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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"A mother has defended her son and refuses to take responsibility over the destruction of a statue at an art gallery.

Sarah Goodman was fined $132,000 (£100,277) after her son Troy knocked the Aphrodite di Kansas City off it’s pedestal.

He is seen on CCTV hugging the statue while his mother sat and chatted with other adults, failing to stop him from touching the art. It then fell onto him, damaging the statue’s arms and head."

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Should she have to pay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes completely. That's not an accident. It's a kid playing up while his mother ignores him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How old was the son?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she pays, then she should take the statue with her...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, as i daresay she’d want compo if it had hurt her son.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although i’m wondering why such an expensive work of art didn’t have anything around it to stop folk touching it!

But yes, she should have been watching her child and ensured nothing was touched that shouldn’t have been.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

My instinct is yes, she should pay....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep she should and should also get to keep it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes she should

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes!

Far too many parents fail to take responsibility for their children. Normally on their bloody mobile phones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, it's not an accident that's caused the damage. She allowed it to happen due to her ignorance at what her child was up to.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Surely the simple solution is to take it out of the child's pocket money over the next 1000 years or so?

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants

Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "

Also......

Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I've been guilty of not being fully aware of what my children were doing 24/7. In environments such as art galleries I usually kept a sharp eye on them and used to explain that there was a time and a place for playing. However I'd want to know was this a gallery that encouraged interaction with the exhibits and how long had the parent taken their eye off the child for?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Also......

Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely. "

Awesome. Somebody else's fault.....

Well played.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "

I do think the parent should bear some responsibility but your first paragraph made me chuckle

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

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Yes. They’ll be insured.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured. "

Against accidental damages.

That's not an accident, that's negligent behaviour.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Nope, it should be insured, it was accidental.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if youre taking kids to an art gallery you need to keep an eye on them. Very different to a soft play area. I do have some smypathy for her but if shes allowed her kid to go off unoticed whilst she chats then unfortunatley its an expensive lesson learned.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured. "

Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Was the museum the right place to take this child?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Was the museum the right place to take this child?"

Sounds like it was the wrong place for the parent....

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured.

Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?"

Parents need to take responsibility for their children while out. Chatting to a friend is not taking responsibility for your child when you are in a museum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No there insured

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put it behind glass if u dont want kids to touch it

What if it was a school trip

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"No there insured"

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmmm, I’m not sure about this one. Was the mother neglectful? How many parents can honestly say that they watch their children every second of the time that they’re out? I sure as hell cant. You get distracted for one reason or another and that doesn’t make you neglectful.

The gallery will have insurance and they also have curators to ensure that no one does something like that. I’m not saying that the child is their responsibility, but the safety of the art is, does that make them neglectful?

No she shouldn’t have to pay, I’m fairly certain that she feels bad enough about the damage and her child being hurt as it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Put it behind glass if u dont want kids to touch it

What if it was a school trip

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Then a responsibly teacher would be explaining to kids 'hey, the things here are precious and valuable, don't touch'

Simple

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

No if it was so precious why was it not behind something,what if a pensioner wobbly on their feet had fallen against it. Yes the mother should have been watching him more,but kid's will be kid's.

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured.

Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?"

A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!!

Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I'm not sure. My fist instinct was yes as she should have been paying more attention but there is a part of me thatquedtioms who there wasn't appropriate measures taken by the gallery to prevent this happening.

Also in sure they are insured

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured.

Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?

A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!!

Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal. "

Fuck it!!!!

I sound like an adult now

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Also......

Where the feck is health and safety?! If a child can pull a statue over then surely it wasn’t being displayed properly and safely. "

Yep agree with all that. It could have been a whole different ball game right now if the thing has killed the child.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

If you are going to have a $132,000 piece of art on display in a Community Centre then it needs to be inaccessible to the public, kids in particular.

