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"My other half has been banging on about going to see it so I sense a bank holiday Monday cinema trip tomorrow. Trailer looks good. " You won't be disappointed. I forgot to mention how funny it is. A rare mix of funny and suspense. You constantly worry their cover will be blown but lots of lighter moment to break the tension. | |||
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"I will be honest, I dismissed it out of hand due to having a feeling it would have social justice warrior messages aimed at current situations in it. I am at the edge with all this social justice stuff, It's gonna be the breaking of me." In the main film, there are two obvious digs at trump in the dialogue. Maybe more that went over my head. At the end, there's a complete SJW lecture where they pretend that a group classified by the US Department of Homeland security as "domestic terrorists" are somehow the good guys. I'd still recommend the film in spite of these moments, but i feel they should have put a trigger warning on it. | |||
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"See trailer and heard positive things. Can’t wait to see it. Thanks for info" Just overlook the massive political bias. They fail to mention that when David Duke ran to be President, he did so as a Democrat and not a Republican. Inconvinient facts like that are left out. It's still a good film. | |||
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"Ive just came out from seeing it, wasnt sure what to expect. Spike Lee has managed to make a film which is funny and entertaining without being disrespectful to the serious nature of the subject matter, much like he did with do the right thing. Those final moments though, packed a punch, and as the screen faded to black the audience went from silence to spontaneous applause. First time I have experienced that at a multiplex, art house cinemas, festivals and film clubs I expect that but not at the big multi's." Shame they forgot to mention that those "good guys" at the end are literally classified as terrorists but that's Hollywood. | |||
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"Went to see it when it came out on fri really enjoyed it Knew there would be bit of an anti trump bias after seeing interview with Lee, but worth watching Thought Denzel's son was very good in it and hard to believe based on true story" I'll try and track down the interview on YouTube | |||
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"I will be honest, I dismissed it out of hand due to having a feeling it would have social justice warrior messages aimed at current situations in it. I am at the edge with all this social justice stuff, It's gonna be the breaking of me. In the main film, there are two obvious digs at trump in the dialogue. Maybe more that went over my head. At the end, there's a complete SJW lecture where they pretend that a group classified by the US Department of Homeland security as "domestic terrorists" are somehow the good guys. I'd still recommend the film in spite of these moments, but i feel they should have put a trigger warning on it. " . Typical media bullshit though?. You'd think white supremacists were abound and taken over the planet | |||
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"I will be honest, I dismissed it out of hand due to having a feeling it would have social justice warrior messages aimed at current situations in it. I am at the edge with all this social justice stuff, It's gonna be the breaking of me. In the main film, there are two obvious digs at trump in the dialogue. Maybe more that went over my head. At the end, there's a complete SJW lecture where they pretend that a group classified by the US Department of Homeland security as "domestic terrorists" are somehow the good guys. I'd still recommend the film in spite of these moments, but i feel they should have put a trigger warning on it. . Typical media bullshit though?. You'd think white supremacists were abound and taken over the planet" You gotta love multi-millionaires, university graduates that have been teachers at the most prestigious university in the world, whinging about how oppressed they are | |||
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"I will be honest, I dismissed it out of hand due to having a feeling it would have social justice warrior messages aimed at current situations in it. I am at the edge with all this social justice stuff, It's gonna be the breaking of me. In the main film, there are two obvious digs at trump in the dialogue. Maybe more that went over my head. At the end, there's a complete SJW lecture where they pretend that a group classified by the US Department of Homeland security as "domestic terrorists" are somehow the good guys. I'd still recommend the film in spite of these moments, but i feel they should have put a trigger warning on it. . Typical media bullshit though?. You'd think white supremacists were abound and taken over the planet You gotta love multi-millionaires, university graduates that have been teachers at the most prestigious university in the world, whinging about how oppressed they are " . Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific!" so in other words, you haven't seen the film then | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then " . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole." a bit like alt-reich diatribes then | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then " Nothing he said is contradicted by the film | |||
