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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

US mum's anguish over nine-year-old son's suicide

The mother of a US nine-year-old, who she says killed himself after enduring homophobic bullying

She said her son had been proud to tell people he was gay when he returned to school.

Some fellow pupils told him to kill himself.

While this is horrible...

Please explain to me why a nine year old should be thinking about his sexuality?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

were you ever 9 years old?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"were you ever 9 years old?"

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Terrible thing thats happened. However, i know people know from a very early age that they are someone but to know your own sexuality from a very early age? If he was so open about it to his mother why didnt she explain everything to him?. By the way i think this thread has to seperate topics. The suicide and the being gay.

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

A lot of people know their sexuality from a young age, the reason you hear more about it now is because it’s *slowly* becoming more acceptable to be open.

I pride myself in the fact I teach my children not to be intolerant towards other people and I know they’ll be fine young men when they grow up, and I know that if any of their friends are being bullied they’re the first ones to stand up for them

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Terrible thing thats happened. However, i know people know from a very early age that they are someone but to know your own sexuality from a very early age? If he was so open about it to his mother why didnt she explain everything to him?. By the way i think this thread has to seperate topics. The suicide and the being gay.

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling"

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My 9 year old wouldn’t know what gay meant to be honest.

That’s a sad story though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's tragic that a child would feel suicide is a solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kids can be so cruel, such a shame that at 9 years old he can be bullied to such an extent that committing suicide was his only way out. X

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

How did the child committ suicide op?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As awful as this is I think he just heard the word and used it in the playground maybe. My child is 9 and wouldn’t know what suicide is either. I find this hard to believe that it’s even about sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

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By *umpsimusMan
over a year ago

Camberley

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?"

A dreadfully sad story,and yes kids are cruel, but for my two penny worth I'm in full agreement with the above.

Kids are forced to grow up way to fast.

9 year olds should be out kicking balls, making camps, terrorising the neighbourhood by being kids.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Such a sad story. Children are exposed to so much from such a young age and they’re not really equipped to deal with a lot of it. I don’t know the full story here but the death of a child is just tragic.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"As awful as this is I think he just heard the word and used it in the playground maybe. My child is 9 and wouldn’t know what suicide is either. I find this hard to believe that it’s even about sexuality. "
i made my first suicide attempt at 10. Laughable now but i put my head down the toilet and flushed the chain thinking id die. Thats why i would be interested in how he committed suicide. How he was in a position to do it

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? If any of my kids came to me at that age and told me how they felt guess what? As a parent I would support them cause that’s my role as a parent is to support and nurture my children "
they shouldnt feel suppressed but i dont think a child should be brought up havibg their sexually as something so important at 9 years old

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

"His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?"

Maybe ask over on fab guys when they discovered their sexuality?

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What has happening with children. Are they growing up to fast or are some parents making them grow up to fast ? At 9 years old i did not know anything about sex or sexuality. Girls were horrid. All i wanted to fo is ride my bike and play football. Its a tragic story. Cant kids just be kids.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As awful as this is I think he just heard the word and used it in the playground maybe. My child is 9 and wouldn’t know what suicide is either. I find this hard to believe that it’s even about sexuality. i made my first suicide attempt at 10. Laughable now but i put my head down the toilet and flushed the chain thinking id die. Thats why i would be interested in how he committed suicide. How he was in a position to do it"

Tablets maybe? Drank bleach? Maybe jumped from a window? Finger in a plug socket?

I wouldn't have had a clue either at that age tbh.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

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hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can"

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can"
i always brought my son up to be non judgemental and it worked. However, i do not think he would of had the capacity to sit with his friends talking honestly and openly about there sexuality at 9 years of age. Even less equiped to have discussed suicidal tendancies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that? "

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age.

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

You weren't. He was. Show some compassion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn’t be thinking about sexuality at all at age 9. His parents have clearly missed something here but are paying the ultimate price now. Very sad indeed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What has happening with children. Are they growing up to fast or are some parents making them grow up to fast ? At 9 years old i did not know anything about sex or sexuality. Girls were horrid. All i wanted to fo is ride my bike and play football. Its a tragic story. Cant kids just be kids."

I think it's all about access to information as well as neglectful parenting.

When kids are involved, it's always the adults fault.

Saying that, my heart bleeds for the mother. She'll blame herself for the rest of her life.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age."

Did you not fancy girls??

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"were you ever 9 years old?"
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I'm in the mid childhood crises of 7 at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a very sad story. Kids are exposed to so much about sexuality and the adult world at a much earlier age than even just 20 years ago.