BUT yes the parents are responsible for their childrens actions so they should pay for the repairs. I've never been able to keep an eye on my kids 100% of the time, but there are places where you do keep a closer watch on them and make sure they act correctly for their environment. I would have thought that this was one of those places.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/976006/kansas-news-sculpture-kansas-city-overland-park-aphrodite-statue-damage

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon

Personally yes, if she's in a public place esp a place where stuff can be broken she should be responsible for her child's actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OK I'm a bit of a pushy parent but even I can say we all have moments that lack concentration and don't watch our children 24:7

So personally I feel that the mother should be punished some how, possibly through compulsory parenting classes. But the museum shouldn't have something touchable that isn't secured or behind some type of safety barrier so for that reason the museum should suck it up and claim on the insurance

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I think she should pay for their insurance excess (if there is one) but not for the cost of the actual statue.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Bet they wish they'd have stuck it behind something now,whoever thought it shouldn't be needs sacking,the poor kid was only hugging it.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World


"Bet they wish they'd have stuck it behind something now,whoever thought it shouldn't be needs sacking,the poor kid was only hugging it."

I saw the CCTV, he was more climbing up it than hugging it.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Bet they wish they'd have stuck it behind something now,whoever thought it shouldn't be needs sacking,the poor kid was only hugging it.

I saw the CCTV, he was more climbing up it than hugging it."

Was he I thought he was just hugging it I haven't seen it myself. Was he climbing up it to hug it do we know?

Statues make great climbing thing's for kid's.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

I've just watched the video clip. Even when the statue was knocked over, none of the parents look at all bothered...

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World


"I've just watched the video clip. Even when the statue was knocked over, none of the parents look at all bothered... "

I got the impression that none of those 3 women were his mother, he ran off down the side rather than running towards any of them. So god knows where his parent/s actually were.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes she should! Control your children when out in public

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

She wasn't sat chatting, she was in a different room ( so she said yesterday on This Morning )

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "

I like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread is a perfect example of what happens when people are given a small amount of information and then asked for there opinion and then when more information comes out people change their opinion.

It's always best to gather as much information as possible before coming to a conclusion.

Not just gathering a large quantity of information but a better quality of information.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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Fuck it!!!!

I sound like an adult now "

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I've just watched the video clip. Even when the statue was knocked over, none of the parents look at all bothered...

I got the impression that none of those 3 women were his mother, he ran off down the side rather than running towards any of them. So god knows where his parent/s actually were."

They were not in the room

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like "

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"This thread is a perfect example of what happens when people are given a small amount of information and then asked for there opinion and then when more information comes out people change their opinion.

It's always best to gather as much information as possible before coming to a conclusion.

Not just gathering a large quantity of information but a better quality of information."

So do you have more information that none of us have?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood "

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not "

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"This thread is a perfect example of what happens when people are given a small amount of information and then asked for there opinion and then when more information comes out people change their opinion.

It's always best to gather as much information as possible before coming to a conclusion.

Not just gathering a large quantity of information but a better quality of information."

Not really. The child was responsible for knocking over an expensive status,statue got damaged. Parent not within whipping distance. Who was responsible?...

The dozy sods who thought it wasn't a great idea to make sure it couldn't get damaged,the child for climbing it or the parent.

My conclusion all three,but mainly the former for allowing it to happen in the first place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?... "

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

If the statue had killed the son, the art gallery would be sued for negligence - both mother and gallery are at fault; the child should have been under control and the art work should have been made safe

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents "

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!"

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

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I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!

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By *exyspecs and supermanCouple
over a year ago

A house, a very big house in the country

Yes.

It would be no different if you were in a supermarket, car showroom etc.

Your job as a parent is to bring your children up accordingly to respect others property no matter where you are.

No amount of 'what about health and safety' should even be brought into the conversation.

The parents surely knew that taking a child to a museum would have items on display. And it's common knowledge and well common sense to not touch the exhibits.

Ss

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

This was on This Morning yesterday.

Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room?

The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed.

They should pay half each.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "

At** gave**

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "

Over use of an electric window you say?!

Burn him!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This was on This Morning yesterday.

Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room?

The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed.

They should pay half each."

Are you Robin Hood?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!

Over use of an electric window you say?!

Burn him!!!!"

Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!

Over use of an electric window you say?!

Burn him!!!!

Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor "

Yeah, but electric windows are such fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!

Over use of an electric window you say?!

Burn him!!!!

Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor

Yeah, but electric windows are such fun "

Not if it requires a new motor

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pay the full value of the piece, no.

Pay the insurance premium of having it professionally repaired, yes.

The museum should also be forced to install better security around such valuable pieces if they don't want them damaged to protect them, and anyone it had the potential to fall on. The museum should have had appropriate guarding around the statue if it was so valuable and in a position to be easily knocked over.

Any venue that has high value stock within easy reach of a child, is no place to take them until they're old enough to understand they can't play with them.

The mom should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing. No, I'm not a pefect parent who watches their child every second, but I also sure as hell wouldn't take her somewhere with expensive and valuable items that can be easily reached or damaged and then leave her to her own devices.

They're all at fault.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!! "

How old was he?

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish


"This was on This Morning yesterday.

Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room?

The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed.

They should pay half each.

Are you Robin Hood? "

Yes, yes I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

How old was he?"

I suspect you are going to say naughty years

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

How old was he?"

I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it!

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

How old was he?

I suspect you are going to say naughty years "

Groan! As if.....

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish


"Pay the full value of the piece, no.

Pay the insurance premium of having it professionally repaired, yes.

The museum should also be forced to install better security around such valuable pieces if they don't want them damaged to protect them, and anyone it had the potential to fall on. The museum should have had appropriate guarding around the statue if it was so valuable and in a position to be easily knocked over.

Any venue that has high value stock within easy reach of a child, is no place to take them until they're old enough to understand they can't play with them.

The mom should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing. No, I'm not a pefect parent who watches their child every second, but I also sure as hell wouldn't take her somewhere with expensive and valuable items that can be easily reached or damaged and then leave her to her own devices.

They're all at fault. "

It was a community center not a museum. They had the statue on loan from a local sculptor.

The family were at a wedding reception being held in one of the rooms there.

The stature was in the public lobby.

The mother was in the room at the reception, the child was roaming round the rest of the building alone.

After the statue fell another woman (a member of the public) checked the child was ok.

It took the mother a further 5 minutes to come out and see what all the fuss was about.

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By *relanddirectMan
over a year ago

cheshire

For those commenting on insurance, yes an insurance company would probably pay out. However, thaw mother has vicarious liability and they would seek to recover their outlay from her. The child is a minor in her care and she has failed in her to duty to adequately supervise the child. I would guess there are implied terms upon entry regarding damages also. That’s the interpretation of the law. My view? Yes the mother has been negligent and if the child knocked over eggs in Asda messing about the mother should play, the value is only an extrapolating of cost and no different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows."

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

"

That child could’ve been nicked, you know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing!

Over use of an electric window you say?!

Burn him!!!!

Let’s not get carried away, it was parental responsibility to stop the minor

Yeah, but electric windows are such fun "

Since when did Morris Minors have electric windows?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Frankly anyone who names their child Troy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should have had an electric fence around it.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"This was on This Morning yesterday.

Yes, the whiney woman was neglectful, who allows a child that young to wander around the rest of a community centre that's open to the public whilst at a wedding reception being held in one room?

The community center should also take partial responsibility as the statue was not securely displayed.

They should pay half each."

She's typical white trash. She lost all my support when she said "the event wasn't fancy, it wasn't at a gallery or a museum". She's got a really annoying voice too.

On the other hand, I'd probably still do her. So i am conflicted a little.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be interesting to get Donald Trump’s opinion on it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

That child could’ve been nicked, you know "

Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

That child could’ve been nicked, you know

Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan "

Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pay the full value of the piece, no.

