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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud!" Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken" It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up  | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up "Yep what he said! 
Depends if you can afford to travel each day etc, but you never know what opportunities it may bring. It’s easier to find a job when you have one | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up "Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed  May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Yep what he said!
Depends if you can afford to travel each day etc, but you never know what opportunities it may bring. It’s easier to find a job when you have one "See, I can be sensible when I want to  | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them"You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great  | |||
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"So just got offered my first job, up in London. But they are offering 16k a year. Should I take it or go looking for another job?" We'll take out how mutch it will cost you to get to and from London. Take of food and drink as well. Is wots left a good amount you can live from easy ? If yes then take it 
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them
You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great "That sounds reasonable. And I might do air bnb until I can afford to rent a place proper | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them
You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great
That sounds reasonable. And I might do air bnb until I can afford to rent a place proper"You can also find a weekend job for the extra money.. every little helps | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them
You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great
That sounds reasonable. And I might do air bnb until I can afford to rent a place proper"also you don’t need to live in London you could live in Northampton or Carlos computable places to make it cheaper Defo try negotiating as companies do try to offer the minimum and there may be a maximum they can go to. they can only say no | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures?" Its all fiberglassed. | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them
You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great
That sounds reasonable. And I might do air bnb until I can afford to rent a place proper
also you don’t need to live in London you could live in Northampton or Carlos computable places to make it cheaper
Defo try negotiating as companies do try to offer the minimum and there may be a maximum they can go to. they can only say no"I would say better find a place close to your work as Tavel costs are high and traveling kills you. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. " Couldn't you get a job making boats or something else? | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. " Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites?" I'm a prop maker  . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect. | |||
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"16k in London, doing what? I would keep looking bud! Making giant sculptures that you see around London. Like that blue chicken It would be hard to live in London with 16K per annum but if I was you I would take it and work my way up
Advice I got given before to be able to live with minimul comfort in London, at least 24k is needed May try and see if I can make an arrangement with them
You can always negotiate by saying rent and other living costs are high in London and people understand that they might give you £2-£3K more. When I was in job I always used to negotiate and get the extra £2-£3K. Something is better than nothing and living in London is great
That sounds reasonable. And I might do air bnb until I can afford to rent a place proper
also you don’t need to live in London you could live in Northampton or Carlos computable places to make it cheaper
Defo try negotiating as companies do try to offer the minimum and there may be a maximum they can go to. they can only say no
I would say better find a place close to your work as Tavel costs are high and traveling kills you. "I’d agree with this. Finding somewhere cheaper to just pay the difference you save in travel makes no sense. | |||
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"So just got offered my first job, up in London. But they are offering 16k a year. Should I take it or go looking for another job?" That may cover your rent | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect. "Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time. "You can live off £16K in London. Plenty of people do. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect. "So register with morson and mpi and make some money! | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time. "Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
So register with morson and mpi and make some money! "Im not wanting to work aviation though. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular. "Living on outskirts is usually cheaper than living in London zone 2 & 3.. you will be fine and have a great time | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular. "Whereabouts on the outskirts. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
Living in** outskirts is usually cheaper than living in London zone 2 & 3.. you will be fine and have a great time " | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
Whereabouts on the outskirts. "Chalfont st Giles. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular. "I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future? You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
Whereabouts on the outskirts.
Chalfont st Giles. "That's not London
You'll be fine. After tax you'd be taking home about £1100 a month. You can rent a room out there for something like £500 a month, leaving you with £600 a month for everything else.
You're certainly not going to be living in the lap of luxury, but it's doable. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
Whereabouts on the outskirts.
Chalfont st Giles.
That's not London
You'll be fine. After tax you'd be taking home about £1100 a month. You can rent a room out there for something like £500 a month, leaving you with £600 a month for everything else.
You're certainly not going to be living in the lap of luxury, but it's doable. "Damn. I got expensive tastes damn it  | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
Whereabouts on the outskirts.
Chalfont st Giles.
