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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hi folks I’m trying to find out how long a company will hold records on me. It’s to do with a role I held in 2005 to 2006. All help appreciated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s likely that they still will in that time frame, depending on the role you held. Why not just contact their HR department and ask the direct question?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It’s likely that they still will in that time frame, depending on the role you held. Why not just contact their HR department and ask the direct question? "
long story lol

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Any problems and just make a request for your personal information under the Data Protection Act. Subject access request, I think it is called.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Any problems and just make a request for your personal information under the Data Protection Act. Subject access request, I think it is called."
Hi do you work in HR

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi folks I’m trying to find out how long a company will hold records on me. It’s to do with a role I held in 2005 to 2006. All help appreciated "

Thought you asked this yesterday

By law they have to keep it 10 years. The personal stuff may now be achieved. There will still be a trail you worked there at that time.

Obviously something is bothering you about this as its the 2nd post in many days and the dates are specific

Best advice ask citizens advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And my job requires HR in it so yes in know

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

This is your 2nd request in as many days so it sounds a bit more complex than you are letting on!

In general terms, companies in the UK retain employee records for at least 6 years, especially relating to Tax & similar matters.

Some companies will retain information for longer.

That's companies based within the UK; any based in Eire or in Europe will have different rules.

Sounds like you need to speak to either Citizens Advice or through them, to an Employment specialist lawyer. Also, try ACAS who can supply details.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"And my job requires HR in it so yes in know "
yes something is bothering me. May I mail you

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I'd get specific professional advice relevant to northern Ireland (assuming the job was based there) as there are often differences in how the law is applied in Northern Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And my job requires HR in it so yes in know yes something is bothering me. May I mail you "

If u want

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd get specific professional advice relevant to northern Ireland (assuming the job was based there) as there are often differences in how the law is applied in Northern Ireland "
The job was based in UK

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This is your 2nd request in as many days so it sounds a bit more complex than you are letting on!

In general terms, companies in the UK retain employee records for at least 6 years, especially relating to Tax & similar matters.

Some companies will retain information for longer.

That's companies based within the UK; any based in Eire or in Europe will have different rules.

Sounds like you need to speak to either Citizens Advice or through them, to an Employment specialist lawyer. Also, try ACAS who can supply details."

it is yes.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"It’s likely that they still will in that time frame, depending on the role you held. Why not just contact their HR department and ask the direct question? long story lol "

It doesn't matter if it's a long story or not, the days of them being able to with hold info to annoy you are over.

Make a request and they will be s..t scared of getting fined so they will be helpful.

Different info requires company's to hold it for different time periods ie CCTV, the sign in book in reception Your cv are all different

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Credit where it's due op

This has to be the best new attempt to get a fab shag I've seen for ages

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Credit where it's due op

This has to be the best new attempt to get a fab shag I've seen for ages "

nothing to do with a shag I just want to know if they will hold my records still

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Credit where it's due op

This has to be the best new attempt to get a fab shag I've seen for ages nothing to do with a shag I just want to know if they will hold my records still

"

Ask them !

They have to comply these days or you can get them fined etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The company would have to have a very compelling reason not to delete any data on you if you request them to do so.


"

In general terms, companies in the UK retain employee records for at least 6 years, especially relating to Tax & similar matters.

Some companies will retain information for longer.

That's companies based within the UK; any based in Eire or in Europe will have different rules.

Sounds like you need to speak to either Citizens Advice or through them, to an Employment specialist lawyer. Also, try ACAS who can supply details."

Legally, payroll is the same as non public accounts - 3 tax years plus current. Most companies do nothing to delete older records though. Even working in a bureau with thousands of payrolls, we've not had one data deletion request from an employer, even since GDPR.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was about to say... surely companies only keep it the period they legally should now and delete under GDPR?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it "

I actually told you!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it "

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

I actually told you!"

Op listen to what people are telling you, it's all covered by gdpr now and all the info is available on line as to your rights etc

Good luck hope you sort it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

I actually told you!

