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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father) "

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other.

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

Mothering Sunday had nothing to do with buying cards for parents, its origins were in the church. It came from a day where people who had moved away would return to their mother church to worship.

It evolved into what see today. Which lead to the introduction of Father’s Day too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, it's a celebration of father's. That doesn't mean others aren't important, they are recognised and sure, devote a day to them too....but....this is father's day, don't detract from it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father) "

My son informed me this morning that its head of the house day today

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there should be a daughter's day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" No, it's a celebration of father's. That doesn't mean others aren't important, they are recognised and sure, devote a day to them too....but....this is father's day, don't detract from it. "

Agree with this.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Celebrate the people who look after you when you're growing up. It doesn't matter what the day's called

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone don't have a kid on their own, then you can't call them as mother or father... If you just look after someone's kid then they are just a caretaker or guardian..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think anything that adds Yet another "day" to the calender can only be good news for greetings card manufacturers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its all a bit sentimental isnt it, any parent worth their salt wouldn't give two hoots about whose day it was. We know our kids love and appreciate us all yr round *snort

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its all a bit sentimental isnt it, any parent worth their salt wouldn't give two hoots about whose day it was. We know our kids love and appreciate us all yr round *snort

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Loving, appreciative kids??! That's the craziest thing I've read today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its all a bit sentimental isnt it, any parent worth their salt wouldn't give two hoots about whose day it was. We know our kids love and appreciate us all yr round *snort

Loving, appreciative kids??! That's the craziest thing I've read today. "

I nearly died laughing typing it, but Im sure it must be true right?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves "

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Its all a bit sentimental isnt it, any parent worth their salt wouldn't give two hoots about whose day it was. We know our kids love and appreciate us all yr round *snort

Loving, appreciative kids??! That's the craziest thing I've read today.

I nearly died laughing typing it, but Im sure it must be true right? "

They love and appreciate you when they want something. A bit like cats.

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By *ubiousOatcakeMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


" No, it's a celebration of father's. That doesn't mean others aren't important, they are recognised and sure, devote a day to them too....but....this is father's day, don't detract from it. "

Does it diminish your enjoyment of the day if, somewhere out there, someone is doing something different?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think anything that adds Yet another "day" to the calender can only be good news for greetings card manufacturers "

Very true ! Americans for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone don't have a kid on their own, then you can't call them as mother or father... If you just look after someone's kid then they are just a caretaker or guardian.."

I disagree - there at meant thousands of adoptive parents out there raising some very challenging children, and they are absolutely the child's parents, not "caretakers" - legally and psychologically. Same for step parents who have raised a child from a young age where their biological parent was absent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many (Not meant)*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" No, it's a celebration of father's. That doesn't mean others aren't important, they are recognised and sure, devote a day to them too....but....this is father's day, don't detract from it.

Does it diminish your enjoyment of the day if, somewhere out there, someone is doing something different?"

Not at all. But I wonder why celebrating it differently (guardians day for instance) has to highlight another celebration to gain significance.

Celebrate anything you want, but dont detract from another in order to do so?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think anything that adds Yet another "day" to the calender can only be good news for greetings card manufacturers "

Wasn't adding... Was actually taking away and combining mothers day and father's day

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim..."

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I really enjoy getting my dad a present on father's day as a small thank you for what he has done for me.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"No I really enjoy getting my dad a present on father's day as a small thank you for what he has done for me. "

You could still do that on parents /guardian day

Although guardian day just makes me think of talking space raccoons

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry "

Thanks for clarifying it's vunerable naracassim then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No I really enjoy getting my dad a present on father's day as a small thank you for what he has done for me.

You could still do that on parents /guardian day

Although guardian day just makes me think of talking space raccoons "

I could do but I quite like the separate days,could potentially be twice as expensive if had to do both on same day.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry

Thanks for clarifying it's vunerable naracassim then"

Vulnerable naracassim? How so?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"No I really enjoy getting my dad a present on father's day as a small thank you for what he has done for me.

