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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" Not filters on my inbox ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" As a guy, im on the fence. On one hand i want to see(obviously), but on the other hand, i like to use my imagination until the moment, however that moment unfolds. That said, use your instincts ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite? As a guy, im on the fence. On one hand i want to see(obviously), but on the other hand, i like to use my imagination until the moment, however that moment unfolds. That said, use your instincts ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No no I'm not deciding whether to put a fanny picture on or not, it's a firm not, to give an idea it just looks like a beak or homer simpsons mouth or pac man. " At least you didn't say 'tesco pre packed chicken' | |||
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"Plus there no need for graphicness unless specificly asked for, from anyone! " There's no need to show what the photographee has had up her last night, but some nicely manicured red nails just holding the a lips slightly apart to reveal the inner pinkness and pleasures therein is good for me ![]() | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" No sometimes its good to be the odd one out so please don't but do feel free to fill my inbox with it if the urge to post strikes. #helpingout ![]() | |||
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"My messages were more graphic but at the time it matched what I was looking for so it worked for me. When it stopped working for me in the way I wanted, I just hid it. The only negative messages I received were from women. *shrugs* I think you just do what feels right for your profile really - some men will love them, some won't (as cliched as that is!)." Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding? | |||
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"Can genital pics ever be 'tasteful'?" A firm no from me. | |||
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"Can genital pics ever be 'tasteful'?" Absolutely they can if they're well taken and arty, or sensually shot | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" once you've seen one Fanny you've seen em all ![]() | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" Our fanny/dick picks are for friends only, we found exactly the same problem as you did. | |||
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"No no I'm not deciding whether to put a fanny picture on or not, it's a firm not, to give an idea it just looks like a beak or homer simpsons mouth or pac man. " I suppose you have to draw a line somewhere... preferably straight down the middle ![]() | |||
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"Can genital pics ever be 'tasteful'?" Runs out ye olde cliché, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I know for a fact that you are a beautiful woman, and I have never seen any of your bits. Intrigue is part of a person's persona I suppose, I don't show mine cos I'm very shy ![]() | |||
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"If you ladies wish to be helpful can you insert a sky remote into your vag'.. you know so I know if I'll fit.. Thanks for your cooperation.. ![]() I don't own a sky remote ![]() | |||
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"If you ladies wish to be helpful can you insert a sky remote into your vag'.. you know so I know if I'll fit.. Thanks for your cooperation.. ![]() ![]() Deodorant can will suffice.. if you're very tight one of those mini ones.. anything really just so I can compare .... for those ladies who are particularly big down there pringles can or cans if you like dvp obviously .. | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now " I cringe at that word also. | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now I cringe at that word also. " Hey Fanny | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now I cringe at that word also. Hey Fanny " How do you know my middle name? | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now I cringe at that word also. Hey Fanny How do you know my middle name? " Kevin told me | |||
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"I'll never have a vag shot on fab. If we're not playing then I see no reason why anyone should see it. And in the unlikely event I'm outed there's no pictures in my profile I'd be embarrassed about being made public. I wear far less on holiday so underwear and partially clothed are no big deal. However fanny out and legs akimbo would be an issue. " ![]() | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now I cringe at that word also. Hey Fanny How do you know my middle name? Kevin told me " Bloody Kevin has a big mouth. | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now I cringe at that word also. Hey Fanny How do you know my middle name? Kevin told me Bloody Kevin has a big mouth. " TELL ME ABT IT ! WE CALL IT THE TUNNEL AT WORK ! #LONGLIFETOCAPITALLETTER | |||
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"If you ladies wish to be helpful can you insert a sky remote into your vag'.. you know so I know if I'll fit.. Thanks for your cooperation.. ![]() There was a woman somewhere on here that did just that. I think she put a condom on the remote. Got to consider germs ![]() | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now " No mi mams a fanny mi dads a fanny ![]() | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now No mi mams a fanny mi dads a fanny ![]() Me Grans a Fanny too but she still likes to be called clit for short | |||
