're talking about, block em! Unless they're hot, Then tell them what it is and fuck'em. " I've never been to a GUM clinic. | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small Perhaps a link to local STI clinics would be useful. On our profiles we put our postcode so maybe the site could use that to locate local info. That might encourage/ remind people to get tested. It could be useful to some but that’s only the ones that want to get tested people can still obviously choose not too and the ones that use it are the ones most likely taking the responsibility to already do it for themselves anyway " Fair point. | |||
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"Its easy isn't it? Ask which G.U.M. clinic do you use? When they ask what you're talking about, block em! Unless they're hot, Then tell them what it is and fuck'em. I've never been to a GUM clinic. " But you still know what one is. So point proved. | |||
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"If they lie about anything why would you then play????? We no longer do quickies for that reason. Omg how many times has the guy been super cute and buff only to reveal a tiny dick...which is meant to be average!!!! We learnt by mistakes. As people have said...it's not hard to determine if people have knowledge of status. Yes it does not guarantee anything but it's another option to add to you filter of who you would. If you come to us saying you never been tested yet have 30 veris...Well you ain't coming near. Yes of course you can lie but it's not hard to filter them. The site has filters for that reason So We can block the fakes. " I think you've made you're point. It's just you're a bit naive. | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " I don’t see any backlash, I see it the same as the others, it would be a pointless exercise, just take care of your own sexual health and others will do the same | |||
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"If they lie about anything why would you then play????? We no longer do quickies for that reason. Omg how many times has the guy been super cute and buff only to reveal a tiny dick...which is meant to be average!!!! We learnt by mistakes. As people have said...it's not hard to determine if people have knowledge of status. Yes it does not guarantee anything but it's another option to add to you filter of who you would. If you come to us saying you never been tested yet have 30 veris...Well you ain't coming near. Yes of course you can lie but it's not hard to filter them. The site has filters for that reason So We can block the fakes. " I got a clear test result yesterday. | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. Do heterosexuals assume they are immune? " Only if there IQ is in the single figures and they time travelled here from the 80's | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " You haven't received a backlash. Just a bunch of people pointing out the flaws in your idea. Now if you can figure out how to overcome problems... | |||
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"Wow ok so it was a thought as other sites have this option and we put in the forum for discussion. Did not expect such an backlash on it and had hoped for some support but that's cool each to their own. STIs should not be a hidden discussion we are not teenagers giggling in the playground. Agree people will lie as they do with height,size ,age etc . So why have these options then? Oh yeah so we can filter people who possibly match us. We all know an average cock is small " You’re still missing the point, aren’t you! | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? " ...and continuing to miss the point. | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? " So how do these sites prove that the person declaring their sexual health is clean is being truthful? | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? ...and continuing to miss the point. " Please share your knowledge | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? So how do these sites prove that the person declaring their sexual health is clean is being truthful?" And how much would this process cost to implement and moderate for a site strives to remain to be free to use? | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? ...and continuing to miss the point. Please share your knowledge " It's not so much knowledge as pointing out that just because the function is there on those sites doesn't mean people will answer truthfully - the same would apply if it existed here. The only way to KNOW 100% you are STI free is to stick to a completely monogamous relationship. Otherwise you can only take care of your own sexual health by getting tested regularly and if you choose to do so talking openly to those that you meet to get a level of certainty that they take their sexual health as seriously as you do. Having a field that says you were tested is just open to abuse and lies. | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? ...and continuing to miss the point. Please share your knowledge It's not so much knowledge as pointing out that just because the function is there on those sites doesn't mean people will answer truthfully - the same would apply if it existed here. The only way to KNOW 100% you are STI free is to stick to a completely monogamous relationship. Otherwise you can only take care of your own sexual health by getting tested regularly and if you choose to do so talking openly to those that you meet to get a level of certainty that they take their sexual health as seriously as you do. Having a field that says you were tested is just open to abuse and lies." Yes fully agree. But just from this forum post it has shown some interesting results and whilst many are responsible it's clear many are not. But this is mainly down to knowledge levels rather than a wish to deceive . | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. " You've come full circle and answered your own question. Some bums will lie. Simple as. | |||
