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"It's one rule for them and another for us. I can think of *many* other examples where men do things but it's the end of the universe if a woman does the same. " Just got to be a grown up about these things | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " I don't do that, I don't want to hear what you get up to and I will reciprocate | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " To those men, mention other men | |||
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"Maybe if it's single guys they don't get the swinging dynamic and are actually looking for a relationship?" I don’t think they get the idea of swinging at all. They want NSA sex with many people, but can’t seperate the jealousy when the other person does it. I’ve heard it’s women too. I’ve heard tales of an incredibly prolific female on here who’s in the hot pics a lot being incredibly possessive and insecure. | |||
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"If I do get a pang of jealousy for any reason, I check myself and remember that this is a site to fuck people, cause having sex is fun and variety is the spice of life. And people should be fucking more. " Same and id enjoy hearing about it regardless i love the storys people tell | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. " I think it's their fear they've missed out on something. You could have been giving them your time but chose someone else. Not realising they have done the same to you. | |||
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"I don't mention other men unless asked though. Funny though that men don't tend to ask. " I will always ask, though I try to be and encourage openness from the start. It’s relevant, as past partners will likely have had some influence on how she views a particular activity now. That might be a positive memory or negative. There’s something very endearing about hearing how such and such first got her into eg swinging, fetish. If it’s a negative, then that too can be discussed and help her to regain confidence or openness trying new things. | |||
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"I’ve noticed that it’s very unpopular to post anything remotely negative about guys in the forums. The coven will be along shortly to put you right " The Coven?! | |||
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" I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. " . Agree | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. I think it's their fear they've missed out on something. You could have been giving them your time but chose someone else. Not realising they have done the same to you. " Oh they had their time, and plenty of it, it was their choice not to see me, then the green eyed monster appeared when I made other plans. I find it quite funny now | |||
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"Ego Everybody’s Got One" And some are larger than others. | |||
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"Ego. Some, note I said some, have a very fragile ego and can't understand why they aren't the center of your universe. " That is true . There are also some women who are exactly the same ( in these very forums ) . But yes there are guys who are way over sensitive on here , and they are perhaps on the wrong site | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. " that is a generalisation though, surely you don't come into a forum and expect everyone to have the same opinion otherwise what's the point of a forum, we are all different and expect different things from this the meeting point | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. that is a generalisation though, surely you don't come into a forum and expect everyone to have the same opinion otherwise what's the point of a forum, we are all different and expect different things from this the meeting point " I was talking about a personal experience. Dealing with someone who claimed to be open minded & liberated, happy to do his own thing on a regular basis, but reduced me to tears for doing the same, once! | |||
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"Wow, so interesting, thanks for all the comments. I think whoever said about ego is true and also I think a couple of guys are just kids in candy shop so the fomo is true too " Miss can i have some sweetys please i promise il be good | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. " I appreciate you started off talking about him as an individual but you then " its an ugly unnaatractive trait in people " But if that's solely applying to him that is of course fine | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. " I appreciate you started off talking about him as an individual but you then " its an ugly unnaatractive trait in people " But if that's solely applying to him that is of course fine | |||
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"Ego Everybody’s Got One And some are larger than others." Some are more fragile than others lol | |||
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"Ego Everybody’s Got One And some are larger than others. Some are more fraggle rock than others lol " Worries for another day | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. I think it's their fear they've missed out on something. You could have been giving them your time but chose someone else. Not realising they have done the same to you. Oh they had their time, and plenty of it, it was their choice not to see me, then the green eyed monster appeared when I made other plans. I find it quite funny now " I get it. They don't want you any more but don't like the idea of someone else having you. | |||
