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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents?" It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002" Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead?" Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. " Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. | |||
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The parents tried what they could but a whole load of them have now taken their children to anothre school. | |||
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"I have a friend with this problem. One child making life hell for the others. The head teacher makes the right noises but does nothing. Bully kid get's 'awards' if he's good He's properly violent too.
The parents tried what they could but a whole load of them have now taken their children to anothre school."Forgot to add we're talking about 6 year olds here | |||
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"I've gone into mums work place. Ur kid hurts my kid I will hurt u. Take the fine and give a lesson xxx " My dad did that. A brother and sister pulled my brother off his bike and started dropping BRICKS on him, luckily they mostly missed, one cracked a cheekbone and he had a few scrapes. They had awful childhoods (all have ended up in care) so the police convinced my mum and dad not to press charges. My dad had already spoken to the parents so my dad went down with a baseball bat and threatened the parents again. Didn’t hit him, but the fuckers were so out their face on drugs and drink they wouldn’t have even remembered it | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes." Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view "That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail. | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact." My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view
That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail."It was awful. I was so grateful that I wasn’t punished by the teachers, I think the boy I hit was pretty embarrassed, hence why he didn’t tell his parents or anything. But a few teachers witnessed this (it was outside the guidance base) and a hell of a lot of children witnessed it too. It used to break my heart when he would come home from school refusing to speak to anyone because he had been bullied. Or he would be in tears saying he was better off dead will always have his back | |||
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"I've gone into mums work place. Ur kid hurts my kid I will hurt u. Take the fine and give a lesson xxx My dad did that. A brother and sister pulled my brother off his bike and started dropping BRICKS on him, luckily they mostly missed, one cracked a cheekbone and he had a few scrapes. They had awful childhoods (all have ended up in care) so the police convinced my mum and dad not to press charges. My dad had already spoken to the parents so my dad went down with a baseball bat and threatened the parents again. Didn’t hit him, but the fuckers were so out their face on drugs and drink they wouldn’t have even remembered it"  fight fire with fire is all we got in this generation | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. " I also teach my daughter to fight back as hard as she can, regardless of age/gender. It's the pro active way to deal with bullies. | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. I also teach my daughter to fight back as hard as she can, regardless of age/gender. It's the pro active way to deal with bullies." And yes if a man attacked me, damn right I would fight back with everything I had. I may not win but I would hurt him and make him think twice. | |||
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"My dad is a boxing coach and does boxing himself and has taught both my younger sisters how to do a good punch. Violence is not something we as a family agree with but we’ve been taught to defend ourselves if we get hit first " Wise man your Dad  | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact." Years ago kids were taught to stick up for themselves, if my brother came home and said he was being bullied, my dad would thrash him! My uncle taught my brother how to fight properly as he used to do some boxing. Once the bullies discovered my brother could fight he was bullied no more. Bullies are weak individuals with even weaker parents!!! | |||
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"My dad is a boxing coach and does boxing himself and has taught both my younger sisters how to do a good punch. Violence is not something we as a family agree with but we’ve been taught to defend ourselves if we get hit first Wise man your Dad "He’s a good guy bless him 
When my sister was six a ten year old boy lifted up her skirt when she was playing at the park. She was holding a thick tree branch at the time and she just turned around and hit him in the leg with it. His mum went mental, then when my other sister (who was also ten at the time) explained what happened, she told my youngest sister she should have aimed elsewhere, and the kid got a massive telling off. | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view
That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail.
It was awful. I was so grateful that I wasn’t punished by the teachers, I think the boy I hit was pretty embarrassed, hence why he didn’t tell his parents or anything. But a few teachers witnessed this (it was outside the guidance base) and a hell of a lot of children witnessed it too. It used to break my heart when he would come home from school refusing to speak to anyone because he had been bullied. Or he would be in tears saying he was better off dead will always have his back "When children have the ability or strength to fight their bully then that's all well and good,but sometimes that just isn't possible for various reasons like your brother and my daughter. That's when other people have to get involved and protect them. I hope your brother is ok now. | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. Years ago kids were taught to stick up for themselves, if my brother came home and said he was being bullied, my dad would thrash him! My uncle taught my brother how to fight properly as he used to do some boxing. Once the bullies discovered my brother could fight he was bullied no more. Bullies are weak individuals with even weaker parents!!! " My dad’s a scary man, usually him turning up at the school was enough to scare them. I had an ex batter me when I was 14 and continued to send me abusive text messages and would wait outside the school for me, so my dad turned up and sat with him
My brother wouldn’t tell us who was bullying him, I know there was a large group of friends and bless, some defended my brother from their own friends and others bullied my brother, but my brother wouldn’t name names and the school wouldn’t either due to confidentially | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. I also teach my daughter to fight back as hard as she can, regardless of age/gender. It's the pro active way to deal with bullies." I don't agree with that as it makes them as bad as the bully... | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. I also teach my daughter to fight back as hard as she can, regardless of age/gender. It's the pro active way to deal with bullies. And yes if a man attacked me, damn right I would fight back with everything I had. I may not win but I would hurt him and make him think twice." Yeah I'm sure he'll be thinking twice whilst he's walking away and you're left on the floor... | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view
That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail.
It was awful. I was so grateful that I wasn’t punished by the teachers, I think the boy I hit was pretty embarrassed, hence why he didn’t tell his parents or anything. But a few teachers witnessed this (it was outside the guidance base) and a hell of a lot of children witnessed it too. It used to break my heart when he would come home from school refusing to speak to anyone because he had been bullied. Or he would be in tears saying he was better off dead will always have his back
When children have the ability or strength to fight their bully then that's all well and good,but sometimes that just isn't possible for various reasons like your brother and my daughter. That's when other people have to get involved and protect them.