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"I wouldn't just put my trust something that someone wrote on their profile, I've met too many 6' midgets to believe anything I've read! " Thats made me laugh thanks x | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. You've come full circle and answered your own question. Some bums will lie. Simple as. " If one person reading this has thought ....oh...maybe I should get tested then happy days. It's not being sanctimonious.Speak to people with HIV it's far from a subject to be dismissed. And if people think an MOT is the green light never to check your car all year long till the next test...please line up in the filter that says wrong... | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? ...and continuing to miss the point. Please share your knowledge It's not so much knowledge as pointing out that just because the function is there on those sites doesn't mean people will answer truthfully - the same would apply if it existed here. The only way to KNOW 100% you are STI free is to stick to a completely monogamous relationship. Otherwise you can only take care of your own sexual health by getting tested regularly and if you choose to do so talking openly to those that you meet to get a level of certainty that they take their sexual health as seriously as you do. Having a field that says you were tested is just open to abuse and lies. Yes fully agree. But just from this forum post it has shown some interesting results and whilst many are responsible it's clear many are not. But this is mainly down to knowledge levels rather than a wish to deceive . " Not sure where you get that impression from TBH. | |||
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"At last some sensible people. Ok let's put it another way . Would you feel safer with a car having an MOT or for everyone to be driving around without? Of course some bums will lie about an MOT as they do now. You've come full circle and answered your own question. Some bums will lie. Simple as. If one person reading this has thought ....oh...maybe I should get tested then happy days. It's not being sanctimonious.Speak to people with HIV it's far from a subject to be dismissed. And if people think an MOT is the green light never to check your car all year long till the next test...please line up in the filter that says wrong..." If those people hadnt thought to be tested before this thread, I doubt they've seen much to change their mind here. But nice try anyway | |||
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"GRINDR has the option. They figured it out. Many gay hook up sites do. Are we any different? ...and continuing to miss the point. Please share your knowledge " It’s been pointed out to you over and over again but as the old saying goes, ‘there’s none so blind as those who will not see’ (I paraphrased just a little bit). | |||
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"We are not suggesting you say hey I have an STI...no We are saying hey on my last test I was clear. It would show you at least know. If you play whilst having an STI well then please don't. People who are HIV positive have legal obligations if they know. " There's a Sydney University warning on loads of profiles. People copy and paste it because they think it's real. They would just copy and paste "clear test results". | |||
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"I once added a screen shot of a recent check up I had. It got deleted. " Exactly the same as me when I did | |||
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"I once added a screen shot of a recent check up I had. It got deleted. Exactly the same as me when I did " Should have put your cock on it. | |||
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"Ok let's look at it another way. Someone quoted about it being a precaution like condoms. Condoms also are not 100% protection yet we wear them to minimise the risk. Knowing someone has been tested clean does not protect you just minimises the risk. Some people like to play without condoms. Some people see that as a risk to them. Of course people will lie but they are normally the ones that don't show up. If you are playing in a club with unknowns then obviously the risk increases. It's your choice . Your life But our health . Stay safe as possible. Have fun . Please. " Now you’re making an entirely different point. Choosing to get tested is choice and putting test results on display means absolutely nothing and tells you nothing about the person doing it. Nothing. | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. " No problem. | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. " Do you trust people that say "I am tested" on other sites? How would that affect your interaction with them? Is it so you feel safer? Genuine question. | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. " You've only been on the site a week, maybe after being here 6-7 months you'll see why the majority say that. | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. Do you trust people that say "I am tested" on other sites? How would that affect your interaction with them? Is it so you feel safer? Genuine question. " No of course not however it is an added filter to help view people. Not to mention may encourage people to get tested. A lot of rocks thrown by members about this but at the end of the day it's about highlighting the need to get tested rather than if it's true or not. | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. Do you trust people that say "I am tested" on other sites? How would that affect your interaction with them? Is it so you feel safer? Genuine question. No of course not however it is an added filter to help view people. Not to mention may encourage people to get tested. A lot of rocks thrown by members about this but at the end of the day it's about highlighting the need to get tested rather than if it's true or not. " I do agree with you about it raising awareness. That's why I wondered if a link to local STI clinics might work. Don't take the negativity to your idea personally, it's not aimed at you. It's aimed at the people that would just lie about their results. x | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. You've only been on the site a week, maybe after being here 6-7 months you'll see why the majority say that. " we have been in the lifestyle for over 10 years..membership of this site is not a history of our life....thank god. It is obvious there are differing opinions which is fine... | |||
