FabSwingers.com forum: Black James Bond

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "
No one need to be any colour.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I don't feel he "needs" to be anything other than a suitable actor for the part - if the producers decide that that person is someone who happens to be black you'll get no complaints from me but I daresay the eternally outraged of the Daily Mail will have something to say about it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't feel he needs to be anything other than gorgeous, fit as fook and gets his kit off

Idris... Over here sweetie

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Was only reading yesterday how the director of the new bond 25 movie Danny Boyle quit this week.

I think Daniel Craig is supposed to be doing this last one and then leaving.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

Forgot to mention that James Bond drives an Aston Martin.. could a black James Bond drive an Aston without being stopped and searched? Me and my mate black got pulled over in a Renault Laguna by 2 riot vans.. imagine if we were in an Aston Martin DB11 or Vanquish, we would’ve been gunned down #justsaying

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Was only reading yesterday how the director of the new bond 25 movie Danny Boyle quit this week.

I think Daniel Craig is supposed to be doing this last one and then leaving."

That’s correct. Hence the discussion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

he is described in the book

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a few good actors black and white who would make a perfect James Bond

I would have loved to have seen Denzal Washington play James Bond

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a fan of people getting jobs to fill a quota. I'd prefer the actor to get it because he's a good Bond. I thought Idris would be good but that's got sod all to do with his skin colour.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dion Dublin surely? He does such a good job on Homes Under the Hammer

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Need to be no. Could be yes.

Idris is getting on a bit which is a shame as he would have been great.

Hardy next then who knows?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"There are a few good actors black and white who would make a perfect James Bond

I would have loved to have seen Denzal Washington play James Bond"

He will have to go to gym for about 14 months first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Idris would logically be too old by the time filming starts though Sean Connery managed it.

Favourite is still Tom Hardy

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By *naquest321Man
over a year ago

Carlisle

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character"

Not entirely, he based him on himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character"

Who is described by the creator

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman. "

That could be an interesting take.

The name's Bond, Janine Bond.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman. "

Black women?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Who is described by the creator"

So your take is that JB can only be white?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Not entirely, he based him on himself. "

And this explains nothing, nada. But many thanks for your input.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think the next James Bond “needs” to be anything.

But if he was black I don’t see the issue, I get that he was described as white but plenty of white people have played ethnic roles in films, so surely that means there are no rules when it comes to films & if the actor is good for the role, why not?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

No!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

Agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Who is described by the creator

So your take is that JB can only be white? "

Yes white and male

Nr dr who crap of doing something because its cool

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

It needs to be a man but doesn't matter where he is from or what colour providing he can speak in an English accent.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Who is described by the creator

So your take is that JB can only be white? "

If you are to stay true to the books then yes. Look at Jack Ryan. No camera angle or amount of stacked shoes is going to make Tom Cruise 6ft and ruggedly handsome. Some things need to be true to the book. Denzil Washington playing The Equilizor will be interesting to see if this works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure 007 and James Bond are not people, they're code names. I could be wrong but race shouldn't matter. I don't care as long as they're a good bond. Idris would be good. Bit controversial but if he bulked abit could see Benedict Cumberbatch as an awesome bond, deffinately got the accent for it

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Who is described by the creator

So your take is that JB can only be white?

I've really enjoyed Denzel Washington playing The Equalizer. This said I like him as an actor anyway.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

He is a literary character that is well described in many books,down to the way he likes his drink,and he's white

Bond is a bit special to me like with a lot of ppl having grown up with him

Why should it be changed to a black guy should be the question not why not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Colour doesn't matter, so long as she's a good actor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He is a literary character that is well described in many books,down to the way he likes his drink,and he's white

Bond is a bit special to me like with a lot of ppl having grown up with him

Why should it be changed to a black guy should be the question not why not"

Well whites have played ethnic roles in acting for decades, so why shouldn’t it be the same for Bond?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"but the fact that james bond is white"

Did Ian Fleming attribute a skin colour to his lead character?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He is a literary character that is well described in many books,down to the way he likes his drink,and he's white

Bond is a bit special to me like with a lot of ppl having grown up with him

Why should it be changed to a black guy should be the question not why not"

Interesting, gong to change the direction here a bit. Debate is to help promote diversity but the point is being missed because saying that Bond needs to be black is racist in itself.. why can he be Chinese or Indian or any other ethnicity..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"but the fact that james bond is white

Did Ian Fleming attribute a skin colour to his lead character?

