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"If you were approached by a woman on here you found to be very physically attractive, ticked your boxes and was clearly into you from the off. She makes clear that she wants to have casual sex but just before meeting let's you know she's cheating. Would you guys go through with it? Do us men have as much of a problem with this as many women seem to?" It's always dependant on the situation, but as a general rule, no, I don't agree with cheating and won't take part in it. I think people that don't care about cheating have never been on the recieving end of a cheating partner, because if they had, they wouldn't want to put someone else through it | |||
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"Probably wouldn't go through with it. Would feel for the bloke who would be cheated on." I agree. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would feel awful. Doesn't seem fair to subject somebody to that. | |||
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"Perhaps it isn't representative of the whole, but you posted here and asked people what they would do, not what we think most other people would do " I know what I posted and I did say that I respected the responses. I also know that it is frowned upon by many of the more vocal forumites so many people would avoid posting an unpopular position. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here." Or are they lying? Ooo dilemma of dilemmas What's that phrase they sometimes use to talk about how people on social media will claim moral high ground because it's easily done when it's just text and hypotheticals? Value posturing? Something like that | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. " I was cheated on, it was heart breaking and horrific. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here." Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. | |||
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"No I wouldn’t. They should man up and have the conversation with their partner. " I specifically directed the Op at female cheating, I may be wrong but believe it is a slightly different dynamic. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. I was cheated on, it was heart breaking and horrific. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. " Is that the main reason you wouldn't because you've been on the receiving end? | |||
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"No I wouldn’t. They should man up and have the conversation with their partner. I specifically directed the Op at female cheating, I may be wrong but believe it is a slightly different dynamic." Man up is a phrase she doesnt litteraly mean men | |||
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"No I wouldn’t. They should man up and have the conversation with their partner. I specifically directed the Op at female cheating, I may be wrong but believe it is a slightly different dynamic. Man up is a phrase she doesnt litteraly mean men " | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Or are they lying? Ooo dilemma of dilemmas What's that phrase they sometimes use to talk about how people on social media will claim moral high ground because it's easily done when it's just text and hypotheticals? Value posturing? Something like that " Yeah I didn't actually believe what I wrote in all honesty. | |||
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"No I wouldn’t. They should man up and have the conversation with their partner. I specifically directed the Op at female cheating, I may be wrong but believe it is a slightly different dynamic. Man up is a phrase she doesnt litteraly mean men " That seems to assume that women cheat because they want to leave their partner, In my opinion that's rarely the case. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet." We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. | |||
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"A lot more men than women would in the end I believe. Some would say no in theory but then crack if they wanted them badly enough." Whenever I've had this conversation around just men (and I have on many occasions) very few if any say no in theory. The only issue is usually the chances of being caught. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. I was cheated on, it was heart breaking and horrific. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Is that the main reason you wouldn't because you've been on the receiving end?" It is one of the reasons. A lot of people get hurt. I also believe it just isn't right, maybe I'm just old fashioned. | |||
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"No I wouldn’t. They should man up and have the conversation with their partner. I specifically directed the Op at female cheating, I may be wrong but believe it is a slightly different dynamic. Man up is a phrase she doesnt litteraly mean men That seems to assume that women cheat because they want to leave their partner, In my opinion that's rarely the case." How did you equate it to that. I mean quite the opposite... tell your partner you want to (stay in the relationship and) swing. Not leave. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman." You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. " Or perhaps select specific morals? Every one knows the described scenario will never be approved of. But all sorts of things happen outside the socially accepted blueprint. I think if people know they can get away with things, there's a lot they would do! | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. " There are quite a few married men on here who are extremely popular both on the forums and as far as getting meets goes. I can't say they've never been turned down but I suspect the ratio of turned down men to turned down women is pretty high married or not. When it comes down to it many people will make an exception if the married person is attractive and personable. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. There are quite a few married men on here who are extremely popular both on the forums and as far as getting meets goes. I can't say they've never been turned down but I suspect the ratio of turned down men to turned down women is pretty high married or not. When it comes down to it many people will make an exception if the married person is attractive and personable. " | |||
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"I've been on here a while now and never been turned down by a guy because I'm married. When I first joined I used to get a lot of shitty messages....from women!! If there's an attraction I think the majority of men would be happy to meet regardless of the woman's marital status. In some respects it's safer for them in that they know where they stand with each other from the word go." I do find it amusing that your personal status, becomes a bench Mark for judging you as an overall person . Sending you crappy emails? Some people carry so much anger. | |||