It's also quite sad as in some ways it's a lost innocence. I can quite understand the confusion of a nine year old faced with questions about who they are but not yet with the maturity to handle it.

As adults and parents we have a responsibility to let kids have their childhood and not turn them into mini-adults. And we must stamp out bullying at whatever stage of life it happens.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

You weren't. He was. Show some compassion."

I don't appreciate your comment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age.

Did you not fancy girls??"

No, I fancied running about and having fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age.

Did you not fancy girls??"

At 9 years old ? No ! At that age girls were horrid creatures. I knew nothing about sexuality.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

This is so sad. I don't have any answers, only some thoughts which may or may not have an approximation to facts..

Society has become vastly more sexualized in the last 10-20 years, with positive, openly 'out' figured demonstrating many genders/relationships, far more so than anything my generation witnessed. This is prevalent in adverts, tv, internet.

This oversexualisation causes this poor child (and countless others) to develop at a faster rate than previous relationships.

Openness with teachers and parents about developing feelings with those of the same sex helps solidify any notions.

I am not for one second saying that being open with any child is a bad thing, but combined with the first 2 points could combine to the point where a child could be way ahead of their peers with self realisation of their sexual identity.

Unfortunately people are cruel to those who are different, and many children are either not equipped to handle this kind of difference or influenced by parents (portions of America are still incredibly homophobic and racist)

Even though this child seemed equipped enough to deal with their identity they were obviously not equipped to deal with the cruelty of others.

I would also be asking questions of the school as to how they dealt with the situation of an openly gay child.

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally! "

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended "

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age.

Did you not fancy girls??

At 9 years old ? No ! At that age girls were horrid creatures. I knew nothing about sexuality."

Ok but can you not accept that some boys and girls of 9 do think about their identity???

..and perhaps it's more intense if you fancy some one of the same sex.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that? "

Exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"US mum's anguish over nine-year-old son's suicide

The mother of a US nine-year-old, who she says killed himself after enduring homophobic bullying

She said her son had been proud to tell people he was gay when he returned to school.

Some fellow pupils told him to kill himself.

While this is horrible...

Please explain to me why a nine year old should be thinking about his sexuality?

Of all the things I've thought about this tragic story, the though of why a nine year old was considering their sexuslity hadn't even crossed my mind

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"were you ever 9 years old?

I wasn't considering my sexuality at 9...

I couldn't even remember my P.E shorts nevermind thinking about what gender I prefered.

hmmm I bet if you were gay, you would have been thinking about it..Can you not see that?

why would being gay at 9 years old make you any different from being straight at 9 ? i never thought about hetrosexual sex at that age.

Did you not fancy girls??

At 9 years old ? No ! At that age girls were horrid creatures. I knew nothing about sexuality.

Ok but can you not accept that some boys and girls of 9 do think about their identity???

..and perhaps it's more intense if you fancy some one of the same sex."
i can i developec sexually at an early age ( not 9) what i dont understand is why it would be so important and take presidance over other things they find enjoyable at that age

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9 "

I get that, I’ve always said if mine are old enough to ask they’re old enough to know enough and explained at a level they’ll understand, I know with mine I’ll explain it to them, they’ll have a few questions and then be like “oh okay then” and carry on playing etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9 "

I think you just deal with these questions as they arise in conversation with a child. Children pick up ideas from school, social media and elsewhere.

It's not about being ignorant as such as more about the readiness of the child. Each child is different. But it's great that children of all ages are taught tolerance and to face down bullying. Those lessons will apply to all new situations, including sexuality when a child develops awareness of that.

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9

I think you just deal with these questions as they arise in conversation with a child. Children pick up ideas from school, social media and elsewhere.

Unfortunately there are some parents that’ll brush their kids off or bring them up with the same views as them, which is their right doesn’t mean we’ll all agree after all we would be boring if we had the same views

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9

Oh yes definitely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

Why should they feel suppressed? because a 9 year old killed himself maybe?

Other 9 year old don't understand so you can't blame them.