Pay the insurance premium of having it professionally repaired, yes.

The museum should also be forced to install better security around such valuable pieces if they don't want them damaged to protect them, and anyone it had the potential to fall on. The museum should have had appropriate guarding around the statue if it was so valuable and in a position to be easily knocked over.

Any venue that has high value stock within easy reach of a child, is no place to take them until they're old enough to understand they can't play with them.

The mom should have been paying more attention to what her child was doing. No, I'm not a pefect parent who watches their child every second, but I also sure as hell wouldn't take her somewhere with expensive and valuable items that can be easily reached or damaged and then leave her to her own devices.

They're all at fault.

It was a community center not a museum. They had the statue on loan from a local sculptor.

The family were at a wedding reception being held in one of the rooms there.

The stature was in the public lobby.

The mother was in the room at the reception, the child was roaming round the rest of the building alone.

After the statue fell another woman (a member of the public) checked the child was ok.

It took the mother a further 5 minutes to come out and see what all the fuss was about.

"

Jesus, anything could have happened to that child then.

She's lucky that the worst thing to happen is getting a bill for her negligence

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants

I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure.

The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child.

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"It would be interesting to get Donald Trump’s opinion on it "

Just checked, he said it was fake news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure.

The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child.

"

So it’s statue’s fault?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For those commenting on insurance, yes an insurance company would probably pay out. However, thaw mother has vicarious liability and they would seek to recover their outlay from her. The child is a minor in her care and she has failed in her to duty to adequately supervise the child. I would guess there are implied terms upon entry regarding damages also. That’s the interpretation of the law. My view? Yes the mother has been negligent and if the child knocked over eggs in Asda messing about the mother should play, the value is only an extrapolating of cost and no different."

Insuers only generally pursue recoveries against those with the means to pay. Otherwise it's not worth the legal cost

And I would love to see you argue any vicarious liability matter here in UK or Irish Courts. It would in all probability be thrown out at a very early stage on the grounds of reasonableness.

All of which ignores the fact that you can't sue a minor and indeed your faith in the courts supporting this being the "failure of the mother's duty of care" is somewhat optimistic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

How old was he?

I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it! "

We were at my parents house one and I realized that it was a little too quiet. My niece's were doing jigsaws and watching telly and practicing their dance routines to take that when we left them to enjoy the sunshine and peace and quiet of the garden. When I went in to find out what the unnatural quiet was all about, they were in grandmas bedroom mixing all her expensive perfumes together

We decided to keep it as our little secret and grandma didn't seem to notice. We fessed up some year later and she pissed herself laughing

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure.

The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child.

So it’s statue’s fault? "

Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure.

The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child.

So it’s statue’s fault?

Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!!"

If you kid goes and damages neighbour’s car.. who’s ass is going to pay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

That child could’ve been nicked, you know

Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan

Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked! "

I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan!

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Why wasn’t it exhibited behind a screen or in a case ? How old was the child? . Yes mother may have been a tad negligent ,, but possible the museum may have contributed to that slightly . It’s a tough one ...... but I do think parents should be liable for their children’s poor behaviour,,,,, ie ,,, smashing bus shelters , graffiti,, litter ,,, etc etc .....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"It would be interesting to get Donald Trump’s opinion on it "

He'd tap that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

That child could’ve been nicked, you know

Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan

Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked!

I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan!"

Can you stop saying hooligan to strengthen your point because your point is weak as a slag’s knees

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000"

Not now it isn't

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000"

Are you positive Tommy?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Mind you when my nephew tipped an entire tub of Chanel No 5 after bath powder down the loo I thought his mother should have replaced it!!

How old was he?

I can't remember - very young, 6 or something like that? It was a special gift from my ex, one of those big expensive powder puff boxes and I adored it!

