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"Not sure about damaged, but she sounds like my ideal date! Where can I find her? " I think it sounds a bit like me!  | |||
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"Im only 2 short of being undamaged goods then. I'll carry on waiting for my prince to save me then. " Yes, but you’re 200 over in the casual sex partners | |||
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"In all seriousness, the guy is clearly a twat, irrespective of what letters he might have after his name. " Is he a twat? Or is he just ignorant to the charms of women? Of which there are many  | |||
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"Im only 2 short of being undamaged goods then. I'll carry on waiting for my prince to save me then. Yes, but you’re 200 over in the casual sex partners "I thought I'd hidden all the veri's too   | |||
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"Im only 2 short of being undamaged goods then. I'll carry on waiting for my prince to save me then. Yes, but you’re 200 over in the casual sex partners
I thought I'd hidden all the veri's too "There are 200 blokes walking around with delirious smiles on their faces, that can’t be hidden  | |||
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"Im only 2 short of being undamaged goods then. I'll carry on waiting for my prince to save me then. Yes, but you’re 200 over in the casual sex partners
I thought I'd hidden all the veri's too "201 is a better number | |||
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"In all seriousness, the guy is clearly a twat, irrespective of what letters he might have after his name. " I'm pretty sure he doesn't have any letters after his name! | |||
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"Op. Im assuming this is a tongue in cheek thread but there is no emoji" It's a quote, it doesn't reflect the opinions of the OP! I'm just musing why there is so much of this sort of content on YouTube and what impact it might have on young men. | |||
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"Op. Im assuming this is a tongue in cheek thread but there is no emoji It's a quote, it doesn't reflect the opinions of the OP! I'm just musing why there is so much of this sort of content on YouTube and what impact it might have on young men. " It's okay, there's plenty of porn out there for the young men to get ideas from. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing" In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. " Sounds like this kind of idiot would drain all of my positive energy. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. " well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. " He doesn't sound too well balanced himself. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. Sounds like this kind of idiot would drain all of my positive energy. " The thing is, I picked on one video, but there's a mountain of content all saying similar messages... | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves" Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. " Whats wrong with women who smoke | |||
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"I assume coach red pill is an American? " Yes, he's not exactly a stud muffin either | |||
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"Just educating myself on YouTube about signs to look out for that a woman might be 'damaged goods'. This helpful advice comes from 'coach red pill', who definately doesn't hate woman at all, not even just a little bit, why would you even assume that? He tells us that these are the warning signs a woman is damaged: - too many piercing in her ear - any piercing in her nose, tongue or nipple - any tatoos - green or blue hair - she smokes - she's had more than two sexual partners - she's ever had a casual sexual partner - she'll fuck you on a first date - she hates her father - she only wants one child I wish this sort of helpful advice was around when I was single. I feel that he could have made the 22 minute shorter by just saying "date mormons" but hey ho. " What a load of utter bollocks | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women "when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls | |||
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"I assume coach red pill is an American? Yes, he's not exactly a stud muffin either" He sounds more damaged than the women he’s describing. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women "Some of the nicest, most respectful guys I have dated have been brought up with just a Mum. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls "I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. | |||
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"I assume coach red pill is an American? Yes, he's not exactly a stud muffin either He sounds more damaged than the women he’s describing. " ha exacty. Probably a blue haired pierced woman rejected him | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. "What if boys come from a role model like this guy? There are plenty of useless fathers out there that don’t set a good example. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK.