That’s why I don’t bring my kids up to be ignorant etc so that way if any of their friends feel like this they can help them in whatever way they can

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

Oh I didn’t mean anyone on this thread at all sorry if I offended

No you didn’t. I’m not easily offended. I just don’t think it’s bringing them up ignorant not explaining these things to them at 9

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

Some of the ignorance here is fascinating. Why does everyone seem so shocked that a 9 year old knew he was gay? Most children are aware of who they are attracted to at that age. You're speaking as if he was thinking in a sexually active manner, I'm pretty certain the child just realised that he was attracted to boys and not girls which at that age is completely normal. I'd say by 9-10 most kids are aware if they fancy girls or not, this is only a year or two before you go to secondary school. As others have said as well, all people are different and just because you wasn't aware or even thinking about other sexes doesn't make that the norm. Even in a more sexually active way, kids can progress at many different ages and that has no relevance to society or parenting. I know for a fact I was already masturbating at that ages and it had absolutely nothing to do with parenting or 'the internet's as I grew up without it. Different people develop at different times, both emotionally and sexually. I guarantee if this was flipped and the kid had came out as straight, kissed another little girl and got bullied for it, none of you would even remotely bring up that the kid shouldn't be feeling attraction at that age

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Being drove to commit suicide at 9 years of age is extremely sad and appauling

His sexuality later in life doesn't matter.

So sorry to disagree but i have too.

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?

A dreadfully sad story,and yes kids are cruel, but for my two penny worth I'm in full agreement with the above.

Kids are forced to grow up way to fast.

9 year olds should be out kicking balls, making camps, terrorising the neighbourhood by being kids."

Children should be who they want to be, doing what they want to do, not what you want to.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Some of the ignorance here is fascinating. Why does everyone seem so shocked that a 9 year old knew he was gay? Most children are aware of who they are attracted to at that age. You're speaking as if he was thinking in a sexually active manner, I'm pretty certain the child just realised that he was attracted to boys and not girls which at that age is completely normal. I'd say by 9-10 most kids are aware if they fancy girls or not, this is only a year or two before you go to secondary school. As others have said as well, all people are different and just because you wasn't aware or even thinking about other sexes doesn't make that the norm. Even in a more sexually active way, kids can progress at many different ages and that has no relevance to society or parenting. I know for a fact I was already masturbating at that ages and it had absolutely nothing to do with parenting or 'the internet's as I grew up without it. Different people develop at different times, both emotionally and sexually. I guarantee if this was flipped and the kid had came out as straight, kissed another little girl and got bullied for it, none of you would even remotely bring up that the kid shouldn't be feeling attraction at that age"

Thank you for some reasoning..I was getting quite angry about some of the comments.

I think we have come a long way (we have)but then a discussion like this makes me feel little has changed...

Thanks for the posting op,I believe some maybe changing views because of it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?"

Do you not remember being at primary school and people having 'boyfriends/girlfriends', there is attraction there and whilst children may not always be able to put words to feelings it doesn't stop that attraction being there. If you had a child come home from primary school and said they had a boyfriend/girlfriend, would you react at all? I'd assume most wouldn't bat an eyelid, but if they came back and said they was with someone of the same gender, would the reaction be the same?

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?

That's so true, my oldest and his friends are all 7 and 8, and even they talk about having girlfriends.

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‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?

My memory is perfectly in tact thank you. Attraction at that age is purely plutonic, more an acceptance that boys and girls aren’t horrid creatures to one another and they can in fact play together nicely. It’s certainly not a sexual attraction and your suggesting it might be is quite frankly abhorrent. As for being attracted at the age of 9 to the same sex, yes, everyone is, it’s what friendship is all about. Sexual attraction is another thing altogether.

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By *horecruxCouple
over a year ago

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So are we upset he killed himself or weather it was really a homophobic issue seeing as he was 9

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over a year ago

"So are we upset he killed himself or weather it was really a homophobic issue seeing as he was 9

It’s very sad. Problem is many children commit suicide and merely being a bleeding heart for them all won’t lessen the problem. The alleged issue here is his sexuality, and, the underlying reason for why he killed himself. That’s where the problem is and that’s the debate.

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over a year ago

My sister is gay and she confided in me at about age 11 I think. My daughter is 10 and knows what gay means because she has a gay aunt and because we've discussed different types of people. I'm shocked that people think kids that age wouldn't know what gay was!

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"So are we upset he killed himself or weather it was really a homophobic issue seeing as he was 9

I would like to think it's few children rather than many although I don't know the stats

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By *horecruxCouple
over a year ago

SE4

"So are we upset he killed himself or weather it was really a homophobic issue seeing as he was 9

I'd of said bullying is the underlying issue ???

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

A 9 year old should never be considering their sexuality fullstop.

WTF are people doing with their kids?"

Do you have kids?

