FabSwingers.com forum: Is petrol by BP/ESSO etc better for your car than supermarket Petrol?

By *UNCHBOX OP Man
over a year ago

folkestone

I was talking to someone i work with today, and he said he wont put supermarket petrol in his car because he thinks the branded petrol does less damage to his engine. Does anyone know if this is true?.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Made a right mess of my seat covers last time i put petrol in the car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

have to admit ive heard that too, and i also stick to esso/bp but that could have been a _umour started by the big conglomerates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have heard this before, but the guy that said it was so anti...supermarkets I ignored him...So to answer your question....I don't know !!...lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

doesnt it all come from the same place just branded differently??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Petrol heads will tell you branded fuels are cleaner and therefore, better for the engines than generic ones from supermarkets.

Whether it is true or not I do not know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"doesnt it all come from the same place just branded differently??"

Yes, Tesco don't own any oil refineries, I've used their fuel for 15 odd years now, no problems so far.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Is it not like the high end and value stuff in supermarkets... Same product but different packaging?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I run a petrol and diesel cars on supermarket fuel from Morrison's and Tesco. I am told the engine management systems automatically adjust to suit the fuel. Over 10 years I have had no issues at service intervals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing."

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was talking to someone i work with today, and he said he wont put supermarket petrol in his car because he thinks the branded petrol does less damage to his engine. Does anyone know if this is true?. "

The fuel is of the same octane but the additives can be different. I have heard the same in the past and heard _umours but there is no definitive proof and some say its a cynical lie put out by companies who charge more for fuel.

I look on it like this. We have yet to see anyone sue a supermarket for damage to a car. Now if there was any real evidence the no win no fee shysters would be in on the act suing the shit out of Tesco’s, Asda etc. I have a Evo FQ-360 and put both in mine. Its more important not to run the dregs of your tank through the injectors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I remember a few months a guy seeing a BP tanker at our local Asda so I think all the major supermarkets get there fulel from the big boys anyway

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

For non-high performance cars supermarket fuel is fine.

As already mentioned, it doesn't contain the same additives as branded fuels, but it comes from the same refineries.

There was a case a few years back where some batches of Morrisson's petrol were thought to be dodgy... I'll see if I can find the details again.

I use Asda petrol in my Lexus 90% of the time. Occasionally I'll use Shell, but even then I don't go for Optimax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I remember a few months a guy seeing a BP tanker at our local Asda so I think all the major supermarkets get there fulel from the big boys anyway"

That doesn't mean a lot because they may be delivering but its not always what they deliver to the BP stations.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Ah Evo...like shit off a shovel, perhaps you would be better suing the shit out of Tesco's?

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Ah Evo...like shit off a shovel, perhaps you would be better suing the shit out of Tesco's?"

Don't forget the FQ-360 bit.....

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At one time (not sure if the same applies now) ASDA petrol was delivered in BP tankers.

I've no reason to imagine that the petrol flogged by the supermarkets is any different to what you'd get from a normal filling station - only it's a couple of pence per litre cheaper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah Evo...like shit off a shovel, perhaps you would be better suing the shit out of Tesco's?

Don't forget the FQ-360 bit....."

You got it lemon lips

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Having read a couple of car owners' forums, there was a consensus amongst owners who had conducted trials ( limited sample maybe ) that branded fuels with the additional additives DID result in better performance and slightly increased fuel efficiency eg say upto 46mph from 43-44 previously.

So, maybe cost effective at around £1.40 a litre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Ah Evo...like shit off a shovel, perhaps you would be better suing the shit out of Tesco's?

Don't forget the FQ-360 bit.....

You got it lemon lips

Does 360 represent donutting?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant"

Oh a bit of wd40

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By *ercedes62Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

I use the Esso fuel in my sports car as its the higher octane and i find the fuel economy better which is all to do with the ant-knock properties

Always been told its cleaner fuel but dont know for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant

Oh a bit of wd40

Nooooooooo, that stings.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant

Oh a bit of wd40

Nooooooooo, that stings."

Oh you tried it?

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant

Oh a bit of wd40

Nooooooooo, that stings."

I think you're not using that wee straw that comes with it correctly!

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

"I use the Esso fuel in my sports car as its the higher octane and i find the fuel economy better which is all to do with the ant-knock properties

Always been told its cleaner fuel but dont know for sure.

The cleaner fuel is a banana or two and yer bicycle.

Can't beat a good bi cycle (apparently, so i'm told.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless you're running a Ferrari, Lambo etc. Standard fuel is fine.

Correct service intervals is the main thing.

Ohhh regular servicing is always good it keeps the engine ticking over and the va va voom...

Yes, as long as you warm it correctly it can go on for ages.