We were at my parents house one and I realized that it was a little too quiet. My niece's were doing jigsaws and watching telly and practicing their dance routines to take that when we left them to enjoy the sunshine and peace and quiet of the garden. When I went in to find out what the unnatural quiet was all about, they were in grandmas bedroom mixing all her expensive perfumes together

We decided to keep it as our little secret and grandma didn't seem to notice. We fessed up some year later and she pissed herself laughing "

Oh lordy lol!!

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By *radleywigginsMan
over a year ago

northwest

1. Parent is neglectful

2. Doesn’t matter whether the museum is insured or not, a piece of art has been destroyed. This is not the same as some precious bath powder or an electric window

3. If the Troy kid pulls a statue over on top of another kid and kills him, do people’s opinions change?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy? "

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"1. Parent is neglectful

2. Doesn’t matter whether the museum is insured or not, a piece of art has been destroyed. This is not the same as some precious bath powder or an electric window

3. If the Troy kid pulls a statue over on top of another kid and kills him, do people’s opinions change? "

It's not a museum

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Yes as she should have been taking notice of what her child was doing.

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though. "

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No there insured

So if a child deliberately wrecked the paintwork on your car, it would be ok, because you were insured?...

The child didn't take a screwdriver to the statue, he was giving it a hug... quite sweet really! Unfortunately he knocked over.

Maybe the mother should have been paying more attention, maybe the gallery should have made the statue more secure.

If the child hadn't knocked the statue over a lot of people would have been cooing over the display of affection and praising the mother for having such a sweet child.

Typical insurance company trying to apportion blame so it can wriggle out of paying up. Put your pitchforks away!

He was running about playing with another boy then tried climbing it. Whether he was planning to hug it once he had climbed high enough, who knows.

The original post stated the child was seen on CCTV hugging the statue but, you're right...who knows!

Parents should have been paying more attention to what their child was up too.

Gallery should have secured the statue better.

I still think the insurance company should pay up!

Anyway, who doesn't like a broken statue? All the best museums are full of them!

Maybe the mother could offer to fix it. It could even improve the statues appeal, some of the worlds best art has been collaborations.

Pablo Picasso and Gjon Mili - painting with light.

Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat - Olympic Rings.

That child could’ve been nicked, you know

Are we talking having his collar felt by the rozzers... would have served him right, bloody little hooligan

Not nicked by rozzers, I meant nicked nicked!

I think the thieves would have have returned him quite quickly once he'd broken some of their other trinkets of ill gotten gain... bloody little hooligan!

Can you stop saying hooligan to strengthen your point because your point is weak as a slag’s knees "

Perhaps the statue had slags knees and that's why it fell over so easily!

Going off subject a little...slags knees seems to be a common affliction affecting many footballers at the moment I have noticed!

Sorry for over use of the "H" word.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone "

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers. "

So how much is it Banksy?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy? "

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit "

So no price?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit "

I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

Are you suggesting she's not in any way responsible?

Because the child's dropped a cup at home it's OK to smash a work of art because "kids will be kids eh"

Yes. They’ll be insured.

Because it's insured it's OK and acceptable?

A couple of years ago, a small boy got crushed to death by a massive mirror in a shop in Bicester village. Nobody blamed the boy for fucking about, and nobody blamed the parents. Responsibility lies with the arty place to make sure it’s exhibits are safe and secure. So the parent wasn’t totally in control of their child, big deal! It’s not like she left them in an apartment and fucked off for dinner!!

Yes, kids are kids. They do stupid things, and parents deserve a break. At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal. "

This bit "At least she was trying to give them some culture and not sitting them in front of a PlayStation with a happy meal."

So much yes!!!!!!

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

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"[Removed by poster at 21/06/18 10:51:37]"

Did I tell you that you look like the picture of a late person?

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy "

Banksy is sick!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price? "

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

Yes plain and simple.