Sexual exploration is part of growing up. Doctors and nurses was the common excuse from kids who wanted to see someone's pants. As long as no adults intervene sexually and they are taught respect and bodily autonomy its normal healthy and fine.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

There's something fishy about this story, but since it hits all the politically correct messages of the day, I guess we won't look at it objectively.

Total bullshit to say "he was forced to commit suicide". He was bullied for 4 days, he had a bad week ffs. I'd wager every school has a kid who endures more than that for a whole host of reasons.

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally! "

If they ask though.... What woukd you say?

Non hetero

"sometimes ladies like ladies and want to marry them, sometimes men like men and want to be together kiddo. All people are different, it stops the world from being boring" is how I explained lgbt+ to my son age six when he asked me.

Masturbation

"touching yourself is ok but it's because your body belongs to you. You shouldn't touch other people where their underwear covers because its private. Also nobody has the right to touch your underwear zone either ok?"

Suicide (i had to explain to my sons aged 4 and 8 because a family friend took their life)

" some people get so sad they want to not be here anymore and they make their body stop working. It's a shame because they might feel better the next day but they can't take it back. If you ever feel really sad you can always talk to me"

Kids can understand. Explaining gives them the language to describe feelings and the ability to reason and understand but also the ability to recognise other peoples feelings too.

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I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

If they ask though.... What woukd you say?

Non hetero

Masturbation

Suicide (i had to explain to my sons aged 4 and 8 because a family friend took their life)

Kids can understand. Explaining gives them the language to describe feelings and the ability to reason and understand but also the ability to recognise other peoples feelings too. "

Yes of course I’d explain! She has a friend who’s dad sometimes dresses as a woman and has asked a few questions.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Probably the only fact is the poor kid is dead.

Did he post something on whatever social media 9 yr olds use?

Or is this all the mother’s account?

It may be true, there may be more, we just do not know what else, if anything, was happening.

Poor soul, every kid deserves a chance to flourish as an adult.

We have.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

If they ask though.... What woukd you say?

Non hetero

Masturbation

Suicide (i had to explain to my sons aged 4 and 8 because a family friend took their life)

Kids can understand. Explaining gives them the language to describe feelings and the ability to reason and understand but also the ability to recognise other peoples feelings too. "

I had this question brought up when watching a program with my daughter. She asked why the 2 ladies suddenly started kissing (No idea this was in the plot). All I replied was that they loved each other. She was happy with that.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Probably the only fact is the poor kid is dead.

Did he post something on whatever social media 9 yr olds use?

Or is this all the mother’s account?

It may be true, there may be more, we just do not know what else, if anything, was happening.

Poor soul, every kid deserves a chance to flourish as an adult.

We have.

??"

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The evidence that he was bullied for being gay comes from his 14 year old sister who presumably doesn't attend the same school. She did not know about any homophobic bullying before the suicide but says other kids told her it happened.

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

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over a year ago

I don’t bring my children up ignorant! But I think 9 years old is too young to be trying to explain what suicide and homosexuality is personally!

If they ask though.... What woukd you say?

Non hetero

Masturbation

Suicide (i had to explain to my sons aged 4 and 8 because a family friend took their life)

Kids can understand. Explaining gives them the language to describe feelings and the ability to reason and understand but also the ability to recognise other peoples feelings too.

Had an awful experience with our daughter when we were at a petrol station paying for fuel once upon a time. The person taking the money was TV/TS (let’s not get into the differences please as we don’t know what they were, and it’s irrelevant for the purpose of this debate) our daughter was deeply distressed as the person was a big old unit and clealry looked like a bloke. Saturday afternoon, Summer and very busy. We tried to explain to her but at age 4, it was quite difficult. Although we’re all about acceptance these days, we do think that adults should also be sensitive towards the needs of young children too, especially when in public places.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Probably the only fact is the poor kid is dead.

Did he post something on whatever social media 9 yr olds use?

Or is this all the mother’s account?

It may be true, there may be more, we just do not know what else, if anything, was happening.

Poor soul, every kid deserves a chance to flourish as an adult.

We have.

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights""

Thanks

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The truth will be in there somewhere.

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By *elsh_lass74Woman
over a year ago

South Wales

So sad for the family

My boy is 13 been bullied at school for a few years. Over the summer he's told me he's bi-sexual. I told him he didn't have enough life experience to know right now. Trouble with kids today, they are so hung up on labels. He says he's more comfy around boys than girls.

I asked him his celebrity crush. He didn't have a female one, but likes Ru Paul but as a woman.