That's not London
You'll be fine. After tax you'd be taking home about £1100 a month. You can rent a room out there for something like £500 a month, leaving you with £600 a month for everything else.
You're certainly not going to be living in the lap of luxury, but it's doable.
Damn. I got expensive tastes damn it "I’m sorry you can’t afford to live in a Penthouse | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough. "Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income. "Averages don’t really work because somebody might have kids while others don’t and other factors to take into account too. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income. "No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross. "Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax. Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure. If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits. | |||
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"So just got offered my first job, up in London. But they are offering 16k a year. Should I take it or go looking for another job?" £16k in London? Keep looking | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits. "Errmmm irrelevant to the OP’s question really | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits. "Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong  | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Errmmm irrelevant to the OP’s question really "I know. It's a tangent... | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong "I did. I thought the joint income would be above the median disposable income figure. That was wrong. It would be around the median figure. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong "As a single male, I would only be taking home £15k a year. Thats with tax removed, not taking into consideration rent, travel, food, bills, and essential luxuries | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. " Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. " Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong
As a single male, I would only be taking home £15k a year. Thats with tax removed, not taking into consideration rent, travel, food, bills, and essential luxuries"I think it would be a bit less than that after tax, but if you are right, that's £1250 a month. You can get a decent room for £500 a month including bills. If you find somewhere near your work travel. (bus?) probably won't be more than £100 a month. That leaves you £650 a month for food and fun. | |||
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"You'll will have to look for dwellings first. You might be able to get housing benefit to help with your rent, so research before you accept it. £16 000 in London is a pittance." He's not in London. He's near Slough. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong
As a single male, I would only be taking home £15k a year. Thats with tax removed, not taking into consideration rent, travel, food, bills, and essential luxuries
I think it would be a bit less than that after tax, but if you are right, that's £1250 a month. You can get a decent room for £500 a month including bills. If you find somewhere near your work travel. (bus?) probably won't be more than £100 a month. That leaves you £650 a month for food and fun. "Im lucky that the main meat I eat is turkey that stuff is cheap. Bus is 100 a month? Thats about £25 a week. Im spending more than that now | |||
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"You'll will have to look for dwellings first. You might be able to get housing benefit to help with your rent, so research before you accept it. £16 000 in London is a pittance. He's not in London. He's near Slough. " Always thought Slough was in London | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
Why is the job in London? Frankly, you can't live off £16k in London. You could live in somewhere like Basingstoke and go in when you need to. Really doesn't sound like a job that has any reason to be physically based in London all the time.
Because the company warehouse is located in the outskirts of London. And they make these sculptures for London particular.
I see you're only 22, So living in a shared house is not so bad for you. Does the job have any real career path or would it help you earn more in future?
You'll find that by the time you want a wife and kids, 16k is not enough.
Average UK household income is £27300, so if he shacked up with someone earning a similar amount he'd have an above average income.
No, that's close to the average wage figure for a single person. I think you quotes disposal household income, not gross.
Yes, you're right that's the median disposable income, so income after deduction of tax.
Still, the point holds. Two people on £16000 a year would not pay much tax so their disposal income would be around that average figure.
If they then had kids, they would be entitled to child tax credits.
Would it kill you to admit when you are wrong
As a single male, I would only be taking home £15k a year. Thats with tax removed, not taking into consideration rent, travel, food, bills, and essential luxuries
I think it would be a bit less than that after tax, but if you are right, that's £1250 a month. You can get a decent room for £500 a month including bills. If you find somewhere near your work travel. (bus?) probably won't be more than £100 a month. That leaves you £650 a month for food and fun.
Im lucky that the main meat I eat is turkey that stuff is cheap. Bus is 100 a month? Thats about £25 a week. Im spending more than that now "Get somewhere within walking distance
Seriously, it's a job and it will be a lot easier to get better jobs if you are in work and getting experience.
Even if you do have to live in a shit hole and eat beans on toast, I would say stick it out for a year or two and no doubt something better will come along.
