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"But the only way to do it would be to cap the single men at say 500 in an area. If they're all twats then the women are no better off. " Exactly | |||
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"But the only way to do it would be to cap the single men at say 500 in an area. If they're all twats then the women are no better off. " Very true .. i would hope that all 500 would not be twats ..the ones that prove they are not would have much more fun | |||
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"But the only way to do it would be to cap the single men at say 500 in an area. If they're all twats then the women are no better off. Very true .. i would hope that all 500 would not be twats ..the ones that prove they are not would have much more fun " But even if they're not twats they may not be compatible with the ladies. | |||
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"At the moment those ladies have most likely had to either block single guys or employ a full time admin assistant to help them manage their inbox So i dont think they are finding it easy to find those compatible either " Thats a crap excuse if you send the right message you will get a reply then its up to you to hold a conversation | |||
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"The site owners know how many profiles they have and of what type ..single fem ..couples...single guys . Etc for a given area . It seems reasonable to simply.not allow more single guys to join whem the ratio is 20 to 1 or above already And they cant say its about revenue ..a huge proportion dont pay site support anyway" here is your hypothetical: you decide to delete your verified profile, just cos of 'stuff', you come back in a couple of months in a new unverified profile...but fab then says.. no thanks too many guys in this area..please come back later. aye..ok... I dont fucking care how other guys run their profiles or 'ruin' it for other guys..at the end of the day,you cannot limit a sex,a gender, a race from accessing a FREE site and remember not everyone remains a site supporter forever. | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. " I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic" I dont care how many guys join Im conserned with myself just because a lass i like meets another guy doesnt meen i wont meet her down the line as long as were all having a good time they can add as many as they want | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic I dont care how many guys join Im conserned with myself just because a lass i like meets another guy doesnt meen i wont meet her down the line as long as were all having a good time they can add as many as they want" | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic" You have two options OP. You can set up a whiny thread under some sort of pseudo demographic agreement and take the responses that come. Or you can just accept fab as It is. Why should it be changed to suit your personal preferences issues or to meet your desired outcome. Actually OP there is a third option....if you don't like fab the way it's is.... | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic You have two options OP. You can set up a whiny thread under some sort of pseudo demographic agreement and take the responses that come. Or you can just accept fab as It is. Why should it be changed to suit your personal preferences issues or to meet your desired outcome. Actually OP there is a third option....if you don't like fab the way it's is...." Actually . Im not Whining I havent whined at any point .. i simply pointed out a fact..ie the the numbers of profiles..followed by an opinion ..that in my opinion the ratio causes problems.on both sides ..and perhaps there should be a limit im pretty sure im emtitled to hold an opinion Unpess your going to tell me i cant ?? Which would be a bit rich after that response | |||
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"But the only way to do it would be to cap the single men at say 500 in an area. If they're all twats then the women are no better off. " | |||
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"The site owners know how many profiles they have and of what type ..single fem ..couples...single guys . Etc for a given area . It seems reasonable to simply.not allow more single guys to join whem the ratio is 20 to 1 or above already And they cant say its about revenue ..a huge proportion dont pay site support anyway" Or let the women search from the huge range of men available. They can do it in stealth mode if they are nervous of searching. Its the logical thing to do, they get to communicate only with who they want and it tajes the pressure off blokes. Sisters doing it for themselves as it were. | |||
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"Actually . Im not Whining I havent whined at any point .. i simply pointed out a fact..ie the the numbers of profiles..followed by an opinion ..that in my opinion the ratio causes problems.on both sides ..and perhaps there should be a limit im pretty sure im emtitled to hold an opinion Unpess your going to tell me i cant ?? Which would be a bit rich after that response " To be totally honest it does sound like you’re quite bitter about it... you want to ‘cap’ men signing up so you have less competition but you’re also saying it’s to save women complaining... I understand there’s probably a lot of rude guys on here who are literally just messaging every woman the same copy and paste messages and so on but step up your game and I’m sure you’ll be alright Don’t forget though, that women do check your veri’s to see what type of women you’ve gone for previously, my friend did this a lot, she used to check the guys veri’s to see if what type of women they went for (mainly to see if they just slept with anyone and everyone) | |||
