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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman "It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation. | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation. "Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it. | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs "Yup, she wasn't charged with anything. | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs "
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"What a peculiar thing to not only think but then to post. I mean it probably didn’t happen, unless the mother thought it would be a wise idea to murder the driver of a speeding car with her and her children in, as opposed to telling them they can have the car if they let her and her children out " So the BBC is reporting fake news? | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs "..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need? | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?"What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1  | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it. "A troubled human being. I’d disagree if that merits the terminology “piece of shit”, unless it’s a description that the action taken by said human was shit, that I’d agree with. | |||
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"So was the gun in the back seat with the kids?" I presumed (I may be wrong) it was on her person. | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it.
A troubled human being. I’d disagree if that merits the terminology “piece of shit”, unless it’s a description that the action taken by said human was shit, that I’d agree with. "A human that needs to be removed from the gene pool, then | |||
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"So was the gun in the back seat with the kids? I presumed (I may be wrong) it was on her person. " It's Texas, most women carry an AR15 in their handbag | |||
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"So was the gun in the back seat with the kids? I presumed (I may be wrong) it was on her person. " Let's hope so  | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it.
A troubled human being. I’d disagree if that merits the terminology “piece of shit”, unless it’s a description that the action taken by said human was shit, that I’d agree with.
A human that needs to be removed from the gene pool, then"No. You know very well I will disagree with that too. Stop flirting with me. | |||
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"So was the gun in the back seat with the kids?" It was in the glove compartment. | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it. "No doubt he had some social issues you should've taken into account, OP!  | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it.
No doubt he had some social issues you should've taken into account, OP! "Nothing a bullet won't solve | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it.
No doubt he had some social issues you should've taken into account, OP!
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"What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1 "In that particular case, he shot the burglar in the back, as he was running away, so self-defence does not apply, as it would have if the burglar was approaching him. Probably the same in Texas. Plus the pump action shot-gun was not registered, so again he'd probably have been charged in Texas, let alone the UK. He served three years for man-slaughter. | |||
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"A mother was in a garage paying for her fuel, kids in the car when a man started breaking into her car and trying to steal it. She managed to get in the back seat before he got away and told him to stop. When he refused, she shot him in the face. When contacted by reporters, said woman had this to say to the thief: "I wish i would've killed you, if i didn't already". That's my kind of woman
It sounds to me like she’s in shock from a very traumatic situation.
Yeah but i like how she didn't give a half added apology afterwards. What kind of piece of shit human being tries to steal a car with kids in it.
No doubt he had some social issues you should've taken into account, OP!
Nothing a bullet won't solve
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"What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
In that particular case, he shot the burglar in the back, as he was running away, so self-defence does not apply, as it would have if the burglar was approaching him. Probably the same in Texas.
Plus the pump action shot-gun was not registered, so again he'd probably have been charged in Texas, let alone the UK.
He served three years for man-slaughter. "And there was a big campaign for his immediate release. If someone is foolish enough to commit robbery or burglary, then they can expect all that's coming to them in my eyes. I don't possess a firearms license, but I do have a big stabby knife and would not be afraid to use it if someone broke into my property | |||
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"I would resort to any method possible to protect my children if they were in danger or being threatened. I don't obviously carry a gun round with me, but I'd fight with anything I could, and if thst meant killing someone in the process, then, yes I would. " Don’t mess with Momma Bear. | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1 "Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him. If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so. | |||
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"I had to protect my teenage granddaughter from 3 teenagers and their angry mob behind them. One of them was huge but when the adrenaline kicks in you find the strength from somewhere. I paid for it the next day though. " In what respect? I hope it was only a pulled muscle or something xx | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him.
If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so.
"It wasn't the first time he'd been targeted though, I'm not saying what he did was right, but how much can a man take before something's got to give? | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him.
If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so.
It wasn't the first time he'd been targeted though, I'm not saying what he did was right, but how much can a man take before something's got to give? "I'm not saying he was wrong. He'd been burgled a number of times before the incident. He was given little in the way of support or protection. He was undoubtedly at the end of his tether. Angry frustrated and scared. I belive the length of his sentence reflected a degree of mitigation for his actions. Personally, I'd have done things very differently. | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him.
If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so.
