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"Waiting for the racist posts..." Why? Lots of white people like R&B & other types music too... B x | |||
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"Waiting for the racist posts..." Please expand... | |||
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"It's a gang thing isn't it? You don't get moshy goth gangs from what I gather. So I'd say it's a culture thing." Oh probably, but that's not my question. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552" Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing." To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP."  | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing." Of course its not!  I dont even know how you could draw that conclusion!? Stabbings are just as common amongst other races in the uk surely? | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP." think so too. Some people see issues when there are none. Football has its share of violent people as well. You don't hear of golf, tennis or rugby hooligans, do you? | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. Of course its not! I dont even know how you could draw that conclusion!? Stabbings are just as common amongst other races in the uk surely? "I assure you that black chavs and white chavs are equally violent | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. Of course its not! I dont even know how you could draw that conclusion!? Stabbings are just as common amongst other races in the uk surely? "All races have violent people in them. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP." So apparently I was looking for racism where there wasn't any. My bad. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. " Why do you think its my download festival? | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. think so too. Some people see issues when there are none. Football has its share of violent people as well. You don't hear of golf, tennis or rugby hooligans, do you?" And now horse racing to. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. So apparently I was looking for racism where there wasn't any. My bad." You're not the first, you won't be the last. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. So apparently I was looking for racism where there wasn't any. My bad." Yes you are. The OP neither mentioned skin colour, or it association to the news story. You're the one insinuating it. | |||
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"Waiting for the racist posts..." black guy automatically assumes racism. is this not racist? | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. think so too. Some people see issues when there are none. Football has its share of violent people as well. You don't hear of golf, tennis or rugby hooligans, do you? And now horse racing to." I think it's more down to the human race being vile. I used to go to garage nights growing up and there was always trouble, but I see more trouble at a boxing event than I ever did a heartless crew set. | |||
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"Rap concerts tend to attract the scumbags like when Eminem played over here every scumbag in the country was there doing drugs and fighting was actually more women fighting then men " lol I'm pretty sure a bunch of drugs were taken at down load too | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? " You just have that rock and metal vine about you | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. Of course its not! I dont even know how you could draw that conclusion!? Stabbings are just as common amongst other races in the uk surely? "Yep. Manchester and Liverpool are mainly white gangs. It just depends where you are. | |||
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"Waiting for the racist posts... black guy automatically assumes racism. is this not racist? " Yes if it make you feel better. | |||
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"Waiting for the racist posts... black guy automatically assumes racism. is this not racist? Yes if it make you feel better. " apparently makes you feel better, im indifferent. i hate everyone equally | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP." He might have a point you can't argue with the satistics. I wouldn't say it a total black or white thing but it does seem to swing one way more then the other. I'm mean not all gray hair 70s DJ were sex offenders but they still got put in that group it generally a society issues as we distrust a group of people for the actions of a small minority of that group | |||
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"Waiting for the racist posts... black guy automatically assumes racism. is this not racist? Yes if it make you feel better. apparently makes you feel better, im indifferent. i hate everyone equally " At least he cleared it up for you. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? You just have that rock and metal vine about you" Are you saying because I'm white im less likely to be into RnB? Typical.  | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? You just have that rock and metal vine about you Are you saying because I'm white im less likely to be into RnB? Typical. "It's not me saying it. It's a statistic fact. Are you going to tell me that trance fans aren't more likely to take e? | |||
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"It's the same with most techno events, chances of being stabbed are pretty slim, chances of being hugged and loved to death, high "'High' indeed  | |||
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"It's the same with most techno events, chances of being stabbed are pretty slim, chances of being hugged and loved to death, high "Oh i don't know about that.. the Viking looked pretty angry! | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? You just have that rock and metal vine about you Are you saying because I'm white im less likely to be into RnB? Typical.
It's not me saying it. It's a statistic fact. Are you going to tell me that trance fans aren't more likely to take e?"So you're saying that there's more chance of a knife crime incident at an RnB event because there's more non whites there, if I'm following your logic. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? You just have that rock and metal vine about you Are you saying because I'm white im less likely to be into RnB? Typical.
It's not me saying it. It's a statistic fact. Are you going to tell me that trance fans aren't more likely to take e?