He wanted to tell anyone who would listen about it all. I said to him that not everyone is mature or open minded enough to accept him and that's their problem not his.

I told him to concentrate on school, he has his GCSEs to pick soon. And let everything else fall into place.

As a parent I'd hope he would come and talk to me if things got on top of him. My heart goes out to that mum

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?

That's so true, my oldest and his friends are all 7 and 8, and even they talk about having girlfriends."

As if kids understand the concept.

They see adult together and replication behaviour ffs

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"So sad for the family

I asked him his celebrity crush. He didn't have a female one, but likes Ru Paul but as a woman.

He wanted to tell anyone who would listen about it all. I said to him that not everyone is mature or open minded enough to accept him and that's their problem not his.

I told him to concentrate on school, he has his GCSEs to pick soon. And let everything else fall into place.

As a parent I'd hope he would come and talk to me if things got on top of him. My heart goes out to that mum

I don't think what you've done there is right at all, sexual attraction has nothing to do with life experience. That took some stones for him to tell his own mum he's bisexual and you just brushed it off like it's a phase. I obviously don't know you or your son but if I told a family member and they were that dismissive of it then I would not be happy at all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights""

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

‘Most children know who they’re attracted to’, based on what evidence exactly?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

There is a dead boy and it has been ruled as suicide by the morgue.

Based on the facts above, its almost certain the bullying had started long before he came out and therefore, it's highly suspect to call it homophobic bullying. I think the mother wants to make it about that because she's into social justice issues. Common sense tells us that otherwise well balanced children don't commit suicide after 4 days of bullying, especially when their mother is supportive of them coming out.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

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By *ottie_84Woman
over a year ago

Nottingham

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

You mean it hasn’t already?

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By *elsh_lass74Woman
over a year ago

South Wales

"So sad for the family

I asked him his celebrity crush. He didn't have a female one, but likes Ru Paul but as a woman.

He wanted to tell anyone who would listen about it all. I said to him that not everyone is mature or open minded enough to accept him and that's their problem not his.

I told him to concentrate on school, he has his GCSEs to pick soon. And let everything else fall into place.

As a parent I'd hope he would come and talk to me if things got on top of him. My heart goes out to that mum

I was not dismissive at all or brushed it off. Yes, it was a big thing for him to tell me and then to go and tell his dad.

He has had no life experience apart from school, family, rugby TKD, scouts and now air cadets.

He will get his life experience when he is more independent.

What ever he does in life, I will always be proud. He's had a tough time, not an easy life for someone of 13.

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over a year ago

That's the problem with labels.

Children are developing and experiencing all sorts if emotions as they grow. Did he truly understand the concept of what he was feeling, and who or what influence led him to believe he was a "label" at that age?

It's also disturbing that he fully understood the concept of suicide and how to commit the act.

Let children grow and learn and experiment. Too many adults aren't allowing this for their kids.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay.

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By *horecruxCouple
over a year ago

SE4

So have they ruled out the liberal mother

I suppose it's her word taken for granted

How did he do it ?

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay. "

I wasn't addressing you with that broken, it was aimed at the blatantly bigoted remark made by the op

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So have they ruled out the liberal mother

I suppose it's her word taken for granted

How did he do it ? "

The death is officially ruled suicide. The mother is not a suspect to any crime.

The evidence of the bullying being specifically homophobic is shaky.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay.

I wasn't addressing you with that broken, it was aimed at the blatantly bigoted remark made by the op"

No i realise you weren't. I understand why a 9 year old coming out as gay will raise eyebrows, but people should remember hindsight bias and how it effects low probability events. We would be surprised if we won the lottery, but it's not a surprise that someone wins the lottery. So his age isn't really good evidence of much here, so I disagree with with the OP about that. We tend to read these stories the wrong way round, rather than think what's the probability a 9 year old was gay, it's better to think - what's the probability you'd be reading about him if there wasn't something unusual about the case.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay.

I wasn't addressing you with that broken, it was aimed at the blatantly bigoted remark made by the op"

Climate change isn't real. It's just a new form of tax, ahem carbon tax ( ex girlfriend, meteorologist, works at the met office).

Black lives matter are hypocrtically racist themselves.

Immigrants don't make america great.

Ask Germany.

As for womens rights. Ask women on here if they have it hard lol.

Statistically men have a much higher rate of dying at work.

Far more men end up commiting suicide every year.

More women are being employed over men.

More women are passing exams with zero talk of how to help men.