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"Everyone of legal age should be allowed to join. Just means more competition. Try harder to stand out and women can set up loads of filters if they don't want certain people texting them and can easily block. Why should someone who might have only heard of the site yesterday not be allowed to join? Because you feel like there's too much competition? Na let them join. I apreciate that. There was a time i had not heard of fab . And was pleased to join ..and im sure there were people who thought ..oh for fucks sake ..another single guy has joined even then .. IT just seems oddly disproportionate In society There are those who are single Those in relationships Amd in general Over all Its mostly balanced Those looking and those hoping to be found etc Fab seems absurdly dis proportionate in demographic" It's the nature of the beast, this is not representative of society - number of men wanting to fuck strangers without any kind of commitment vs number of women wanting to fuck strangers with no kind of commitment. Guess what - there's 20x more men want that! | |||
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"It's the nature of the beast, this is not representative of society - number of men wanting to fuck strangers without any kind of commitment vs number of women wanting to fuck strangers with no kind of commitment. Guess what - there's 20x more men want that! " | |||
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"The site owners know how many profiles they have and of what type ..single fem ..couples...single guys . Etc for a given area . It seems reasonable to simply.not allow more single guys to join whem the ratio is 20 to 1 or above already And they cant say its about revenue ..a huge proportion dont pay site support anyway Or let the women search from the huge range of men available. They can do it in stealth mode if they are nervous of searching. Its the logical thing to do, they get to communicate only with who they want and it tajes the pressure off blokes. Sisters doing it for themselves as it were." Great idea. I think that would make a massive difference. | |||
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"The site owners know how many profiles they have and of what type ..single fem ..couples...single guys . Etc for a given area . It seems reasonable to simply.not allow more single guys to join whem the ratio is 20 to 1 or above already And they cant say its about revenue ..a huge proportion dont pay site support anyway Or let the women search from the huge range of men available. They can do it in stealth mode if they are nervous of searching. Its the logical thing to do, they get to communicate only with who they want and it tajes the pressure off blokes. Sisters doing it for themselves as it were. Great idea. I think that would make a massive difference. " That's how I do it I wait to be massaged if they are interested. Still waiting but one day. It would be unfair to stop new users joining stand up and make your self seen. | |||
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"Maybe if the men on here learned to read profiles only messaging those where they were what the lady is looking instead of blanket messaging inappropriately, life would be improved for all users! " Preach. And while I'm not going to engage with everyone who sends me an appropriate message, necessarily (I don't like everyone, I don't have time, I get overwhelmed)... it'll put you in the best 20% of messages I get. Like yes, seriously, it's not that hard. | |||
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"No I don't think they should let limit the numbers of men allowed to join in an area. Not so many females want casual sex...fact...so there will always be fewer females available for fucking. I think a lot of men join Fab thinking they are fuck entitled...if you want a guaranteed fuck call a prostitute. And if you want a guaranteed chat call a chat line. " | |||
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"Maybe if the men on here learned to read profiles only messaging those where they were what the lady is looking instead of blanket messaging inappropriately, life would be improved for all users! " I always think this is a Catch22 statement. I think a lot of guys start off reading the profiles, crafting a message, taking their time, trying really hard.....and get no result. So they then start copying and pasting.......and get no real result. From that they then start carpet bombing and adding to the problem I do think the numbers skew things. I have to say, I wouldn't use this site as a single guy. Its all very well saying you have to stand out from the crowd, but with whats limited to a few photos, a few words and message service, thats bloody hard! | |||
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"No I don't think they should let limit the numbers of men allowed to join in an area. Not so many females want casual sex...fact...so there will always be fewer females available for fucking. I think a lot of men join Fab thinking they are fuck entitled...if you want a guaranteed fuck call a prostitute. And if you want a guaranteed chat call a chat line. " Yes. The amount of crap I get because I don't want to meet someone. Hey, I'm a person, I get to say no? | |||
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"Maybe if the men on here learned to read profiles only messaging those where they were what the lady is looking instead of blanket messaging inappropriately, life would be improved for all users! I always think this is a Catch22 statement. I think a lot of guys start off reading the profiles, crafting a message, taking their time, trying really hard.....and get no result. So they then start copying and pasting.......and get no real result. From that they then start carpet bombing and adding to the problem I do think the numbers skew things. I have to say, I wouldn't use this site as a single guy. Its all very well saying you have to stand out from the crowd, but with whats limited to a few photos, a few words and message service, thats bloody hard! " I can certainly understand it being demoralising, but seriously, all I want to know is, what interests you about me as a person, what do you think we have in common, and what do you think you have to offer? I would have thought that was a logical way of messaging anyway. If we don't have that we're not getting anywhere. And an attempt at answering these questions means you're better than the vast majority of my inbox. | |||