You could still do that on parents /guardian day

Although guardian day just makes me think of talking space raccoons

I could do but I quite like the separate days,could potentially be twice as expensive if had to do both on same day."

Hmmm that's true.... It's good that they are spread put a bit.

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By *sRedbbwWoman
over a year ago

Amwythig

We have stepkids and share equal parental responsibility with their mum and her husband but my daughter only has me and my partner. She bought him a present for the first time without being prompted, after 6 years.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry

Thanks for clarifying it's vunerable naracassim then

Vulnerable naracassim? How so? "

Vulnerable narcissists are people who are preoccupied with fear, hyper sensitive to any rejection or any personal slight (real or imagined) and revel in being a victim.

Since it's fathers day, we've had a least 3 threads by people that have remind us that some people don't have fathers, mothers are awesome too (even though they have their own day for that) and 'should it even be called fathers day?'.

I'm drawing a link there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone don't have a kid on their own, then you can't call them as mother or father... If you just look after someone's kid then they are just a caretaker or guardian..

I disagree - there at meant thousands of adoptive parents out there raising some very challenging children, and they are absolutely the child's parents, not "caretakers" - legally and psychologically. Same for step parents who have raised a child from a young age where their biological parent was absent."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think its a load of commercial shit. And yes i am mam. And a grand parent.

I dont need 1 day a year to know my children love or appreciate me. They dont need to prove that to me with a mass produced peice of card.

My mam however is the complete oppisite. And if i dont get her a card and a gift then i am made out to be the absolute devils daughter.

My dad couldnt care less seen as he died 10 years ago.

Its nit about having a day for each kind of parent/ care giver

Its about guilt and money making.

Just my opinion though.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!! OP   Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry

Thanks for clarifying it's vunerable naracassim then

Vulnerable naracassim? How so?

Vulnerable narcissists are people who are preoccupied with fear, hyper sensitive to any rejection or any personal slight (real or imagined) and revel in being a victim.

Since it's fathers day, we've had a least 3 threads by people that have remind us that some people don't have fathers, mothers are awesome too (even though they have their own day for that) and 'should it even be called fathers day?'.

I'm drawing a link there. "

Are you drawing it with crayon?

I'm neither a mother or a father or a guardian. I was simply posing a question. I happily bought my father a present and a card for today the same as I did with my mother on mother's day.

If we don't question the 'norm' then nothing changes. Most of the 'fear' I've seen have been the responses from those who feel that celebrating other types of father roles diminishes their very being.

But I'm sure you'll come back with some stat or something from a study run by fathers fir justice or some other group with a vested interest in manipulating statistics to serve their own cause.

I've stated my question and the reason for it, I will not get into a discussion about it with you because you think you are right..... Always.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other. "

I’m currently sitting in the lounge with my son!

He’s waiting for his dad to pick him up - and clearly not excited at the prospect! It was supposed to be the kid’s weekend to sleep at their dads (thur, fri and Saturday night) - yet he stayed here 2 out of those 3 nights as he has little regard for his father - justified imo!

On Friday I had to spend money I don’t really have on cards (sadly they don’t have cards that say ‘to an adequate father on Father’s Day!) and presents that he’ll glance at and never use (he’s a millionaire but spends his money on himself and his gf rather than his children).

On the other hand - my own dad was an amazing father - and I just wish he was here to be a surrogate dad to my own son - but unfortunately he died 10 years ago!

It doesn’t matter what ‘special days’ we have! Some people will be worthy of the love and attention/appreciation that those days are designed to attract - and some won’t!

If you find someone truly worthy of love and appreciation - just tell them/appreciate them regularly - don’t wait for a special ‘hallmark cards’ day! Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other.

I’m currently sitting in the lounge with my son!

He’s waiting for his dad to pick him up - and clearly not excited at the prospect! It was supposed to be the kid’s weekend to sleep at their dads (thur, fri and Saturday night) - yet he stayed here 2 out of those 3 nights as he has little regard for his father - justified imo!