It wasn't the first time he'd been targeted though, I'm not saying what he did was right, but how much can a man take before something's got to give?
I'm not saying he was wrong.
He'd been burgled a number of times before the incident. He was given little in the way of support or protection.
He was undoubtedly at the end of his tether. Angry frustrated and scared.
I belive the length of his sentence reflected a degree of mitigation for his actions.
Personally, I'd have done things very differently. "It also reflects that he refused to show remorse. Righly so in my opinion, it's a shame he didn't get a head shot. | |||
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"It's a shame he didn't get a head shot. " I'm a marksman, but it would have been much easier to have blown his kneecap off | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him.
If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so.
It wasn't the first time he'd been targeted though, I'm not saying what he did was right, but how much can a man take before something's got to give? "There was a similar case in Ireland a good few years back. He was found guilty and sentenced. However, there was public outcry and he was released shortly after. It was the catalyst for a change in Irish law. | |||
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"There was a similar case in Ireland a good few years back. He was found guilty and sentenced. However, there was public outcry and he was released shortly after. It was the catalyst for a change in Irish law." An Englishman's home is his castle seems to have traveled across the Irish Sea then  | |||
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"There was a similar case in Ireland a good few years back. He was found guilty and sentenced. However, there was public outcry and he was released shortly after. It was the catalyst for a change in Irish law. An Englishman's home is his castle seems to have traveled across the Irish Sea then "Nah, just that he has the right to defend himself and his property | |||
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"There was a similar case in Ireland a good few years back. He was found guilty and sentenced. However, there was public outcry and he was released shortly after. It was the catalyst for a change in Irish law. An Englishman's home is his castle seems to have traveled across the Irish Sea then
Nah, just that he has the right to defend himself and his property "Right that's it, I challenge you to an arm wrestle for the pleasure of sharing your bed  | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
Yup, she wasn't charged with anything. "Worked with a Texan, he said in texas you can shoot anyone touching your property up to and including your wife. Must make swinging a very unnerving experience | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1 "Tony Martin was in unlawful possession of a firearm, and he shot the two thieving shitbags as they were running away, hence he was no longer under threat, hence that's why his actions were illegal. He was also accused of being lying in wait so his actions were deemed premeditated. I have every sympathy with the man as he had endured endless similar troubles, however he acted unlawfully in how he went about it. His was a landmark case and was the start of turning things around to emphasise the right to self defence. | |||
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"There was a similar case in Ireland a good few years back. He was found guilty and sentenced. However, there was public outcry and he was released shortly after. It was the catalyst for a change in Irish law. An Englishman's home is his castle seems to have traveled across the Irish Sea then
Nah, just that he has the right to defend himself and his property
Right that's it, I challenge you to an arm wrestle for the pleasure of sharing your bed "Ha sorry, the heat is making me belligerent | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin was in unlawful possession of a firearm, and he shot the two thieving shitbags as they were running away, hence he was no longer under threat, hence that's why his actions were illegal. He was also accused of being lying in wait so his actions were deemed premeditated. I have every sympathy with the man as he had endured endless similar troubles, however he acted unlawfully in how he went about it. His was a landmark case and was the start of turning things around to emphasise the right to self defence."Exactly, even after previous attempts to encroach on his personal space, the law did little to protect him unfortunately | |||
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"What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
In that particular case, he shot the burglar in the back, as he was running away, so self-defence does not apply, as it would have if the burglar was approaching him. Probably the same in Texas.
Plus the pump action shot-gun was not registered, so again he'd probably have been charged in Texas, let alone the UK.
He served three years for man-slaughter.
And there was a big campaign for his immediate release. If someone is foolish enough to commit robbery or burglary, then they can expect all that's coming to them in my eyes.
I don't possess a firearms license, but I do have a big stabby knife and would not be afraid to use it if someone broke into my property "So what if three stronger, younger men broke in with bigger, stabbier knives? And your wife and kids are upstairs? Do you go down all Mr Macho Man or do you call the police? Is losing your (insured) TV really worth a knife in your heart? | |||
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"It's a shame he didn't get a head shot. I'm a marksman, but it would have been much easier to have blown his kneecap off "In the dark in a stairwell? Go for it Tex! | |||
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"I had to protect my teenage granddaughter from 3 teenagers and their angry mob behind them. One of them was huge but when the adrenaline kicks in you find the strength from somewhere. I paid for it the next day though. In what respect? I hope it was only a pulled muscle or something xx " I didn't fisticuff them; they're only kids, but my whole body hurt from the physical force of holding them back. I had some help, in the end, from the kebab shop men. | |||
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"What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
In that particular case, he shot the burglar in the back, as he was running away, so self-defence does not apply, as it would have if the burglar was approaching him. Probably the same in Texas.