So you're saying that there's more chance of a knife crime incident at an RnB event because there's more non whites there, if I'm following your logic. "No because I'm intelligent enough to describe the world in terms of people's life choices rather than immutable characteristics. I'm saying there's more knife crime because there are more chavs there. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 Yes of course there are. The problem is that if you banned grunge music, then those violent cunts would start turning up to your download festival. Be grateful it filters the world for you. Why do you think its my download festival? You just have that rock and metal vine about you Are you saying because I'm white im less likely to be into RnB? Typical.
It's not me saying it. It's a statistic fact. Are you going to tell me that trance fans aren't more likely to take e?
So you're saying that there's more chance of a knife crime incident at an RnB event because there's more non whites there, if I'm following your logic.
No because I'm intelligent enough to describe the world in terms of people's life choices rather than immutable characteristics. I'm saying there's more knife crime because there are more chavs there. "So you say. | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552" The rock thang has matured. Look at the age of many of the bands, and indeed a large percentage of the audience. Rock has become something of a retro genre, even though there are new young bands. It's all very safe. I remember going to Donington (and other rock festivals) in the 80s and it was a lot more dangerous than today's rock festivals like Download (oh how I miss the mass bottle fights). By contrast, garage/RnB etc are still 'young' genres attracting almost excusively young audiences. I dare say garage/RnB festivals in 30 years time will become as safe and predictable as Download is today as the fans' hormones settle and they go just for the music. By the way, the same applies to ska / punk etc. Those genres were dangerous as fuck back in the day, just as rock'n'roll / mod music was (remember the rocker v mod punch-ups of the 60s). Today punk / ska / mod gigs are old people just enjoying the music. | |||
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"I think the OP was insinuating that because it was a RnB event (RnB being culturally appropriated with black people) that stabbings are a black thing. To be honest I think it's you that's making that connection not OP. He might have a point you can't argue with the satistics. I wouldn't say it a total black or white thing but it does seem to swing one way more then the other. I'm mean not all gray hair 70s DJ were sex offenders but they still got put in that group it generally a society issues as we distrust a group of people for the actions of a small minority of that group " Good point. | |||
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"I think to look at this in context it's worth noting WHERE each festival has been held. London is a hotbed for knife crime at the moment particularly anywhere near East London. The only culture that has driven this is KNIFE culture. Nothing more. " Are knives a new thing? Or is knife culture a new thing? Why is knife culture in the east of London a new thing? There was always knife crime. But now, why is it a "culture"? | |||
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"80,000 people go to download festival over 3 nights. No stabbings. 15,000 attend a garage and RnB event for an afternoon/evening. 4 stabbings. Is it a culture thing? Are there other genres that attract violent behaviour? Garage Nation music festival: Four men stabbed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44672552 The rock thang has matured. Look at the age of many of the bands, and indeed a large percentage of the audience. Rock has become something of a retro genre, even though there are new young bands. It's all very safe. I remember going to Donington (and other rock festivals) in the 80s and it was a lot more dangerous than today's rock festivals like Download (oh how I miss the mass bottle fights). By contrast, garage/RnB etc are still 'young' genres attracting almost excusively young audiences. I dare say garage/RnB festivals in 30 years time will become as safe and predictable as Download is today as the fans' hormones settle and they go just for the music. By the way, the same applies to ska / punk etc. Those genres were dangerous as fuck back in the day, just as rock'n'roll / mod music was (remember the rocker v mod punch-ups of the 60s). Today punk / ska / mod gigs are old people just enjoying the music." I've been reading though the posts to see if anyone brought up age - it was the first reason I thought of rather than race. I, obviously, don't have the stats, but I would be pretty surprised if the average age of someone at Download wasn't between 30-40 and the average age at the other festival was 18-25. The second reason has been touched on above - the r'n'b festival had inadequate security. Download has been going for years and knows what it needs to keep it's punters safe. I have no idea how long this other festival has been going, or if it has suddenly grown, but it sounds like the organisers/security were a bit naive. | |||
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"If it’s anything it’s a socio-economic thing. It’s not that black people are more prone to crime / gang culture. It’s that people less well off socially and economically are more prone to those things. And it just so happens that there are probably larger concentrations of black people in poorer inner city areas than white people." What's the knife culture scene like up in Glasgow? Pretty dire i imagine? | |||
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