What if boys come from a role model like this guy? There are plenty of useless fathers out there that don’t set a good example."Then the problem is potentially bigger than half a million boys in the UK. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. "why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing | |||
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" J - she only wants one child I wish this sort of helpful advice was around when I was single. I feel that he could have made the 22 minute shorter by just saying "date mormons" but hey ho. " Crikey, what if you don't want any?? I must really be beyond redemption. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing" | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing"And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing"It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. | |||
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"Just educating myself on YouTube about signs to look out for that a woman might be 'damaged goods'. This helpful advice comes from 'coach red pill', who definately doesn't hate woman at all, not even just a little bit, why would you even assume that? He tells us that these are the warning signs a woman is damaged: - too many piercing in her ear - any piercing in her nose, tongue or nipple - any tatoos - green or blue hair - she smokes - she's had more than two sexual partners - she's ever had a casual sexual partner - she'll fuck you on a first date - she hates her father - she only wants one child I wish this sort of helpful advice was around when I was single. I feel that he could have made the 22 minute shorter by just saying "date mormons" but hey ho. " I think that could apply to us boys too  | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too. "Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties. "Well in that case it wouldnt matter who brought them up then, mother, father, crazy american guy, wolves? if they aren't going to be able to grasp being a decent human till they are 20 | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties. "doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all? | |||
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"My partner is 75. His father died whilst his mum was pregnant. He was brought up by just his mother who died when he was 15. What about all the kids losing their father in the war. Ha ha ha im on a role. Its just one big fat excuse for the way a "minority" of individuals think these days" Like I said earlier, some of the most grounded and rounded guys I’ve met were from a single mum. They had so much respect and understood women well. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
Well in that case it wouldnt matter who brought them up then, mother, father, crazy american guy, wolves? if they aren't going to be able to grasp being a decent human till they are 20"Missed the point by quite some way | |||
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"My partner is 75. His father died whilst his mum was pregnant. He was brought up by just his mother who died when he was 15. What about all the kids losing their father in the war. Ha ha ha im on a role. Its just one big fat excuse for the way a "minority" of individuals think these days Like I said earlier, some of the most grounded and rounded guys I’ve met were from a single mum. They had so much respect and understood women well. " So no case to answer for then? There's no problem with this kind of content because there are very few boys without mothers and therefore hardly anyone will be influenced by this kind of thing? I like your optimism. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. "what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent"It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. "But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods? "now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex. I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing"The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
exactly and thats with the father being there not without"Oh I think a strong male role model is as important as a strong female role model. However role models aren't always good. There are too many influences on children to blame just one for the imminent demise of male/female relationships | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
Are those the only two choices then? Single parent or abusive marriage. "no but you seemed to be implying that girls had only one choice of parent to ask about periods. It was an example. There is no one cause of bad attitudes to women | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. "why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society"And its assuming young people cant overcome any perceived challenges they may face. Why think someone with no father figure would automatically jump on the slightly crazy bandwagon | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
Are those the only two choices then? Single parent or abusive marriage.
no but you seemed to be implying that girls had only one choice of parent to ask about periods. It was an example. There is no one cause of bad attitudes to women"I'm more speculating forward than talking about today. We haven't really seen a generation raised with all social media there from the start of their childhood, then reach adulthood. It concerns me. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
And its assuming young people cant overcome any perceived challenges they may face. Why think someone with no father figure would automatically jump on the slightly crazy bandwagon"Not automatically, it's a proven risk factor with ample stats about it. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society"Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? "off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household"Well here's what's not debatable: Men commit a lot more crime than woman Young men commit more crime than old men Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't What I'm speculating is: The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly As are the number of highly impressionable boys There will be even more negative effects from all this | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this "men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding. Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed | |||
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"Just educating myself on YouTube about signs to look out for that a woman might be 'damaged goods'. This helpful advice comes from 'coach red pill', who definately doesn't hate woman at all, not even just a little bit, why would you even assume that? He tells us that these are the warning signs a woman is damaged: - too many piercing in her ear - any piercing in her nose, tongue or nipple - any tatoos - green or blue hair - she smokes - she's had more than two sexual partners - she's ever had a casual sexual partner - she'll fuck you on a first date - she hates her father - she only wants one child I wish this sort of helpful advice was around when I was single. I feel that he could have made the 22 minute shorter by just saying "date mormons" but hey ho. " I mean...I tick nine of these 
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed"3x more likely to develop mental health problems, 2x more likely to attempt suicide, Twice as likely to drop out of school, More likely to end up in prison ... | |||
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"Just educating myself on YouTube about signs to look out for that a woman might be 'damaged goods'. This helpful advice comes from 'coach red pill', who definately doesn't hate woman at all, not even just a little bit, why would you even assume that? He tells us that these are the warning signs a woman is damaged: - too many piercing in her ear - any piercing in her nose, tongue or nipple - any tatoos - green or blue hair - she smokes - she's had more than two sexual partners - she's ever had a casual sexual partner - she'll fuck you on a first date - she hates her father - she only wants one child I wish this sort of helpful advice was around when I was single. I feel that he could have made the 22 minute shorter by just saying "date mormons" but hey ho. " l Well 7 of those are prereqs for me and a couple of other nice to haves. | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves." Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves. Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. " I have the stats to prove it, stolen of course | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
now you know it isn't that easy. Its a learned thing, its absorbed from the cradle by the way parents behave, how they treat each other and other members of the opposite sex.