Yes of course.. A bit of anti freeze...

and the correct lubricant

Oh a bit of wd40

Nooooooooo, that stings.

Oh you tried it?

Lets not go there, all I can say is, always wear the correct clothing.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

I detect a cunning plan in Cushy's thinking. By the time he's warmed it up, run it in he'll be trading it in for a newer model.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I detect a cunning plan in Cushy's thinking. By the time he's warmed it up, run it in he'll be trading it in for a newer model.

I just spat out my coffee...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as an ex mechanic of 18years i asure u al petrol is petrol full stop regular health checks and adjustments is the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I run a Porsche Boxster 3.2S on Supermarket Fuel. The car adjusts itself automatically to the fuel. I have checked and although Porsche recommend a branded fuel they say that with regular servicing it makes no difference.

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By *ytraCouple
over a year ago

Wrexham

TBH our car runs a lot better and is a lot more economical when we use shell or total fuels, the supermarket fuel and BP fuel just seems to run straight through, we can easily get an extra 10 -15 mpg using shell (good thing is shell by us is the same price as tesco)

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

I don't know why i'm posting anyway , mine is diesel

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By *ercedes62Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

"I run a Porsche Boxster 3.2S on Supermarket Fuel. The car adjusts itself automatically to the fuel. I have checked and although Porsche recommend a branded fuel they say that with regular servicing it makes no difference."

I get better economy from a 3.5L on the esso higher octane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest, I have never had a problem with supermarket petrol though I did once use a place I had not gone to before and it really showed that it was crap, not sure what it was but they filter their petrol through sand

A work colleague was once got his car repaired courtesy of Tesco's following a bad batch that wrecked his engine but Ive used them and never had a problem

Currently I use a Tesco's express I think it is that was a BP garage, no problems at all

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"TBH our car runs a lot better and is a lot more economical when we use shell or total fuels, the supermarket fuel and BP fuel just seems to run straight through, we can easily get an extra 10 -15 mpg using shell (good thing is shell by us is the same price as tesco)"

I think if ANY fuel company could promise an extra 10-15 mpg if you used their fuel...NO-ONE would use anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Blimey with all this talk of regular servicing and lubricant !! I'm coming over all unnecessary...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, its a defo..... i use shell vpower high octane, not sure it makes the car go any faster, but i think my mpg is slightly up on the supermarket fuel.

Follow a car using cheapo petrol....they smell like old mens farts.

checkout... honesjohn.co.uk

For info on petrol & loads more useful info to do with cars... parking fines, best buy cars, diesel or petrol... a cracking petrolhead site.

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By *ytraCouple
over a year ago

Wrexham

I think if ANY fuel company could promise an extra 10-15 mpg if you used their fuel...NO-ONE would use anything else.

As far as i am aware they dont promise the extra, it is just that our car for some reason seems to love shell fuel and we genuinely do see a vast improvement in economy, next time we fill i will have to work it out properly, thinking about it i have over estimated it and it is about 7-10mpg better off (i think)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if ANY fuel company could promise an extra 10-15 mpg if you used their fuel...NO-ONE would use anything else.

I tend to agree with that statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to only use shell fuel and tesco fuel no probs, then i moved and the closest place was a BP, i now go further for my fuel because there has been nothing but "dodgy batches" of fuel at the BP near me since i moved hear, damn near killed my bike and almost had me hit up the arse by an artic on the M11. so i would say as i have had no problems with tesco or shell but nothing but problems with bp.. that bp are shit go anywhere else! lol ( not to mention poor customer service)

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

I think if ANY fuel company could promise an extra 10-15 mpg if you used their fuel...NO-ONE would use anything else.

I tend to agree with that statement

I need to find this place quickly. I only get about 24mpg outta my car. I'd love to get nearly 40mpg and not have to drive a diesel or a Smart car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I'm on a dark country road and low on petrol I don't really give a fuck which petrol station I next come across, so long as there is one before I run out of fuel!

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

"When I'm on a dark country road and low on petrol I don't really give a fuck which petrol station I next come across, so long as there is one before I run out of fuel!"

Yeah...but....If you had been using Shell and getting 10-15 miles a gallon extra you wouldn't be running out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if ANY fuel company could promise an extra 10-15 mpg if you used their fuel...NO-ONE would use anything else.

I tend to agree with that statement

I need to find this place quickly. I only get about 24mpg outta my car. I'd love to get nearly 40mpg and not have to drive a diesel or a Smart car."

Me too, I currently get 55.4ish out of my Peugeot 207 diesel but I'd love to bump it up to 70 or thereabouts

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By *ytraCouple
over a year ago

Wrexham

Ok now worked it out and it is a bit lower than i thought, it varies between 6 and 10mpg more depending on the station used shell gives us about 39mpg, total gives about 42mpg and supermarket 34mpg have not used BP for a couple of years as it is lower than supermarket.