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"Is a film out at the moment, based on a true story about a black police officer who led an investigation to infiltrate the KKK. We went to see it and enjoyed it, other than it's constant digs at current politics. It's well written with good suspense and acting. Anyone else seen it? Liked it? Disliked it? " Sounds interesting I'll look out for it, thanks | |||
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"I will be honest, I dismissed it out of hand due to having a feeling it would have social justice warrior messages aimed at current situations in it. I am at the edge with all this social justice stuff, It's gonna be the breaking of me." Nawwww it must be so hard being a white man. | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . " Spike lee doesnt like Quentin Tarantino very much | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. " Honestly the white (make) fragility is so blinding in this forum | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . Spike lee doesnt like Quentin Tarantino very much " I think Spike and Quentin were friends at one point and things soured for a few reasons. I think the most famous point being Tarantino's frequent use of the N-word in most of his films (which I find unnecessary and abhorrent). I also believe that there might be an element of jealousy there too as Tarantino was so widely accepted by the mainstream whereas Spike has always been on the periphery. I think anyone who makes this kind of art wants to be acknowledged and accepted by the mainstream. | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Honestly the white (make) fragility is so blinding in this forum" It is a shame. Many people don't have the emotional intelligence to look at the injustices/failings in our society and think about what their own response would be if placed in these situations. | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . " So you just ignore all the compliments i gave the movie? | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. " Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? " Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . So you just ignore all the compliments i gave the movie? " highly amusing that you choose to identify yourself with the content of Bob's post | |||
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"Is a film out at the moment, based on a true story about a black police officer who led an investigation to infiltrate the KKK. It's well written with good suspense and acting. Anyone else seen it? Liked it? Disliked it? " Boots Riley, the director of Sorry to bother you has written an interesting critique on the film and highlights some issues he has with it. Here's the link https://www.thefader.com/2018/08/20/boots-riley-spike-lee-blackkklansman-criticism-essay | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own." So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them " No I believe in a fairer society for ALL people. I feel as though incremental progress is being made but we can and always will be able to do better. Now what I am saying is that much of human behaviour is learned. We have been living in a world where many of the rules have been created by white males, who through history have used nefarious means to secure wealth which has allowed them to maintain control. This is not to say other cultures have not done despicable things to their own and other nations. So when "minority" groups living within this society have been indoctrinated in this particular way of thinking right or wrong. As such when they behave the same way as other groups who have mistreated and victimised them for centuries then decide to act as they do don't be surprised. I feel as though some of the issues which "SJW's" address globally are not always as prevalent here. That is not to say that many of the issues do not manifest themselves here but class/wealth may have a larger part to play. I along with so many other people from "minority" groups have to assimilate to environments not built for us. For example in the workplace many people of colour feel as though they have to suppress any element of ethnicity for fear of being singled out as ghetto, hood or any other derogatory phrase. So to ask for a little more understanding from people in a position to make changes so everyone feels free enough to be themselves without fear or hatred is not too much. All of that being said I think the triggered state we live in and knee jerk reaction to certain things is ridiculous and undermines the causes that these groups fight for and alienate others who may sympathise with their cause. And to clarify I say they because I do not actively participate in any action but would say that my political stance is mostly left leaning. | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them No I believe in a fairer society for ALL people. I feel as though incremental progress is being made but we can and always will be able to do better. Now what I am saying is that much of human behaviour is learned. We have been living in a world where many of the rules have been created by white males, who through history have used nefarious means to secure wealth which has allowed them to maintain control. This is not to say other cultures have not done despicable things to their own and other nations. So when "minority" groups living within this society have been indoctrinated in this particular way of thinking right or wrong. As such when they behave the same way as other groups who have mistreated and victimised them for centuries then decide to act as they do don't be surprised. I feel as though some of the issues which "SJW's" address globally are not always as prevalent here. That is not to say that many of the issues do not manifest themselves here but class/wealth may have a larger part to