I would say that a boy and a girl child would have their perceptions of men and women influenced badly by witnessing parents in an abusive marriage. Continually hearing their mother referred to as useless etc by their father will give out the message that women are well...useless and unable to stand up for themselves. By the time they get to youtube and these daft men who clearly hate women its too damn late
Are those the only two choices then? Single parent or abusive marriage.
no but you seemed to be implying that girls had only one choice of parent to ask about periods. It was an example. There is no one cause of bad attitudes to women
I'm more speculating forward than talking about today. We haven't really seen a generation raised with all social media there from the start of their childhood, then reach adulthood. It concerns me. "there had never been a generation raised with access to television or radio or the car etc. I have concerns about social media too. However you seem to suggest that parental influences or lack of are the strongest. Is there hope that good parental influence will beat social media? | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery"But we aren't debating whether people on the past did it or not. We're talking about whether boys from fatherless homes are more likely to do it and the data clearly shows they are. | |||
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"Op. Can you point me to your evidence where young males commit suicide through lack of male role models. Ive just been reading up. The most commenest is pyscological issues or bullying. I cross referenced the pyscological issues an non are down to lack of male role model. The only thing i found was parents divorcing/feeling isolated as a cause. But the parents divorcing was nowwhere near top of the list" . Suicide is the preserve of wealthy white people in the main. It's rare in poor countries and pretty much unheard of in tribal communities, bullying has been round since the dawn of time and if anything is on the decrease, whereas suicide is on the up up up. | |||
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"Op. Im assuming this is a tongue in cheek thread but there is no emoji It's a quote, it doesn't reflect the opinions of the OP! I'm just musing why there is so much of this sort of content on YouTube and what impact it might have on young men. " I'm wondering what impact it might have on a woman's self esteem.. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods? "Mine did. She kept no lady conditions from me until after she was married. That was scary. Thinking on it she still asks me for a second opinion.. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
And thats asuming all boys are of sub intelligence and cant work things out for themselves too.
Children aren't adults, no they can't grasp all the complexities of an adult world. Their logic and reasoning ability won't even be completed until they are in their twenties.
doesn't children's opinion of women come from female role models at all?
Do daughters ask their fathers about periods?
Mine did. She kept no lady conditions from me until after she was married. That was scary. Thinking on it she still asks me for a second opinion.."my son is like that. I think the best hes come up with so far is wanting me to describe the best sexual positions in pregnancy | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery"Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. "are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put? | |||
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"Op. Can you point me to your evidence where young males commit suicide through lack of male role models. Ive just been reading up. The most commenest is pyscological issues or bullying. I cross referenced the pyscological issues an non are down to lack of male role model. The only thing i found was parents divorcing/feeling isolated as a cause. But the parents divorcing was nowwhere near top of the list" We can never make a cause and effect claim like that. Statistics only prove a given sample are more likely to do something, they don't prove why. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?"You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. "youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves. Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. " Your stats indicate and combine fatherless families, social media and crime, and draws the conclusions that you have highlighted above and seem to agree with. What seems to be being ignored here with regards social media, internet is; Never before have the masses, young and old, smart and not so smart, seen just how corrupt our so-called betters are. Governments. Banks. Global corporations. Small businesses. Religions. Military. In short, the whole kit n 'taxman' kaboodle! The above is now being splashed across the social media daily. Do you think that peoples attitudes, single parent or otherwise, towards crime, male/female, young/old may be catching up ? After all you and your stats seem to be claiming that society's lack of male role models are failing. | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves. Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. Your stats indicate and combine fatherless families, social media and crime, and draws the conclusions that you have highlighted above and seem to agree with. What seems to be being ignored here with regards social media, internet is; Never before have the masses, young and old, smart and not so smart, seen just how corrupt our so-called betters are. Governments. Banks. Global corporations. Small businesses. Religions. Military. In short, the whole kit n 'taxman' kaboodle! The above is now being splashed across the social media daily. Do you think that peoples attitudes, single parent or otherwise, towards crime, male/female, young/old may be catching up ? After all you and your stats seem to be claiming that society's lack of male role models are failing. " . If this was true then China, Russia and most of the middle East and Africa would have far higher suicide rates than the West as there far more corrupt, they simply don't. It's white wealthy (by global standards) males. | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves. Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. Your stats indicate and combine fatherless families, social media and crime, and draws the conclusions that you have highlighted above and seem to agree with. What seems to be being ignored here with regards social media, internet is; Never before have the masses, young and old, smart and not so smart, seen just how corrupt our so-called betters are. Governments. Banks. Global corporations. Small businesses. Religions. Military. In short, the whole kit n 'taxman' kaboodle! The above is now being splashed across the social media daily. Do you think that peoples attitudes, single parent or otherwise, towards crime, male/female, young/old may be catching up ? After all you and your stats seem to be claiming that society's lack of male role models are failing. " Sorry there seemed to be a few questions in there, are you asking if I think the present society is failing? | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed"Ah sorry, thats what you get from skim reading, when these threads get all philosophical and the random stats start coming there's just not enough desire to read it all
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed
Ah sorry, thats what you get from skim reading, when these threads get all philosophical and the random stats start coming there's just not enough desire to read it all
And my anecdotal evidence is it was definitely worse, having lived long term with people from both generations I know when my life is by far more relaxed and calm, lol. "id be interested to discuss that with you further. But maybe not here. I tend disagree but its not as simple as that | |||
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"Well here's what's not debatable: ''Men commit a lot more crime than woman'' OR The men commit the crime on behalf of the women. ''Young men commit more crime than old men'' OR Young men steal steak, old men steal the sausages, no fucker watches the bangers. ''Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't'' OR Dads taught their sons how to be a great thieves. Those are alternative suggestions! Must be a lot of young female crime mafia bosses hiding in the shadows. Your stats indicate and combine fatherless families, social media and crime, and draws the conclusions that you have highlighted above and seem to agree with. What seems to be being ignored here with regards social media, internet is; Never before have the masses, young and old, smart and not so smart, seen just how corrupt our so-called betters are. Governments. Banks. Global corporations. Small businesses. Religions. Military. In short, the whole kit n 'taxman' kaboodle! The above is now being splashed across the social media daily. Do you think that peoples attitudes, single parent or otherwise, towards crime, male/female, young/old may be catching up ? After all you and your stats seem to be claiming that society's lack of male role models are failing. Sorry there seemed to be a few questions in there, are you asking if I think the present society is failing? " After much deliberation I have decided to give you a; Stupid answer! After venturing into the chatrooms/forums and seeing many many profile images. I have come to the concrete conclusion. Never buy 2nd hand sofas. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed
Ah sorry, thats what you get from skim reading, when these threads get all philosophical and the random stats start coming there's just not enough desire to read it all
And my anecdotal evidence is it was definitely worse, having lived long term with people from both generations I know when my life is by far more relaxed and calm, lol. id be interested to discuss that with you further. But maybe not here. I tend disagree but its not as simple as that"I agree not here pm if you like, then it can just be a chat between two people. I soul be interested in what and why you think differently. | |||
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"My Daughter sees her Dad regularly but we had split by the time she was born. My worry if you can call it a worry is that she may grow up not having respect for men. She's almost 9 but already knows how to use things against her father when she stays with him, if he says no to her having something or doing something she'll threaten him with telling Mammy, she's seen me shout at him, she's seen me walk towards him and him run away back to his car, she can sense that he's scared of me. She knows I used to work in a prison where "bad men" went and knows how I had to be in charge of them, seen me fight in various kickboxing competitions, sometimes against men and win. I put furniture together, mow lawns, have power tools, catch spiders. As far as she's concerned women are the stronger sex." My ex husband had a Mum who did all the male and female duties and yet his mum and Dad were still together. She just did diy better than him. His dad was a hard worker but at home he was pretty useless. It didn’t effect my ex in anyway. He was just useless at diy himself. | |||
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed
Ah sorry, thats what you get from skim reading, when these threads get all philosophical and the random stats start coming there's just not enough desire to read it all
And my anecdotal evidence is it was definitely worse, having lived long term with people from both generations I know when my life is by far more relaxed and calm, lol. id be interested to discuss that with you further. But maybe not here. I tend disagree but its not as simple as that
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"And what i dont get is. Im sure most of us are "damaged/have been damaged at some point. Surely its about how the individual deals with it and if they are dealing with it by changing their appearance its hardly a bad thing In the full video he says men shouldn't date women with any of these characteristics because they will drain his energy and ruin his career. well my intelligent answer is thats the biggest load of bollocks ive ever heard. And if young men fall for it their going to miss out on a lot of young women. The way the wommen look in the op is a good proportion of young women just expressing themselves Record numbers of young men are growing up without a stable role model. YouTube is probably where most will go for their info on women when you say a stable role model what are the statistics. Where do boys lacking stable roll models compare with girls