On Friday I had to spend money I don’t really have on cards (sadly they don’t have cards that say ‘to an adequate father on Father’s Day!) and presents that he’ll glance at and never use (he’s a millionaire but spends his money on himself and his gf rather than his children).

On the other hand - my own dad was an amazing father - and I just wish he was here to be a surrogate dad to my own son - but unfortunately he died 10 years ago!

It doesn’t matter what ‘special days’ we have! Some people will be worthy of the love and attention/appreciation that those days are designed to attract - and some won’t!

If you find someone truly worthy of love and appreciation - just tell them/appreciate them regularly - don’t wait for a special ‘hallmark cards’ day! Xxx"

I don't understand dad's who are not in their children's lives. My ex was a total bitch to me hence we broke up but even though I dislike her as a person she is an amazing mother to our kids and for that I have total respect for her as a mother.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves

It's hard to work out if they are coming from a place of misandry or naracassim...

Again..... Not just fathers day so fuck all to do with misandry

Thanks for clarifying it's vunerable naracassim then

Vulnerable naracassim? How so?

Vulnerable narcissists are people who are preoccupied with fear, hyper sensitive to any rejection or any personal slight (real or imagined) and revel in being a victim.

Since it's fathers day, we've had a least 3 threads by people that have remind us that some people don't have fathers, mothers are awesome too (even though they have their own day for that) and 'should it even be called fathers day?'.

I'm drawing a link there.

Are you drawing it with crayon?

I'm neither a mother or a father or a guardian. I was simply posing a question. I happily bought my father a present and a card for today the same as I did with my mother on mother's day.

If we don't question the 'norm' then nothing changes. Most of the 'fear' I've seen have been the responses from those who feel that celebrating other types of father roles diminishes their very being.

But I'm sure you'll come back with some stat or something from a study run by fathers fir justice or some other group with a vested interest in manipulating statistics to serve their own cause.

I've stated my question and the reason for it, I will not get into a discussion about it with you because you think you are right..... Always. "

Well i originally leaned towards

misandry, but you told me that wasn't it.

You didn't 'just pose a question', you projected a view that some people are doing both roles as a mother and a father. I'm just saying that is counter-factual because it's impossible.

If i was just one thread then i would have kept my feelings to myself, but there's a reason there were 3. You didn't see threads like "what about all the exceptions" on mothers day.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other.

I’m currently sitting in the lounge with my son!

He’s waiting for his dad to pick him up - and clearly not excited at the prospect! It was supposed to be the kid’s weekend to sleep at their dads (thur, fri and Saturday night) - yet he stayed here 2 out of those 3 nights as he has little regard for his father - justified imo!

On Friday I had to spend money I don’t really have on cards (sadly they don’t have cards that say ‘to an adequate father on Father’s Day!) and presents that he’ll glance at and never use (he’s a millionaire but spends his money on himself and his gf rather than his children).

On the other hand - my own dad was an amazing father - and I just wish he was here to be a surrogate dad to my own son - but unfortunately he died 10 years ago!

It doesn’t matter what ‘special days’ we have! Some people will be worthy of the love and attention/appreciation that those days are designed to attract - and some won’t!

If you find someone truly worthy of love and appreciation - just tell them/appreciate them regularly - don’t wait for a special ‘hallmark cards’ day! Xxx

I don't understand dad's who are not in their children's lives. My ex was a total bitch to me hence we broke up but even though I dislike her as a person she is an amazing mother to our kids and for that I have total respect for her as a mother. "

To be fair to my ex - I don’t think he should ever have had kids - he doesn’t have the ability to put others first which is vital for a decent parent!

From what I can gather, his parents pretty much badgered him into ‘settling down and starting a family ‘ once he’d climbed the career ladder!

If they hadn’t I think it would have been better for him - but then I wouldn’t be blessed with kids I adore!

Life is never simple! Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone don't have a kid on their own, then you can't call them as mother or father... If you just look after someone's kid then they are just a caretaker or guardian.."

I think that depends entirely on the childs take on that...some nin blood related parents are more of a father or mother to a child than their blood relations are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other.