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"I have no desire to hear who someone is hankering after or who they have met. In fact i think it is a bit rude to bring up another meet with someone you’re meeting, have met or are going to meet, unless they ask. It’s just showboating and i don’t find that attractive in men at all." Especially if they mention names? | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. I appreciate you started off talking about him as an individual but you then " its an ugly unnaatractive trait in people " But if that's solely applying to him that is of course fine " Ok, maybe putting 'in a person' would have read better. Forgive my dyslexic brain for getting it wrong, it took long enough to write, correct & rewrite the typos I did spot | |||
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"Been there, done that. Getting grief off of someone when I posted a new Veri, despite his numerous ones, that I never batted an eyelid over, or even bothered to read. I call it double standards... And it's an ugly unnaatractive trait in people who are supposedly open minded & liberated. I think it's their fear they've missed out on something. You could have been giving them your time but chose someone else. Not realising they have done the same to you. Oh they had their time, and plenty of it, it was their choice not to see me, then the green eyed monster appeared when I made other plans. I find it quite funny now I get it. They don't want you any more but don't like the idea of someone else having you." | |||
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"I don't mind talking about fantasies and people in the past, about what we'd do if we met George Clooney and Zooey Deschanel, or about lovers we've had. But when I'm with a woman, even if it's just for sex, I prefer to stay in the moment and treat her with that respect that all my attention is on her. So, no, I wouldn't bring up the subject of other women I'd like to meet. And I'd hope for the same in return. So maybe it's not a male female thing. Maybe it's a manners thing " I agree with this. I don't like verifications detailing every sex act they've done and who with. I prefer discreet people. | |||
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"I wouldn't want to hear about past conquests or discuss my own, I just think likes, wants and needs can be expressed without being indiscreet. " | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " I believe Madam meant to say "Some men"... I never say things like "the hottest girl on fab" as because I haven't met every single girl on fab I'm in no position to judge that? Though I may think they're the hottest girl I've met up to that point. But the problem with that is that there's so many different ways in which someone can be hot and it differs in the minds of one person to the next? So while I have no problem in singing a lady's praises and extolling her virtues and sultry appeal that's one description I tend not to use really? | |||
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"It's one rule for them and another for us. I can think of *many* other examples where men do things but it's the end of the universe if a woman does the same. " | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " in my case you're wrong I never discuss other conquests or potential conquests, I will flirt but that my nature, I don't ask for veris, show veris or even want veris | |||
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"I actually don't mind hearing about other people's experiences, I actually find it a huge turn on with some of my friends. I find the majority of men I meet like to know about my other meets too, and I value these men as real swingers as they understand it. Only the odd few dont like to know. I do always ask a man how he feels before I would even mention other meets I've had. I also never disclose who or when it was, when I'm talking about previous meets, as I'm extremely aware about discretion." Snap | |||
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"It's one rule for them and another for us. I can think of *many* other examples where men do things but it's the end of the universe if a woman does the jsame. " I love your irony | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " I think as a generalisation you are spot on, however I get quite irritated with my wife when she won't tell me who she likes in case it upsets me, if you are truly best friends with your partner then that is exactly the conversation you should be able to have. So personally I love it. Mr | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " You are right.. it’s because men like to pee on everything | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong You are right.. it’s because men like to pee on everything " yes got a nettle sting on my shin the other day | |||
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"Think some men and women forget it's a swingers site .It's not a dating site . " Its not necessarily about dating and monogamy ... alot of the time its just bruised ego | |||
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"I wouldn't want to hear about past conquests or discuss my own, I just think likes, wants and needs can be expressed without being indiscreet." This for me too. I have zero interest in hearing about or discussing past conquests. | |||
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"I wouldn't want to hear about past conquests or discuss my own, I just think likes, wants and needs can be expressed without being indiscreet. This for me too. I have zero interest in hearing about or discussing past conquests." me to its can lead to the green eyed monster | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I think as a generalisation you are spot on, however I get quite irritated with my wife when she won't tell me who she likes in case it upsets me, if you are truly best friends with your partner then that is exactly the conversation you should be able to have. So personally I love it. Mr" You’re swingers and she irritates you in relation to this site? Should you talk to her rather than tell us this info? | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I think as a generalisation you are spot on, however I get quite irritated with my wife when she won't tell me who she likes in case it upsets me, if you are truly best friends with your partner then that is exactly the conversation you should be able to have. So personally I love it. Mr You’re swingers and she irritates you in relation to this site? Should you talk to her rather than tell us this info? " Bloody hell this site is hilarious. Do you actually take yourselves this seriously all the time. Life must be an absolute riot of... Boredom, lol. it's a tongue in cheek jokey comment. And yes of course I talk to her about it, that's why some of us are in relationships, we know how to talk to each other, lol. And we can even have a little laugh at each others expense without running off to cry to all the really important people in our lives on this forum But still, you win uptight comment of the day award, lol. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit " that's a very unfair statement I'm afraid I never treat a woman with anything less than respect | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I think as a generalisation you are spot on, however I get quite irritated with my wife when she won't tell me who she likes in case it upsets me, if you are truly best friends with your partner then that is exactly the conversation you should be able to have. So personally I love it. Mr You’re swingers and she irritates you in relation to this site? Should you talk to her rather than tell us this info? " Think you're reading that completely wrong. In answer to the thread, he's saying he wants me to tell him when I like someone. In the same way he tells me. Our communication is great thanks Mrs | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit " So all men treat women like shit do they? The most you can justifiably say is all the men you have experienced do, which is a sad insight into any father figure, grandfather's and any other men in your life. What a shame. Fortunately I can assure tyou that while it IS true in some cases, as a valid generalisation it is utter nonsense. About as valid as an all men are rapists statement. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit So all men treat women like shit do they? The most you can justifiably say is all the men you have experienced do, which is a sad insight into any father figure, grandfather's and any other men in your life. What a shame. Fortunately I can assure tyou that while it IS true in some cases, as a valid generalisation it is utter nonsense. About as valid as an all men are rapists statement. " Except I never said all. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit that's a very unfair statement I'm afraid I never treat a woman with anything less than respect " If you did, you wouldn't need to mention it. Instead you should direct your energy towards the men who do treat non men poorly. | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I think as a generalisation you are spot on, however I get quite irritated with my wife when she won't tell me who she likes in case it upsets me, if you are truly best friends with your partner then that is exactly the conversation you should be able to have. So personally I love it. Mr You’re swingers and she irritates you in relation to this site? Should you talk to her rather than tell us this info? Think you're reading that completely wrong. In answer to the thread, he's saying he wants me to tell him when I like someone. In the same way he tells me. Our communication is great thanks Mrs" Touché | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit that's a very unfair statement I'm afraid I never treat a woman with anything less than respect If you did, you wouldn't need to mention it. Instead you should direct your energy towards the men who do treat non men poorly." Why would I or anyone say all men are rapists? That would just give all men a get out clause. The fact that most men aren't rapists is reason for the rapists to not have any excuse. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit So all men treat women like shit do they? The most you can justifiably say is all the men you have experienced do, which is a sad insight into any father figure, grandfather's and any other men in your life. What a shame. Fortunately I can assure tyou that while it IS true in some cases, as a valid generalisation it is utter nonsense. About as valid as an all men are rapists statement. Except I never said all." The fact you started your sentence "men's" does say that and. Sure you know that but fair enough, as long as you don't actually think it's all then fine. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit So all men treat women like shit do they? The most you can justifiably say is all the men you have experienced do, which is a sad insight into any father figure, grandfather's and any other men in your life. What a shame. Fortunately I can assure tyou that while it IS true in some cases, as a valid generalisation it is utter nonsense. About as valid as an all men are rapists statement. Except I never said all. The fact you started your sentence "men's" does say that and. Sure you know that but fair enough, as long as you don't actually think it's all then fine. " You chose to interpret that way and I'm not seeking approval of my opinions. | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit that's a very unfair statement I'm afraid I never treat a woman with anything less than respect If you did, you wouldn't need to mention it. Instead you should direct your energy towards the men who do treat non men poorly. Why would I or anyone say all men are rapists? That would just give all men a get out clause. The fact that most men aren't rapists is reason for the rapists to not have any excuse." Not much of a follow of current affairs, with yours being such a femeinist statement I made yet another assumption and thought you would be well aware of that. But it sounds like you are just making random ambiguous statements with little point. Think God for the green arrow saving me time trying to rationise with you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_French | |||