I’m afraid he missed that as long as I remember.. correct me if I’m wrong

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"I don't feel he "needs" to be anything other than a suitable actor for the part - if the producers decide that that person is someone who happens to be black you'll get no complaints from me but I daresay the eternally outraged of the Daily Mail will have something to say about it!!"

I'm black and wouldn't kick Idris out of bed, but when I think of James Bond I don't see a black man. When I think of Maria and the Von Trapps I don't see Lupita Nyong'o in the role. I also wouldn't cast Peter Dinklage as Bond either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the uproar is stupid!! Fml, he’s black, so what?! He’s a great actor. It should be any man that can act irregardless of their skin colour!

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By *ooby birdWoman
over a year ago

North West

Black or white - does it really matter?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Black or white - does it really matter?"

Why not brown or Chinese or any other ethnicity?

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

Would end the James bond franchise.

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By *ymaleMan
over a year ago

nr Bradford

Sorry but I don't see it working, Bond has a specific back story which has him as very much white. Instead of trying to virtue signal Bond into something he's not, wouldn't it be better to just make a series of spy films that reflect the modern age rather than trying to shoe horn a character created in a very different age into this one?

Let's face it, there'd be outrage if a film were made about Dr King for instance, and it was suggested Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt was to play him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? No one need to be any colour. "

Geographically and through natural selection yes we do due to theneed for UV protection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry but I don't see it working, Bond has a specific back story which has him as very much white. Instead of trying to virtue signal Bond into something he's not, wouldn't it be better to just make a series of spy films that reflect the modern age rather than trying to shoe horn a character created in a very different age into this one?

Let's face it, there'd be outrage if a film were made about Dr King for instance, and it was suggested Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt was to play him."

James Bond is a fictional character...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could Winnie The Pooh be played by a Panda?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

Ermmm sit down Tony! he’s a fictional character

Who is described by the creator

So your take is that JB can only be white?

Denzel has played the Equaliser and it worked fine...colour wasn't an issue.

I agree 100% about Cruise. I think Stone Cold Steve Austin (if he could act) would have been better suited.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"He is a literary character that is well described in many books,down to the way he likes his drink,and he's white

Bond is a bit special to me like with a lot of ppl having grown up with him

Why should it be changed to a black guy should be the question not why not"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if shaft was remade in the states with a white guy or any other race would that go down well?

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By *ymaleMan
over a year ago

nr Bradford

Let's face it, there'd be outrage if a film were made about Dr King for instance, and it was suggested Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt was to play him.

James Bond is a fictional character..."

Indeed, but the point is the casting should reflect the narrative, not some PC wish list. Otherwise it looses it's authenticity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

I agree in this day and age that colour, sex or sexual orientation etc shouldn’t matter - and recently there has been many examples of white actors taking on traditionally ethnic roles (Scarlett Johansson in Ghost in the Shell jumps immediately to mind), so I guess it’s open to debate how ‘true’ to the books you think it should be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does Bond need an English accent? Connery only has one accent,.whether he was Spanish (What is thish Haggish you shpeak of) or Russian....

Fairly certain that Brosnan isn't English either...

There was uproar when Craig got the gig because he was - wait for it - Blond! The outrage!

Can't see Simon Pegg getting the gig though. #gingerlivesmatter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

Exactly my point which unsurprisingly nobody has answe_ed.

If white people can play ethnic roles in films such as Aloha & A Might Heart, why can’t James Bond be another race?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As people have said-James bond was written as a white guy. Loki for me

Some characters have to stay as they are meant to be. Bit like Dr Who being a woman- just wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman. "
...Brooke Bond ?