I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay

No difference to dog fouling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy

Banksy is sick! "

I have visited his Museum in Amsterdam and visited his hotel in Palestine (Bethlehem) aside having artistic skills I love the symbolism of his creation and how he keeps low profile a bit like Daft Punk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes plain and simple.

I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay

No difference to dog fouling "

Did I tell you that you look like the picture of a late person?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?"

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

I definitely would ! Absolutely love Banksy

Banksy is sick!

I have visited his Museum in Amsterdam and visited his hotel in Palestine (Bethlehem) aside having artistic skills I love the symbolism of his creation and how he keeps low profile a bit like Daft Punk and Bananaman "

I really like his work.. he highlights the important issues of our world.. wish we will get to know him one day

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

"

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that"

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that"

What sort of art do you do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit "

Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!"

There you go

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?"

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

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over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!

There you go "

I buy his copies just because I can’t afford the original.. but love is real

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over a year ago


"Yes plain and simple.

I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay

No difference to dog fouling "

Do you have children?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page. "

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes plain and simple.

I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay

No difference to dog fouling

Do you have children?"

Or a dog?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

"

No problem, it's all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

"

But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there..

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there.. "

No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there..

No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it."

What a waste of thread!

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching. "

Exactly. Fucking hell the world is full of perfect parents. I wish I was one of them.

V x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

So no price?

If someone is willing to pay $132,000 then I'll conceed it's worth that, but is there any evidence this dickhead has ever sold a piece for more than $50,000? I couldn't find any and looking at his collection then i very much doubt it. We can bet on it if you like?

Dickhead ? looks like he must have painted one of your house

Are you an artist yourself ?

If you want me to make you a statue like that and you'll pay me $132,000 for it, then yes I could do that

But have you ever created something that ppl talked abt around the world like the 'dickhead' of Banksy did ?

I don't know if you're a little simple minded, but we're talking about Bill Lyons, not Banksy. Bill Lyons is not talked about around the world, he doesn't even have a fecking wikipedia page.

Haha I must be little simple minded as I now realised my mistake haha my bad.

But he did manage to put an exhibition together and get people in there..

No, it was a wedding reception at a community center. Nobody was there to see his statue. Troy was the only one who noticed it."

And thought "Oooo, climbing frame"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry but you don't sit on your arse while your 5 year old swans about an art gallery. They are 5 they are going to touch things and be inquisitive. Be should have been at arms reach at least x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sorry but you don't sit on your arse while your 5 year old swans about an art gallery. They are 5 they are going to touch things and be inquisitive. Be should have been at arms reach at least x"

I believe it was a community centre.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!"

You mean the piece that he submitted to the Royal Academy under a pseudonym and had rejected until it was submitted again as a Banksy. Just love art snobbery.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Can i just point out that the statue is a piece of shit and not worth anything remotely like $132,000

Are you positive Tommy?

I just want to know how they came up with that valuation because there's no way anyone bought it for that. It looks like the kind of monstrosity that a hobbyist spent a long time tinkering with and decided to multiply those hours by a pretend hourly rate in order to make himself feel like he hadn't wasted his time.

Weather is nice today though.

They probably had an expert value the art.. how did you come up with a valuation sitting in your sofa typing on your shattered screen android phone

Nope, the $132,000 is an estimate from the 'artist' Bill Lyons. Clearly he's exaggerated the value for the insurance claim. He's not famous and he's one of those contemporary art wankers.

So how much is it Banksy?

I don't think anyone actually buys that shit

Banksy - Vote to love, parody of Brexit vote leave campaign poster painted over a ukip plaquard and on display at the royal academy summer exhibition, £350,000...it will sell!

You mean the piece that he submitted to the Royal Academy under a pseudonym and had rejected until it was submitted again as a Banksy. Just love art snobbery.

"

It was also priced at £350 million, not thousand. The price was a piss take...

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Well this took an unexpected turn......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah he's a kid .hes not guilty and neither is his mama.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah he's a kid .hes not guilty and neither is his mama."