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"Men's biggest fear is that we treat them equally. Equally to how they treat non-men. Which is pretty shit So all men treat women like shit do they? The most you can justifiably say is all the men you have experienced do, which is a sad insight into any father figure, grandfather's and any other men in your life. What a shame. Fortunately I can assure tyou that while it IS true in some cases, as a valid generalisation it is utter nonsense. About as valid as an all men are rapists statement. Except I never said all. The fact you started your sentence "men's" does say that and. Sure you know that but fair enough, as long as you don't actually think it's all then fine. You chose to interpret that way and I'm not seeking approval of my opinions." Well as you're posting them on a public forum you will get it whether you seek it or not, lol. Does make me laugh when somebody gets Checked on a ridiculous statement, justifies it as an opinion, then implies people don't have the right to question that very opinion. If you don't want it queztioned maybe you should keep it to yourself? But don't worry I won't question you any more, from the look of your other posts it isn't my help you need. Bye and have a lovely time being you | |||
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"Fab is a place where people come for sex. A side effect of having sex with someone new is that you feel wanted and desired (yes, someone did like you enough to chat, flirt, kiss, look you in the eyes and do wonderful things with you). This is nothing more than validating of self, reflected back in the desire of others. How can this fail to increase your sense of self worth (ego). As already stated a large proportion use this site simply for NSA, rather than swinging. I believe it is this portion of fab, that have not experienced sharing/swapping/clubs that have the most issues as they are unlikely to have been exposed to that before. Swinging/poly/sharing does go against the grain of our modern society and the need to mark and protect your territory is the norm. The jealousy is a (vanilla) normal reaction which is what many of us have to overcome in ourselves and defend from with others." jealousy is within us all, their is no such thing as vanilla and not everyone is a swinger, not everyone wants nsa, not everyone develops feelings, not everyone kisses, we are all different and a gents a gent whether on this site or any other and the process of man meeting woman is much the same on any site, these sites including this one are meeting places, we are all real people going about real lives, the labels aren't needed really | |||
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"If I do get a pang of jealousy for any reason, I check myself and remember that this is a site to fuck people, cause having sex is fun and variety is the spice of life. And people should be fucking more. " Indeed we all should be. | |||
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"Fab is a place where people come for sex. A side effect of having sex with someone new is that you feel wanted and desired (yes, someone did like you enough to chat, flirt, kiss, look you in the eyes and do wonderful things with you). This is nothing more than validating of self, reflected back in the desire of others. How can this fail to increase your sense of self worth (ego). As already stated a large proportion use this site simply for NSA, rather than swinging. I believe it is this portion of fab, that have not experienced sharing/swapping/clubs that have the most issues as they are unlikely to have been exposed to that before. Swinging/poly/sharing does go against the grain of our modern society and the need to mark and protect your territory is the norm. The jealousy is a (vanilla) normal reaction which is what many of us have to overcome in ourselves and defend from with others.jealousy is within us all, their is no such thing as vanilla and not everyone is a swinger, not everyone wants nsa, not everyone develops feelings, not everyone kisses, we are all different and a gents a gent whether on this site or any other and the process of man meeting woman is much the same on any site, these sites including this one are meeting places, we are all real people going about real lives, the labels aren't needed really " Agreed, rereading my post I could have been a bit clearer. What we do here is no different from any other site, it is meeting people and having a form of relationship, whether that is a brief social, intimacy or something longer term. The only main difference is that veris provide evidence that people are able to run more than one of these at the same time. It is perfectly natural to have negative feelings when someone has other meets when you think you are "in the running". It is perfectly normal to question yourself, and compare yourself unfavourably. After all there must be a reason why the object of your desires had picked someone else over you. Even with experienced swinging couples jealousy can be present. Is the new play partner younger/prettier/tighter/fitter/bigger/better/dirtier... It takes a special person to share their partner completely and be totally secure. I have deliberately kept this as gender neutral as possible. These feelings and emotions are applicable to all. Some people are just better at expressing than others. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " Now that is one of the saddest things I've read on here, the. Guys you've been seeing should have been having the opposite effect. And judging just from your pictures that certainly won't have been the case most of the time. I wouldn't play with somebody that I didn't really like in one way or another, and I would feel very badly about myself if I left that play with the woman not feeling at least a little better about herself. Although I guess we all have insecurities, larger or smaller, and maybe this wouldn't have been enough for you. Who can say from a, few text posts. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " yes and you're not the only woman that feels like that but the flip side of that is you are constantly being bombarded with compliments and messages of praise, the guys however are sitting waiting patiently waiting to get a positive reaction to their messages and in most cases not getting a reply, they are seeing the veris go up and not getting a meet, they get no compliments to boost their ego, ok some guys here maybe even many guys here let themselves down with rude and thoughtless messages but many do send decent well thought out messages | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " it's a real shame that you feel like this...you are unique and entirely different from every other person in this world with your entirely unique personality and looks... comparisons are pointless .. men want you to be you | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong You are right.. it’s because men like to pee on everything " Literally?! | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " I was so surprised to read this. You are incredibly hot (from this female’s pov) and come across so well on the forums that I’ve been following you from afar for quite a while. The flippant thing to say would be maybe you could get by on lady lurve while you shake feeling like this, More seriously perhaps a break, rethink, refocus and regroup? Come back kicking arse? For what it’s worth, I’d join your fan club.. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " The way I look at it is that there's always someone seemingly more accomplished than you in some regard or other as no one is the human version of perfection and even if they were or as close to it, it would only be from the viewpoint of SOME, not everyone. There are guys on Fab more ripped than me and of course younger, but the age appeal varies from woman to woman. I am not the most intelligent man on the entire planet either, for me to think so would be ironically the very height of stupidity. There are of course guys with bigger appendages for the size queens. But my "scores" if you will in these areas aren't bad at all and I'm imaginative, pay attention, am thoughtful and a pleaser. Therefore I do fine on here and am having a whale of a time! I certainly don't let my not achieving "perfection" grind me down ha! Why would I? And neither should you. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. I was so surprised to read this. You are incredibly hot (from this female’s pov) and come across so well on the forums that I’ve been following you from afar for quite a while. The flippant thing to say would be maybe you could get by on lady lurve while you shake feeling like this, More seriously perhaps a break, rethink, refocus and regroup? Come back kicking arse? For what it’s worth, I’d join your fan club.. " Noted and appreciated x | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. The way I look at it is that there's always someone seemingly more accomplished than you in some regard or other as no one is the human version of perfection and even if they were or as close to it, it would only be from the viewpoint of SOME, not everyone. There are guys on Fab more ripped than me and of course younger, but the age appeal varies from woman to woman. I am not the most intelligent man on the entire planet either, for me to think so would be ironically the very height of stupidity. There are of course guys with bigger appendages for the size queens. But my "scores" if you will in these areas aren't bad at all and I'm imaginative, pay attention, am thoughtful and a pleaser. Therefore I do fine on here and am having a whale of a time! I certainly don't let my not achieving "perfection" grind me down ha! Why would I? And neither should you. " I'm not looking for "perfection" but I'm very pleased you are having such a wonderful time. Go You. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " If you're single Dana perhaps it's time to think about moving over to dating and away from here. This is where I'm currently heading. Yes there are a lot of nutters on the dating apps. But at least the formula involves seeking to connect with the person and seeing if you want to invest in them and allows sex to bubble up naturally as a byproduct of getting to know someone and, through that, can be much more respectful and rewarding. Without the offer of sex, people may also be less inclined to lower their standards, meeting only people they genuinely find attractive in more ways than one rather than merely attractive enough for a one night stand. Just some thoughts from my own head space at the mo xx | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. The way I look at it is that there's always someone seemingly more accomplished than you in some regard or other as no one is the human version of perfection and even if they were or as close to it, it would only be from the viewpoint of SOME, not everyone. There are guys on Fab more ripped than me and of course younger, but the age appeal varies from woman to woman. I am not the most intelligent man on the entire planet either, for me to think so would be ironically the very height of stupidity. There are of course guys with bigger appendages for the size queens. But my "scores" if you will in these areas aren't bad at all and I'm imaginative, pay attention, am thoughtful and a pleaser. Therefore I do fine on here and am having a whale of a time! I certainly don't let my not achieving "perfection" grind me down ha! Why would I? And neither should you. I'm not looking for "perfection" but I'm very pleased you are having such a wonderful time. Go You. " | |||
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"I’m not a jealous person so I would never bother me on here, however I’ve noticed many men get jealous even if another man is looking at you, or if you mention messages, even when they haven’t met you! I do think it’s a mix of jealousy, ego & this strange fantasy of wanting to control you and then be the only one you meet whilst they’re out getting their dick wet in every Sue, Susie & Sarah. " Would you mind adding more picture of you minge please. Thank you. Signed a desperate wanker | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " I love hearing about the other men, it’s a turn on | |||