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

he is described in the book"

IF the films even vaguely followed the storylines of the books etc then I might be inclined to agree - but they don't in the slightest in some instances - so I don't see any need to stick to how he is described in the books - in fact to take that tangent being as he's described in the books as being strawberry blonde (if memory serves me right) should Connery, Lazenby, Dalton and Brosnan have got the part?

Same difference really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If he has an English accent, the ladies fancy him and the viewers are amazed at his abilities then the colour of skin shouldn’t matter imo

It’s a fictional character.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does Bond need an English accent? Connery only has one accent,.whether he was Spanish (What is thish Haggish you shpeak of) or Russian....

Fairly certain that Brosnan isn't English either...

There was uproar when Craig got the gig because he was - wait for it - Blond! The outrage!

Can't see Simon Pegg getting the gig though. #gingerlivesmatter"

Yes I did put English accent ooops maybe British then

Just not American hehe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for him being described as white, he was also described as driving a Bentley not the iconic Aston Martins we all grew up with

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

So what’s people take on James Bond being played by a Gay Actor or a TV/TS?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does Bond need an English accent? Connery only has one accent,.whether he was Spanish (What is thish Haggish you shpeak of) or Russian....

Fairly certain that Brosnan isn't English either...

There was uproar when Craig got the gig because he was - wait for it - Blond! The outrage!

Can't see Simon Pegg getting the gig though. #gingerlivesmatter

Yes I did put English accent ooops maybe British then

Just not American hehe "

Apparently he's of Scottish/Swiss stock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

So what’s people take on James Bond being played by a Gay Actor or a TV/TS? "

Holly wood producers will go with whoever they believe will make the most money at the box office. Any other actor, and the film will be produced by Alan Smithee and the franchise will die.

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By *entadreadMan
over a year ago

Essex

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

So what’s people take on James Bond being played by a Gay Actor or a TV/TS? "

Have we finished the black thing??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

So what’s people take on James Bond being played by a Gay Actor or a TV/TS?

Have we finished the black thing??

Apologies, I’ll post a second forum shortly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gotta be better than Daniel Craig!

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Oh man, you know what - I'd never even thought of it before You mentioned it, but now you have - I totally would.

I'm sorry, you're wrong; Peter Dinklage would be a fucking GREAT Bond!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

He's also a total creation of fiction who in his recent incarnations bears no resemblance to Fleming's character.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love Idris Elba, sublime actor and thought he gave a career defining performance in “The Long Walk To Freedom”. However, I think that _edefining the James Bond character would be akin to saying that a white actor (with no race altering make up or CGI) could play Othello. Personally I think Bond films are shit, never enjoyed any of them and they are beneath this great actor.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

he is described in the book

Same difference really."

The Bond in the books is not very much like the film Bond at all. He smokes like a chimney and is pretty homophobic, to name just two things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Such a debate leaves us all some what stir_ed, but not shaken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

This is so dumb. Dogs and cats are different animals, white people and people of colour are not different species

ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brooke Bond?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave last week when the whole ‘Idris Elba as James Bond’ was debated (copied and pasted below)

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I think Idris is a fantastic actor and I must admit a little bit of wee came out when I heard that Luther was coming back!

However Bond has a documented back story that suggests his heritage is Caucasian, so casting an actor of a different ethnicity effective rewrites that backstory.

Exactly my point which unsurprisingly nobody has answe_ed.

If white people can play ethnic roles in films such as Aloha & A Might Heart, why can’t James Bond be another race?

Its an interesting point, I couldnt care less who plays Bond, franchise needs a shake up anyway and if Stringer Bell if free then get him.

But how do we feel about roles being whitewashed in general and then should be have the same standards for traditionally white characters.

Casting doesnt worry me I thunk you get the best person for the job..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Such a debate leaves us all some what stir_ed, but not shaken."

Haha

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I still think it's kinda laughable there's all this hoohaa around it.