Nobody talks about the physical abuse men receive.

Rape culture is another myth perpetuated by liberals.

I could go on but let's get something straight.

The real bigots are liberals themselves. Look at they way they behave when things don't go their way.

Protest protest protest. Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy

Bigotry

Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Intolerance... because i don't agree with them... hmmmmmmmm

Calling me a bigot because i don't agree with liberals and their blatant lies is just another part of the kitchen sink they throw to discredit the truth.

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over a year ago

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay.

I wasn't addressing you with that broken, it was aimed at the blatantly bigoted remark made by the op

Climate change isn't real. It's just a new form of tax, ahem carbon tax ( ex girlfriend, meteorologist, works at the met office).

Black lives matter are hypocrtically racist themselves.

Immigrants don't make america great.

Ask Germany.

As for womens rights. Ask women on here if they have it hard lol.

Statistically men have a much higher rate of dying at work.

Far more men end up commiting suicide every year.

More women are being employed over men.

More women are passing exams with zero talk of how to help men.

Nobody talks about the physical abuse men receive.

Rape culture is another myth perpetuated by liberals.

I could go on but let's get something straight.

The real bigots are liberals themselves. Look at they way they behave when things don't go their way.

Protest protest protest. Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy

Bigotry

Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Intolerance... because i don't agree with them... hmmmmmmmm

Calling me a bigot because i don't agree with liberals and their blatant lies is just another part of the kitchen sink they throw to discredit the truth.

Oh dear...

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

"US mum's anguish over nine-year-old son's suicide

The mother of a US nine-year-old, who she says killed himself after enduring homophobic bullying

She said her son had been proud to tell people he was gay when he returned to school.

Some fellow pupils told him to kill himself.

While this is horrible...

Please explain to me why a nine year old should be thinking about his sexuality?

Because that the way the world is going, the moment you are born you have to know your sexuality be proud be a PC or SJW be gender neutral be a feminist, say the right things, don't be racists, don't be white.

I personally thing people need to be human first

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My best friend wanted to commit suicide at 9 after some traumatic events. I have a friend who is a step dad to 5 year old boy who is having suicidal thoughts. He is depressed after learning about his dad and the awful things he did. I also knew I was into boys in a big way from the age of 6, was very drawn to them and was chasing lots. A lot of my colleagues are gay and many knew they were different from a younger age.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"US mum's anguish over nine-year-old son's suicide

The mother of a US nine-year-old, who she says killed himself after enduring homophobic bullying

She said her son had been proud to tell people he was gay when he returned to school.

Some fellow pupils told him to kill himself.

While this is horrible...

Please explain to me why a nine year old should be thinking about his sexuality?

I have not read the thread and not sure about other replies but op sorry your post show's ignorance regards being gay.

Most men and women know from a fairly early age that they are gay lot's struggle with this,but almost everyone I have ever known who is gay said they always knew.

As for thinking about sexuality at that age these days it's far easier to gain information regarding sex than ever before rightly or wrongly but unfortunately kids grow up alot quicker than ever.

A very sad story indeed regards the young boy.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

There are people on here who say, at the age of 9, they had no sexual awareness.

And then there is this kid who, at the same age, had the wherewithal to end it all.

To take his own life.

At the age of 9.

That is a damaged kid.

Very.

No point judging the kid, folks, he is dead.

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over a year ago

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights""

Just because he only came out as being gay over the summer doesn't mean he hasn't been bullied for being gay for years.

A friend of mine was bullied for being gay the whole time I knew him at High School. He even had girlfriends during that time. He did come out as bring gay in his mid-twenties.

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over a year ago

Climate change isn't real. It's just a new form of tax, ahem carbon tax ( ex girlfriend, meteorologist, works at the met office).

Black lives matter are hypocrtically racist themselves.

Immigrants don't make america great.

Ask Germany.

As for womens rights. Ask women on here if they have it hard lol.

Statistically men have a much higher rate of dying at work.

Far more men end up commiting suicide every year.

More women are being employed over men.

More women are passing exams with zero talk of how to help men.

Nobody talks about the physical abuse men receive.

Rape culture is another myth perpetuated by liberals.

I could go on but let's get something straight.

The real bigots are liberals themselves. Look at they way they behave when things don't go their way.

Protest protest protest. Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy

Bigotry

Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Intolerance... because i don't agree with them... hmmmmmmmm

Calling me a bigot because i don't agree with liberals and their blatant lies is just another part of the kitchen sink they throw to discredit the truth.