You're only 22. I came to London when I was your age and did indeed live like that for a while. You can do that when you are young. | |||
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"You'll will have to look for dwellings first. You might be able to get housing benefit to help with your rent, so research before you accept it. £16 000 in London is a pittance. He's not in London. He's near Slough. Always thought Slough was in London" It's not. It's a good twenty miles from the centre and well known for being a bit of a dump. | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. " SpareRoom says otherwise and I know you value actual facts as opposed to personal opinion. | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. SpareRoom says otherwise and I know you value actual facts as opposed to personal opinion. " £500 a month fine, £400 shit hole. I noticed you combined the amounts which is a misquote of what i said. | |||
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"You'll will have to look for dwellings first. You might be able to get housing benefit to help with your rent, so research before you accept it. £16 000 in London is a pittance. He's not in London. He's near Slough. Always thought Slough was in London" It's where 'the office' was set. | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. SpareRoom says otherwise and I know you value actual facts as opposed to personal opinion. " Ones I looked at were nice looking. But looking at them, means I wont be able to accomadate for meets wonder if any fabbers are on there | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. SpareRoom says otherwise and I know you value actual facts as opposed to personal opinion. £500 a month fine, £400 shit hole. I noticed you combined the amounts which is a misquote of what i said. " I looked at a range of prices between £400 and £500. They didn’t look too bad. | |||
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"So just got offered my first job, up in London. But they are offering 16k a year. Should I take it or go looking for another job?" Not great money for London!!  | |||
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"You're outside the M25 so Londoners think that's another country, you're basically in slough. You'll get a room in a shared house for £500 a month including bills, or £400 if you can stomach a shit hole. It'll be fine as long as you don't have a wife and kids. If it's got a progression to a better salary, then take it. But you can't live off that wage equivalent in 6 years time. Go take a look at what you can get for £4/500 a month near Slough on SpareRoom. They aren’t shitholes. Believe me when i say, I know the rental market of slough and reading for single rooms intimately. It would be a shit hole / in a shit hole. SpareRoom says otherwise and I know you value actual facts as opposed to personal opinion. Ones I looked at were nice looking. But looking at them, means I wont be able to accomadate for meets wonder if any fabbers are on there "You're 22. People won't generally expect you to accommodate as most people your age will be living with parents or in shared houses. | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
So register with morson and mpi and make some money!
Im not wanting to work aviation though. "You could earn 16k in 3 and half months. Then take the rest of the year to " not work in aviation"... | |||
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" How do you create your sculptures? Its all fiberglassed. Maybe retrain and get into aircraft composites? I'm a prop maker . Mainly in weapons and armour is where my specialtise are. I can fiberclass, forge, weld, ect.
So register with morson and mpi and make some money!
Im not wanting to work aviation though.
You could earn 16k in 3 and half months. Then take the rest of the year to " not work in aviation"..."Is that why you became a rent boy? | |||
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"16k in london where would you live on that sort of money studio flat will cost u £1000 a month " They do, but that’s why most flatshare. I pay £600 all in for a great place with one other girl in zone 3. | |||
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"So just got offered my first job, up in London. But they are offering 16k a year. Should I take it or go looking for another job?" 16K in London won't get you a cardboard box to live in! | |||
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"My daughter lives in north london just move from studio to 1 bed flat £1200 month plus bills nice place with own private garden " £1,200?? Thats a rip off mate. That's at least £14,000 a year. On 16k, there is no way someone can afford that. | |||
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"Update! The guy has seen photos of my work and has simply asked what my daily rate is instead of putting a flat rate on it. " Don't say less than £150 a day. | |||
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"Update! The guy has seen photos of my work and has simply asked what my daily rate is instead of putting a flat rate on it. Don't say less than £150 a day. " | |||
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"Update! The guy has seen photos of my work and has simply asked what my daily rate is instead of putting a flat rate on it. Don't say less than £150 a day. " Say 200. And see where you end up. | |||
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"Bookmarking, I’m hoping for a happy ending " Omg I mean with the job etc  | |||
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"Bookmarking, I’m hoping for a happy ending
Omg I mean with the job etc " | |||
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