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"If you were approached by a woman on here you found to be very physically attractive, ticked your boxes and was clearly into you from the off. She makes clear that she wants to have casual sex but just before meeting let's you know she's cheating. Would you guys go through with it? Do us men have as much of a problem with this as many women seem to?" I ask myself would i want someone to do it to me. If the answers no then i wouldn't do it. In this instance hell no. Cheating is cheating. End of. | |||
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"I've been on here a while now and never been turned down by a guy because I'm married. When I first joined I used to get a lot of shitty messages....from women!! If there's an attraction I think the majority of men would be happy to meet regardless of the woman's marital status. In some respects it's safer for them in that they know where they stand with each other from the word go." Lots of guys who are after nsa casual sex find the scenario more attractive, much less likely that she'll start to put any other pressures on him other than sex. | |||
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"I've been on here a while now and never been turned down by a guy because I'm married. When I first joined I used to get a lot of shitty messages....from women!! If there's an attraction I think the majority of men would be happy to meet regardless of the woman's marital status. In some respects it's safer for them in that they know where they stand with each other from the word go." I'm yet to hear of or from a woman on here who genuinely offered it out and the only reason she was turned down was because she was cheating. Who knows, maybe there are some outliers. | |||
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"I (mrs) play solo and wear my wedding ring and have yet been turned down " Erm but that's with hubby's consent so that isn't cheating. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. " I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. | |||
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"I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. " Or they could simply have integrity? | |||
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"My completely un evidenced view is that most men would fuck a woman who was attached if they fancied her and though there was little chance of her partner finding out. I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. " ‘Most’, what’s that as a percentage ?! | |||
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"My completely un evidenced view is that most men would fuck a woman who was attached if they fancied her and though there was little chance of her partner finding out. I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. " Does this site have a "vote" function anywhere as it would be interesting to see what came back from it. Personally speaking, fucking a married/attached woman isn't for me (and I've had offers from friends/acquaintances in the past) but I've no doubt I'm in a minority. I also CBA lying on here in order to get into someone's knickers. I'll call a spade a spade and I've got too much self-respect to blow smoke up someone's arse in order to get my dick wet. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. " That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) | |||
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"I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. Or they could simply have integrity?" The people who are posting saying they wouldn't may well be telling the truth and the people who would are keeping a discrete silence. | |||
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"My completely un evidenced view is that most men would fuck a woman who was attached if they fancied her and though there was little chance of her partner finding out. I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. " A sensible conclusion. | |||
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"I think for both sexes it depends when it's disclosed too. I've known a few women who swore they would never meet a cheater but have because they have gotten to know them and the urge to meet is so strong. I think men are more likely to continue talking to a woman who is open from the start whereas a lot more women would cut contact completely. " Why do you think that is? | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. " That's interesting. Does that theory apply to everything or just sexual acts? | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. That's interesting. Does that theory apply to everything or just sexual acts? " It doesn't apply to everything. I wouldn't try to argue that it's less bad for a man to murder than a woman because he has more testosterone. | |||
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"I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. Or they could simply have integrity?" We're yet to hear from a cheating woman who has been turned down. I'm sure there might be one who comes along....dont hold your breath though! | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. " Brilliant! | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. That's interesting. Does that theory apply to everything or just sexual acts? It doesn't apply to everything. I wouldn't try to argue that it's less bad for a man to murder than a woman because he has more testosterone. " So is it worse for a woman to commit a sex crime than a man given she has less testosterone? | |||
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"I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. Or they could simply have integrity? The people who are posting saying they wouldn't may well be telling the truth and the people who would are keeping a discrete silence. " I can only answer for myself and the answer to the original question is no. I personally couldn't, whether that's the right, wrong, or popular answer is irrelevant really as it is my honest answer. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant!" I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women." Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. | |||