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"Maybe if the men on here learned to read profiles only messaging those where they were what the lady is looking instead of blanket messaging inappropriately, life would be improved for all users! I always think this is a Catch22 statement. I think a lot of guys start off reading the profiles, crafting a message, taking their time, trying really hard.....and get no result. So they then start copying and pasting.......and get no real result. From that they then start carpet bombing and adding to the problem I do think the numbers skew things. I have to say, I wouldn't use this site as a single guy. Its all very well saying you have to stand out from the crowd, but with whats limited to a few photos, a few words and message service, thats bloody hard! " | |||
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"Perhaps fab should introduce some sort of quality control? Only the sexy intelligent guys are allowed in. " Define sexy and intelligent? Ambiguous at best .... I've saw women drool over and make threads about sexiest guys and I think they're ugly and they can't hold a conversation for toffee | |||
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"Perhaps fab should introduce some sort of quality control? Only the sexy intelligent guys are allowed in. Define sexy and intelligent? Ambiguous at best .... I've saw women drool over and make threads about sexiest guys and I think they're ugly and they can't hold a conversation for toffee" Oh. According to me. Ps.I was being flippant in my response as I don't believe that the volume of guys is a problem. Ignoring 100 unsuitable messages is as easy as ignoring 1. | |||
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"No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limit." Sky is the limit | |||
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" I can certainly understand it being demoralising, but seriously, all I want to know is, what interests you about me as a person, what do you think we have in common, and what do you think you have to offer? I would have thought that was a logical way of messaging anyway. If we don't have that we're not getting anywhere. And an attempt at answering these questions means you're better than the vast majority of my inbox. " Ok, stand on the outside of that statement. Its all about the men proving to you that they are good enough for you. What do they have to offer you? Why should you be bothered with them? Its already stating who is in charge. Who has the upper hand. Its hardly an equal relationship (I don't mean a romantic relationship). Now I understand why you take the approach you do. But its the numbers pressure that skews it all in the females favour and allows you to have the advantage. If a guy doesn't make your grade, you just jog him on and move onto the next guy. He doesn't have that option. | |||
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" I can certainly understand it being demoralising, but seriously, all I want to know is, what interests you about me as a person, what do you think we have in common, and what do you think you have to offer? I would have thought that was a logical way of messaging anyway. If we don't have that we're not getting anywhere. And an attempt at answering these questions means you're better than the vast majority of my inbox. Ok, stand on the outside of that statement. Its all about the men proving to you that they are good enough for you. What do they have to offer you? Why should you be bothered with them? Its already stating who is in charge. Who has the upper hand. Its hardly an equal relationship (I don't mean a romantic relationship). Now I understand why you take the approach you do. But its the numbers pressure that skews it all in the females favour and allows you to have the advantage. If a guy doesn't make your grade, you just jog him on and move onto the next guy. He doesn't have that option." If the numbers went the other way then I'd reverse it. And indeed when I reply I try to do so as an equal. I'm not up on some high horse here. I'm not better than anyone else, the demographics just work in my favour. I just don't see what's so desperately difficult for apparently the majority of guys, to be able to say "you interest me because x". Preferably where I'm not left feeling like they'd shag anything with a pulse and a vagina. On the rare occasion I send first messages that's what I do. It's basic communication. | |||
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"The cream always rises to the top,limiting numbers won't change this. Having a ripped body gives no guarantees,neither does having a big cock. You can either play the game or you can't and will struggle. Fab isn't a one stop shop to swinging,its not the be all to the scene. My first 3sum,no Internet First group fun,no Internet First bi fun,no Internet There's a whole lot of fun out there that doesn't revolve around being on Fabswingers." Cream does always rise to the top, unfortunately so does scum! | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop " At leat post once per week | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop At leat post once per week" And at *least* one post per month correcting someone else for bad grammar or a typo | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop " That's a good idea. Maybe they could advertise that the forums exist. | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop " You would end up with 15 people on the site, all playing Kiss, Shag, Avoid! | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop " The forum is not at all appropriate for finding meets for everyone. I find all of my interesting and characterful men well away from the forum. The forum certainly doesn't represent the cream of the crop. It represents those that are here mainly to chat and those that like the sound of their own voices! | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop The forum is not at all appropriate for finding meets for everyone. I find all of my interesting and characterful men well away from the forum. The forum certainly doesn't represent the cream of the crop. It represents those that are here mainly to chat and those that like the sound of their own voices!" It was a joke | |||