I hope your brother is ok now."He’s 20 now and has been to college and is absolutely loving life, hasn’t been bullied since. At my husband’s stag do I messaged his friends (we’re in a group chat) explaining my brother is autistic and just be nice (they’re lovely guys but I’m so cautious). My brother came home and said he had the best time ever, and all of my husbands friends had made a massive effort to speak with him and spend time with him. I’m honestly tearing up writing this hahaha, soppy git that I am | |||
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"Who did you get done with anyway for appproaching the parents? It's apparently against school policy and none of my business - I shit you not I was told that my child, whilst in school was none of my beeswax. That was in March when i approached one parent, after I'd approached the other parent this week I was given a letter threatening me with sanctions and a fine, under section 206 of the education act 2002 Did the bloody parent type the thing out themselves fucking idiots. Go and ram it right up their arse. Do you have another local school for your child to go to instead? Bullying may happen in the next school, and the next, and the next. Teach your child to be strong and fight back OP. The bully will soon move onto someone else. Sorry but thats nonsense. My daughter when she was in primary school was being pushed against the wall,hit in the stomach and told her mum was going to be burned. My daughter is by no means a weak willed child,the Head Teacher told me they had a huge file on the kid but there wasn't much they could do about him. My daughter isn't violent and why the fuck should she be,she was in primary school for God's sakes. Don't be so narrow minded, it isn't nonsense at all. I'm talking from personal experience with my children. My eldest son I told to turn the other cheek and walk away, he was bullied. We moved schools, he was bullied. My youngest child I told never to throw the first punch, as I don't normally agree with violence, but if he is hurt by someone, then he fights back with twice the force. He no longer gets bullied. Fact. My daughter was 7 you seriously expect her to fight a violent boy,you think she has twice the strength of a violent boy,good god. So if a man attacks you you have the strength to fight back do you,because I know damn well I don't. I also teach my daughter to fight back as hard as she can, regardless of age/gender. It's the pro active way to deal with bullies. And yes if a man attacked me, damn right I would fight back with everything I had. I may not win but I would hurt him and make him think twice. Yeah I'm sure he'll be thinking twice whilst he's walking away and you're left on the floor..." Damn right he will be. | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view
That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail.
It was awful. I was so grateful that I wasn’t punished by the teachers, I think the boy I hit was pretty embarrassed, hence why he didn’t tell his parents or anything. But a few teachers witnessed this (it was outside the guidance base) and a hell of a lot of children witnessed it too. It used to break my heart when he would come home from school refusing to speak to anyone because he had been bullied. Or he would be in tears saying he was better off dead will always have his back
When children have the ability or strength to fight their bully then that's all well and good,but sometimes that just isn't possible for various reasons like your brother and my daughter. That's when other people have to get involved and protect them.
I hope your brother is ok now.
He’s 20 now and has been to college and is absolutely loving life, hasn’t been bullied since. At my husband’s stag do I messaged his friends (we’re in a group chat) explaining my brother is autistic and just be nice (they’re lovely guys but I’m so cautious). My brother came home and said he had the best time ever, and all of my husbands friends had made a massive effort to speak with him and spend time with him. I’m honestly tearing up writing this hahaha, soppy git that I am "Aww that's lovely,thankfully there are good people in this world. | |||
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"My autistic little brother got bullied constantly at school. It got to the point where I was 17 and in my final year at school, and he was 15 and two years below me at school. I saw him getting bullied, and I always got involved which maybe wasn’t ‘cool’ for my brother but he was always very grateful, but this guy (who had bullied him since primary school) turned to me and said ‘no, stop getting involved’ and punched my brother. I pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly, and kneed him in the balls. A teacher picked me up by the waist and moved me away from the situation. And it was NEVER spoken of again, not by the bully, the teachers, my friends, or my brother (apart from him thanking me when we got home). I never agree with violence usually. I hope you get all this sorted out. I would be MORTIFIED if my child was bullying someone - I’d go ballistic! Unfortunately in your case, it seems like learnt behavior. Your poor wee girl
I know the teachers and school staff do their best to prevent this but it can be so difficult. Especially if it is out in the playground and out of view
That's heartbreaking,he's lucky to have you to look after him,especially when other people fail.
It was awful. I was so grateful that I wasn’t punished by the teachers, I think the boy I hit was pretty embarrassed, hence why he didn’t tell his parents or anything. But a few teachers witnessed this (it was outside the guidance base) and a hell of a lot of children witnessed it too. It used to break my heart when he would come home from school refusing to speak to anyone because he had been bullied. Or he would be in tears saying he was better off dead will always have his back
When children have the ability or strength to fight their bully then that's all well and good,but sometimes that just isn't possible for various reasons like your brother and my daughter. That's when other people have to get involved and protect them.
I hope your brother is ok now.
