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"I'm torn between helping by doing something and helping by not doing something " You could try giving one an apple and if you feel good it’s all good | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. " And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . | |||
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"I'm torn between helping by doing something and helping by not doing something " How does not doing anything help ? | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction ." It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street. | |||
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"So do you do it so you get to feel good ? Or because you really think it helps ? " Yes to feel good and as well to help out, this guy dont beg or anything, like others do. I can really see he needs abit of help, so few times a month I give him few things. | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street. " Yeah because when you give a junkie cash you don’t just support his habit, you are supporting organised crime and in this day and age with where a lot of the herroine comes from terrorism. Also your giving cash to the same guy or girl who will commit robberies, burglary, shoplifting and happily supply drugs themselves. Not to mention how they litter with drug paraphernalia. You know shaps, like the retards up hanky who put them on shop shutters and door handles. | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . It’s why I fund CRISIS rather than give cash on the streets - if people really want to help then (imho anyway) fund the soup kitchens, shelters and support centres rather than give direct cash on the street. Yeah because when you give a junkie cash you don’t just support his habit, you are supporting organised crime and in this day and age with where a lot of the herroine comes from terrorism. Also your giving cash to the same guy or girl who will commit robberies, burglary, shoplifting and happily supply drugs themselves. Not to mention how they litter with drug paraphernalia. You know shaps, like the retards up hanky who put them on shop shutters and door handles. " Is it just me or is my spell check mugging me off? | |||
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"It meant to say an energy drink and a apple in my opening post." That's good, we all know how much concentration amd alterness being homeless requires | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. " Sadly this is true, there are many places where so called homeless people can go, but they get kicked out because of their dependency, it can become a vicious circle sometimes | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. " But not all homeless people are beggars or drink and drug dependant. There's a lot of painting with a very broad brush that goes on in these forums at times. | |||
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"Sometimes we just let our prejudices run away with us and assume that all homeless are the same. Like the crash of us they are people, each one unique, each with their own story of how they became that way. Instead of sweeping generalisations like some posts on this thread maybe we should remember that. Most of us are only 2 pay slips away from being in their shoes. The "official figures" say there are 5000 rough sleepers in The UK. It's understating the problem. One in 200 families in the UK are homeless, sofa surfing, in hostels, b&b or other crap temporary accommodation. In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? " | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction ." I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction. I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I? That's the only thing I have to consider. | |||
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"Sometimes we just let our prejudices run away with us and assume that all homeless are the same. Like the crash of us they are people, each one unique, each with their own story of how they became that way. Instead of sweeping generalisations like some posts on this thread maybe we should remember that. Most of us are only 2 pay slips away from being in their shoes. The "official figures" say there are 5000 rough sleepers in The UK. It's understating the problem. One in 200 families in the UK are homeless, sofa surfing, in hostels, b&b or other crap temporary accommodation. In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? " 5 years ago, there were only 3 street homeless people left in Leicester, 2 of whom had been on the streets for so long, they had no wish to be housed any longer. That figure is now up at over 30! | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction. I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I? That's the only thing I have to consider." That's about the long and the short of it. | |||
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"I generally give most homeless people I see a quid or two, when the weather was really cold in the winter I bought a few coffees, I sometimes by food and I have dished out the odd tenner or £20 here and there. And if they want to spend it on drink and drugs, you know what - I'm fine with that. It's their money now, I gave it to them unconditionally. If I was in their position, I'd probably spend it on drugs too. I mean - they live on the street; what the fuck else are they gonna spend it on, scatter cushions and soft furnishings? " Food? | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? " If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. " There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. | |||
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"Most beggars aren’t homeless, they are drink or drug dependant. And there’s the dilemma ... Are we really helping by giving them anything , or do we do it to feel better ourselves ? One thing for sure is that giving money is not the answer , unless we want to fund their addiction . I don't worry about whether i'm funding their addiction. I have a choice to make when I come across a person who wants me to give, that choice is always ..... do I give or don't I? That's the only thing I have to consider." If they buy drugs with the money you give them , and get a bad fix or overdose , do you still figure that’s all you have to worry about ? That’s a serious question , and is the main reason I don’t give money to them . I guess you could argue that it’s their choice and no fault of yours for supplying the money . And I would understand that , but does it not worry you at all ? | |||
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"I'm torn between helping by doing something and helping by not doing something " Not doing something is not helping. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. " It should. All the figures are from official government stays. We are the 5th richest country in the world. Why the fuck are so many people in such a crap place. Those unoccupied properties they are owned by people and companies. They are nor the answer unless you think the state has the right to simply take what you may own away from you! | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome." Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. | |||
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"Who else does it? I do it sometimes. I gave a and a apple today, it feels really good when you do it." Do you never share your Haribos with them? | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country." Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. " I’ve no doubt you do. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless " You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do." Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 | |||