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

I loves my car, like really loves it... but it drinks petrol like you wouldn't believe.

It might have something to do with my heavy right foot though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I'm on a dark country road and low on petrol I don't really give a fuck which petrol station I next come across, so long as there is one before I run out of fuel!

Yeah...but....If you had been using Shell and getting 10-15 miles a gallon extra you wouldn't be running out!

I've used Shell for years as I collected the Airmiles but they've changed them to something else now and are worth half as much as they were. We've switched to Sainsburys as we get the Nectar points for that. Adds up you know, over the year we've collected enough points to do our Xmas shop in a couple of weeks and it won't cost us a penny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use to drive a fuel tanker and can tell you that it's all the same esso bp shell ect ect the only difference is from which refinery it cam from..

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West

"doesnt it all come from the same place just branded differently??"

Yep spot on...

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By *ytraCouple
over a year ago

Wrexham

At the end of the day everybody seems to have their own opinions about which fuel is better, all you have to do is a web search and you will find hundreds of comments and reviews etc. Looking around earlier it does seem that even though it might come from a main refinery the quality is different between different forecourts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If its a big turnover garage the only thing to avoid is filling up while they're refilling the tanks.

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By *orkieMan
over a year ago

Who knows

Used to do work at quite a few refineries and you see supermarket tankers filling up at the same manifolds as the branded tankers.. asked someone about this and he said there is no difference

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By *oole2010Couple
over a year ago

southampto

all the fuel whether its branded or supermarkets come from the same refinery so therefore its taxed at the same refinery price same as alcohol is taxed at same levels all brewerys and fags from all tobacco factorys they may charge you extra at bp etc as they put more additives into it but petrol is petrol once its first refined without extras

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

So, reading the bove, at which point do the branded names add their additives, if at all, or are they telling naughty porkies?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

above*

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bet you're putting regular in too - to be honest if you have a Porsche then you should be using branded fuel and higher octane - it does have extra additives and better performance.. If you're running a regular car - it won't make much difference as you probably won't have it on the road in twenty years time anyway...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to know people who worked in BP and oil refineries - yes makes a difference at the high end...

Not for regular cars though

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By *r D and Mrs LCouple
over a year ago

Helensburgh

i once saw jeremy clarkson in tescos putting fuel in his car ... thats fine by me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work in the motor trade and i hear this all the time.

Anyone who says that supermarket fuel is of lower quality is deluded.

It causes no harm to your vehicle. Regular servicing and maintenance is all that's needed to run your car like clockwork.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

And fuel that is refined in winter is different to fuel that is refined in summer. Here is a question for you. Why do we have different octane levels with petrol?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And fuel that is refined in winter is different to fuel that is refined in summer. Here is a question for you. Why do we have different octane levels with petrol?

Higher the octane, the higher it can be compressed before firing.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

"And fuel that is refined in winter is different to fuel that is refined in summer. Here is a question for you. Why do we have different octane levels with petrol?

Higher the octane, the higher it can be compressed before firing."

And also means you can use more advanced ignition timing for more power. so using say 99 octane in your average car would mean what for its performance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And fuel that is refined in winter is different to fuel that is refined in summer. Here is a question for you. Why do we have different octane levels with petrol?

Higher the octane, the higher it can be compressed before firing.

And also means you can use more advanced ignition timing for more power. so using say 99 octane in your average car would mean what for its performance?"

Nothing, save your money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And fuel that is refined in winter is different to fuel that is refined in summer. Here is a question for you. Why do we have different octane levels with petrol?

Are you thinking of the old 2/3/4 star?

That was under the old leaded petrol.

SHell, I think is the only one that is selling super petrol, and thats for high preformance cars, and if you make a mistake, lol.

Look up RON via google

ordinary unleaded is 95Ron.

Hope the supermarkets don't start selling mobiles, broadband, Gas or Electric or it will be inferior

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By *ercedes62Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

Totally agree as i said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no change in petrol summer to winter but diesel has kerosine (paraffin) added to it duringing the winter to lower the waxing point to -15.

Which by the way is a waist of time in this country As diesel waxes at -25

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By *ofakindCouple
over a year ago

Running with Monkeys

SHell, I think is the only one that is selling super petrol, and thats for high preformance cars, and if you make a mistake, lol.

Tesco have a higher octane fuel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i did a test, filled up from a supermarket did my normal driving, then filled up from a brand station and did the same.

the differance was over 5 mpg better with the branded fuel.

so branded for me everytime, the cost is outweighed by the mpg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i did a test, filled up from a supermarket did my normal driving, then filled up from a brand station and did the same.

the differance was over 5 mpg better with the branded fuel.

so branded for me everytime, the cost is outweighed by the mpg

Fucking amazing! Your fuel injectors knew the difference!