Nobody has really kicked off about Jesus being portrayed as a white guy since forever, and that's one of the biggest franchises going...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white"

You do realised the comparison you used makes it sound like you think black people are a different species from while people.

Race is a social constructions. Biologically we are all the one race, humans.

To keep going with your analogy, it’s basic saying lassie is a Labrador: should we get a blonde or brown hai_ed Labrador to play lassie?

As long as they actor gets it on merit then am happy. I think Idris would be an amazing bond. But I wonder by the time the part comes around he might be a bit old. If he got a 3 or 4 film deal, we would well be into his 60’s for the last film.

Tom hardy is probably my bet. Or that guy, Rob from G.O.T / the prince in Cinderella.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope. Just like lassie wouldnt work as a cat. Its got nothing to with idris being black hes a great actor but the fact that james bond is white

You do realised the comparison you used makes it sound like you think black people are a different species from while people.

Race is a social constructions. Biologically we are all the one race, humans.

To keep going with your analogy, it’s basic saying lassie is a Labrador: should we get a blonde or brown hai_ed Labrador to play lassie?

Tom hardy is probably my bet. Or that guy, Rob from G.O.T / the prince in Cinderella. "

Ffs lassie is a collie and of they cast a lab then thats some PC bullsh*t I will not support it

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Let's face it, there'd be outrage if a film were made about Dr King for instance, and it was suggested Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt was to play him.

Laurence Olivier played Othello, and there are many other instances of white actors playing non white characters.

I can't think of any middle Eastern or black actors ever playing Jesus Christ for example in a major production.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I still think it's kinda laughable there's all this hoohaa around it.

Nobody has really kicked off about Jesus being portrayed as a white guy since forever, and that's one of the biggest franchises going..."

Touche! Why are my best observations always observed first by others?!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

" do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "
No, the next Bond doesn't NEED to be black.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just feel they’ve made enough James bonds and should retire him.

Maybe a 008 would give scope for a woman perhaps?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Need? No, whoever breaths new life into the character best gets the role surely

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By *verready32Man
over a year ago

omagh

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

In short no, he does not need to be black...he just needs to be a good actor.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues. "

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books."

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

This thread reminds me of the controversy that surrounded female newscasters presenting the main news (rather than the 'lighter' lunchtime and afternoon bulletins), more recently there was a mild uproar when Jacqui Oatley commentated on a football match.

It's all now fairly mainstream and nobody bats an eyelid.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black "

Why is that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?"

Because Eton was, is and always will be a bastion of racism

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?"

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Because Eton was, is and always will be a bastion of racism"

That doesn't quite answer my question, black African kings and dictators have long associated Eton as the pinnacle of academic (and social) excellence for their male offspring.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Because Eton was, is and always will be a bastion of racism

That doesn't quite answer my question, black African kings and dictators have long associated Eton as the pinnacle of academic (and social) excellence for their male offspring."

Yup, first black pupil was the son of the Nigerian Prime Minister in 1964. James bond was 44 then.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school "

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts."

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

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over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Because Eton was, is and always will be a bastion of racism

That doesn't quite answer my question, black African kings and dictators have long associated Eton as the pinnacle of academic (and social) excellence for their male offspring."

Let me rephrase then....Eton was, is and always will be a bastion of prejudice. The University of Alabama was viewed as the pinnacle of academic and social excellence in that particular State and they only accepted black students at the end of the National Guards rifles. Just because they let you in does not equate to acceptance into “their” world

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past "

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

The producers will do what's requi_ed to maximise bums on seats, Elba is currently an A list cinema attraction, today's new Bond audience isn't interested in Fleming's original narrative, the film's bear little resemblance to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black? "

Not racist, but I'm not sure it will work as a black guy ? Having said that, I would be happy to watch. It is not a judgement of acting ability.