play. I along with so many other people from "minority" groups have to assimilate to environments not built for us. For example in the workplace many people of colour feel as though they have to suppress any element of ethnicity for fear of being singled out as ghetto, hood or any other derogatory phrase. So to ask for a little more understanding from people in a position to make changes so everyone feels free enough to be themselves without fear or hatred is not too much. All of that being said I think the triggered state we live in and knee jerk reaction to certain things is ridiculous and undermines the causes that these groups fight for and alienate others who may sympathise with their cause. And to clarify I say they because I do not actively participate in any action but would say that my political stance is mostly left leaning. " Do you realise that "fair" is one of the most meaningless words in the English language? Have you ever heard a politician in this country say they want a more unfair society? | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them No I believe in a fairer society for ALL people. I feel as though incremental progress is being made but we can and always will be able to do better. Now what I am saying is that much of human behaviour is learned. We have been living in a world where many of the rules have been created by white males, who through history have used nefarious means to secure wealth which has allowed them to maintain control. This is not to say other cultures have not done despicable things to their own and other nations. So when "minority" groups living within this society have been indoctrinated in this particular way of thinking right or wrong. As such when they behave the same way as other groups who have mistreated and victimised them for centuries then decide to act as they do don't be surprised. I feel as though some of the issues which "SJW's" address globally are not always as prevalent here. That is not to say that many of the issues do not manifest themselves here but class/wealth may have a larger part to play. I along with so many other people from "minority" groups have to assimilate to environments not built for us. For example in the workplace many people of colour feel as though they have to suppress any element of ethnicity for fear of being singled out as ghetto, hood or any other derogatory phrase. So to ask for a little more understanding from people in a position to make changes so everyone feels free enough to be themselves without fear or hatred is not too much. All of that being said I think the triggered state we live in and knee jerk reaction to certain things is ridiculous and undermines the causes that these groups fight for and alienate others who may sympathise with their cause. And to clarify I say they because I do not actively participate in any action but would say that my political stance is mostly left leaning. Do you realise that "fair" is one of the most meaningless words in the English language? Have you ever heard a politician in this country say they want a more unfair society? " I'm befuddled. What is your point? Did I at any point say I'm a politician? I believe the majority of people would have understood it's meaning in the context it was used. I don't believe I was trying to discuss the English language and it's use. I was just discussing some of my thoughts in reference to the issues presented in the forum. | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . Spike lee doesnt like Quentin Tarantino very much I think Spike and Quentin were friends at one point and things soured for a few reasons. I think the most famous point being Tarantino's frequent use of the N-word in most of his films (which I find unnecessary and abhorrent). I also believe that there might be an element of jealousy there too as Tarantino was so widely accepted by the mainstream whereas Spike has always been on the periphery. I think anyone who makes this kind of art wants to be acknowledged and accepted by the mainstream." If the N word is good enough for samuel l jackson should it be good enough for anyone? | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . Spike lee doesnt like Quentin Tarantino very much I think Spike and Quentin were friends at one point and things soured for a few reasons. I think the most famous point being Tarantino's frequent use of the N-word in most of his films (which I find unnecessary and abhorrent). I also believe that there might be an element of jealousy there too as Tarantino was so widely accepted by the mainstream whereas Spike has always been on the periphery. I think anyone who makes this kind of art wants to be acknowledged and accepted by the mainstream. If the N word is good enough for samuel l jackson should it be good enough for anyone?" If this is the case why did you say n-word and not the word itself? This word and its use has been discussed and debated by people much more informed than myself. I as a black man do not and have never felt comfortable with its use by anyone. The word itself is loaded with associations to the worst elements of a human being. America has a long history with the word steeped in centuries of racism originating in slavery (which is why the transatlantic slave trade was so much more insidious than slavery which had taken place by many populations throughout history). So for some members in the black community to repurpose the word as a term of endearment is flawed due to the fact there are those both inside and outside of said community who do not know it's history and the feelings it could cause through its use. | |||