Okay

Question 1. How does your ex working at the met office validate your claim that climate change is a lie? You've claim "you only speak the truth£, but surely that requires more than 1 persons opinion to substantiat as truth?

Why would Germany be able to confirm that immigrants don't make America great? And which generation of immigrants are you talking about? Those that stole the land off the native Americans?

Again, you claim to speak facts but your evidence that women don't have equality is to suggest asking the women on here? So you are admitting you don't know the answer to your own rhetorical question. But also say you speak the truth? Despite a number of plucked statistics that you seem to think reinforces your claim when in reality just highlight your own lack of knowledge on the subject

Rape culture is a lie? Wait I think this is the point I walk away...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ah, I was wrong, he's not just a bigot, he's insane

Typical libertarian, can't cope with facts, thinks the words intolerance and disagreeing are the same.

Doesn't deal with statistics to speak truth.

Resorts to insults.

Cannot compute

Warning Warning Violent outburst imminent

Protest protest

Must force Transgenderism on everyone

Accept me

Must crush white male privilege

Something tells me you get all your world views from fox news and Alex jones"

Alex jones is an absolute nut job and I don't watch TV.

Please girls/i better not assume anyones gender, stop avoiding the question...

Where have I shown intolerance to your opinions in the absence of facts?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

Just because he only came out as being gay over the summer doesn't mean he hasn't been bullied for being gay for years.

A friend of mine was bullied for being gay the whole time I knew him at High School. He even had girlfriends during that time. He did come out as bring gay in his mid-twenties."

It's a bit of a stretch to assume many 9 year olds are concerned with that kind of thing. I think saying that 7 and 8 year olds bully over this kind of thing is speculative at best, and probably bullshit.

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

Just because he only came out as being gay over the summer doesn't mean he hasn't been bullied for being gay for years.

A friend of mine was bullied for being gay the whole time I knew him at High School. He even had girlfriends during that time. He did come out as bring gay in his mid-twenties.

So, I have given you an example of a child being bullied for being gay (he was bullied during primary school too, but I don't have first-hand knowledge of what he experienced), but you completely dismiss it? It's not speculative, it happens. That means that the information given by the 14 year old sister should not be dismissed just because you can't accept it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ah, I was wrong, he's not just a bigot, he's insane

Typical libertarian, can't cope with facts, thinks the words intolerance and disagreeing are the same.

Doesn't deal with statistics to speak truth.

Resorts to insults.

Cannot compute

Warning Warning Violent outburst imminent

Protest protest

Must force Transgenderism on everyone

Accept me

Must crush white male privilege

Something tells me you get all your world views from fox news and Alex jones

Alex jones is an absolute nut job and I don't watch TV.

Please girls/i better not assume anyones gender, stop avoiding the question...

Where have I shown intolerance to your opinions in the absence of facts?

Given that you seem to acknowledge white male privilege insists, why do you suggest crushing it is a bad thing?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

Just because he only came out as being gay over the summer doesn't mean he hasn't been bullied for being gay for years.

A friend of mine was bullied for being gay the whole time I knew him at High School. He even had girlfriends during that time. He did come out as bring gay in his mid-twenties.

You basically make a claim that's impossible to prove or disprove. The mother effectively said the bullying started before he came out. You claim that they always secretly knew he was gay. It's possible. I don't think it's probable.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"Ah, I was wrong, he's not just a bigot, he's insane

Typical libertarian, can't cope with facts, thinks the words intolerance and disagreeing are the same.

Doesn't deal with statistics to speak truth.

Resorts to insults.

Cannot compute

Warning Warning Violent outburst imminent

Protest protest

Must force Transgenderism on everyone

Accept me

Must crush white male privilege

Something tells me you get all your world views from fox news and Alex jones

Alex jones is an absolute nut job and I don't watch TV.

Please girls/i better not assume anyones gender, stop avoiding the question...

Where have I shown intolerance to your opinions in the absence of facts?

Given that you seem to acknowledge white male privilege insists, why do you suggest crushing it is a bad thing?

Are you fucking retarded aswell?

White male privilage is another lie liberals spout. I was impersonating a liberal going into meltdown spouting rubbish.

I'm done I can't do this anymore"

Then please, feel free to leave this site, country, planet, you choose. We don't need your ridiculous vitriol around here. As well as the fact you have directly insulted people, I'm sure you'll be having some fun on a forced holiday from the forums

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ah, I was wrong, he's not just a bigot, he's insane

Typical libertarian, can't cope with facts, thinks the words intolerance and disagreeing are the same.