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By *horecruxCouple
over a year ago

SE4

Only if we get a James wong after

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

That's a fair point really. I can't actually think of a franchise that didn't eventually deviate so far from its origins that I tuned out long before the end. There probably is something in the commercial pressures that make it inevitable.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

It hasn't deviated much at all.casino royals was only few years ago,based on the original book

The essence of bond has stayed the same,you only have to look at the controversy over Craig being a blonde Bond

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

It hasn't deviated much at all.casino royals was only few years ago,based on the original book

The essence of bond has stayed the same,you only have to look at the controversy over Craig being a blonde Bond"

Changing his childhood would be a pretty big diversion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still think it's kinda laughable there's all this hoohaa around it.

Nobody has really kicked off about Jesus being portrayed as a white guy since forever, and that's one of the biggest franchises going..."

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I still think it's kinda laughable there's all this hoohaa around it.

Nobody has really kicked off about Jesus being portrayed as a white guy since forever, and that's one of the biggest franchises going...

Not true at all. It's very common to mock people who believe in a blonde hair, blue eyes Jesus. Especially fun when you find Christians who aren't aware what language he spoke.

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By *layfulfoxMan
over a year ago

nowhere

It's doesn't worry me either way, surely the best person for the role at the time is offe_ed it.

That said, could you see Disney recreating their movies and having a black Belle, Aurora or Cinderella or a White Pocahontas or Tiana or reinventing Mufasa as a butterfly?

The characters are there as they are invented by their creator.

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

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By *layfulfoxMan
over a year ago

nowhere

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too."

I did also think this, imagine that!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too."

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Crikey if we apply that to Lord of the rings. Gandalf is knocking 2200 years give or take.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx"

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Crikey if we apply that to Lord of the rings. Gandalf is knocking 2200 years give or take."

But it's set in another realm not present day like bond, so it's moot. Plus he's a blooming wizard

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

Lady erection here if the magnums a dark chocolate raspberry one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

See, already the making of a good movie

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

Lady erection here if the magnums a dark chocolate raspberry one

Magnum is a gun.. you pervert!

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

Lady erection here if the magnums a dark chocolate raspberry one

Magnum is a gun.. you pervert! "

I know , I just prefer ice cream

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

See, already the making of a good movie

Yeah porn movie

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

Lady erection here if the magnums a dark chocolate raspberry one

Magnum is a gun.. you pervert!

I know , I just prefer ice cream "

Always thinking about food!

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

Lady erection here if the magnums a dark chocolate raspberry one

Magnum is a gun.. you pervert!

I know , I just prefer ice cream

Always thinking about food!

You don't get a body like this from salad honey x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

Scarlett Johansson would smash this role

"The names Bond 'Jayne' Bond"

Jo.Xxx

She drives a mustang, owns a magnum & she’s bisexual... erection

See, already the making of a good movie

Yeah porn movie

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

It hasn't deviated much at all.casino royals was only few years ago,based on the original book

The essence of bond has stayed the same,you only have to look at the controversy over Craig being a blonde Bond"

..and Craig's been an excellent Bond, the controversy largely long forgotten.

As others have said it's perfectly reasonable for fictional characters to reflect contemporary society (as the Bond franchise has done), the film's are competing with a range of offers in the action/thriller genre, which have to be relevant to attract a younger audience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who really gives a shit what Bond looks like or what his/her sexuality gender is? It's just a formulaic movie franchise that makes Hollywood a lot of money, pandering to the crowd who want to see action, gadgets and Bond getting the "girl". There are plenty more in this genre - Bond is just a name from fictitious novels, you could call the character anything and make them any gender. If people want to pay to see it, they will. you might as well give Whoopi Goldberg the role, completely fuck up the franchise, then start it again in a few decades time when people won't give so much of a shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too."

But it just wouldn't be Bond? Make another film with a female actor? Why does we have to change an iconic character just for the sake of it? Shall we change Bridgette Jones diary to a bloke with a dad bod, desperately trying to get paid on FAB, and just say oh who cares it was a female character?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If we are sticking to the books timeline he was 35 ish in 1953 so he'd be 100 now. So maybe people should just go with it as a changing character keeping the 007 name over the years.

Idris Alba would be a brilliant bond. A female bond would be a good twist too.