He’s 20 now and has been to college and is absolutely loving life, hasn’t been bullied since. At my husband’s stag do I messaged his friends (we’re in a group chat) explaining my brother is autistic and just be nice (they’re lovely guys but I’m so cautious). My brother came home and said he had the best time ever, and all of my husbands friends had made a massive effort to speak with him and spend time with him. I’m honestly tearing up writing this hahaha, soppy git that I am "You're such a lovely person. So pleased your brother has left the bullies behind in life | |||
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"(I realise my family are coming across pretty violent; I swear, we’re not ) "Whatever the rules, children will fight. Preparing your children for that eventuality is no bad thing
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"Stage 1 Start by writing a formal letter to the school requesting they act to protect your child, try to record instances when your child has been bullied and include those instances in the letter. Ask that time between your child and the bully/bullies is limited, and where not possible, that time together has increased supervision. If you haven’t already started a diary of events, do so now. Stage 2 Any physical or mental injuries take your child to the doctor on each occasion - make sure appointments are made in school time so you have to take your child out of lessons for the appointment - make sure you request from thr teacher any missed work for you to complete at home. Now write a formal letter of complaint to the school - requesting a response in writing and the outcome in writing. Keep that diary of events up to date Stage three Contact the LEA and the EWO and explain the situation to them, particularly emphasise the time off school and educational impact this is having. Contact the local police liaisons officer, in primary school, at that age, the police have little power, but their input, visiting the parents and dishing out a bollocking can sometimes be enough, it also starts a record for legal private or criminal action. Contact your LSCB and explain the situation to them - Be clear you are reporting a safeguarding concern. By now you should have collated a great deal of evidence / you've been keeping that diary of events up to date haven’t you? Pass all this on to the safeguarding team. I would sincerely hope that the situation gets resolved by stage three, but so many school are still in the Stone Age these days with bullying. " That is an excellent piece of advice. | |||
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"If you really want to put the wind up the school make appointment with who is ever in charge and ask to see there code of practice "Hardly terrifying in a school which: values parents and has a close dialogue with them; and one which publishes all such docs on their website. | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting " I was bullied throughout my school life it has impacted me loads, I hid it from my parents by joining school groups so made look like I did stuff or I locked myself in music rooms. I wish I had told my family maybe they could have helped and saved me as now I struggle to make friends, let ppl into my life an trust people even when I work in close team. Your child is lucky to have a parent like you but pls be safe do stuff right speak to the school an police don’t put you or her at risk Good luck and pls don’t let her end up like me | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting " had this with my son school were useless and woukd do nothing .wrote to LEA as school has duty of care to your child on thier property and whilst going to and from school .gave them 14 days to take action or i would involve the police and local press boom sorted within a week .schools LEAs hate bad publicity also kerp a diary of every time something happens at school | |||
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"There's tons of issues to address in this thread- it's hard to know where to start. I'm an ex primary head of 20 years- had 'my own' school; and was seconded to 3 others over the time to help in schools with one problem or another. My daughter has been systematically targeted by the same child over the year, as have others. One of her friends reported they were having issues and her mum went up too same bully. Not surprisingly the school didn't do anything there either until my daughter's friend smacked the bully. Then SHE was in trouble it's a joke In those 20 years, I had dozens of bullying complaints; maybe even a hundred. I consider that about 5 or 6 were bullying. Bullying is targetted, systematic and unwanted attention by one to another. It's not bullying when the school has a nutter on roll who lashes out at anyone within reach. That child should be dealt with of course, but it's not bullying. As for parent on parent action- if you really think that the school can sanction violence or threats- well have a think about it! Finally, if your child tells you they are being bullied, you take it seriously. But it don't make it so. " | |||
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"stop calling it bullying to the school and start using the word safeguarding and follow it up as safeguarding the schools have a duty of care to the children by law that law includes protecting them from harm in school hours as someone said above safeguarding is the way to complain not bullying " Already have to be blunt it shouldn't be about the words used it should be about the school protecting all the children in their care personally I now (having been digging) am so bothered about this (for the bully/child affecting my child in a constant, negative way) that I will be involving social services tomorrow too | |||
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I’ve only got one experience with dealing with bullies and it was when my younger brother was being terrorised by two lads who lived near us.
Our parents trying to deal with their parents didn’t work in several occasions, school was useless.....
I don’t condone violence as the first resort but there’s definitely a place for it. Funnily enough the bullying stopped against my brother when I kicked the fuck out of one of the lads in front of the other.
