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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was watching an interesting program about gurus in india about it, where they said, if someone got problems, such as phobias, rituals and other things, it all comes from the thought process in the brain, whats your view? I agree with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe anxiety and phobias are brought on by stress, which causes adrenaline to kick in.

Other chemicals in the brain may bring on anxiety and phobias too.

After becoming very ill I developed ridiculous phobias about things that might happen to me.

Previous to being ill I could think about them and not feel paranoid or scared. It's not about what thoughts we have, but about how out minds and bodies deal with them. It's not easy to stop thinking either.

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By *weetheart90Woman
over a year ago

Ipswich

I agree, most phobias come from a bad experience. I read that once you have this bad experience it rewires the brain to remind you of it so your afraid of that specific thing so you don't approach it again and repeat the same bad experience

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I suppose at it's simplest they're right but it really isn't that easy. Ask my friend with anxiety who has only slept about three hours a night for years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the pressures on a person that cause the stress which leads to depression.

It's not so simple in my view as its just the thought process of one's mind...it's what you maybe dealing with and how you are dealing with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It all depends. Disorders can be Psychosymatic or Biological. Psychosymatic disorders, such as phobias, can be over come with therapy. But they are more complicated than people think. All phobias derive from a trauma that happened in life, most commonly when young. Now a lot of people say "oh I have a phobia of this" but then act normal if that fear is in the room. True phobias are completely irrational. An arachnophobe is more likely to see a spider simply because they are actively seeking it out sub-conciously. True phobias are hard to cure and take time. Now Biological disorders are a slight bit easier to cure, simply due to the fact that they are caused by chemical imbalances that need medication to help. Believing you are better with one of these disorders simply will not work, however there have been cases where people start believing that are getting better, due to a placebo drug, so the body is tricked into creating the chemical (e.g. Seretonin) that it is lacking

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It might technically be true, but it runs the risk of blaming those with mental illness for their suffering. Where do those thoughts come from, what triggered them? External stressors/ traumas and illness are likely to be bigger factors than things you can just willpower out of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It all depends. Disorders can be Psychosymatic or Biological. Psychosymatic disorders, such as phobias, can be over come with therapy. But they are more complicated than people think. All phobias derive from a trauma that happened in life, most commonly when young. Now a lot of people say "oh I have a phobia of this" but then act normal if that fear is in the room. True phobias are completely irrational. An arachnophobe is more likely to see a spider simply because they are actively seeking it out sub-conciously. True phobias are hard to cure and take time. Now Biological disorders are a slight bit easier to cure, simply due to the fact that they are caused by chemical imbalances that need medication to help. Believing you are better with one of these disorders simply will not work, however there have been cases where people start believing that are getting better, due to a placebo drug, so the body is tricked into creating the chemical (e.g. Seretonin) that it is lacking"

I had an irrational fear of being taken by aliens. I would lay in bed in the dark, scared to death, sweating and near to tears, because I thought they could take me in my sleep. I'd seen a documentary about someone who said an orb appeared in their bedroom and they were transported to a space ship in a second.

Now, I know that's ridiculous, but at the time my brain and reactions to thinking about it happening weren't rational.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It all depends. Disorders can be Psychosymatic or Biological. Psychosymatic disorders, such as phobias, can be over come with therapy. But they are more complicated than people think. All phobias derive from a trauma that happened in life, most commonly when young. Now a lot of people say "oh I have a phobia of this" but then act normal if that fear is in the room. True phobias are completely irrational. An arachnophobe is more likely to see a spider simply because they are actively seeking it out sub-conciously. True phobias are hard to cure and take time. Now Biological disorders are a slight bit easier to cure, simply due to the fact that they are caused by chemical imbalances that need medication to help. Believing you are better with one of these disorders simply will not work, however there have been cases where people start believing that are getting better, due to a placebo drug, so the body is tricked into creating the chemical (e.g. Seretonin) that it is lacking

I had an irrational fear of being taken by aliens. I would lay in bed in the dark, scared to death, sweating and near to tears, because I thought they could take me in my sleep. I'd seen a documentary about someone who said an orb appeared in their bedroom and they were transported to a space ship in a second.

Now, I know that's ridiculous, but at the time my brain and reactions to thinking about it happening weren't rational. "

That would be classed as a true phobia. One of the criteria on being diagnosed on having one is to acknowledge that the phobia is irrational

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting thread - bookmarking.

Our brain is a complex machine of which much of the whirring and crunching we don’t consciously acknowledge. It’s this that shapes us, and the growth in mindset/mindfulness that’s been seen is an awareness of how fragile this great machine can be and the care needed to maintain harmony within it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was watching an interesting program about gurus in india about it, where they said, if someone got problems, such as phobias, rituals and other things, it all comes from the thought process in the brain, whats your view? I agree with them."

I agree that the brain can reinforce problems or phobias that are already there and it can be very challenging to retrain the brain to move past these thoughts.

However, some irrational fears and almost all mental health disorders cannot be controlled simply by meditation, although it does help.

Some fears materialise from unknown places; I fly regularly for work and used to enjoy it, now the slightest turbulence terrifies me and the only way I can get through a flight is vodka.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting points everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was watching an interesting program about gurus in india about it, where they said, if someone got problems, such as phobias, rituals and other things, it all comes from the thought process in the brain, whats your view? I agree with them.

I agree that the brain can reinforce problems or phobias that are already there and it can be very challenging to retrain the brain to move past these thoughts.

However, some irrational fears and almost all mental health disorders cannot be controlled simply by meditation, although it does help.

Some fears materialise from unknown places; I fly regularly for work and used to enjoy it, now the slightest turbulence terrifies me and the only way I can get through a flight is vodka. "

I have a flight coming up I'm gradually feeling sicker and sicker about. In the past I've been ok. This time I think I'm going to have a melt down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes problems are in the mind. Thats why there is cbt which changes your thought process on things

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was watching an interesting program about gurus in india about it, where they said, if someone got problems, such as phobias, rituals and other things, it all comes from the thought process in the brain, whats your view? I agree with them.

I agree that the brain can reinforce problems or phobias that are already there and it can be very challenging to retrain the brain to move past these thoughts.

However, some irrational fears and almost all mental health disorders cannot be controlled simply by meditation, although it does help.

Some fears materialise from unknown places; I fly regularly for work and used to enjoy it, now the slightest turbulence terrifies me and the only way I can get through a flight is vodka.

I have a flight coming up I'm gradually feeling sicker and sicker about. In the past I've been ok. This time I think I'm going to have a melt down. "

Have you tried looking at 'fear of flying' sites for help? I found some of them useful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was watching an interesting program about gurus in india about it, where they said, if someone got problems, such as phobias, rituals and other things, it all comes from the thought process in the brain, whats your view? I agree with them.

I agree that the brain can reinforce problems or phobias that are already there and it can be very challenging to retrain the brain to move past these thoughts.

However, some irrational fears and almost all mental health disorders cannot be controlled simply by meditation, although it does help.

Some fears materialise from unknown places; I fly regularly for work and used to enjoy it, now the slightest turbulence terrifies me and the only way I can get through a flight is vodka.

I have a flight coming up I'm gradually feeling sicker and sicker about. In the past I've been ok. This time I think I'm going to have a melt down.

Have you tried looking at 'fear of flying' sites for help? I found some of them useful. "

They help a lot. My airline runs lots of fear of flying course with great success. Always nice to have them onboard finally and help them get to the other end with less anxiety.

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over a year ago

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

My thoughts are a scary place Shag!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Might be missing something, OP, but a phobia is a mental aberration so obviously it's a thought process in the brain.

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