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"Isn’t the word fanny so outdated these days I thought only the younger immature generation only used that name. Thier are far better names for it now No mi mams a fanny mi dads a fanny ![]() ![]() | |||
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"If you ladies wish to be helpful can you insert a sky remote into your vag'.. you know so I know if I'll fit.. Thanks for your cooperation.. ![]() I've only got a Virgin. Sorry. | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" Not at all . It doesn’t have to held wide open , but a nice fanny pic is a useful tool , just as much as a nice cock pic is . We certainly don’t become more less polite or crude when there’s a fanny pic on show | |||
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" Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding?" Thanks! Yeah, back in the day it did well. It's oddly liberating but meh. Are you planning on doing one? | |||
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" Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding? Thanks! Yeah, back in the day it did well. It's oddly liberating but meh. Are you planning on doing one? " No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. | |||
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"Can genital pics ever be 'tasteful'?" Not the close ups, no. | |||
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" No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. " Ach. As much as I would like to think it wouldn't be the case (and there probably have been times where it hasn't mattered and there will be more) I think you might be right. You could think the right one might not care or actually enjoy seeing you with those photos? | |||
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" Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding? Thanks! Yeah, back in the day it did well. It's oddly liberating but meh. Are you planning on doing one? No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. " So boobs are ok? ![]() | |||
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" No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. Ach. As much as I would like to think it wouldn't be the case (and there probably have been times where it hasn't mattered and there will be more) I think you might be right. You could think the right one might not care or actually enjoy seeing you with those photos? " I met him another 5 times after he first said that and when I asked him about it he said women on here are ok to fuck but he'd never meet anyone more than once, obviously I said what about me and he said if he'd met me in a night out it would be different, he wouldn't want other men seeing intimate pictures of a potential gf as it was off putting! So even if he was backwards with his views and in the minority, it's not something I want to risk again! | |||
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" Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding? Thanks! Yeah, back in the day it did well. It's oddly liberating but meh. Are you planning on doing one? No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. So boobs are ok? ![]() I don't have the same relationship with my boobs as most women, they don't feel as personal. Mine are enhanced so although they're mine, to me they're just silicone with my skin and nipples on them! | |||
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"I've done it in the past on here but found it attracted messages that were quite graphic and less polite. I'll happily send fanny pictures to someone I'm speaking to with a view to meeting as it's only fair they see what they'll get, but, I won't have public fanny pictures anymore. What do guys think of women that have public fanny pics? Women that have them do you find your messages are less polite?" If you’ve got a beautiful fanny you should show it off, or if it’s a body photo then yeah show it off. But don’t have it next to a Sky remote though. | |||
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" Ahhh the quim, was a tasteful one though. Didn't you say it was on 17k fans before it went into hiding? Thanks! Yeah, back in the day it did well. It's oddly liberating but meh. Are you planning on doing one? No, I have that guys words etched into memory, "if you want someone to be exclusive to you try not being on a sex site with pictures of yourself with your fanny out love!" I think it would detract from what I'm looking for. So boobs are ok? ![]() I get that. I think I meant in a way that if you wanted to attract a certain type of guy then having boobs out may have the same effect. I wouldn’t be attracted to the type of guy that judges on things like that but would it bother you? | |||
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"Prefer the teasing mystery of what's hidden downstairs.." You have amazing teeth ![]() | |||
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"Prefer the teasing mystery of what's hidden downstairs.. You have amazing teeth ![]() Why thank you, Ms! You have a lovely set of nashers yourself! ![]() | |||
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"It’s an interesting question, personally I don’t feel that it’s necessary to see ‘it’ before a meet as I’m attracted to a person not a body part. Speaking as a man (in a non-spokesperson capacity) I think that it’s very different from where certain ladies want to see a cock before they meet and so a degree of mystery is fine. However, if there were pictures then it wouldn’t sway me either way. This is quite a long post in order to declare myself firmly on the fence! " ![]() | |||
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"Sprinkle them in amongst other pics and its not too bad. Im not so keen on the just been used look but I'm sure plenty are. ![]() It depends what it’s just been used for... If you’ve been using it because you forgot your bag for life at Tesco then I’d say no | |||