Get this guy in our judicial system

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No they shouldn’t have to pay, if they are going to have valuable art on flimsy stands and allow kids access then it’s pretty much set up to go wrong if you ask me. They are insured for such things and you can’t accuse a 5 year old of being negligent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No they shouldn’t have to pay, if they are going to have valuable art on flimsy stands and allow kids access then it’s pretty much set up to go wrong if you ask me. They are insured for such things and you can’t accuse a 5 year old of being negligent. "

But you can sue his mum’s ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No they shouldn’t have to pay, if they are going to have valuable art on flimsy stands and allow kids access then it’s pretty much set up to go wrong if you ask me. They are insured for such things and you can’t accuse a 5 year old of being negligent.

But you can sue his mum’s ass "

In America maybe, wouldn’t happen over here. But in America the mother would sue them for allowing to fall on her son.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


""A mother has defended her son and refuses to take responsibility over the destruction of a statue at an art gallery.

Sarah Goodman was fined $132,000 (£100,277) after her son Troy knocked the Aphrodite di Kansas City off it’s pedestal.

He is seen on CCTV hugging the statue while his mother sat and chatted with other adults, failing to stop him from touching the art. It then fell onto him, damaging the statue’s arms and head."

.

Should she have to pay? "

I was in a very fancy ceramics shop in Sardinia. I jokingly said to the owner I was almost scared to move and how did he cope with tourists.

He said if parents came in with children he made it quite clear, you break it you buy it...seems fair to me.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


""A mother has defended her son and refuses to take responsibility over the destruction of a statue at an art gallery.

Sarah Goodman was fined $132,000 (£100,277) after her son Troy knocked the Aphrodite di Kansas City off it’s pedestal.

He is seen on CCTV hugging the statue while his mother sat and chatted with other adults, failing to stop him from touching the art. It then fell onto him, damaging the statue’s arms and head."

.

Should she have to pay?

I was in a very fancy ceramics shop in Sardinia. I jokingly said to the owner I was almost scared to move and how did he cope with tourists.

He said if parents came in with children he made it quite clear, you break it you buy it...seems fair to me. "

I remember signs in shops like this; "lovely to look at lovely to hold, but if you should break it consider it sold"

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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago

Germany / Manchester


"Yep she should and should also get to keep it."

Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Yep she should and should also get to keep it.

Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not."

I like your logic.

Chap a few doors up from me's got a Ferrari. Anyone got a kid I can borrow?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep she should and should also get to keep it.

Can't see why she gets to keep the statue, she's responsible for the child that broke somebody else's asset and therefore is paying for the damage. If I was an irresponsible parent and my child damaged your car, would you allow me to keep the car once the damage has been paid for? probably not."

Sounds like they're trying to claim for the full value of the statue not just the repairs. If I damage your car and it costs £2,000 to repair, you can't hit me with a bill for the full value of the car.

If the statue isn't repairable and they bill her the full value, in essence, what they are saying is, you break, you buy! That's why she gets to keep the statue in that situation. I'm sure it's the last thing she would want though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well this took an unexpected turn...... "

Anything can happen when we're a little simple minded

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By *ookingforlustMan
over a year ago

northants


"I’m sorry, but in my job I install all kinds of shit and it’s all in public areas. I have to provide method statements and risk assessments for everything I do. I have to provide certification for everything including my competence. I am liable for everything I do and have to ensure it is safe and secure.

The kid and his parents were enjoying a wedding reception. It’s the venues and exhibit installers responsibility to ensure the exhibit was safe. It didn’t get pushed over by an inebriated adult, it got hugged by a child.

So it’s statue’s fault?

Exactly!!! It was Venus de fucking Milo’s fault!!!