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"I’m not a jealous person so I would never bother me on here, however I’ve noticed many men get jealous even if another man is looking at you, or if you mention messages, even when they haven’t met you! I do think it’s a mix of jealousy, ego & this strange fantasy of wanting to control you and then be the only one you meet whilst they’re out getting their dick wet in every Sue, Susie & Sarah. " Love it. So true. | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. The way I look at it is that there's always someone seemingly more accomplished than you in some regard or other as no one is the human version of perfection and even if they were or as close to it, it would only be from the viewpoint of SOME, not everyone. There are guys on Fab more ripped than me and of course younger, but the age appeal varies from woman to woman. I am not the most intelligent man on the entire planet either, for me to think so would be ironically the very height of stupidity. There are of course guys with bigger appendages for the size queens. But my "scores" if you will in these areas aren't bad at all and I'm imaginative, pay attention, am thoughtful and a pleaser. Therefore I do fine on here and am having a whale of a time! I certainly don't let my not achieving "perfection" grind me down ha! Why would I? And neither should you. I'm not looking for "perfection" but I'm very pleased you are having such a wonderful time. Go You. " Thank you, dear lady And that's also precisely my point. You're not looking for perfection and neither is just about everybody on here? Therefore it doesn't matter who guys who meet you have met before or after? They want to meet you because they want to meet you? The way I see it, every woman is different and has different qualities to her? What I fancy the panties off one woman for often won't be the reason that I similarly fancy the knickers off another lady? So you have nothing to worry about. | |||
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"It would appear from what I’m hearing more and more. Guys are as insecure and as jealous as the girls. " If that's aimed at the original question on this thread, I don't think the issue is insecurity or jealousy. I just think it's a bit demeaning and awkward to talk about other women when I'm with a woman. Besides... if I'm with her... it's because I'm interested in her, not anyone else, so why would I talk about anyone else. Do you talk about other amazing meals you've had whilst you're biting into a lovely meal? Personally I prefer to be present with it. That's got nothing to do with insecurity or jealousy. It's about respect and revelling in the moment | |||
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"Fab is a place where people come for sex. A side effect of having sex with someone new is that you feel wanted and desired (yes, someone did like you enough to chat, flirt, kiss, look you in the eyes and do wonderful things with you). This is nothing more than validating of self, reflected back in the desire of others. How can this fail to increase your sense of self worth (ego). As already stated a large proportion use this site simply for NSA, rather than swinging. I believe it is this portion of fab, that have not experienced sharing/swapping/clubs that have the most issues as they are unlikely to have been exposed to that before. Swinging/poly/sharing does go against the grain of our modern society and the need to mark and protect your territory is the norm. The jealousy is a (vanilla) normal reaction which is what many of us have to overcome in ourselves and defend from with others.jealousy is within us all, their is no such thing as vanilla and not everyone is a swinger, not everyone wants nsa, not everyone develops feelings, not everyone kisses, we are all different and a gents a gent whether on this site or any other and the process of man meeting woman is much the same on any site, these sites including this one are meeting places, we are all real people going about real lives, the labels aren't needed really " This | |||
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"It's one rule for them and another for us. I can think of *many* other examples where men do things but it's the end of the universe if a woman does the same. " So can i. I can also think of many things women get away with that men couldn't. It's almost like men and women aren't the same... | |||
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"The guys I have met will always (in my head) have met or are seeing someone fitter, prettier, younger and hotter than me. I'd like to say I don't give a shit, but sometimes it's quite difficult for me to deal with and has actually contributed to my complete lack of confidence and cessation of sex meets. " Dana, I said something along the same lines on a thread a few weeks ago when I ventured back after taking a break. Depending on where you’re at in your personal life, Fabs and all that goes with it can deliver an almighty confidence boost but it’s hard to sustain because it’s not really based on anything substantial. | |||
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"I had the opposite problems when I was on here before with someone who basically became an FWB. She would see about another guy every week and i would offer a basic “have a nice time”. But on the odd occasion I’d have another meet it would be “oh you won’t wanna see me again then after this!” In a snotty tone. " Gives her a tissue. From the outset Trust Honest Loyalty... You should agree on what's best for both of you. Is it okay to fuck others after all no one owns anyone. Did you have an agreement with her. Its ok for both of us to fuck others with no JEALOUSY INVOLVED. For single people on fab I feel it still cums with stigma. | |||
