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"Out of interest, where did the UK finish on the said list? " Pretty bad, 38th /70 countries. The researchers, gallup international do several indexes. In the "economic optimism index" the UK was the 9th most pessimistic country. | |||
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"Do you want a hygge, Chris? " Yes, discovering those facts has put me in the mood to celebrate | |||
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"Are the Chinese too scared to say they aren't happy?" Scared of what? | |||
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"What does make people happy and what %age of a country has to be happy before they declare it a happy state? Who do they ask?" They ask a random sample of people whether, in general they feel very happy, happy, neutral, unhappy or very unhappy. They added the very happy and unhappy and then minus the unhappy and very unhappy. 59% is average. | |||
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"We're often told that nordic countries are so fucking happy. This primarily comes from the UN Happiness Index that told us between 2014 - 2016, the top 5 happiest countries were Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland and Finland. The UN was also kind enough to do some regression analysis on their data, which magically showed that the things that make people happy are the things the UN promotes, such as anti-corruption - how convinient. However, upon closer inspection, it becomes very evidence that the UN Happiness Index does not measure happiness at all. In fact it takes happiness measurements and then bastardised them with other measurements to get the result it wanted. The keen readers will be aware that statistics 101 says you can't combine different distributions, but they did anyway. If we go to the base data that actually asked people if they were happy. We see a very different picture. 1-5 being: Fiji, Colombia, China, Philippines and Indonesia. So much for anti corruption making people happy. If we look at the UNs top 5, 4 of them are below the global average in happiness with Finland getting a stinking score that is even worse than the UK. The only one to beat the average was Iceland, which came 15th and that's a country so small it shares a postcode with Greenland. So next time someone tells you that nordic countries are really wonderful, you can correct them. " The women are fit though | |||
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"I don't believe it. Statistics are always 100% truthful and correct. " Bad ones get exposed, which is what's happening here. | |||
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"We're often told that nordic countries are so fucking happy. This primarily comes from the UN Happiness Index that told us between 2014 - 2016, the top 5 happiest countries were Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland and Finland. The UN was also kind enough to do some regression analysis on their data, which magically showed that the things that make people happy are the things the UN promotes, such as anti-corruption - how convinient. However, upon closer inspection, it becomes very evidence that the UN Happiness Index does not measure happiness at all. In fact it takes happiness measurements and then bastardised them with other measurements to get the result it wanted. The keen readers will be aware that statistics 101 says you can't combine different distributions, but they did anyway. If we go to the base data that actually asked people if they were happy. We see a very different picture. 1-5 being: Fiji, Colombia, China, Philippines and Indonesia. So much for anti corruption making people happy. If we look at the UNs top 5, 4 of them are below the global average in happiness with Finland getting a stinking score that is even worse than the UK. The only one to beat the average was Iceland, which came 15th and that's a country so small it shares a postcode with Greenland. So next time someone tells you that nordic countries are really wonderful, you can correct them. " Can you break this down into layman’s terms please ? Thanks in Advance X Mr T. Impala Devon England | |||
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"The UN said some people were really happy He disagrees Anyone who has met a Scandinavian and posted here says that they are pretty happy people in their experience The rest of Fab doesn’t really care Kthx" I take from it that we should aspire to be more like Colombia and less like Norway. | |||
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"The UN said some people were really happy He disagrees Anyone who has met a Scandinavian and posted here says that they are pretty happy people in their experience The rest of Fab doesn’t really care Kthx" Close. The UN took some data that said that asians and south Americans were very happy. They turned it into a report that said asians and south Americans were sad, but northern Europeans were happy. Their lies got exposed. Some people know some happy northern Europeans. People that don't care are free to read the threads they do care about. | |||
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"I don't believe it. Statistics are always 100% truthful and correct. Bad ones get exposed, which is what's happening here. " Who assessed the stats and found that they were twisting them for their own agenda? Good to expose the lies. But I'd imagine most big organisations lie to make their own cause look favourable. | |||
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"The UN said some people were really happy He disagrees Anyone who has met a Scandinavian and posted here says that they are pretty happy people in their experience The rest of Fab doesn’t really care Kthx I take from it that we should aspire to be more like Colombia and less like Norway. " No, the UN is trying to get you to aspire to be live Norway, which just happens to align well with their core values. The reality is that the UN is fudging data and what really makes people happy is far too complicated to fit into a one size fits all model. | |||
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"The UN said some people were really happy He disagrees Anyone who has met a Scandinavian and posted here says that they are pretty happy people in their experience The rest of Fab doesn’t really care Kthx I take from it that we should aspire to be more like Colombia and less like Norway. No, the UN is trying to get you to aspire to be live Norway, which just happens to align well with their core values. The reality is that the UN is fudging data and what really makes people happy is far too complicated to fit into a one size fits all model." Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. Given migration statistics that tends to be general world opinion too. People voting with their feet as it were. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round | |||