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"So as a summary. Asking the school to deal with it virtually never works. Confronting their parents rarely works, probably because the parents are the cause. Fighting back works reasonably well and police are an option with 'mini Asbo's. " (I think this is the one and only time I actually agree with you in the forums ) | |||
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"It's always been my biggest fear hence why my kid has done Krav Maga for almost 4 years now and kickboxing. Plus most the kids she's in school with are children to parents that I was in school with or surrounding schools where I would have played the parents in hockey or netball. It's not big or clever but I was scrappy in school and had a rep of being a nutter. A boy 2 school years above my kid does maths lessons with her and last year he hit her across the head with a branch, school said there was an incident and they were dealing with the child but wouldn't say the name. My daughter told me who it was and I went straight to the kids house, I knew the parents from school, simply said I know kids can be bastards but hitting her with a tree branch across the head is dangerous, have a word. They were both apologising profusely and she's never had bother off him again, he hi fives her in school now and picks her flowers (that he's not supposed to do) My daughter can handle herself but I've never been called in to school for her, she takes on the role of protector of all her friends like I was in school. Put your kid in some kind of martial arts club, even if it's just for the confidence it gives you. " Not all kids have your confidence or a parent able to stand up for them - hence why bullying is a very debilitating condition for them | |||
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"So as a summary. Asking the school to deal with it virtually never works. Confronting their parents rarely works, probably because the parents are the cause. Fighting back works reasonably well and police are an option with 'mini Asbo's. (I think this is the one and only time I actually agree with you in the forums ) "Sad though, isn't it | |||
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"Stage 1 Start by writing a formal letter to the school requesting they act to protect your child, try to record instances when your child has been bullied and include those instances in the letter. Ask that time between your child and the bully/bullies is limited, and where not possible, that time together has increased supervision. If you haven’t already started a diary of events, do so now. Stage 2 Any physical or mental injuries take your child to the doctor on each occasion - make sure appointments are made in school time so you have to take your child out of lessons for the appointment - make sure you request from thr teacher any missed work for you to complete at home. Now write a formal letter of complaint to the school - requesting a response in writing and the outcome in writing. Keep that diary of events up to date Stage three Contact the LEA and the EWO and explain the situation to them, particularly emphasise the time off school and educational impact this is having. Contact the local police liaisons officer, in primary school, at that age, the police have little power, but their input, visiting the parents and dishing out a bollocking can sometimes be enough, it also starts a record for legal private or criminal action. Contact your LSCB and explain the situation to them - Be clear you are reporting a safeguarding concern. By now you should have collated a great deal of evidence / you've been keeping that diary of events up to date haven’t you? Pass all this on to the safeguarding team. I would sincerely hope that the situation gets resolved by stage three, but so many school are still in the Stone Age these days with bullying. " LEA local education authority EWO ??. No local primary school has their own Bobby - police told me that when they took a statement from me. But they do have to go in and see staff. LSCB ?? | |||
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"I think this is the nightmare scenario for any of us. Schools are usually shit at this and if their parent won't work with you then you get stuck in no man's land. I do agree with your child fighting back, but females tend to bully in a non-physical way so that doesn't necessarily help. I know there's a point at which I'd frankly attack the father of the kid. But make life as difficult as possible for the school first. " This child is a girl and uses her fists and mouth and there's two mams but no dad (not that that should make a bit of difference) | |||
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"There's tons of issues to address in this thread- it's hard to know where to start. I'm an ex primary head of 20 years- had 'my own' school; and was seconded to 3 others over the time to help in schools with one problem or another. In those 20 years, I had dozens of bullying complaints; maybe even a hundred. I consider that about 5 or 6 were bullying. Bullying is targetted, systematic and unwanted attention by one to another. It's not bullying when the school has a nutter on roll who lashes out at anyone within reach. That child should be dealt with of course, but it's not bullying. As for parent on parent action- if you really think that the school can sanction violence or threats- well have a think about it! Finally, if your child tells you they are being bullied, you take it seriously. But it don't make it so. " I'm sorry, but if any unwanted behaviour causes upset of any kind over a prolonged period of time - then it's bullying. My daughter isn't imagining being smacked (and her form teachers have backed her up on this) and I'm not imagining the lashing out and tears because she's afraid of what's coming next and the teachers don't do anything | |||
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"There's tons of issues to address in this thread- it's hard to know where to start. I'm an ex primary head of 20 years- had 'my own' school; and was seconded to 3 others over the time to help in schools with one problem or another. In those 20 years, I had dozens of bullying complaints; maybe even a hundred. I consider that about 5 or 6 were bullying. Bullying is targetted, systematic and unwanted attention by one to another. It's not bullying when the school has a nutter on roll who lashes out at anyone within reach. That child should be dealt with of course, but it's not bullying. As for parent on parent action- if you really think that the school can sanction violence or threats- well have a think about it! Finally, if your child tells you they are being bullied, you take it seriously. But it don't make it so. " You mention parent on parent action I didn't hit them I approached each mum, at different times, in a reasonable and calm manner. One response was I'll go tell little fucker now - and storm off into the classroom - to have a go at the teacher. Same woman went into the classroom on Friday effing and blinding. Of course, something should be said about that but I'm not being threatened by anybody for trying to stick up for my child | |||
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"To add: some of the things schools have been reported as saying in this thread (We'll fine you -they can't- they can report you) are truly dreadful. "How we deal with your child in school is none of your business", is absolute shite." Thank you and thank you for the other advice offered also xx | |||
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"It’s awful, I have kids of similar age and I couldn’t imagine how you feel, I wouldn’t want to leave them alone, you could have a polite chat with the parents... if my kids were bullying other kids I would definitely want to know! " Tried that sweet with both parents end result - I was assaulted | |||