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"At the moment those ladies have most likely had to either block single guys or employ a full time admin assistant to help them manage their inbox So i dont think they are finding it easy to find those compatible either " Actually that’s not entirely accurate, it is possible providing you’re prepared to present your profile accordingly. No pics worked amazingly well for me in attracting what I wanted. Despite being told ‘no pics = no meets’ | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop " If the forum was that good,every guy on the forum would be having a meet every week. It's a very very small number who use the forum out of 33,000 people who are logged on at one time. | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop If the forum was that good,every guy on the forum would be having a meet every week. It's a very very small number who use the forum out of 33,000 people who are logged on at one time. " Men are challenged to differentiate themselves yet their messages to popular women on here, the one place they have a chance to do this, usually disappear unread into a pile. I've found the forum to be the only place where I can reliably connect and exchange half decent conversations with attractive women. Nothing has yet come of it though precisely because so few people use the forum so people are too spread out on here. If more used it I'm sure it would be a wonderful way for men to differentiate themselves. As it is it seems we only have pics and status updates to try doing that. | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop If the forum was that good,every guy on the forum would be having a meet every week. It's a very very small number who use the forum out of 33,000 people who are logged on at one time. Men are challenged to differentiate themselves yet their messages to popular women on here, the one place they have a chance to do this, usually disappear unread into a pile. I've found the forum to be the only place where I can reliably connect and exchange half decent conversations with attractive women. Nothing has yet come of it though precisely because so few people use the forum so people are too spread out on here. If more used it I'm sure it would be a wonderful way for men to differentiate themselves. As it is it seems we only have pics and status updates to try doing that. " Be careful ..your in danger of acknowledging fab isnt perfect .. you will be accused of whining or wishing your the last man on earth soon. | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop If the forum was that good,every guy on the forum would be having a meet every week. It's a very very small number who use the forum out of 33,000 people who are logged on at one time. Men are challenged to differentiate themselves yet their messages to popular women on here, the one place they have a chance to do this, usually disappear unread into a pile. I've found the forum to be the only place where I can reliably connect and exchange half decent conversations with attractive women. Nothing has yet come of it though precisely because so few people use the forum so people are too spread out on here. If more used it I'm sure it would be a wonderful way for men to differentiate themselves. As it is it seems we only have pics and status updates to try doing that. Be careful ..your in danger of acknowledging fab isnt perfect .. you will be accused of whining or wishing your the last man on earth soon." Oh but I am whining haha See... you guys are a perfect case in point. A sexy twosome happy to let a conversation unfold in an unpressured environment. Just as if you walked into a bar, all the nervous guys put themselves out of the game by remaining in the shadows, the idiots come up and give the verbal equivalent of an annoying ass pinch, and then there's the other guys, either boring or half interesting, stood at the bar, either capable of holding a conversation or cracking a joke and standing out or not. That's what needs properly modelling online, both for dating and for this imo (leans over and does annoying ass pinch haha ) | |||
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"The forums work well to differentiate interesting and characterful men confident enough to post something from jerks without a clue. If it was my site I'd recognise that's the winning ingredient and turn the whole site into a forum... you don't post anything, your membership expires. Force people to chat and, like at a club, you'd soon be making friends and pairing off. Unfortunately on here, however, only a very few read or use the forums. I'd like to imagine that among men it's the cream of the crop If the forum was that good,every guy on the forum would be having a meet every week. It's a very very small number who use the forum out of 33,000 people who are logged on at one time. Men are challenged to differentiate themselves yet their messages to popular women on here, the one place they have a chance to do this, usually disappear unread into a pile. I've found the forum to be the only place where I can reliably connect and exchange half decent conversations with attractive women. Nothing has yet come of it though precisely because so few people use the forum so people are too spread out on here. If more used it I'm sure it would be a wonderful way for men to differentiate themselves. As it is it seems we only have pics and status updates to try doing that. Be careful ..your in danger of acknowledging fab isnt perfect .. you will be accused of whining or wishing your the last man on earth soon. Oh but I am whining haha See... you guys are a perfect case in point. A sexy twosome happy to let a conversation unfold in an unpressured environment. Just as if you walked into a bar, all the nervous guys put themselves out of the game by remaining in the shadows, the idiots come up and give the verbal equivalent of an annoying ass pinch, and then there's the other guys, either boring or half interesting, stood at the bar, either capable of holding a conversation or cracking a joke and standing out or not. That's what needs properly modelling online, both for dating and for this imo (leans over and does annoying ass pinch haha ) " Haha very good | |||
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