You don't work for Shell do you?

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

"There is no change in petrol summer to winter but diesel has kerosine (paraffin) added to it duringing the winter to lower the waxing point to -15.

Which by the way is a waist of time in this country As diesel waxes at -25 "

Incorrect. there is a difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is no change in petrol summer to winter but diesel has kerosine (paraffin) added to it duringing the winter to lower the waxing point to -15.

Which by the way is a waist of time in this country As diesel waxes at -25

Incorrect. there is a difference."

Are you sure? As far as i know the fuel or octane content is the same so what is the difference?

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By *ercedes62Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

"There is no change in petrol summer to winter but diesel has kerosine (paraffin) added to it duringing the winter to lower the waxing point to -15.

Which by the way is a waist of time in this country As diesel waxes at -25

Incorrect. there is a difference.

Are you sure? As far as i know the fuel or octane content is the same so what is the difference?"

With V power its not the octane level is higher they do both petrol and diesel in it.

So you get better mpg and this is to do with the anti-knock properties of the higher octane fuel.

0h and no i dont work for them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i did a test, filled up from a supermarket did my normal driving, then filled up from a brand station and did the same.

the differance was over 5 mpg better with the branded fuel.

so branded for me everytime, the cost is outweighed by the mpg

Fucking amazing! Your fuel injectors knew the difference!

You don't work for Shell do you?

all modern cars know how good the fuel they are using is, and no i dont work for shell, notice i didnt mention any names

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Anyone remember the Buncefield Oil Depot? The one that went KABOOM a few years back? Each storage tank had a different brand painted on it, but all the tankers filled up at the ones in use that day!

Doesn't matter what brand, it is all the same! Those that say they get more MPG just by using a particular brand? I would wager that if you checked every tankfull an the same brand, there would never be just one answer!

With diesel it can depend on the car you drive. The VW Passat is crap on cheap diesel if you just do town runs. The particulate filter gets clogged and that can cost a fortune!

The Jag X-Type we have (2.2D) clogs up the Exhast Gas Recirculation valve on cheap diesel in a very short time, but the BMW (2.0D) has never given a days problem on any diesel, and it is the same with the C-Class (2.1D)

(Mind you, the Jag is the run around..)

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

"There is no change in petrol summer to winter but diesel has kerosine (paraffin) added to it duringing the winter to lower the waxing point to -15.

Which by the way is a waist of time in this country As diesel waxes at -25

Incorrect. there is a difference.

Are you sure? As far as i know the fuel or octane content is the same so what is the difference?"

Just additives. octane rate stays the same.

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

"Anyone remember the Buncefield Oil Depot? The one that went KABOOM a few years back? Each storage tank had a different brand painted on it, but all the tankers filled up at the ones in use that day!

With diesel it can depend on the car you drive. The VW Passat is crap on cheap diesel if you just do town runs. The particulate filter gets clogged and that can cost a fortune!

(Mind you, the Jag is the run around..)"

Doesnt matter what car you drive if its fitted with a particulate filter as they dont work period!! I spend most of my working day removing particulate filters from all makes of cars. cant stress how shit these things really are!

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By *elshmailMan
over a year ago

neath

well i try and goto a shell as i always remember their adverts saying they put cleaning additives in their fuel. i dont know if any other does this.

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

Sorry - no idea. I can't afford BP diesel...

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"Doesnt matter what car you drive if its fitted with a particulate filter as they dont work period!! I spend most of my working day removing particulate filters from all makes of cars. cant stress how shit these things really are!

I have heard that, but the BM is the only one we have never had trouble with. We do notice the cleaning cycle when the car runs a little rough for a short time, but no problems..

Someone did say to take the EGR valve off the Jag (also Mondeo, Transit) and blank it off before replacing, but I figure that it is there for a reason... Makes the car a pig to drive till it is cleaned out!

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By *teborahCouple
over a year ago

warrington

I have heard that, but the BM is the only one we have never had trouble with. We do notice the cleaning cycle when the car runs a little rough for a short time, but no problems..

All it does is recycle exhaust gasses which effectively fuck up the inlet manifold which makes the engine run less effective so uses more fuel which sort of defeats the object of it being greener! Yet another good idea on paper but like Particulate filters it doesnt work in the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the supermarkets do bulk there fuels to the max with all the cheap additives so they can sell it cheaper as for branded company tankers delivering it they produce what the customer asks for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supermarket fuels are pretty much the same. The only difference is the additives. Stuff like optimax is slightly better but then again most supermarkets do higher octane petrol too.

I always use supermarket and its done no harm at all o my cars

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By *ondafirestormMan
over a year ago

heckington

I work for a supermarket and ran one of the petrol stations and can say there is no difference.

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