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"I also think most men, on a public forum where they want to attract women, will say they wouldn't do it as they think most women won't approve. Or they could simply have integrity? The people who are posting saying they wouldn't may well be telling the truth and the people who would are keeping a discrete silence. I can only answer for myself and the answer to the original question is no. I personally couldn't, whether that's the right, wrong, or popular answer is irrelevant really as it is my honest answer. " That's good for you. I wouldn't want you to think I'm questioning your integrity.....or social conditioning. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. That's interesting. Does that theory apply to everything or just sexual acts? It doesn't apply to everything. I wouldn't try to argue that it's less bad for a man to murder than a woman because he has more testosterone. So is it worse for a woman to commit a sex crime than a man given she has less testosterone? " I can't think of a sex crime a woman could commit on me that i wouldn't enjoy. Maybe it depends if she is attractive or not? | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!)" No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. " I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin." We're better at controlling ourselves if we've recently ejaculated | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin." His point is that all morality is relative and socially conditioned and that in some periods and in some societies a woman posting nudie pics would be viewed as morally worse than a man fucking a willing married woman. Obviously in the UK in 2018 not many people think that. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust." Half of married couples have sex less than 10 times a year... | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin." Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. " Don't they say women cheat to leave relationships whilst men cheat to try maintaining them | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust." You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part | |||
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"You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part" Wow! I'd love to know what you think does play a part | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part" Some but not as much as many claim though. Opportunity is the biggest reason men actually go through with cheating in my opinion. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part Some but not as much as many claim though. Opportunity is the biggest reason men actually go through with cheating in my opinion." That and maybe because it's forbidden fruit? | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part Some but not as much as many claim though. Opportunity is the biggest reason men actually go through with cheating in my opinion. That and maybe because it's forbidden fruit? " Why are so many people attracted to forbidden fruit? | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals?" No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part Some but not as much as many claim though. Opportunity is the biggest reason men actually go through with cheating in my opinion. That and maybe because it's forbidden fruit? Why are so many people attracted to forbidden fruit? " No idea, I could understand jammie dodgers and Yorkshire tea though! | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong." It should be compulsory! I thought swingers were free thinkers. I don’t like the word cheat / cheaters. If we were attracted to each other then no morals involved. I can’t believe that a French swingers (Libertines) site would ever have this debate. | |||
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"Men and women are biologically different. They behave differently and on average, cheat for different reasons. Therefore, to demand the application of the same standards just because it's the same act, is entirely consequentialist and i think an intentionalist perspective should also be factored in. Brilliant! I would suggest that some women act more like the majority of men and some men like the majority of women. Some do, but we're talking about averages and groups. On average women will cheat for emotional reasons and men will cheat for reasons of lust / sexual frustration. I think very little with regards to men is to do with sexual frustration, more is opportunity and lust. You dont think sexual frustration for men plays any part Some but not as much as many claim though. Opportunity is the biggest reason men actually go through with cheating in my opinion." So is that saying men have little to no self control? Even if they were having sex 10 times a day in the perfect marriage,they would still sleep with whoever threw themselves at their feet. Im not convinced personally. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong." Of course you don't, I don't either but you must see that others do. Surely? | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong. It should be compulsory! I thought swingers were free thinkers. I don’t like the word cheat / cheaters. If we were attracted to each other then no morals involved. I can’t believe that a French swingers (Libertines) site would ever have this debate." Why don't you like the word cheat/cheaters? If someone is having sex without a partners consent then they are cheaters. What do you call them? Do you believe if people are on here they should be free thinking and have sex with a cheat? | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong. It should be compulsory! I thought swingers were free thinkers. I don’t like the word cheat / cheaters. If we were attracted to each other then no morals involved. I can’t believe that a French swingers (Libertines) site would ever have this debate. Why don't you like the word cheat/cheaters? If someone is having sex without a partners consent then they are cheaters. What do you call them? Do you believe if people are on here they should be free thinking and have sex with a cheat?" Call me what you like hunny | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong. It should be compulsory! I thought swingers were free thinkers. I don’t like the word cheat / cheaters. If we were attracted to each other then no morals involved. I can’t believe that a French swingers (Libertines) site would ever have this debate. Why don't you like the word cheat/cheaters? If someone is having sex without a partners consent then they are cheaters. What do you call them? Do you believe if people are on here they should be free thinking and have sex with a cheat?" I can understand the partner involved classing it as cheating if they find out as its personal to them. For others to judge just seems harsh to me. Its nothing new of course and will always occur. I prefer ‘lovers’. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Morals? Morals are just a generally accepted code of conduct or standard of behaviour. For many outside of this scene it would be extremely immoral to put naked pictures of oneself up on the public internet. We're not talking about that though are we,we're talking about whether a man would meet a cheating woman. You brought up morals, in fairness to you morals always come up in some way or other when this type of subject is debated. Over a third of marriages in what we call the vanilla world has at least one partner who admits to having cheated. It's fair to assume many would never admit it! No where near that many people would put naked pictures of themselves up on the public internet. Which is closer to being the actual 'standard of behaviour'. People seem to reach for 'morals' only when it suits them. I don't agree we're talking a completely different set of morals. Me taking my top of on here is hurting no-one,me screwing a married man behind his wife's back has the potential to crucify her. That old selective morals chestnut, reminds me of Christians who supported slavery back in the day. Taking your top off on here has the potential to inspire some