I meant to say male role model. Were talking about a million children growing up without a stable male role model, assume half of those are boys so half a million boys who are reasonably likely to be the target audience for this kind of thing, that's just in the UK. why do they actually need a good male role model. Surely a woman is capable of doing it. When my parents split in 1976 i was the only one in my class not to have a 2 parent family. Then more and more parents where splitting up and fathers fucking off. Thats 40 years ago hardly a new phenominom. How do they think the early generation of "no stable male role model" survived. And not only that look at all the parents that stayed together over the years where the father was a dead loss and had no input into his childs upbringing. Having no male role model certainly isnt a new thing
It's not a new thing, but it's more common than it's ever been. To answer your question, no a woman is not capable of being a masculine role model and a feminine role model at the same time. She can be one or the other, in most cases she will find it easier to be the feminine role model. If you accept the basic premise that masculine and feminine experiences are different and both are valuable, then no single parent can provide both at an optimal level. That's not to say that the boys can't go get a stable male role model elsewhere (teachers, sports coach etc) but what I'm saying is that when you've got a pool of over half a million of them, most won't and that will have consequences. what your saying is ludicrous. Its not more common. Yes my experiences as a single mother the thing i found the most difficult was explaining pubity to my son as i hadnt experiencd it. But guess what we sat down and watched documentaries and looked things up on the interent
It's a simple fact that fatherless households are at an all time high. But you seem to be saying its a bad thing and i cant understand why. The government obviously disagree with you that its a bad thing
The only way you could believe it isn't a bad thing is if you ascribe no value to masculinity at all. A fair few people do hold that view, but if you do then we're never going to agree. So best to agree to disagree. why is it best to disagree. Im finding your views fascinating. Lack of physical male and female role models is going to be very much the norm. Single women can adopt. Same sex couples can adopt. More lesbian and gay men are becoming more and more common. I think your view is extremy outdated especially for one so young growing up in modern day society
Maybe it will be the norm but that doesn't mean it's not a problem. Why is my view outdated. Do you have any evidence that the problem I'm predicting isn't likely to happen? off cause i dont same as you dont. But my prediction is society is goinng to be far more fucked up by the obsession with social media. People have been fucked up since time began with or without a physical role model. I say physical as your issue seems to be the lack of a physical man present in the household
Well here's what's not debatable:
Men commit a lot more crime than woman
Young men commit more crime than old men
Boys who grow up without fathers commit more crime than boys who don't
What I'm speculating is:
The volume of bad advice for impressionable boys is growing rapidly
As are the number of highly impressionable boys
There will be even more negative effects from all this men have always commiited more crime than women same as more men are peodophiles or mass murderers. Young peole have always committed more crime than old people. Dont see many old people out joyriding.
Id love to see all the statistics based on whether the act of physically not having a father present to having a shit father present. Recently i read an article of a teenage boy being giving a very light sentence for beating a dog to death due to the amount of physical violence he had witnessed
3x more likely to develop mental health problems,
2x more likely to attempt suicide,
Twice as likely to drop out of school,
More likely to end up in prison
...i agree that young people male and have more mental health problems or should i say its reported as we have no idea how many people of different generations had some kind of mental illness. As for young men committing suicide completly agree but would like to see the evidence on what has led to the suicides. As for the last two complete rubbish. People have been imprisoned since time began. As for dropping out of school people have always dropped out of school mostly mostly older people around 60+ due to lack of education and povery
Completely disagree I think female baby boomers have a lot more mental health problems, often badly treated ot dealt with, than millennial women who may have more acknowledged but are in a a generally better place, that of course is not scientific, but personal experience. are you disagreeing with broken brillance or me? Not sure what your saying in regards to what ive put?
You put that young people have more mental health problems. So directly you and indirectly whoever you're agreeing with. youve misread me. I said young people do have more mental health problems but back up i also said we have no evidence of of what mental heakth problems people had. In the days it wasnt discussed
Ah sorry, thats what you get from skim reading, when these threads get all philosophical and the random stats start coming there's just not enough desire to read it all
And my anecdotal evidence is it was definitely worse, having lived long term with people from both generations I know when my life is by far more relaxed and calm, lol. id be interested to discuss that with you further. But maybe not here. I tend disagree but its not as simple as that
I agree not here pm if you like, then it can just be a chat between two people. I soul be interested in what and why you think differently. i cant pm you "oh really, that's odd, your profile is hidden but thought we could still message. Off to bed now but I'll try and send you one, must have a filter in place I don't know about, lol. | |||
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