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"Stage 1 Start by writing a formal letter to the school requesting they act to protect your child, try to record instances when your child has been bullied and include those instances in the letter. Ask that time between your child and the bully/bullies is limited, and where not possible, that time together has increased supervision. If you haven’t already started a diary of events, do so now. Stage 2 Any physical or mental injuries take your child to the doctor on each occasion - make sure appointments are made in school time so you have to take your child out of lessons for the appointment - make sure you request from thr teacher any missed work for you to complete at home. Now write a formal letter of complaint to the school - requesting a response in writing and the outcome in writing. Keep that diary of events up to date Stage three Contact the LEA and the EWO and explain the situation to them, particularly emphasise the time off school and educational impact this is having. Contact the local police liaisons officer, in primary school, at that age, the police have little power, but their input, visiting the parents and dishing out a bollocking can sometimes be enough, it also starts a record for legal private or criminal action. Contact your LSCB and explain the situation to them - Be clear you are reporting a safeguarding concern. By now you should have collated a great deal of evidence / you've been keeping that diary of events up to date haven’t you? Pass all this on to the safeguarding team. I would sincerely hope that the situation gets resolved by stage three, but so many school are still in the Stone Age these days with bullying. LEA local education authority EWO ??. Education Welfare Officer No local primary school has their own Bobby - police told me that when they took a statement from me. But they do have to go in and see staff. The school won’t have their very own officer, but there will be an officer as main point of contact in regards to the school - they should be known as the liasons officer, unless your local authority is still behind the times. (Likely) LSCB ?? Local Safeguarding Children’s Board" Thank you The police told me that they are not allocated the resources to attend primary schools as a general rule but will have to in this instance because of what happened | |||
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"I'd suggest getting a meeting with the head, on Monday (demand! it's a matter of urgency due to the fact they are not safeguarding your child), explain you have tried being patient however your child is still a victim of bullying. Request a copy of their safeguarding policy, bullying policy and records of the incident reports (or whatever they are calling it). Then tell the head you're going to go to the school governors, Ofsted, the police (for the assault in particular) and the department for education because they are not keeping your child safe. This may put the jeebies up them to actively protect your child, if not, those people listed will make sure they do. It's an absolutely awful situation you are in, I can't believe the school are trying to make you feel so powerless! Be assured though, you do have power by going through the right channels. Good luck and I hope you get the situation resolved soon! Utterly agree! If a Headteacher realises that he or she is facing the "Brown Stuff" coming down from 'higher up' they'll do something! Anazing how some Head Teachers hide behind their rhetoric of "we have robust Anti Bullying measures" blah! Blah! Blah! Well, if you did someone's child would not be bullied! Threats to involve the local Media and name & shame the culprits works wonders! Plus, ensure to advise the Head that their name & their incompetence will also be passed onto the Media too! Never fails!" Incredibly dangerous advice - most school have malicious action policies in place which the above action would completely fall in to, the repercussions of which would likely be entirely damaging to you, your child’s education and any credibility you may have had. I would only advocate the above advice (and even then tentatively - if handled very carefully) when ALL over avenues have failed - particularly in that you have completely exhausted the schools complaints procedure - which unfortunately, following due process from first complaint, to escalation, to governors, to escalation to appeal, to LEA could take up to 4 - 6 months. | |||
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"I'd suggest getting a meeting with the head, on Monday (demand! it's a matter of urgency due to the fact they are not safeguarding your child), explain you have tried being patient however your child is still a victim of bullying. Request a copy of their safeguarding policy, bullying policy and records of the incident reports (or whatever they are calling it). Then tell the head you're going to go to the school governors, Ofsted, the police (for the assault in particular) and the department for education because they are not keeping your child safe. This may put the jeebies up them to actively protect your child, if not, those people listed will make sure they do. It's an absolutely awful situation you are in, I can't believe the school are trying to make you feel so powerless! Be assured though, you do have power by going through the right channels. Good luck and I hope you get the situation resolved soon! Utterly agree! If a Headteacher realises that he or she is facing the "Brown Stuff" coming down from 'higher up' they'll do something! Anazing how some Head Teachers hide behind their rhetoric of "we have robust Anti Bullying measures" blah! Blah! Blah! Well, if you did someone's child would not be bullied! Threats to involve the local Media and name & shame the culprits works wonders! Plus, ensure to advise the Head that their name & their incompetence will also be passed onto the Media too! Never fails! Incredibly dangerous advice - most school have malicious action policies in place which the above action would completely fall in to, the repercussions of which would likely be entirely damaging to you, your child’s education and any credibility you may have had. I would only advocate the above advice (and even then tentatively - if handled very carefully) when ALL over avenues have failed - particularly in that you have completely exhausted the schools complaints procedure - which unfortunately, following due process from first complaint, to escalation, to governors, to escalation to appeal, to LEA could take up to 4 - 6 months. " I would not allow my child to be bullied for that length of time. | |||
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"I'd suggest getting a meeting with the head, on Monday (demand! it's a matter of urgency due to the fact they are not safeguarding your child), explain you have tried being patient however your child is still a victim of bullying. Request a copy of their safeguarding policy, bullying policy and records of the incident reports (or whatever they are calling it). Then tell the head you're going to go to the school governors, Ofsted, the police (for the assault in particular) and the department for education because they are not keeping your child safe. This may put the jeebies up them to actively protect your child, if not, those people listed will make sure they do. It's an absolutely awful situation you are in, I can't believe the school are trying to make you feel so powerless! Be assured though, you do have power by going through the right channels. Good luck and I hope you get the situation resolved soon! Utterly agree! If a Headteacher realises that he or she is facing the "Brown Stuff" coming down from 'higher up' they'll do something! Anazing how some Head Teachers hide behind their rhetoric of "we have robust Anti Bullying measures" blah! Blah! Blah! Well, if you did someone's child would not be bullied! Threats to involve the local Media and name & shame the culprits works wonders! Plus, ensure to advise the Head that their name & their incompetence will also be passed onto the Media too! Never fails! Incredibly dangerous advice - most school have malicious action policies in place which the above action would completely fall in to, the repercussions of which would likely be entirely damaging to you, your child’s education and any credibility you may have had. I would only advocate the above advice (and even then tentatively - if handled very carefully) when ALL over avenues have failed - particularly in that you have completely exhausted the schools complaints procedure - which unfortunately, following due process from first complaint, to escalation, to governors, to escalation to appeal, to LEA could take up to 4 - 6 months. I would not allow my child to be bullied for that length of time." Not what I said or suggested | |||