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"Ok so looking at feedback it is the majority vote that putting any form of "I am tested" as other well established sites do is not for those on Fab. Thanks for your input today Have a good day. You've only been on the site a week, maybe after being here 6-7 months you'll see why the majority say that. we have been in the lifestyle for over 10 years..membership of this site is not a history of our life....thank god. It is obvious there are differing opinions which is fine... " So all things being equal, you would fuck someone that has displayed their test results over someone that hasn't? | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " How would you know if people were lying or not ? | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? How would you know if people were lying or not ?" You wouldn’t | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? " Being absolutely honest here OP the mistake you made was with your first sentence - which is what people, myself included, have zeroed in on and responded to - and the answer to THAT question is a resounding it wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference because people would lie and as a result you couldn't trust it totally as a filter on its own. That's not a criticism of you, just an observation. As for your other points - I agree that it is shocking how little knowledge some have about STIs and how they are contracted - for example, an oft rolled out comment on threads about STIs is "I always wear a condom therefore I don't need to get tested" which shows incredible naivety. That said, whenever I go to the clinic I always find the nurses there are impressed not only by my knowledge but also that of other fellow swingers, and actually appreciate that we're being responsible - so although *some* are naive there are a lot who do take their sexual health seriously and get regularly tested etc. Swingers are classified high risk because of the potential for multiple partners but whilst that does indeed increase the risk, I'm not sure that the actual number of cases of STIs in the swinging community is as high as the risk would suggest - and that's because a lot of people do take their sexual health seriously. Of course any form of education or heightening awareness is a good thing, even through threads like this and perhaps the site should consider having a page with links to relevant sites that provide information about sexual health. I know the club I have been to most (VA) offers testing on some nights and always promotes safe sex, as do many other clubs. Ultimately though you're right we should all take responsibility not only for our own sexual health but promoting awareness of it in others where appropriate. | |||
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"Only got to see how many single (but married ) and straight (but bi) guY's and gals on here to realise there's a lot of fibbers on here. " Absoflippinglutely | |||
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"Yes but there is a almost grey legal reason as you find in certain hook up sites. If you say you are free of and the turns out you infect someone with a life changing condition there are grounds to sue. " I'll stick with the assumption the other person is a risk and take the appropriate measures to protect myself. No amount of money will make up for the loss of health. | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? How would you know if people were lying or not ?" Awaiting an answer .... guess iv a long wait | |||
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"Many people do put it on their profile" Yes, they write they are 'clean' Always amuses me | |||
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"I will bet everyone £ 100 that no single male profile will say they currently have a sti or is being treated for sti....." Not expecting it to but clean might be as start. | |||
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"I will bet everyone £ 100 that no single male profile will say they currently have a sti or is being treated for sti..... Not expecting it to but clean might be as start. " A start to what, exactly? They have proved they can spell 'clean'? Honestly, for experienced swingers, you are incredibly naive. | |||
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"I will bet everyone £ 100 that no single male profile will say they currently have a sti or is being treated for sti..... Not expecting it to but clean might be as start. A start to what, exactly? They have proved they can spell 'clean'? Honestly, for experienced swingers, you are incredibly naive." | |||
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"It will encourage people to stop and think hopefully. We are checked and are aware of our status. We don't play with people that have no knowledge of there status and or don't bother even checking. The gay community operates with care to some degree or at least the option is there to. Just because you are hetro does not make you immune. " You are only aware of what your status WAS at the point you were tested, and you get the results afyer a delay by which point they are out of date Makes more sense for people just to use condoms, get themselves checked regularly and take responsibility for their own sexual health instead of relying on a box on a profile in which someone can lie Also when people say swingers are most at risk of std’s i honestly think in the age of tinder that wont be the case for long ... the only people who have assumed there will be sex with me without condoms (they were wrong) were people i never met anywhere near this scene ... generally swingers are better educated and aware about stds whereas “general shaggers” are alot more niaive | |||
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"I will bet everyone £ 100 that no single male profile will say they currently have a sti or is being treated for sti..... Not expecting it to but clean might be as start. A start to what, exactly? They have proved they can spell 'clean'? Honestly, for experienced swingers, you are incredibly naive." | |||
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"Should these sites carry an option to display your sexual health status as other hook up sites do? We are always shocked at the lack of knowledge out there in the community. Swingers are amongst some of the highest groups to be at risk from STI. Should we not be taking more responsibility so we can play with some assurance? How would you know if people were lying or not ?" They blink a lot | |||
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