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"I like spike lee .No doubt the swivel eyed clowns on the right will loose their shit and go full snowflake over a movie as can be seen already. . Spike lee doesnt like Quentin Tarantino very much I think Spike and Quentin were friends at one point and things soured for a few reasons. I think the most famous point being Tarantino's frequent use of the N-word in most of his films (which I find unnecessary and abhorrent). I also believe that there might be an element of jealousy there too as Tarantino was so widely accepted by the mainstream whereas Spike has always been on the periphery. I think anyone who makes this kind of art wants to be acknowledged and accepted by the mainstream. If the N word is good enough for samuel l jackson should it be good enough for anyone? If this is the case why did you say n-word and not the word itself? This word and its use has been discussed and debated by people much more informed than myself. I as a black man do not and have never felt comfortable with its use by anyone. The word itself is loaded with associations to the worst elements of a human being. America has a long history with the word steeped in centuries of racism originating in slavery (which is why the transatlantic slave trade was so much more insidious than slavery which had taken place by many populations throughout history). So for some members in the black community to repurpose the word as a term of endearment is flawed due to the fact there are those both inside and outside of said community who do not know it's history and the feelings it could cause through its use. " I dont like the word to be honest | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then " . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them No I believe in a fairer society for ALL people. I feel as though incremental progress is being made but we can and always will be able to do better. Now what I am saying is that much of human behaviour is learned. We have been living in a world where many of the rules have been created by white males, who through history have used nefarious means to secure wealth which has allowed them to maintain control. This is not to say other cultures have not done despicable things to their own and other nations. So when "minority" groups living within this society have been indoctrinated in this particular way of thinking right or wrong. As such when they behave the same way as other groups who have mistreated and victimised them for centuries then decide to act as they do don't be surprised. I feel as though some of the issues which "SJW's" address globally are not always as prevalent here. That is not to say that many of the issues do not manifest themselves here but class/wealth may have a larger part to play. I along with so many other people from "minority" groups have to assimilate to environments not built for us. For example in the workplace many people of colour feel as though they have to suppress any element of ethnicity for fear of being singled out as ghetto, hood or any other derogatory phrase. So to ask for a little more understanding from people in a position to make changes so everyone feels free enough to be themselves without fear or hatred is not too much. All of that being said I think the triggered state we live in and knee jerk reaction to certain things is ridiculous and undermines the causes that these groups fight for and alienate others who may sympathise with their cause. And to clarify I say they because I do not actively participate in any action but would say that my political stance is mostly left leaning. Do you realise that "fair" is one of the most meaningless words in the English language? Have you ever heard a politician in this country say they want a more unfair society? I'm befuddled. What is your point? Did I at any point say I'm a politician? I believe the majority of people would have understood it's meaning in the context it was used. I don't believe I was trying to discuss the English language and it's use. I was just discussing some of my thoughts in reference to the issues presented in the forum." My point is that nobody knows what your point is because you didn't make one. You just uses vague catch all terms that means all things to all people. | |||
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"I really wanted to see this film. Spike has been very hit (malcomlm x, get on the bus, 25th hour, he got game etc) and miss (she hate me, oldboy, chi-raq) throughout his career and as someone who has seen most if not all of his film including his documentaries I'm aware of some of his failings. It seems as though as is usually the case on these message boards that discussions about a particular subject turn into opportunities for people to start spouting there political perspectives. Should we not all want a more just society? Why is social justice such a divisive term? Is it because those who are most deeply offended by social justice are those who benefit from the current system? I as a black man I can see why many of the individual groups who are seen as SJW's would be inconvenience to some. Most of these groups call for society to adjust the power balance in our everyday interactions in order to make a better and fairer life for us all. I can understand why white males have felt victimised as few of us like change at the best of times let alone when it forces us to look inward at our own actions. I do believe many of these groups/movements can be more inclusive and less sensitive in a lot of these matters as change can take time that's not to say we should not strive for it anyway. Have you ever heard the phrase, two wrongs don't make a right? If so, do you disagree with it? Did you read my last sentence? If so I