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"There's tons of issues to address in this thread- it's hard to know where to start. I'm an ex primary head of 20 years- had 'my own' school; and was seconded to 3 others over the time to help in schools with one problem or another. In those 20 years, I had dozens of bullying complaints; maybe even a hundred. I consider that about 5 or 6 were bullying. Bullying is targetted, systematic and unwanted attention by one to another. It's not bullying when the school has a nutter on roll who lashes out at anyone within reach. That child should be dealt with of course, but it's not bullying. As for parent on parent action- if you really think that the school can sanction violence or threats- well have a think about it! Finally, if your child tells you they are being bullied, you take it seriously. But it don't make it so. " Teaching for over 20 years in 4 schools and only 5 or 6 cases of actual bullying ??? Really.... no offence but is your viewpoint a reflection of many education professionals simply dismissing or ignoring actual problems or incidences ??? | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting " Take her to sum Marshall arts lessons. She won't be bullied for mutch longer wen she lurns sum self defence and can give wot for back. | |||
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"A couple of views from me..... 1) kids fight and "bully" each other. Always happened and always will. 2) is this website really your go to place for advice on a family issue that is clearly causing you a lot of pain.. Oh dear" 1) That doesn't make it acceptable,do you have kid's? Is that something that you would say to your little one that comes out of primary in tears yet again? Shall I get another guy to come into your work place today and thump you and then do it again tomorrow and the day after and the day after that,would that be ok. It sounds likes you expect kid's to tolerate it so I presume you'd be fine with that. 2) People can ask what the heck they like here within rules,it's about hearing others experiences and giving support. If you don't like that stay away from the lounge as it will only disappoint you. | |||
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"I was bullied physically & verbally throughout my entire time at secondary/comprehensive school. Mainly because I was poor at sports, reasonably intelligent, short & fat (my weight is something I've struggled with all my life). The school didn't want to know because the bullies were the ones who represented the school in sports events. I don't condone violence but I've tracked most of them down 1 by 1 starting a few years after leaving school & had a quiet word or two with them. Its quite satisfying to see their facial expression when they realise who I am & now I'm the one who is physically bigger, stronger, harder & faster than them. " Respek Godfather | |||
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"1. I never said it was acceptable but it's inevitable. Do you understand the difference? 2. I never said people can't ask what they like. Just questioned if this was the best place for such a personal problem. However as you rightly say she can post what she likes so I assume I can also respond as I like within the rules? Please try to reply to what I posted and not what you THINK I posted. And BTW trust me, the day I get disappointed by a discussion on a forum will be the day I question my entire being." 1) YES 2) YES I'm PRAYING you're NOT in the education system. | |||
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"1. I never said it was acceptable but it's inevitable. Do you understand the difference? 2. I never said people can't ask what they like. Just questioned if this was the best place for such a personal problem. However as you rightly say she can post what she likes so I assume I can also respond as I like within the rules? Please try to reply to what I posted and not what you THINK I posted. And BTW trust me, the day I get disappointed by a discussion on a forum will be the day I question my entire being. 1) YES 2) YES I'm PRAYING you're NOT in the education system." Obviously not because the education system clearly only employs the cream of the crop as,is being shown by the quality of kids leaving school.... And I know this because I run several businesses and employ schooleaverasmfrom time to time and trust me, these kids are not being well educated, motivated or disciplined. Though in fairness that's not all down to schooling | |||
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"1. I never said it was acceptable but it's inevitable. Do you understand the difference? 2. I never said people can't ask what they like. Just questioned if this was the best place for such a personal problem. However as you rightly say she can post what she likes so I assume I can also respond as I like within the rules? Please try to reply to what I posted and not what you THINK I posted. And BTW trust me, the day I get disappointed by a discussion on a forum will be the day I question my entire being. 1) YES 2) YES I'm PRAYING you're NOT in the education system. Obviously not because the education system clearly only employs the cream of the crop as,is being shown by the quality of kids leaving school.... And I know this because I run several businesses and employ schooleaverasmfrom time to time and trust me, these kids are not being well educated, motivated or disciplined. Though in fairness that's not all down to schooling " I won't ask why you would employ someone that doesn't sound a great choice to give a job too,but good for you for giving them a chance. | |||
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"An incident doesn’t make it bullying, a comment on a thread doesn’t make it bullying - the word is over used and used incorrectly which I believe is part of the issue in dealing with it. Bullying is targeted, prolonged, sustained, malicious. There isn’t anything people can tell me about bullying that I don’t already know. I had half a lifetime of it. The level of violence being advocated here just exacerbates the problem. Maybe this is part of the reason we live in such a violent society?Yes, children should be taught to stand up for themselves but there are ways of doing it. As for schools .. well they should have an anti-bullying policy, a behaviour policy and a safeguarding policy, as well as a complaints procedure. Use the tools to hand. Ofsted don’t give a flying fig about individual cases so you’re wasting your time there. I’m not making a comment about individual cases here, I’m merely giving an opinion as a person that has been bullied, I have children and I did work in a school for a while. If everyone went out and dealt with every issue that arises in schools in their own way, where would that leave us? " ^^^ This! | |||