men to cheat. That's one of the arguments some extreme conservatives have against porn. I don't expect you to agree but at least you should consider acknowledging that you're basing your argument on selective morals that suit you. Your behaviour on here would be deemed immoral by the overwhelming majority on the planet. (Don't let it bother you though, mine would too!) No still don't agree and your second paragraph insinuates men are feeble little creatures that can't control themselves. I better put my photo's away incase I'm attacked,but it wouldn't be the man's fault it would be mine for showing some skin. Some people blame the mini skirt for male sexual assault, fact. It's just an example of selective morals. I'm not asking you to agree with the wider point, but can't you see that you are being selective in your morals? No. I don't think getting my kit off on a sex site is morally wrong. It should be compulsory! I thought swingers were free thinkers. I don’t like the word cheat / cheaters. If we were attracted to each other then no morals involved. I can’t believe that a French swingers (Libertines) site would ever have this debate." If everyone is a free thinker than everyone would be telling their partners they want to have sex with other people, in which case there is no cheating involved. If people are on here behind their partners back then they are not free thinkers. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. " Maybe your female friends read peoples profiles and don't bother messaging them when they say they won't meet cheats whereas most guys don't give a fuck and spam out a message regardless of what the profile says. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. Maybe your female friends read peoples profiles and don't bother messaging them when they say they won't meet cheats whereas most guys don't give a fuck and spam out a message regardless of what the profile says." This is a very good point I have that I don't meet people playing away on my profile and still get winks and messages from married men.Most haven't read it ,but some have and still try . Same as it's usually a married man who starts a moaning thread about not getting meets ,rarely seen a women start one. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. Maybe your female friends read peoples profiles and don't bother messaging them when they say they won't meet cheats whereas most guys don't give a fuck and spam out a message regardless of what the profile says. This is a very good point I have that I don't meet people playing away on my profile and still get winks and messages from married men.Most haven't read it ,but some have and still try . Same as it's usually a married man who starts a moaning thread about not getting meets ,rarely seen a women start one." Are you two really suggesting female cheats are better in some way than male cheats? C'mon, get real. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. Maybe your female friends read peoples profiles and don't bother messaging them when they say they won't meet cheats whereas most guys don't give a fuck and spam out a message regardless of what the profile says. This is a very good point I have that I don't meet people playing away on my profile and still get winks and messages from married men.Most haven't read it ,but some have and still try . Same as it's usually a married man who starts a moaning thread about not getting meets ,rarely seen a women start one. Are you two really suggesting female cheats are better in some way than male cheats? C'mon, get real." Not better no Just go about things differently maybe. A cheat is a cheat regardless of sex.If I was bi sexual ,iwouldn't meet a married woman either However some married men do badger women who don't want to meet them,do will get turned down alot. | |||
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"I respect the responses on this thread but question whether they are representative of the truth for the majority on wider Fab. The fact is that there are lots of cheating women openly and very successfully meeting. I have two good single female friends who are openly cheating on here, neither has EVER been turned down. My experience and theirs is not consistent with the thread responses. Maybe your female friends read peoples profiles and don't bother messaging them when they say they won't meet cheats whereas most guys don't give a fuck and spam out a message regardless of what the profile says. This is a very good point I have that I don't meet people playing away on my profile and still get winks and messages from married men.Most haven't read it ,but some have and still try . Same as it's usually a married man who starts a moaning thread about not getting meets ,rarely seen a women start one. Are you two really suggesting female cheats are better in some way than male cheats? C'mon, get real." Where did I say that? I said that cheating women are less likely to be turned down by people who won't meet cheaters because they read the profile first and don't bother sending the message in the first place. We get lots of messages from lots of different people but we've never had a message from a married female looking to play with us. On the other hand, we get loads of messages from Fabsingle guys (and Fabstraight guys too) that have blatantly ignored what we've written in our profile, or just not bothered to read it in the first place. | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here." Haha Yes, until it's offered to them on a plate, an erect penis has no conscience so they say | |||
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"It's good to see some have morals on here. Haha Yes, until it's offered to them on a plate, an erect penis has no conscience so they say" That's not always the case though as it's me (LB) that made the no cheats rule as P would fuck anyone she found attractive whether they're married or not. | |||
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"It depends on the circumstances. I lost my virginity to a girl who was truly cheating, in the sense that her boyfriend would have been angry/upset if he found out. I was too young / stupid / selfish to say ‘no’. But these days, I wouldn’t want to do that. I have met women that are still technically married, but the relationship is over. That doesn’t feel like they are truly cheating." Generally, I think men have less of an issue with it than women or couples. If you read threads about men cheating despite their marriage being technically over, you will see much stronger negative responses | |||
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"I think if I was married and openly declared to men that I was playing around behind my husbands back I think I'd still have guys wanting to have sex with me. I just can't see a situation where I was going to meet a guy, having his cock and my hand and then saying by the way I'm married and he doesn't know about this, but will you still fuck me? Don't know how many men would pull their pants back up and leave. " I know how many would - none. | |||
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