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"I had the opposite problems when I was on here before with someone who basically became an FWB. She would see about another guy every week and i would offer a basic “have a nice time”. But on the odd occasion I’d have another meet it would be “oh you won’t wanna see me again then after this!” In a snotty tone. " I’m not condoning or excusing but it may have been how she was treated before by guys. Guys do tend to find a new shiny toy and the interest from the old toy disappears. I’m not agreeing with it I’m just offering a different perspective. As rebellious said communication, trust, loyalty etc is needed | |||
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"I had the opposite problems when I was on here before with someone who basically became an FWB. She would see about another guy every week and i would offer a basic “have a nice time”. But on the odd occasion I’d have another meet it would be “oh you won’t wanna see me again then after this!” In a snotty tone. " I'd say this is more common than the one in the op. | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. " Sorry. It is what I’ve noticed though. Clearly I can’t speak the other way around as I’m not interested in women but it’s my view and I did say I’d reflect if I was wrong. It seems there are issues for both sexes. I was purely trying to understand a bit more | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. Sorry. It is what I’ve noticed though. Clearly I can’t speak the other way around as I’m not interested in women but it’s my view and I did say I’d reflect if I was wrong. It seems there are issues for both sexes. I was purely trying to understand a bit more" I wasn’t having a dig at you, just my observations after running through the thread and reading the ‘all men’ points that have been trotted out. | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " You're not wrong.. | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. " It’s nit a sweeping generalisation if it relates to HER experience. | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. Sorry. It is what I’ve noticed though. Clearly I can’t speak the other way around as I’m not interested in women but it’s my view and I did say I’d reflect if I was wrong. It seems there are issues for both sexes. I was purely trying to understand a bit more I wasn’t having a dig at you, just my observations after running through the thread and reading the ‘all men’ points that have been trotted out. " Ahh I see. Yeah I skipped through a lot of them. A conversation seems to have developed in the middle. | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong You're not wrong.. " Thanks, Just a lot of observations since being on here | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. It’s nit a sweeping generalisation if it relates to HER experience. " Thanks hon, it’s a mine field | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. It’s nit a sweeping generalisation if it relates to HER experience. " I wasn’t making a point about the OP, I’m pointing out that in some people’s experiences that may be the case but to generalise and to tar everyone the same way is demeaning. I’ve experienced similar behaviour on here from other genders, it’s how people are built, not just guys and not everyone is the same | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. It’s nit a sweeping generalisation if it relates to HER experience. I wasn’t making a point about the OP, I’m pointing out that in some people’s experiences that may be the case but to generalise and to tar everyone the same way is demeaning. I’ve experienced similar behaviour on here from other genders, it’s how people are built, not just guys and not everyone is the same " Literally no one said everyone is the same. The OP is making a post based on her own experience that cannot be judged by anyone since you aren’t her. I can’t see how it’s tarring everyone with the same brush. We know others are like this as it’s been mentioned before however again, this is the OPs experience and nobody can dispute that. If she has had a high number of men act like this, I don’t blame her for assuming it’s common. I would too. | |||
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"I must admit that it makes me a little bit sad to read this thread. Jealousy and ego are part of everybody’s character to a greater or lesser degree, not just men. How we deal with it and wether we act on it is a different matter. Personally I dislike sweeping generalisations according to gender, age or anything else for that matter. It’s nit a sweeping generalisation if it relates to HER experience. I wasn’t making a point about the OP, I’m pointing out that in some people’s experiences that may be the case but to generalise and to tar everyone the same way is demeaning. I’ve experienced similar behaviour on here from other genders, it’s how people are built, not just guys and not everyone is the same Literally no one said everyone is the same. The OP is making a post based on her own experience that cannot be judged by anyone since you aren’t her. I can’t see how it’s tarring everyone with the same brush. We know others are like this as it’s been mentioned before however again, this is the OPs experience and nobody can dispute that. If she has had a high number of men act like this, I don’t blame her for assuming it’s common. I would too. " I do appreciate that, I agree that it is a common thing for everyone | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong " I might have wee’d myself a little reading this. | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I might have wee’d myself a little reading this." It escalated | |||
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"They get upset if you mention other men (so I don’t do that) but so many men mention ´the hottest girl on fab’ or ´had the best time ever with....’ or ‘I’m hung up on one’ of your friends....’ Why is it ok for men to have these status updates or say it in messages but not women Am I wrong? I’ll happily reflect on my post if I’m wrong I might have wee’d myself a little reading this. It escalated " It did. But I’ve changed me pants now so it’s all good. | |||
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