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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria

I'd like to have a conversation on mental health. Myself suffer with borderline personality disorder and psychosis have done for 10 years, medication only seems to mask my problems but not solve it. But the mental health treatment in this country is terrible. What do you reckon should be done to help people who struggle?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mental health services are ridiculously under funded, dangerously under staffed & there is, sadly, still huge stigma & ignorance about mental health. People are still frightened of it.

Perhaps you should have a conversation with your local professionals. My understanding is that psychological intervention is far more beneficial to those with personality disorders than medications, in saying that a low dose of an antipsychotic can help with some of the more unpleasant features of PD.

Take care & keep well OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What should be done and what can be done are poles apart sadly. The obvious thing is better investment in mental health services, but there's simply too little budget to go around. The health service is stretched to its limits.

More charitable and voluntary services would ease pressure, but relying on public generosity when most people tend to get charity weary, limits their impact.

Getting it out there and in the public domain, getting everyone body aware and talking about it, rather than shying away from it. Encourage those who need help to chat to friends, family, as well as professionals.

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

I'm a little confused OP, you seem to be looking for a 'cure'? There isn't one.

Your condition is something you need to learn to live with, with medication where necessary.

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorders. It's something I will need to be medicated for for life.

The stigma attached to mental illness means many are suffering in silence and worse, like you, thinking there is a cure when there isn't one.

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria


"I'm a little confused OP, you seem to be looking for a 'cure'? There isn't one.

Your condition is something you need to learn to live with, with medication where necessary.

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorders. It's something I will need to be medicated for for life.

The stigma attached to mental illness means many are suffering in silence and worse, like you, thinking there is a cure when there isn't one.

"

Where once did I refer to a cure? I know there isn't one. I've come to live with that fact. But was more getting at what more should be done about this sort of service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a little confused OP, you seem to be looking for a 'cure'? There isn't one.

Your condition is something you need to learn to live with, with medication where necessary.

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorders. It's something I will need to be medicated for for life.

The stigma attached to mental illness means many are suffering in silence and worse, like you, thinking there is a cure when there isn't one.

"

Yeah you do seem a little confused tbh...where on earth does he say anything about a cure ??

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I though personality disorders could not be treated with medication. Behaviour stratgies help I believe. There needs to be more resource

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria


"I though personality disorders could not be treated with medication. Behaviour stratgies help I believe. There needs to be more resource "

It's my psychosis that's treated with medication

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they probably do the best job they can with the resources given. I think with any sort of illness, mental or otherwise we should research all we can on ways to help ourselves, too adminster self care wherever possible, especially when there is no 'cure'

Im not saying dont seek help, but do all we can to help ourselves too.

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish


"I'm a little confused OP, you seem to be looking for a 'cure'? There isn't one.

Your condition is something you need to learn to live with, with medication where necessary.

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorders. It's something I will need to be medicated for for life.

The stigma attached to mental illness means many are suffering in silence and worse, like you, thinking there is a cure when there isn't one.

Where once did I refer to a cure? I know there isn't one. I've come to live with that fact. But was more getting at what more should be done about this sort of service. "

Your words were ", medication only seems to mask my problems but not solve it.". I mistakenly took "solve it" to mean cure it, apologies

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

So how would you like to solve it and what kind of resources are available in your area?

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria


"I'm a little confused OP, you seem to be looking for a 'cure'? There isn't one.

Your condition is something you need to learn to live with, with medication where necessary.

I have schizoaffective bipolar disorders. It's something I will need to be medicated for for life.

The stigma attached to mental illness means many are suffering in silence and worse, like you, thinking there is a cure when there isn't one.

Where once did I refer to a cure? I know there isn't one. I've come to live with that fact. But was more getting at what more should be done about this sort of service.

Your words were ", medication only seems to mask my problems but not solve it.". I mistakenly took "solve it" to mean cure it, apologies"

I apologise for that.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

For the first time in years there is an increase in new young doctors choosing to specialise in mental health. It's only 307 of them but it is an increase.

That's a start.

We've had decades of demand outstripping supply of practitioners. Funding that is supposedly ring-fenced to MH services has been used to prop-up physical health, because you can see it.

Part of the solution is getting every workplace to have a MH First Aider. It's not treatment but it aids understanding and a shift in how we react to MH in the workplace.