Op listen to what people are telling you, it's all covered by gdpr now and all the info is available on line as to your rights etc

Good luck hope you sort it"

Thanks Mate. I just am

Panicking! Thanks for help

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By *eordie JoJoTV/TS
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Hi folks I’m trying to find out how long a company will hold records on me. It’s to do with a role I held in 2005 to 2006. All help appreciated "

Depends .... companies hold data for a set amount of years however your payroll dept keep your record the longest and Data protection Act has just changed to GDPR ....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. "

Hi can

I msg you on this

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

I actually told you!"

What I’m

Saying is there is no law on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Paper trail will always be linked

If the company has a good reason they can keep data but has to be a justification for this

And the reason the op gave me would be a reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

I actually told you! What I’m

Saying is there is no law on it "

There is a law!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

I actually told you! What I’m

Saying is there is no law on it "

Omg.... Are you specifically ignoring all the people that are telling you there is? GDPR superceded the data protection act and specifically sets out employers obligations on data retention!

Google it, educate yourself!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. Hi can

I msg you on this "

Yes OK

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. Hi can

I msg you on this

Yes OK "

I told him and still does not believe me

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. Hi can

I msg you on this

Yes OK

I told him and still does not believe me"

I do believe you! I’m

Just not up to date with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. Hi can

I msg you on this

Yes OK

I told him and still does not believe me I do believe you! I’m

Just not up to date with it."

Well im sure we will see another post on the subject lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think no one knows really. There does not seem to be a hard and fast rule on it

There is. Its covered by the GDPR that came into effect this year. Go to the information commissioners office website and read up on it.

The reality is though that most companies will keep things for longer if their destruction policy isn't adhered to.

Your best bet is to submit a data subject access request to the companies head office and request any and all information pertaining to yourself. It used to cost about a tenner but think it has to be free now. Hi can

I msg you on this

Yes OK

I told him and still does not believe me I do believe you! I’m

Just not up to date with it.

Well im sure we will see another post on the subject lol"

most likely lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP; it might help if you stopped talking in riddles and giving snippets of info. Get to the point, explain the situation and people may be able to offer advice.

Thus far in the last week you’ve asked about taking a new job, if companies retain records of previous employees (twice) and about lying on a CV.

In summary; yes companies retain records, yes you can ask them specifically if they do, I wouldn’t lie on a CV if I were you (particularly if you’re considering taking a job under less than truthful circumstances when it’s likely that a quick peruse of ex-staff records would expose any untruths).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok. So In a nut shell I omitted employement from a cv. I applied for a job in which after interview I’ve been successful. The company I’ve been successful with now owns the company i worked with in 2005. My question is will the company retain those records from 2005? Yes I was wrong to omit it (i don’t need the moral lecture). The reason was I had to resign due to medical reasons and oftem it’s easier to omit it Than explain. So my question is simple will the company from 2005 still hold my records? They’ve been bought over twice since 2005.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. "
I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records? "

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses. "

Like he was told earlier lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses. "

I’m just going to have to see what happens. So In a nut shell there is no hard and fast rule. Thanks everyone for your help. I do appreciate it

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Come on op tell us what you've done !

Bosses wife ?

Bosses daughter ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses.

Like he was told earlier lol"

No harm. No one has a definitive answer to this. They may or may not have records. In my logical simple mind GDRP states records should be keep for 6 years after leaving employment. But over and the over again in this tread I’m

Being told they may still

Have records. In my simple mind how can they LEGALLY hold documents on me when legislators introduced GDRP in 2018 and states records should not be held after 6 years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Come on op tell us what you've done !

Bosses wife ?

Bosses daughter ?

"

Ok. So In a nut shell I omitted employement from a cv. I applied for a job in which after interview I’ve been successful. The company I’ve been successful with now owns the company i worked with in 2005. My question is will the company retain those records from 2005? Yes I was wrong to omit it (i don’t need the moral lecture). The reason was I had to resign due to medical reasons and oftem it’s easier to omit it Than explain. So my question is simple will the company from 2005 still hold my records? They’ve been bought over twice since 2005.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses.