I’d love to watch secret diary of a call girl being played by a black actress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lets have another remake of the Italian Job , in Russia with Ladas , nope doesn’t work . Just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Lets have another remake of the Italian Job , in Russia with Ladas , nope doesn’t work . Just my opinion "

Featuring Pussy Riot

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!"

Samuel Jackson?

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over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

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over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?"

With.. who is your choice?

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over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

With.. who is your choice? "

Somethings are best left alone , I mean would a gay Batman & Robin film work ? For crying out loud

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over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

With.. who is your choice?

Somethings are best left alone , I mean would a gay Batman & Robin film work ? For crying out loud "

I vote for Ronnie Chang

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Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

With.. who is your choice?

Somethings are best left alone , I mean would a gay Batman & Robin film work ? For crying out loud

I vote for Ronnie Chang "

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over a year ago

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By *iamond coupleCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman.

Black women? "
a black gay woman????

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

Jesus, that's theatrical barrel scraping!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

Jesus, that's theatrical barrel scraping!

Who’s your preference then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Mahershala Ali Will make a perfect bond. He’s a great actor

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

Jesus, that's theatrical barrel scraping!

Who’s your preference then?

Dominic West, great actor, good looking and a real Etonian!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fairness to the OP, I think Idris Elba could make a good Bond, but more to the point it's refreshing to see a black person raising it, as opposed to white people doing it to prove how diverse they are and fighting for those who apparently can't speak up for themselves. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

With.. who is your choice?

Somethings are best left alone , I mean would a gay Batman & Robin film work ? For crying out loud "

I thought Batman and Robin were a couple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and I wouldn't watch it if he was. Too many story continuity issues.

In fairness the films haven't followed the order of the books.

He couldn't have gone to Eton when he was a child if he was black

Why is that?

Eton didn't have black pupils then, the first was decades after bond would have finished school

Bond isnt a historical piece, in Fleming's day they didn't have amphibious Lotuses, space travel or rocket belts.

You don't get the same problems taking him forward as you do maintaining existing stories whilst changing the past

I don't see any problem taking the character forward as a black, female or gay actor, provided the content is entertaining.

I think that's mainly my point, Elba will get punters through the door, partly due to his fame, partly due to the novelty factor.

He's an ok actor but if the producers wanted a black actor I can think of far better ones!

Samuel Jackson?

With the swearing or without?

With.. who is your choice?

Somethings are best left alone , I mean would a gay Batman & Robin film work ? For crying out loud

I thought Batman and Robin were a couple.

And there’s me thinking they’re just good mates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, Bond doesn't NEED to be black, TV, gay, a cross-dresser or anything else other than what he is. Sophisticated, suave, ruthless, fit as fuck and a man!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm thinking Chinese.

How do you like your noodles Mr.Wong...... ? Steamed or Fried ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm thinking Chinese.

How do you like your noodles Mr.Wong...... ? Steamed or Fried ?"

That is so wong

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I'm thinking Chinese.

How do you like your noodles Mr.Wong...... ? Steamed or Fried ?"

The Chinese are quite capable of making their own franchises, they don't need to hijack other peoples. They haven't run out of original ideas in Asia.

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By *idlandiaMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman.

Black women? a black gay woman????"
who teams up with white shaft!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman.

Black women? a black gay woman???? who teams up with white shaft! "

Erection

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By *lanPartridgeMan
over a year ago

nottingham

Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great."

I think bond has to be British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

I think bond has to be British "

Like George Lazenby ?

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over a year ago

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

I think bond has to be British

Like George Lazenby ?"

Shhh if we forget he existed he will disapear

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

I think bond has to be British

Like George Lazenby ?"

I meant Riz Ahmed from four lions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bond has the rank of Commander in the RN, an Officer. As much as I love his work, Idris doesn’t come across as typically Officer material, so I don’t think it’d be a good fit. Unfortunately.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

In my humble opinion, colour doesn't matter but should be male and British.