GPs need more training in MH too. I'm not a huge fan of social prescribing but it works for some. If we can deal with mental ill-health better we are likely to see a drop in the number of physical health complaints that rock up to the GP and that will free up resources (time and money) to deal with serious mental ill-health and physical ill-health cases.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"I think they probably do the best job they can with the resources given. I think with any sort of illness, mental or otherwise we should research all we can on ways to help ourselves, too adminster self care wherever possible, especially when there is no 'cure'

Im not saying dont seek help, but do all we can to help ourselves too. "

When I'm ill I find it almost impossible to help myself. I have strategies in place but it has taken me a lifetime to get there.

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria


"So how would you like to solve it and what kind of resources are available in your area?"

My area is one of the worst places to be hit with all the government funds. I was due to start an 18 month program until it got scrapped. If it was me in charge of the funding, I'd first start by looking at the stats of mental health suicides and how to prevent them. Not cut funding. Apologise for the rant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think they probably do the best job they can with the resources given. I think with any sort of illness, mental or otherwise we should research all we can on ways to help ourselves, too adminster self care wherever possible, especially when there is no 'cure'

Im not saying dont seek help, but do all we can to help ourselves too.

When I'm ill I find it almost impossible to help myself. I have strategies in place but it has taken me a lifetime to get there.

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Oh absolutely yes I agree there are times we need that extra help xx

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish


"So how would you like to solve it and what kind of resources are available in your area?

My area is one of the worst places to be hit with all the government funds. I was due to start an 18 month program until it got scrapped. If it was me in charge of the funding, I'd first start by looking at the stats of mental health suicides and how to prevent them. Not cut funding. Apologise for the rant "

It's terrible that the service we receive is such a postcode lottery. What was the 18month program?

I count myself as fortunate to have a fairly good health service locally. I hate to imagine how those less fortunate cope at times of crisis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op you need to see a cbd or CBT therapist ask through your local mental health charity that run group sessions this will help until you get an appointment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"So how would you like to solve it and what kind of resources are available in your area?

My area is one of the worst places to be hit with all the government funds. I was due to start an 18 month program until it got scrapped. If it was me in charge of the funding, I'd first start by looking at the stats of mental health suicides and how to prevent them. Not cut funding. Apologise for the rant

It's terrible that the service we receive is such a postcode lottery. What was the 18month program?

I count myself as fortunate to have a fairly good health service locally. I hate to imagine how those less fortunate cope at times of crisis."

I live in an area with one of the longest waiting lists for MH services. However, once I had made it up the list last time I had fantastic therapeutic care - up to the point where my "allowance" ran out. I'm lucky I've also had GPs that care and I was given the details of a good therapist. It cost me all my savings but I'm alive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to have a conversation on mental health. Myself suffer with borderline personality disorder and psychosis have done for 10 years, medication only seems to mask my problems but not solve it. But the mental health treatment in this country is terrible. What do you reckon should be done to help people who struggle? "

Do lots of research. Tablets can help. There’s no happy pills as such an they only help a little. Understanding your body an mind is the best thing you can do. Learn your strengths an weaknesses. An plan for them. There’s lots of things you can do, but with out the right support it’s very hard. An that’s where mental health systems needs to be. Supporting people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how would you like to solve it and what kind of resources are available in your area?

My area is one of the worst places to be hit with all the government funds. I was due to start an 18 month program until it got scrapped. If it was me in charge of the funding, I'd first start by looking at the stats of mental health suicides and how to prevent them. Not cut funding. Apologise for the rant

It's terrible that the service we receive is such a postcode lottery. What was the 18month program?

I count myself as fortunate to have a fairly good health service locally. I hate to imagine how those less fortunate cope at times of crisis."

Clinical Commissioning Groups (groups of GPs) decide the funding on physical, I'm assuming the same is for mental health. So the postcode lottery is worse than ever.

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria

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By *oungalpha20 OP   Man
over a year ago

North West /Cumbria

I've been under the mental health services for the last 8 years. I wasn't asking about myself. Basically the topic was to see what should be done to help the service

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Charities get referred to, like MIND and YMCA for up to a certain age.

Sadly both physical and mental health services are under funded - what can we do? Vote the Tories out.

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