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation. I'm not going to judge them for it" Totally agree. Drink and drugs would be a welcome respite from being on the streets | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless " And I'm on your side for fuck's sake, how aggressive do you get with people that really disagree with you? | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome." . I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years." And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 " I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis" My daughter lived in Manchester until quite recently and all the homeless people we had dealings with were pleasant enough, given their circumstances! | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis" Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant." I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. " Yes, because you read minds too. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. " . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. " I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment." You know this how? | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you." . It is awful your right! | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out?" Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment." You want to bring back Bedlam. There's a progressive idea | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?" . Life experience! | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You want to bring back Bedlam. There's a progressive idea " . I don't call it progression so far, do you? | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting. " Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand. I'm way too long in the tooth for white-knighting. I just get annoyed at blanket statements and bullshit on threads like this and the National Service one. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience!" So I could just make up a counter-claim and if it's challenged just put it down to 'life experience'. Wow, research has changed a lot in the last few years. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re " . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years. " Are you white-knighting me now? | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! So I could just make up a counter-claim and if it's challenged just put it down to 'life experience'. Wow, research has changed a lot in the last few years." . Sure, let's hear it? | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?." You misunderstand what the word means then. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting. Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand. I'm way too long in the tooth for white-knighting. I just get annoyed at blanket statements and bullshit on threads like this and the National Service one. Oh so you get angry at opinions that don’t match your own? Do we have to conform?" Not at all, I just expect people to at least do a tiny bit of research before throwing out bullshit that they can't back up. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years. Are you white-knighting me now?" Nope. Was saying I didn’t need it. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Ah but you didn’t. You are however white knighting. Not at all, just pointing out that there was no way anyone could know you have learning difficulties in a public forum unless you warned them beforehand. I'm way too long in the tooth for white-knighting. I just get annoyed at blanket statements and bullshit on threads like this and the National Service one. Oh so you get angry at opinions that don’t match your own? Do we have to conform? Not at all, I just expect people to at least do a tiny bit of research before throwing out bullshit that they can't back up." Oh ok. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome. Yeah but I find smack heads begging for money and saying god bless you and being all creepy till you say no, then they get abusive quite irksome. I’ve no doubt you do. Wait for them to all be on monkey and mamba down there like the majority of them seam to be up here. A psychoactive and formerly legal high, a formerly legal high you smoke and butane out the yellow can are the 3 they like to sit around and tank here. What with heroine at £10 and monkey being only £2 I’m fully aware of novel psychoactive substances. It’s heroin, the other one is the female protagonist of a story. Apologies, I’m a pedant. I’m never going to forgive your pedantry because you do it to feel superior to some one with learning difficulties, so that makes you a bully. I'm dyslexic, would I have been a bully had I pointed it out? Please don’t expect there not to have already been a myriad of assumptions being made by DarkAngel as was. He’s been around for years. Are you white-knighting me now? Nope. Was saying I didn’t need it. " Don't worry, as I said, I wouldn't anyway. It's not like both of us haven't been in exactly the same position on these forums before anyway. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience!" Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. " . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the " You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. " She may have empathy. That’s understanding feelings, it doesn’t mean she’s nice. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!" T I E | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!" I kind of wish you were wrong. But then bigotry small minded self seeking opinions based on personal prejudices get a lot of airtime in the forums. And it's just so easy to stereotype those who are less able to cope with modern society than address the reasons why... | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the " . Well I've yet to find anybody in my own life experience that's reasonable in they're behaviour that the council didn't house, yes maybe not instantly but within a short period, I have however meet shit loads of people that's been housed and then been kicked out for awful behaviour (mostly mental issues) like I said. I really honestly think the majority of them would be better off being housed in an institution where they could be watched and get treatment (this probably doesn't happen because it's the expensive option) | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed!" I was told by my local shelter that M and S wont donate food, they would rather bin it. Because they are worried it will ' devalue' their brand. At the same time, they were claiming to give 20p to Shelter, the homeless organisation, for every sandwich sold. Thats seriously screwed! | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E " ? | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ?" This is England | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England " Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. " I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty. I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself. Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken. I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken?" Maybe not irreparably broken would of been better. And I’m optimistic | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty. I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. " . Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure. The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure. Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments?" Maybe you’d like to relate my life experiences to the forum and how I could extend them to meet with you’re very important approval? | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty. I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. . Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!." Except you’re wrong. Again. But that’s okay too. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself. Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken. I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken? Maybe not irreparably broken would of been better. And I’m optimistic " Tell that to a kid who's most likely been the victim of psychological, violent or sexual abuse (just the one if he/she is lucky, usually all three), doesn't trust adults as far as they can throw them and have often committed horrible crimes to escape their personal circumstances. It's a bit more difficult to be so glib about the whole thing then. Oh, and they're probably your future homeless population too, given that society at large doesn't give a shit about them. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure. The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure. Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments? Maybe you’d like to relate my life experiences to the forum and how I could extend them to meet with you’re very important approval? " Your! And it's a kind offer but one I will decline thank you. Your life experience is clearly far more in tune with your reality than letting the facts get in the way of your opinions. And I've never really been that important. So my approval is probably unnecessary. | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Indeed it is. The 1 in 200 homeless families is a UK wide figure. The 5000+ underestimate of rough sleepers is a UK wide figure. Perhaps you may wish to extend your life experience a little further before resorting to banal comments? Maybe you’d like to relate my life experiences to the forum and how I could extend them to meet with you’re very important approval? Your! And it's a kind offer but one I will decline thank you. Your life experience is clearly far more in tune with your reality than letting the facts get in the way of your opinions. And I've never really been that important. So my approval is probably unnecessary. " I’m sensing a napoleon kinda personality here. | |||
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"I work in this field and it never ceases to amaze me at the continual stereotyping that gets trotted out on these threads. Irksome.. I don't work in this field I can only speak about the ones who ask me for money in Manchester, there nearly all 100% off their tits on spice and/or aggressive on alcohol as well. I'm sure there's some "nice" homeless people in Manchester as well but there not the ones I see on a daily basis Yep. I’m sorry they’re not nice to you, how awful for you.. It is awful your right! You’re . I'm starting to think your not as empathetic as you like to say you are?. You misunderstand what the word means then. . No I just think your like everybody else who turns mean and nasty when somebody says something they don't like, at least with the others they don't pretend to be an empathetic angel?. I’m not sure you understand the words mean and nasty if you think that my finding something irksome is mean and nasty. I’m sorry I’ve offended you and that you’ve felt the need to get personal at me. . Don't worry I wasn't offend, I was simply commenting on your obvious need to correct my grammar which if we're being honest I suspect is nothing to do with what "irks" you and everything to do with you wanting to be mean and nasty because you didn't like my opinion? That's ok, we all do it at times, it's human!. Except you’re wrong. Again. But that’s okay too. " . Ok, well all's well that ends well. Goodnight | |||
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"In Scotland alone one extra family is made homeless every 17 minutes of every day. Do I help them? Not nearly enough! Do any of us? If that is true, then society in general should have a long hard look at it'self. There must be plenty of unoccupied properties up there as there are in every City throughout the UK. There are about 7 unoccupied/sometimes uninhabitable homes for every homeless prison in the country. Complete bollucks. Rough sleepers are not the only homeless people. One in 200 families in this country are effectively homeless You got any better figures? There were over 200,000 homes in this country that had been empty for over 6 months in January this year. 11,000 of this had been empty for over 10 years. And all are owned by someone. You going to remove those persons ownership rights? And sadly no I don't have any better figures. The problem is getting worse. Btw there is a population of around 65Million and around 40 million families in the UK. . And 25 million houses, were not short of housing!. Most of these people are homeless because they've acted like complete tits in the housing they had and been thrown out, sure there's a small percentage that fall through the net but to say all the homeless people in Manchester has anything to do with the amount of housing is ludicrous, it's they're behaviour that gets them kicked out of every house they've had or been offered. Most of them have serious mental issues from what I can see and I'd rather spend money on some institutions where they can be housed and get treatment. You know this how?. Life experience! Then perhaps you need to expand on your life experience. A significant number if those homeless people are not "kicked out because of their behaviour". More often they are evicted by landlords seeking to maximise their return on investment. Those who are mentally ill or have addiction issues....are they too human. The system fails them day after day.... Where is the You're feeling the love of a society that would rather feed on relative deprivation than look at the root causes of why the world they live in is so screwed! T I E ? This is England Sadly, that's very true, but I'm sure you're proud of yourself. Erm is there some reason I shouldn’t be? Regarding charity I tend to give to children’s charities because I’m of the opinion that you can make a difference there. Adults are already broken. I work with children in prison, what makes you think they're not already broken? Maybe not irreparably broken would of been better. And I’m optimistic Tell that to a kid who's most likely been the victim of psychological, violent or sexual abuse (just the one if he/she is lucky, usually all three), doesn't trust adults as far as they can throw them and have often committed horrible crimes to escape their personal circumstances. It's a bit more difficult to be so glib about the whole thing then. Oh, and they're probably your future homeless population too, given that society at large doesn't give a shit about them." Hmmm. So you work with them for why? Oh I was in HmP Stoke Heath for nearly 2 years. But I haven’t committed a criminal act since I was a teenager. Maybe you should ask Estell to hook you up with DarkAngel. I don’t think he’s got convictions. But if he was deffinatly sexually and pysically abused. | |||
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation. I'm not going to judge them for it Why not be more responsible and give them drugs directly then? At least you could make sure they get good quality ones and not the nasty cut up shit. " I don't know where to get good shit anymore. | |||
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"I totally get why drugs would be preferential to food in their situation. I'm not going to judge them for it Why not be more responsible and give them drugs directly then? At least you could make sure they get good quality ones and not the nasty cut up shit. I don't know where to get good shit anymore. " Jay should know someone. He's well connected. | |||
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