Doesn't deal with statistics to speak truth.

Resorts to insults.

Cannot compute

Warning Warning Violent outburst imminent

Protest protest

Must force Transgenderism on everyone

Accept me

Must crush white male privilege

Something tells me you get all your world views from fox news and Alex jones

Alex jones is an absolute nut job and I don't watch TV.

Please girls/i better not assume anyones gender, stop avoiding the question...

Where have I shown intolerance to your opinions in the absence of facts?

Given that you seem to acknowledge white male privilege insists, why do you suggest crushing it is a bad thing?

Are you fucking retarded aswell?

White male privilage is another lie liberals spout. I was impersonating a liberal going into meltdown spouting rubbish.

I'm done I can't do this anymore

You still can't do it can you? You can't bring one piece of truth.

You just pop up to try and bait some PC crap.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"Ah, I was wrong, he's not just a bigot, he's insane

Typical libertarian, can't cope with facts, thinks the words intolerance and disagreeing are the same.

Doesn't deal with statistics to speak truth.

Resorts to insults.

Cannot compute

Warning Warning Violent outburst imminent

Protest protest

Must force Transgenderism on everyone

Accept me

Must crush white male privilege

Something tells me you get all your world views from fox news and Alex jones

Alex jones is an absolute nut job and I don't watch TV.

Please girls/i better not assume anyones gender, stop avoiding the question...

Where have I shown intolerance to your opinions in the absence of facts?

Given that you seem to acknowledge white male privilege insists, why do you suggest crushing it is a bad thing?

Are you fucking retarded aswell?

White male privilage is another lie liberals spout. I was impersonating a liberal going into meltdown spouting rubbish.

I'm done I can't do this anymore

You still can't do it can you? You can't bring one piece of truth.

You just pop up to try and bait some PC crap.

It's not that I can't, it's that I don't want to, there some old expression about not being to argue with stupid. You're clearly set in your truly insane views and I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone that won't listen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

So his mother is a liberal eh? Meaning the whole story is probably bullshit homosexual propaganda.

If a young boy really did pass then that is very sad but honestly, I now have my doubts

Careful, your bigotry is starting to show

I find the reporting of it to be dishonest. I'm fine with the concept of a 9 year old knowing they are gay.

I wasn't addressing you with that broken, it was aimed at the blatantly bigoted remark made by the op

Climate change isn't real. It's just a new form of tax, ahem carbon tax ( ex girlfriend, meteorologist, works at the met office).

Black lives matter are hypocrtically racist themselves.

Immigrants don't make america great.

Ask Germany.

As for womens rights. Ask women on here if they have it hard lol.

Statistically men have a much higher rate of dying at work.

Far more men end up commiting suicide every year.

More women are being employed over men.

More women are passing exams with zero talk of how to help men.

Nobody talks about the physical abuse men receive.

Rape culture is another myth perpetuated by liberals.

I could go on but let's get something straight.

The real bigots are liberals themselves. Look at they way they behave when things don't go their way.

Protest protest protest. Hypocrisy Hypocrisy Hypocrisy

Bigotry

Intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Intolerance... because i don't agree with them... hmmmmmmmm

Calling me a bigot because i don't agree with liberals and their blatant lies is just another part of the kitchen sink they throw to discredit the truth.

Well that went south fast!

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By *alking DisasterWoman
over a year ago

South Oxfordshire

Well here are some facts about the case:

- The mother said the school were aware he was being bullied, but not necessarily because of his sexuality

- The boy wanted to dress like a girl and wear nail extensions

- The boy attended a school with 370 pupils, 71% are non-white

- The boy and his mother have different surnames

- I could find no comment in any media sources from his father

- The boy did not tell his mother about any homophobic bullying before his suicide

- He had come out to the family over the summer and his mother was supportive of his decision

- The mother is pictured wearing a t-shirt that says "love is love, black lives matter, climate change is real, immigrants make america great, womens rights are human rights"

Just because he only came out as being gay over the summer doesn't mean he hasn't been bullied for being gay for years.

A friend of mine was bullied for being gay the whole time I knew him at High School. He even had girlfriends during that time. He did come out as bring gay in his mid-twenties.

No, I have stated that children of that age do bully other children for being gay, so it cannot be dismissed like you have done.

And remember, what happened to my friend was 30 years ago. It's likely to be worse now.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Ive removed abusive posts and others that cant be discussed in the forums and Im closing this now sorry

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