Plus the pump action shot-gun was not registered, so again he'd probably have been charged in Texas, let alone the UK.
He served three years for man-slaughter.
And there was a big campaign for his immediate release. If someone is foolish enough to commit robbery or burglary, then they can expect all that's coming to them in my eyes.
I don't possess a firearms license, but I do have a big stabby knife and would not be afraid to use it if someone broke into my property
So what if three stronger, younger men broke in with bigger, stabbier knives? And your wife and kids are upstairs?
Do you go down all Mr Macho Man or do you call the police?
Is losing your (insured) TV really worth a knife in your heart?"The bizarre thing in our legal system is that if you have any article intended for use as a weapon, self defence or otherwise, it is then deemed an offensive weapon and your acts would be deemed premeditated and unlawful. However if, during the course of an intrusion, you feel under threat and pick up an article spontaneously and use it in self defence, that's ok. You can imagine the legal wrangle though. Fortunately, Tony Martin's and a few subsequent cases have started the judicial system leaning in favour of the householder/victim, which is as it should be. | |||
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Ha sorry, the heat is making me belligerent "Oooohh that's fighting talk there Missus, Scrabble it is then  | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs "If you reach for a weapon such as a gun or knife, then yes you should expect to get done for assault. | |||
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"Exactly, it's total madness that you can be done for assault if you defend yourself if someone tries to break into your property over here ffs
..and incorrect. If you are in genuine fear for your own or another's life, you have a right to self defence under Common Law. S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act, Article 2. Human Rights. How many do you need?
What happened to Tony Martin who was trying to protect his property from thieving scumbags when outnumbered 3 to 1
Tony Martin shot the guy in the back. The jury decided it was difficult to claim self defence if the attacker was facing away from him.
If he'd been facing Tony Martin he would probably have been found not guilty. And rightly so.
It wasn't the first time he'd been targeted though, I'm not saying what he did was right, but how much can a man take before something's got to give?
I'm not saying he was wrong.
He'd been burgled a number of times before the incident. He was given little in the way of support or protection.
He was undoubtedly at the end of his tether. Angry frustrated and scared.
I belive the length of his sentence reflected a degree of mitigation for his actions.
Personally, I'd have done things very differently.
It also reflects that he refused to show remorse. Righly so in my opinion, it's a shame he didn't get a head shot. "Got to be honest and doubtless many will slate me for it, i'd have shown zero remorse myself. I was discussing this particular incident in one of my classes a couple of weeks ago. As it was a closed shop and not a public forum (such as this) I shared what I would have done. My students all said, wow, yes, that would have worked. | |||
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If we are allowed to arm ourselves in our own homes then intruders will come armed!!! Blood bath over a bloody tv or laptop? | |||
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"I feel sorry for the kids. What they witnessed will trouble them forever and then they'll be allowed to also carry guns when they're older. Troubled teens with guns!!! Just what America needs more of.
If we are allowed to arm ourselves in our own homes then intruders will come armed!!! Blood bath over a bloody tv or laptop? "You'd think that, but..... In the States the incidents of hot burglaries have gone down whereas in the UK they're going up. In the states a burglar knows if he's armed and breaks into someone house the chances are he'll get shot. Over here we'd have turn all the lights on and help him carry our telly to his car because of Elf n safety. | |||
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"I feel sorry for the kids. What they witnessed will trouble them forever and then they'll be allowed to also carry guns when they're older. Troubled teens with guns!!! Just what America needs more of.
If we are allowed to arm ourselves in our own homes then intruders will come armed!!! Blood bath over a bloody tv or laptop? ". Whereas the UK is desperately short of troubled teens armed with knives and acid! | |||
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Ha sorry, the heat is making me belligerent
Oooohh that's fighting talk there Missus, Scrabble it is then "Ooh I love Scrabble | |||
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