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"Schools in our experience are not good at dealing with bullying. Ask for a copy of the school's bullying policy. Approach the school's police liaison office and discuss the situation with him or her, if your child is physically bullied take them to your gp so it's documented and advise the school, the governors and liaison officer that you've done this." This!! If you resort to violence, you’ve already lost. Also, get numbers on your side. If they’re bullying your child there’s a fair chance they are bullying someone else’s child. | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much." Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. | |||
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"It’s awful, I have kids of similar age and I couldn’t imagine how you feel, I wouldn’t want to leave them alone, you could have a polite chat with the parents... if my kids were bullying other kids I would definitely want to know! Can't be sweet with arsehole. Kids bully for a reason and it starts at home mostly... Tried that sweet with both parents end result - I was assaulted " | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. " How does the second part of that contradict the first? | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. " I agree with this.I've been in the situation. But it's not my kids fault. That's y I went to parents and I didn't take a soft approach | |||
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"I'd suggest getting a meeting with the head, on Monday (demand! it's a matter of urgency due to the fact they are not safeguarding your child), explain you have tried being patient however your child is still a victim of bullying. Request a copy of their safeguarding policy, bullying policy and records of the incident reports (or whatever they are calling it). Then tell the head you're going to go to the school governors, Ofsted, the police (for the assault in particular) and the department for education because they are not keeping your child safe. This may put the jeebies up them to actively protect your child, if not, those people listed will make sure they do. It's an absolutely awful situation you are in, I can't believe the school are trying to make you feel so powerless! Be assured though, you do have power by going through the right channels. Good luck and I hope you get the situation resolved soon! Utterly agree! If a Headteacher realises that he or she is facing the "Brown Stuff" coming down from 'higher up' they'll do something! Anazing how some Head Teachers hide behind their rhetoric of "we have robust Anti Bullying measures" blah! Blah! Blah! Well, if you did someone's child would not be bullied! Threats to involve the local Media and name & shame the culprits works wonders! Plus, ensure to advise the Head that their name & their incompetence will also be passed onto the Media too! Never fails! Incredibly dangerous advice - most school have malicious action policies in place which the above action would completely fall in to, the repercussions of which would likely be entirely damaging to you, your child’s education and any credibility you may have had. I would only advocate the above advice (and even then tentatively - if handled very carefully) when ALL over avenues have failed - particularly in that you have completely exhausted the schools complaints procedure - which unfortunately, following due process from first complaint, to escalation, to governors, to escalation to appeal, to LEA could take up to 4 - 6 months. I would not allow my child to be bullied for that length of time." And nor have I. I have been following the prescribed channels to try to sort it since last september. As you seem to have more answers than I perhaps you would enlighten me into your method for sorting it? | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. How does the second part of that contradict the first? " What do you mean? | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. How does the second part of that contradict the first? What do you mean? " Assume the reason the kid is a bully is that their parents beat them and they want to regain power. Why would that mean it's a bad idea to attack the kids parents? | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. How does the second part of that contradict the first? What do you mean? Assume the reason the kid is a bully is that their parents beat them and they want to regain power. Why would that mean it's a bad idea to attack the kids parents? " Because the parents will beat the kid up even worse than they already do. | |||
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"A lot of people seem to think attacking the kid's parents is a good idea. The kid may be bullying other kids because s/he is getting the shit kicked out of them at home. -A way to try and regain some kind of power in her/ his life. How does the second part of that contradict the first? What do you mean? Assume the reason the kid is a bully is that their parents beat them and they want to regain power. Why would that mean it's a bad idea to attack the kids parents? Because the parents will beat the kid up even worse than they already do." Ah i see, yes that is a possibility | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. " Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. " The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? " You said "men will ultimately resort to violence to settle disputes". . That's an entirely different thing to saying that societies are organised on the basis of laws and have organised bodies of force. (comprising males and females) to enforce said laws. | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? You said "men will ultimately resort to violence to settle disputes". . That's an entirely different thing to saying that societies are organised on the basis of laws and have organised bodies of force. (comprising males and females) to enforce said laws. " You make a distinction without a difference. Violence is the ultimate answer for society and men as individuals. Pretending we can live without violence is the biggest lie lefties indulge. | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting " What happened today? | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? You said "men will ultimately resort to violence to settle disputes". . That's an entirely different thing to saying that societies are organised on the basis of laws and have organised bodies of force. (comprising males and females) to enforce said laws. You make a distinction without a difference. Violence is the ultimate answer for society and men as individuals. Pretending we can live without violence is the biggest lie lefties indulge." Two statements "most people of both sexes, believe that, where vital societal interests are involved it is permissible to employ the use of tightly regulated and organised bodies of force to ensure recaltriants don't prejudice said interests" "ultimately men will always resort to violence to settle disputes" If you think those two statements are identical, I really can't help you any further. | |||
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"What about the long term.impact on a childs mental health from being bullied? Or encouraged to be violent? Diffrent personality traits repsond diffrently. If someone is if a gentle nauture it will cause just as much damage to "make them fight back" No wonder so many young people end up in mental health services. And yes 2 of my kids were bullied. 1 had her wrist broken by her bully in school under supervison of the school. It was the last thing that bully did to her as charges were pressed. " What happened after charges were pressed out of interest? | |||