feel as though my point is quite clear. It is a action we have all learned since birth to respond/retaliate to actions against us by commiting the same or similar acts against those who would seek to harm us. It does not mean this is right in the overall scheme of things but when those individuals who seem to want keep the status quo only seem to repeat these behaviours time and time again maybe the only behaviour they can relate/respond/respect are actions similar to their own. So yes you do disagree with it then. Sounds like you don't have a problem with certain groups being given privileges, you just disagree with which groups are getting them No I believe in a fairer society for ALL people. I feel as though incremental progress is being made but we can and always will be able to do better. Now what I am saying is that much of human behaviour is learned. We have been living in a world where many of the rules have been created by white males, who through history have used nefarious means to secure wealth which has allowed them to maintain control. This is not to say other cultures have not done despicable things to their own and other nations. So when "minority" groups living within this society have been indoctrinated in this particular way of thinking right or wrong. As such when they behave the same way as other groups who have mistreated and victimised them for centuries then decide to act as they do don't be surprised. I feel as though some of the issues which "SJW's" address globally are not always as prevalent here. That is not to say that many of the issues do not manifest themselves here but class/wealth may have a larger part to play. I along with so many other people from "minority" groups have to assimilate to environments not built for us. For example in the workplace many people of colour feel as though they have to suppress any element of ethnicity for fear of being singled out as ghetto, hood or any other derogatory phrase. So to ask for a little more understanding from people in a position to make changes so everyone feels free enough to be themselves without fear or hatred is not too much. All of that being said I think the triggered state we live in and knee jerk reaction to certain things is ridiculous and undermines the causes that these groups fight for and alienate others who may sympathise with their cause. And to clarify I say they because I do not actively participate in any action but would say that my political stance is mostly left leaning. Do you realise that "fair" is one of the most meaningless words in the English language? Have you ever heard a politician in this country say they want a more unfair society? I'm befuddled. What is your point? Did I at any point say I'm a politician? I believe the majority of people would have understood it's meaning in the context it was used. I don't believe I was trying to discuss the English language and it's use. I was just discussing some of my thoughts in reference to the issues presented in the forum. My point is that nobody knows what your point is because you didn't make one. You just uses vague catch all terms that means all things to all people." I've made my point quite clearly. If you don't believe that to be the case then I can't do anything else for you. | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok" fear you say? pmsl | |||
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" I've made my point quite clearly. If you don't believe that to be the case then I can't do anything else for you. " Your idea of fairness seems to say that a Nazi punching a domestic terrorist is was than a domestic terrorist punching a Nazi. My idea of fairness is neither can punch each other. That's why your point doesn't make sense. | |||
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" I've made my point quite clearly. If you don't believe that to be the case then I can't do anything else for you. Your idea of fairness seems to say that a Nazi punching a domestic terrorist is was than a domestic terrorist punching a Nazi. My idea of fairness is neither can punch each other. That's why your point doesn't make sense. " At what point has anything I've said would lead you to believe this to be the case? I made no mention of terrorism or nazis and dont advocate the use of violence in any situation. You use a Nazi (an extremely charged example and rightly so) to engage others or myself to make it seem like you are a voice of reason. You clearly have some sort of agenda which I have no understanding or intent to engage with you in. If you want to talk about the filmography of spike lee I'll happily have a discussion with you. | |||
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" I've made my point quite clearly. If you don't believe that to be the case then I can't do anything else for you. Your idea of fairness seems to say that a Nazi punching a domestic terrorist is was than a domestic terrorist punching a Nazi. My idea of fairness is neither can punch each other. That's why your point doesn't make sense. At what point has anything I've said would lead you to believe this to be the case? I made no mention of terrorism or nazis and dont advocate the use of violence in any situation. You use a Nazi (an extremely charged example and rightly so) to engage others or myself to make it seem like you are a voice of reason. You clearly have some sort of agenda which I have no understanding or intent to engage with you in. If you want to talk about the filmography of spike lee I'll happily have a discussion with you." Have you seen the film? | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok fear you say? pmsl " . Well you seem to be in a denial of reality, the facts