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"Sprinkle them in amongst other pics and its not too bad. Im not so keen on the just been used look but I'm sure plenty are. ![]() Veg rack ![]() | |||
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"Sprinkle them in amongst other pics and its not too bad. Im not so keen on the just been used look but I'm sure plenty are. ![]() ![]() Fify ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sprinkle them in amongst other pics and its not too bad. Im not so keen on the just been used look but I'm sure plenty are. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Can I show one of someone hanging out of the back of me?" Do it ![]() | |||
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"Can I show one of someone hanging out of the back of me?" Is it like Jim Carey climbing out of the Rhino in that film? | |||
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"I guess whether you show it on your profile or not would depend on the sort of attention you want. I don't want any attention like that so don't show anything to attract it. It's very odd when ladies upload a couple of pics at a time, showing boobs, bum and fanny, then their status says they are bulk deleting 100's of messages or they come in here to complain they get less than polite messages. You can't court attention then complain when you get it." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I guess whether you show it on your profile or not would depend on the sort of attention you want. I don't want any attention like that so don't show anything to attract it. It's very odd when ladies upload a couple of pics at a time, showing boobs, bum and fanny, then their status says they are bulk deleting 100's of messages or they come in here to complain they get less than polite messages. You can't court attention then complain when you get it." I can court attention, but I expect respectful attention. Just because my nips are out doesn’t mean it’s ok to assume you can call me names, expect sex or suggest things that would make my dog quiver in fear. | |||
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"I guess whether you show it on your profile or not would depend on the sort of attention you want. I don't want any attention like that so don't show anything to attract it. It's very odd when ladies upload a couple of pics at a time, showing boobs, bum and fanny, then their status says they are bulk deleting 100's of messages or they come in here to complain they get less than polite messages. You can't court attention then complain when you get it. I can court attention, but I expect respectful attention. Just because my nips are out doesn’t mean it’s ok to assume you can call me names, expect sex or suggest things that would make my dog quiver in fear." Quite right too ![]() | |||
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"Yes please - any and all. ![]() only 3!!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sprinkle them in amongst other pics and its not too bad. Im not so keen on the just been used look but I'm sure plenty are. ![]() What about for my Waitrose shopping? | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf " Hmmm... ![]() | |||
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"I wonder how a man/men would feel if they met me then found I had a hairy pussy, when I undressed. " I warn them. I've been told I'm dirty for remaining natural and have had people refuse to reciprocate oral. On the other hand, lots love it - especially as it's silky soft as the hair is not blunted by blades. | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf Hmmm... ![]() Of course you're not manky, as your final sentence testifies. But my god, what a cruel and immature thing to say to you. I'm sure you'd agree everyone's entitled to call a halt to proceedings at any time but why on earth didn't he make up some tactful and non hurtful excuse like feeling ill or similar? ![]() | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf Hmmm... ![]() ![]() I don't believe any woman has a manky vulva. The terms used here, and elsewhere, to shame us because we don't have the ideal porn ready image of a vulva annoy me. I have no idea why the man who ran away couldn't be more tactful. He was my third sexual encounter after 14 years of celibacy. I found it funny. The man I was seeing and trusted was far ruder, in my view. | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf Hmmm... ![]() ![]() I was blunt with a guy who hadn’t groomed at all as I can’t do hair. I told him I couldn’t do it as I nearly gagged looking at it. He was a proper date and was super sarcastic and knew he could take it. If it was anyone else, I would just avoid oral full stop and not say anything. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them." I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf Hmmm... ![]() ![]() I've had a guy on all 4's whilst I wiped his bum hole with cotton wool dipped in rose water then applied hair removal cream to his arse hole, blew on the hoop and wanked him whilst the cream developed, wiped it off again with cotton wool dipped in rose water, then stuck my tongue up his arse to ensure it's smoothness because I don't like hairy bum holes. I've done it with a few guys but they didn't mind. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) " Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() | |||