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"I don't believe it. Statistics are always 100% truthful and correct. Bad ones get exposed, which is what's happening here. Who assessed the stats and found that they were twisting them for their own agenda? Good to expose the lies. But I'd imagine most big organisations lie to make their own cause look favourable. " A lot of journalists found it odd that the UN hadn't done any new research, but their findings didn't match any of the original research. You can kind of imagine a conversation like: Journalist: "interesting that UN report about happiness" Pew / Gallup analyst: "innit bro" Journalist: "so why is northern Europe so happy?" Pew / Gallup analyst: "wot da fuck you talking about bro?" Journalist: "the UN said that you said they were really happy" Pew / Gallup analyst: "errr nope" | |||
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"The UN said some people were really happy He disagrees Anyone who has met a Scandinavian and posted here says that they are pretty happy people in their experience The rest of Fab doesn’t really care Kthx I take from it that we should aspire to be more like Colombia and less like Norway. No, the UN is trying to get you to aspire to be live Norway, which just happens to align well with their core values. The reality is that the UN is fudging data and what really makes people happy is far too complicated to fit into a one size fits all model. Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. Given migration statistics that tends to be general world opinion too. People voting with their feet as it were. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round " I'd rather have £10m than £1m but it doesn't follow that I'd automatically be happier if i did. | |||
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"We're often told that nordic countries are so fucking happy. This primarily comes from the UN Happiness Index that told us between 2014 - 2016, the top 5 happiest countries were Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland and Finland. The UN was also kind enough to do some regression analysis on their data, which magically showed that the things that make people happy are the things the UN promotes, such as anti-corruption - how convinient. However, upon closer inspection, it becomes very evidence that the UN Happiness Index does not measure happiness at all. In fact it takes happiness measurements and then bastardised them with other measurements to get the result it wanted. The keen readers will be aware that statistics 101 says you can't combine different distributions, but they did anyway. If we go to the base data that actually asked people if they were happy. We see a very different picture. 1-5 being: Fiji, Colombia, China, Philippines and Indonesia. So much for anti corruption making people happy. If we look at the UNs top 5, 4 of them are below the global average in happiness with Finland getting a stinking score that is even worse than the UK. The only one to beat the average was Iceland, which came 15th and that's a country so small it shares a postcode with Greenland. So next time someone tells you that nordic countries are really wonderful, you can correct them. " I love the Nordic country's and the people as I'm visiting regularly with work. I Find our people much more gloomier although you can't generalise. | |||
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" Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round " Haha me too | |||
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" Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round Haha me too "You'd rather date a Columbian woman though | |||
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" Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round Haha me too
You'd rather date a Columbian woman though "Well you could be right there haha | |||
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"Are the Chinese too scared to say they aren't happy? Scared of what? " The establishment. I saw a very depressing documentary about people living in a city of cages. Each person had a small cage to live in and there were hundreds of them, maybe thousands. They didn't look very happy. I wonder who is asked about their happiness levels. | |||
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" Put it this way, I'd rather live in Norway than Colombia. If life is generally happier in Colombia one would expect it to be the other way round Haha me too
You'd rather date a Columbian woman though " | |||
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"Are the Chinese too scared to say they aren't happy? Scared of what? The establishment. I saw a very depressing documentary about people living in a city of cages. Each person had a small cage to live in and there were hundreds of them, maybe thousands. They didn't look very happy. I wonder who is asked about their happiness levels. " But that's like me showing a chinese person a video of all the heroin addicts in Reading (4th highest in the UK) and implying that British people can't be very happy if some people are living like that. | |||
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"Are the Chinese too scared to say they aren't happy? Scared of what? The establishment. I saw a very depressing documentary about people living in a city of cages. Each person had a small cage to live in and there were hundreds of them, maybe thousands. They didn't look very happy. I wonder who is asked about their happiness levels. But that's like me showing a chinese person a video of all the heroin addicts in Reading (4th highest in the UK) and implying that British people can't be very happy if some people are living like that. " Without knowing who they asked, or how many they asked, how do we know how accurate it is? I used to live in the most depressing borough in London. I think we're somewhere in the middle now. How do they measure that? | |||
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"Are the Chinese too scared to say they aren't happy? Scared of what? The establishment. I saw a very depressing documentary about people living in a city of cages. Each person had a small cage to live in and there were hundreds of them, maybe thousands. They didn't look very happy. I wonder who is asked about their happiness levels. But that's like me showing a chinese person a video of all the heroin addicts in Reading (4th highest in the UK) and implying that British people can't be very happy if some people are living like that. Without knowing who they asked, or how many they asked, how do we know how accurate it is? I used to live in the most depressing borough in London. I think we're somewhere in the middle now. How do they measure that? " Those are all issues standard to any poll. It's gallups job to control for those things. They do this survey each year, they surveyed 53,769 people in 2017. If they are surveying that many people each year then they build up a representative sample. | |||
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"My Swedish friend told me that Sweden had the highest rate of young male suicides. " To be honest I work in Sweden a fair bit and I don't think that's actually true and more of a myth(might be wrong though) I know some struggle with the long dark winters but don't we all. I might google the stats later but it's to nice and a riverside pub is calling my name | |||
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