are yes some people are racist and yes some of them are cops but it's such a tiny amount and a shrinking amount as proven by the figures themselves, is it bad, sure, is it really a problem that deserves the massive amount of media and Street protests (ones I'd add that actually shout kill the fucking pigs). I mean how much air play do you think would be given to say, a trump rally if they were openly shouting kill the fucking journalists? | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok fear you say? pmsl . Well you seem to be in a denial of reality, the facts are yes some people are racist and yes some of them are cops but it's such a tiny amount and a shrinking amount as proven by the figures themselves, is it bad, sure, is it really a problem that deserves the massive amount of media and Street protests (ones I'd add that actually shout kill the fucking pigs). I mean how much air play do you think would be given to say, a trump rally if they were openly shouting kill the fucking journalists?" on this thread i have written the following ..... "so in other words, you haven't seen the film then ?" "a bit like alt-reich diatribes then" "fear you say? pmsl" ... and to another forum member, "highly amusing that you choose to identify yourself with the content of Bob's post" ... what have i written that has lead you to rant about living in denial, spreading fear and all the other stuff you're saying? lmao | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok fear you say? pmsl . Well you seem to be in a denial of reality, the facts are yes some people are racist and yes some of them are cops but it's such a tiny amount and a shrinking amount as proven by the figures themselves, is it bad, sure, is it really a problem that deserves the massive amount of media and Street protests (ones I'd add that actually shout kill the fucking pigs). I mean how much air play do you think would be given to say, a trump rally if they were openly shouting kill the fucking journalists? on this thread i have written the following ..... "so in other words, you haven't seen the film then ?" "a bit like alt-reich diatribes then" "fear you say? pmsl" ... and to another forum member, "highly amusing that you choose to identify yourself with the content of Bob's post" ... what have i written that has lead you to rant about living in denial, spreading fear and all the other stuff you're saying? lmao " . Why enter into a conversation then if you've got nothing to say?. | |||
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"Let's be honest, would you think that black terrorism or white terrorism is on the rise if you listened to main stream media?. I think most wombats would conclude that the "new" problem is pesky white KKK and neo Nazis!. Of course there'd be wrong, according to the FBI black terrorism outnumbers white terrorism by 4-1. Trump supporters are turning Nazi and beating minorites up?, nope, according to the FBI it's the complete opposite, anti trump supporters are hitting trump supporters at a wait for it, 14-1 ratio, yet somehow we're all fucking worried about white neo Nazis, it's like the MSM have lost their minds with trump, I'm no fan of his but Jesus it's becoming a mental illness with progressives. The biggest problem in America today is not trump or the KKK or neo Nazis, it's dammed lies, your more likely to be shot by the police if your white, your more likely to be shot by a black police officer than a white one, your more likely to fall into crime if your from a single parent family regardless of your colour, if your Asian your more likely to be in the top earning bracket!!!(yes more than whites),86% of cases highlighted by black lives matter turn out to be completely fabricated nonsense,86%!, your more likely to be struck by lightning as a black man than be shot by cops while unarmed!! and a final statistic, if you finish college don't have a child and get a job by 24 your very likely to succeed in life regardless of what colour you are (these are choices you make personally and the ones you can affect the most). The problem with liberals is there full of shit, killing Muslim terrorists is bad but killing 32 million unborn children is good, hell if only we killed more unborn kids the world would be terrific! so in other words, you haven't seen the film then . No I try and stay away from Hollywood films I find them tedious on the whole. a bit like alt-reich diatribes then . The world is full of problems, some more pressing than others!. You seem to like giving people a reason to live a fearful life, I'd prefer to tell them it really isn't as bad as you claim, get on with it, you'll do ok fear you say? pmsl . Well you seem to be in a denial of reality, the facts are yes some people are racist and yes some of them are cops but it's such a tiny amount and a shrinking amount as proven by the figures themselves, is it bad, sure, is it really a problem that deserves the massive amount of media and Street protests (ones I'd add that actually shout kill the fucking pigs). I mean how much air play do you think would be given to say, a trump rally if they were openly shouting kill the fucking journalists? on this thread i have written the following ..... "so in other words, you haven't seen the film then ?" "a bit like alt-reich diatribes then" "fear you say? pmsl" ... and to another forum member, "highly amusing that you choose to identify yourself with the content of Bob's post" ... what have i written that has lead you to rant about living in denial, spreading fear and all the other stuff you're saying? lmao . Why enter into a conversation then if you've got nothing to say?." really? lol | |||
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