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"Some them are manky tbf Hmmm... ![]() ![]() I had a 3some with a friend and the guy wanted us to shave him. That was fun. ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() I love things like that, ha. I need to feel the love for her again. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() Put some Adele on, light some candles, and have a girl’s night in ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() I may pour her a glass of vino | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() Guys don’t need classes to bond with our cocks, it’s getting us to leave the bloody things alone that many need classes for! | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() Haha, this reminds me of the best vagina picture I ever saw on Fab. Drinking straw and googly eyes ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() I think you can still be classy and show your fanny, depends on the fanny and the photo. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() I struggle to leave them alone too ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() I respect your opinion, but you are wrong! ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() Nope, I’m not doing one. ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() You have a classy fanny! | |||
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"I wonder how a man/men would feel if they met me then found I had a hairy pussy, when I undressed. I warn them. I've been told I'm dirty for remaining natural and have had people refuse to reciprocate oral. On the other hand, lots love it - especially as it's silky soft as the hair is not blunted by blades. " I usually let them know so they can back out if it repulses them. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Googly eyes sound so cute though ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe it should be the next weekend challenge ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() Honestly they can be a thing of beauty. | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() If you are talking about a bum American style then yes, you could take a classy pic but sorry my fellow Devonian, I disagree that the lady garden can look classy. ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() Agreed, some do look very nice. I just prefer somethings to remain unseen until the right moment. If you know what I mean? | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() Case in point. | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() Like a kinder surprise | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() Exactly, except if a toy car fell out of a fanny I’d be concerned ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() I’m sure there are pictures of that on here! | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() What if at the right moment you find it looks like a dropped kebab, then you’ll be all note to self, should have seen a photo of her fanny first ! | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() Seen a jack Daniels bottle once, but I don’t think they come in kinders ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() DON'T do it at the STP. I don't want to lose my deposit. | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I so wish I was coming! | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() I like kebab ![]() | |||
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"I’m happy for people to see my vagina if they want... I’m rather fond of mine. Also, if people want to show theirs, all power to them. I’m not showing you mine!! Ha. (Trying to think what I have in my private pics that you may have seen) Haha. It reminds me of a class in our area that I saw the other day where you go and bond with your vagina! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Don’t worry, I definitely won’t and BEG is away I think. | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah, but dropped ones ?! | |||
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"People on a swinging site talking about class. Never fails to amuse..." There are classy swingers out there. | |||
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"People on a swinging site talking about class. Never fails to amuse..." You forgot to roll your eyes | |||
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"People on a swinging site talking about class. Never fails to amuse... There are classy swingers out there. " Oh you mean those who think their way of swinging is superior to others? Yeah. I know. | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() I have a kebab picture ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly never bothered me in person what a woman’s fanny looks like. I’m sure my cock isn’t the nicest looking cock out there | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() Is it one of those angry looking ones or the cute, sleepy ones? | |||
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"People on a swinging site talking about class. Never fails to amuse... There are classy swingers out there. Oh you mean those who think their way of swinging is superior to others? Yeah. I know. " Do you think that swingers can’t be classy? | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() I don’t know, it hangs off my body and i piss out of it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Don’t show fanny, stay classy ![]() ![]() ![]() What does a sleep one look like? (I may regret asking that) | |||
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"People on a swinging site talking about class. Never fails to amuse... There are classy swingers out there. Oh you mean those who think their way of swinging is superior to others? Yeah. I know. Do you think that swingers can’t be classy? " I think that those that need to let everyone know how classy they are aren't. And swinging isn't what I would call a classy pastime no matter what spin you try and put on it. | |||
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