I’m currently sitting in the lounge with my son!

He’s waiting for his dad to pick him up - and clearly not excited at the prospect! It was supposed to be the kid’s weekend to sleep at their dads (thur, fri and Saturday night) - yet he stayed here 2 out of those 3 nights as he has little regard for his father - justified imo!

On Friday I had to spend money I don’t really have on cards (sadly they don’t have cards that say ‘to an adequate father on Father’s Day!) and presents that he’ll glance at and never use (he’s a millionaire but spends his money on himself and his gf rather than his children).

On the other hand - my own dad was an amazing father - and I just wish he was here to be a surrogate dad to my own son - but unfortunately he died 10 years ago!

It doesn’t matter what ‘special days’ we have! Some people will be worthy of the love and attention/appreciation that those days are designed to attract - and some won’t!

If you find someone truly worthy of love and appreciation - just tell them/appreciate them regularly - don’t wait for a special ‘hallmark cards’ day! Xxx

I don't understand dad's who are not in their children's lives. My ex was a total bitch to me hence we broke up but even though I dislike her as a person she is an amazing mother to our kids and for that I have total respect for her as a mother.

To be fair to my ex - I don’t think he should ever have had kids - he doesn’t have the ability to put others first which is vital for a decent parent!

From what I can gather, his parents pretty much badgered him into ‘settling down and starting a family ‘ once he’d climbed the career ladder!

If they hadn’t I think it would have been better for him - but then I wouldn’t be blessed with kids I adore!

Life is never simple! Xx"

No and you would think it would be easier as you get older but it just seems to get harder. X

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"Given that the make up of families can be far from 'traditional' these days and quite often one parent is taking on both roles of mother and father, do you think we should scrap mother's day and father's day and just have parents day? Or maybe guardian's day (reflecting that those who look after children might not be their mother or father)

I think that having more and more days like that makes things overly sentimentalised. There will always be a degree of ‘what about them’ with regards to specific arrangements, conversely there are people who have no contact with fathers or mothers who feel marginalised by those days.

Ultimately people will feel left out or let down by these days in some degree or other.

I’m currently sitting in the lounge with my son!

He’s waiting for his dad to pick him up - and clearly not excited at the prospect! It was supposed to be the kid’s weekend to sleep at their dads (thur, fri and Saturday night) - yet he stayed here 2 out of those 3 nights as he has little regard for his father - justified imo!

On Friday I had to spend money I don’t really have on cards (sadly they don’t have cards that say ‘to an adequate father on Father’s Day!) and presents that he’ll glance at and never use (he’s a millionaire but spends his money on himself and his gf rather than his children).

On the other hand - my own dad was an amazing father - and I just wish he was here to be a surrogate dad to my own son - but unfortunately he died 10 years ago!

It doesn’t matter what ‘special days’ we have! Some people will be worthy of the love and attention/appreciation that those days are designed to attract - and some won’t!

If you find someone truly worthy of love and appreciation - just tell them/appreciate them regularly - don’t wait for a special ‘hallmark cards’ day! Xxx

I don't understand dad's who are not in their children's lives. My ex was a total bitch to me hence we broke up but even though I dislike her as a person she is an amazing mother to our kids and for that I have total respect for her as a mother.

To be fair to my ex - I don’t think he should ever have had kids - he doesn’t have the ability to put others first which is vital for a decent parent!

From what I can gather, his parents pretty much badgered him into ‘settling down and starting a family ‘ once he’d climbed the career ladder!

If they hadn’t I think it would have been better for him - but then I wouldn’t be blessed with kids I adore!

Life is never simple! Xx

No and you would think it would be easier as you get older but it just seems to get harder. X "

I think it gets harder because we understand and empathise more as we get older - or should do!

Youth tends to see things in black and white- which makes life very simple!

Age and intelligence generally leads us to see life in shades of grey - which often makes it more difficult! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would bet that the majority of people who suggest that fathers day should be renamed, are not fathers themselves "

I missed that. Was it said on here?

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