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"What about the long term.impact on a childs mental health from being bullied? Or encouraged to be violent? Diffrent personality traits repsond diffrently. If someone is if a gentle nauture it will cause just as much damage to "make them fight back" No wonder so many young people end up in mental health services. And yes 2 of my kids were bullied. 1 had her wrist broken by her bully in school under supervison of the school. It was the last thing that bully did to her as charges were pressed. What happened after charges were pressed out of interest? " Bully changed schools ended up in a school for kids with behaviurale issues (so couldbt be managed in a standard school) and the school paid a little more attention to bullying complaints. He probly went on to terrorise more kids to be honest. | |||
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"What about the long term.impact on a childs mental health from being bullied? Or encouraged to be violent? Diffrent personality traits repsond diffrently. If someone is if a gentle nauture it will cause just as much damage to "make them fight back" No wonder so many young people end up in mental health services. And yes 2 of my kids were bullied. 1 had her wrist broken by her bully in school under supervison of the school. It was the last thing that bully did to her as charges were pressed. What happened after charges were pressed out of interest? Bully changed schools ended up in a school for kids with behaviurale issues (so couldbt be managed in a standard school) and the school paid a little more attention to bullying complaints. He probly went on to terrorise more kids to be honest. " Probably the best outcome. | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? " As it happens I'm in the latter of those groups but violence is still a last resort, one would hope diplomacy works before people have to start dying but the threat still needs to be there as a deterrent. | |||
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"Kids are awful, whilst I wasn't on the receiving end of the worst bullying at secondary school I still had my share of it, and when I was little I got mercilessly picked on for having big ears which I'm sure was part of why I had anxiety problems that ran on into my 20's. I was a soft kid and quite sensitive, whereas now if someone tried to bully me (beyond banter, I'm fine with being mercilessly ripped in a friendly way) I'd likely knock them out. I wish I hadn't been scared of the people I was at school, none of them have amounted to much. Ultimately, men will always resort to violence to settle disputes. That's our nature. However, for women it isn't and they won't. There is no natural culmination of female bullying, frankly it's far worse than male bullying for that reason. Sorry, I know that's the gospel according to Peterson, but it's utter bollocks. I'm 51 and have never resorted to violence to settle a dispute and there are plenty like me. The implied threat is always there. It's not just peterson, our entire society is organised on this principle. What exactly are the police and army, if not groups with the authority for sanctioned violence? As it happens I'm in the latter of those groups but violence is still a last resort, one would hope diplomacy works before people have to start dying but the threat still needs to be there as a deterrent. "Exactly. I wasn't implying it should be the first option, it's the "natural culmination" (i.e. last resort). I'm glad that was obvious to everyone other than KLP. | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting What happened today? " Dropped her off as normal - but was escorted on and off the premises by the deputy head. When I commented to the effect are you my personal escort then he denied it - couldn't deny it when I said I didn't come down in the last shower. Head wants a meeting with me, when I told reception the time for that was now past she got shitty and demanded to know what right I had to escalate things. Last night my daughter got up at just gone 11 in bits. She had been had again yesterday - told the dinner supervisor who - surprise surprise didn't see anything. AND the lollipop lady was instructed that she was unavailable for comment to the police. Except she's said that she will give a statement | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting What happened today? Dropped her off as normal - but was escorted on and off the premises by the deputy head. When I commented to the effect are you my personal escort then he denied it - couldn't deny it when I said I didn't come down in the last shower. Head wants a meeting with me, when I told reception the time for that was now past she got shitty and demanded to know what right I had to escalate things. Last night my daughter got up at just gone 11 in bits. She had been had again yesterday - told the dinner supervisor who - surprise surprise didn't see anything. AND the lollipop lady was instructed that she was unavailable for comment to the police. Except she's said that she will give a statement " Nows the time to reassure your daughter and to make sure you don't discuss all this in front of her, it will add to her stress. As far as possible she needs to be shielded from the mechanics of your dealings with the school. | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting What happened today? Dropped her off as normal - but was escorted on and off the premises by the deputy head. When I commented to the effect are you my personal escort then he denied it - couldn't deny it when I said I didn't come down in the last shower. Head wants a meeting with me, when I told reception the time for that was now past she got shitty and demanded to know what right I had to escalate things. Last night my daughter got up at just gone 11 in bits. She had been had again yesterday - told the dinner supervisor who - surprise surprise didn't see anything. AND the lollipop lady was instructed that she was unavailable for comment to the police. Except she's said that she will give a statement " I'm sorry you and you're poor daughter are having to go through this. It's stuff like this that I'm dreading as my daughter gets older. Definitely going to have to get her into a martial arts class of some sort. You're handling it well, I hope things improve soon for you both. | |||
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"My kid has been bullied all year (she's 5) I've played the game and done as school have decreed in order to remedy same This is not working I have approached both mothers individually - this has not worked and has got me "done" as it's "not my place" (to approach parents of said little shit). I was told today if I approach either woman ON school property then I will be sanctioned and fined I approached them off school premises and was assaulted I particularly feel for the little shit who has to live in a violent atmosphere and hear the things coming out of her mother's mouth. Monday will be interesting What happened today? Dropped her off as normal - but was escorted on and off the premises by the deputy head. When I commented to the effect are you my personal escort then he denied it - couldn't deny it when I said I didn't come down in the last shower. Head wants a meeting with me, when I told reception the time for that was now past she got shitty and demanded to know what right I had to escalate things. Last night my daughter got up at just gone 11 in bits. She had been had again yesterday - told the dinner supervisor who - surprise surprise didn't see anything. AND the lollipop lady was instructed that she was unavailable for comment to the police. Except she's said that she will give a statement " Are they also escorting the woman who assaulted you? Hope you get it sorted. | |||
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"When I was in high school I developed epilepsy and got the nick name freak. Never told my parents, because I didn’t want to bother them with it. It ended where some of the bullies on my very last day of school intended to beat me up after school. When I was 18, developed cancer, but my experiences of my being being bullied enabled me to handle the illness better. Now years later I have a zero tolerance to bullies. I no longer have epilepsy." | |||
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