If you kid goes and damages neighbour’s car.. who’s ass is going to pay? "

Bit of a skewed analogy that though. There’s a big difference between deliberate vandalism and a young child hugging a statue. If the kid had been crushed to death everyone would be venting their spleen at whoever put the statue there, but beause the kid was unharmed the mother has been vilified and the kid demonised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes art creates such a reaction it gets attacked." Who's afraid of red yellow and blue" has been vandalised twice.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere !

So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported .

The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on .

The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was !

And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere !

So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported .

The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on .

The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was !

And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !"

That statue is worth more to him broken, than before!

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere !

So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported .

The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on .

The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was !

And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !

That statue is worth more to him broken, than before! "

Yep , what a result for him !

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I would guess the artist that made the statue will now be known all around the world . I mean if a thread started on a swinging site fills up , imagine what’s happening elsewhere !

So based on his worldwide publicity , he should accept that he’s a dick for allowing the community center to display it so haphazardly . It really wasn’t well supported .

The kid should get a telling off and be made aware that climbing on other people’s belongings isn’t on .

The parent should be fined , the insurance excess would be a good figure , and sent on a course which outlines how to be a responsible parent . I mean the bloody kid was only five and was running around the community centre for five minutes before she even knew where he was !

And the artist can laugh all the way to the bank now he is famous !"

Sounds reasonable all round....

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Mr bean got into some trouble at art gallerys ....

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

Yes the parent is totally responsible for her child . Not sure how they can implement the payment . Taken directly from income perhaps or a loan like a student loan with interest payment ? Means tested ? Are there signs like in some shops that say you pay if you break .

Good luck trying to get it .

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Did the gallery invite lots of kids and parents as a way to shift works of art that were overpriced and they couldn't find buyers for?

I can see that there's possibly some split responsibility here - the gallery for poor display settings and mum for not paying some attention. If it's the USA, you can kind of expect this. I'd still like to see a notice stating that all damage must be paid for.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes.

She should also be birched for displaying such poor parenting skills. Her child should be placed into care because they are clearly not safe with such an horrendous mother. And they both should have life bans from visiting anything that is arty in any way.

Or......

The arty place claims on their insurance and we leave the mother and child alone, because at the end of the day, everyone’s kid has broke something somewhere by doing something they shouldn’t have while mum/dad weren’t watching.

I like

Nooo! Sue the hell out of her! I like seeing blood

I just liked his post, especially the first bit...I have given no view of whether I think she should pay or not

I don’t care if she should pay or not! I just want a long court case that is an example to other pesky kids and lazy ass parents

They’d took their kid to an art exhibition. They can’t be that lazy. Health and safety in public access areas is far easier to get a win on than proving parental neglect.

I’m just mad a kids because the other day i have a lift to my friend and his kid and the kid kept on winding up and down the electric window and his dad said nothing! "

Did you tell the kid to stop it?

I've given a friend and her kids a lift before. The kids were pissing about and distracting me while their mother said nothing. I told the kids to either stop messing about or I'd stop the car and they could get out because they were making it dangerous for everyone.

They stopped pissing about.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"Yes plain and simple.

I think all parents should pay for their children and take responsibility if the child can't be prosecuted from criminal behaviour then the parents need to be made to pay

No difference to dog fouling

Did I tell you that you look like the picture of a late person? "

What you on about Willis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say pay the kid. The sculpture was pants.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I say pay the kid. The sculpture was pants. "

Definately not a banksy

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Was it really worth so much money? Can't they just make another one?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Was it really worth so much money? Can't they just make another one? "

No, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say pay the kid. The sculpture was pants.

Definately not a banksy "

Which loosely has reminded me I have to book my tickets for the Summer Exhibition at the RA, thanks

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x"

Because the child was invited

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x"

Why shouldn't the child be there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why take the child in the first place. The child should be old enough to know not to touch x

Why shouldn't the child be there? "

Child needs to be old enough to appreciate the art and not to touch it. There are plenty of museums and galleries that are interactive so take them there instead x

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