George Lazenby was an anomally that should never be repeated...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither does Craig. In his debut as Bond, he was basically an ambitious thug.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"He is a literary character that is well described in many books,down to the way he likes his drink,and he's white

Bond is a bit special to me like with a lot of ppl having grown up with him

Why should it be changed to a black guy should be the question not why not"

If Bond was that ‘special’ to you, you’d know that the Bond of the film’s is so far removed from the Bond of the books, changing the colour of his skin is the least of the problems.

But, by all means, continue to hide your racism behind your pseudo literary integrity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh man, you know what - I'd never even thought of it before You mentioned it, but now you have - I totally would.

I'm sorry, you're wrong; Peter Dinklage would be a fucking GREAT Bond!

Hell yeah he'd be awesome!!

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

IdrisElba is perfect for a couple of films age is going against him though

Long term

Kit Harrington

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could Winnie The Pooh be played by a Panda?"

If he's a good actor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bond has the rank of Commander in the RN, an Officer. As much as I love his work, Idris doesn’t come across as typically Officer material, so I don’t think it’d be a good fit. Unfortunately.

The father of my niece and nephew is one but you would never guess it. He’s a bit of a goofball.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

It's very interesting how people seem to suddenly need a film to be exactly true to the book when a white character could be played by a black man.

I take It, given your level of pedantry, you were equally outraged that Tom Bombadil was left out of the Lord of the Rings films?

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Bond has the rank of Commander in the RN, an Officer. As much as I love his work, Idris doesn’t come across as typically Officer material, so I don’t think it’d be a good fit. Unfortunately.

Elba's an actor, Bond's a work of fiction-constantly being refreshed to reflect the times.

In Fleming's day there were no black Commanders in the navy, there were no (openly) gay officers, or female ones.

The modern military reflects all these groups so it's perfectly acceptable that the Bond of 2020 is a contemporary creation, otherwise the film loses c_edibility and the interest of modern audiences, the majority of whom have no idea who Fleming was or why such a controversy should exist over something they regard as perfectly normal.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

"It's doesn't worry me either way, surely the best person for the role at the time is offe_ed it.

That said, could you see Disney recreating their movies and having a black Belle, Aurora or Cinderella or a White Pocahontas or Tiana or reinventing Mufasa as a butterfly?

The characters are there as they are invented by their creator."

I couldn’t see a white Pocahontas, because she’s a real person. But, for the others, why not? Is Cinderella’s ethnicity important to her character or story? You do know about the casting of Hermione in Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, don’t you? And JK Rowling’s view on it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shaft

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bond has the rank of Commander in the RN, an Officer. As much as I love his work, Idris doesn’t come across as typically Officer material, so I don’t think it’d be a good fit. Unfortunately.

Elba's an actor, Bond's a work of fiction-constantly being refreshed to reflect the times.

In Fleming's day there were no black Commanders in the navy, there were no (openly) gay officers, or female ones.

And that's the best response I've seen on the thread.

Hasn't accused anyone of being racist for having an opinion, hasn't tried to be the white crusader for those who obviously can't speak for themselves and provided food for thought.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

I think bond has to be British

Like George Lazenby ?"

...Pierce Brosnan, Irish and the best Bond of them all Sean Connery's a Scottish Nationalist!

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Shaft "

Can you dig it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, he doesn’t need to be black.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bond is always a leftfield casting. I think Michael Fassbender would be great.

I think bond has to be British

Like George Lazenby ?

...Pierce Brosnan, Irish and the best Bond of them all Sean Connery's a Scottish Nationalist!"

Connery is the best bond

Brosnan is second best

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By *edMan
over a year ago

cambridgeshire

"Considering Daniel Craig has hanged his towel.. do you feel that next James Bond need to be black?

No. The next James Bond needs to be a woman. "

That'd save a bit on the budget too ..

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester

Tom Hiddleston Loki in the avengers films I’d have as bond

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Why can't SJWs just start their own franchises that nobody will watch? Why do they always have to ruin ones with existing success like they did Ghostbusters?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can’t dinosaurs still roam free? Boo hoo.

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