Like he was told earlier lol No harm. No one has a definitive answer to this. They may or may not have records. In my logical simple mind GDRP states records should be keep for 6 years after leaving employment. But over and the over again in this tread I’m

Being told they may still

Have records. In my simple mind how can they LEGALLY hold documents on me when legislators introduced GDRP in 2018 and states records should not be held after 6 years. "

Because, as you have previously been told, there are additional clauses which cover a multitude of scenarios. What GDPR does not cover in any shape or form is that they may well have a record of the fact that you were employed. The personnel files and more detailed information will come under GDPR, but there may be legitimate reasons well within the requirements of GDPR which will permit them retention rights beyond the six years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They possibly will have records, it’s unlikely they’ll check. It’s even more unlikely they’d notice. Just be prepared to give a straight, truthful answer in the unlikely event that they ask you. I am ready for that! But I think this is where people including myself are getting mixed up. GDRP states records should be retained for 6 years. So how can they have records?

There are many clauses covering document retention. The base deadline can be extended if the employment falls under certain EH&S legislation such as exposure or potential exposure to noise, vibration or asbestos for example. There is an obligation to retain documents where legal clauses dictate, such as potential liability for personal injury claims. The fact that you worked for them is likely to be on record in any event and that fact is not subject to GDPR changes.

There is much more to consider than merely GDPR, and even that has a plethora of get out clauses.

Like he was told earlier lol No harm. No one has a definitive answer to this. They may or may not have records. In my logical simple mind GDRP states records should be keep for 6 years after leaving employment. But over and the over again in this tread I’m

Being told they may still

Have records. In my simple mind how can they LEGALLY hold documents on me when legislators introduced GDRP in 2018 and states records should not be held after 6 years.

Because, as you have previously been told, there are additional clauses which cover a multitude of scenarios. What GDPR does not cover in any shape or form is that they may well have a record of the fact that you were employed. The personnel files and more detailed information will come under GDPR, but there may be legitimate reasons well within the requirements of GDPR which will permit them retention rights beyond the six years.

"

I understand that. Thanks for your help on the matter. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Come on op tell us what you've done !

Bosses wife ?

Bosses daughter ?

Ok. So In a nut shell I omitted employement from a cv. I applied for a job in which after interview I’ve been successful. The company I’ve been successful with now owns the company i worked with in 2005. My question is will the company retain those records from 2005? Yes I was wrong to omit it (i don’t need the moral lecture). The reason was I had to resign due to medical reasons and oftem it’s easier to omit it Than explain. So my question is simple will the company from 2005 still hold my records? They’ve been bought over twice since 2005."

Unlikely but how can any of us answer that question unless we work at the company youre on about and can look into it. I.e the only definitive way you will know is to ask for a subject access request (as someone has already said) but obviously in doing so you’re letting the cat out of the bag

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Come on op tell us what you've done !

Bosses wife ?

Bosses daughter ?

Ok. So In a nut shell I omitted employement from a cv. I applied for a job in which after interview I’ve been successful. The company I’ve been successful with now owns the company i worked with in 2005. My question is will the company retain those records from 2005? Yes I was wrong to omit it (i don’t need the moral lecture). The reason was I had to resign due to medical reasons and oftem it’s easier to omit it Than explain. So my question is simple will the company from 2005 still hold my records? They’ve been bought over twice since 2005.

Unlikely but how can any of us answer that question unless we work at the company youre on about and can look into it. I.e the only definitive way you will know is to ask for a subject access request (as someone has already said) but obviously in doing so you’re letting the cat out of the bag "

I know no one can Defo

Say. I made a error of judgement on this and it’s mentally annoying me now! I’ll just have to see what happens. In my eyes I think it will be deleted. But i am aware it may not be deleted. I’ll keep

You posted. And thanks everyone for your help I do appreciate it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

And may I add the company has changed ownership twice some my employement there. I simply for the life of me see why they would retain info on a graduate who stayed in the job 6 months and resigned of his own accord.

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