FabSwingers.com forum: Tommy Robinson

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is anyone going to the Tommy Robson March tomorrow in London if you'd like to meet up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it ‘throw a tomato at a racist’ day already?

Yay

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Is it ‘throw a tomato at a racist’ day already?

Yay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooo another filter thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Marching in support of a criminal? I'll pass on that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

I do like a filter thread.

May I ask what you will be marching for exactly OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't even spell his imaginary made up name right...sums this lot up perfectly

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I thought it was more about us speaking for free speech and trying to stop grooming Gangs of young girls being groomed and sold with some people so ignorant so be it Emily Parkhurst was a criminal she went to prison that she gave you women free speech think of that won't girls

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Is anyone going to the Tommy Robson March tomorrow in London if you'd like to meet up"

what for.... march for someone who pleaded guilty to contempt of court... was explictly told by the judge after escaping jailtime for that one not to do the same thing again...... only to go and to the same thing again and plead guilty to that!!!!!

so unless its the idiots march... i think i'll skip!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought it was more about us speaking for free speech and trying to stop grooming Gangs of young girls being groomed and sold with some people so ignorant so be it Emily Parkhurst was a criminal she went to prison that she gave you women free speech think of that won't girls

It's really not tho is it, it's a chance for sad, mis-informed racists to all congregate and feel somehow important. You're not, and neither is Stephen.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

That's 'Pankhurst '

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's really not tho is it, it's a chance for sad, mis-informed racists to all congregate and feel somehow important. You're not, and neither is Stephen. "

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

Yes they're so similar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

"Tommy Robinson" broke the law. Nothing to do with freedom of speech. There were reporting restrictions in place to protect the case against these serious criminals so that justice could be fairly served for the victims. His actions could have lead to the offenders walking free.

Do you really believe he was doing this to get justice for the victims?

What support has he offered the victims and their families?

There is no space for "Tommy Robinsons" in decent society. He is a fascist thug and deserves to be in prison, again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, you’re ok thanks.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

You're equating Robinson with Pankhurst? OK.

This is really about not enough reporting of his arrest. Furore over the fact that not much could be reported until the case was determined.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought it was more about us speaking for free speech and trying to stop grooming Gangs of young girls being groomed and sold"

Obv no Non muslims groom or dabble.

Once you sort out the establishment let’s talk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Irish and should dislike Tommy but have watched a tonne of his videos and don't. Where is he racist? Do people known the difference between racism and sectarianism? And even at that I wouldnt call him sectarian. There's a huge problem in Britain with abuse of women and children. It's not all from a certain minority group but it's fairly disproportionate considering the numbers of this minority group.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

Now if the case had collapsed then how do you think the victims would have felt about the lord saviour tommy then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are loads of good reasons for going to London tomorrow but marching for Tommy R isn't one of them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

Now if the case had collapsed then how do you think the victims would have felt about the lord saviour tommy then? "
the trial was over and they were waiting to be committed for sentencing and nobody in the court should be looking at press anyway he was wrongfully arrested

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

Now if the case had collapsed then how do you think the victims would have felt about the lord saviour tommy then? the trial was over and they were waiting to be committed for sentencing and nobody in the court should be looking at press anyway he was wrongfully arrested

No, he wasn’t.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"I'm Irish and should dislike Tommy but have watched a tonne of his videos and don't. Where is he racist? Do people known the difference between racism and sectarianism? And even at that I wouldnt call him sectarian. There's a huge problem in Britain with abuse of women and children. It's not all from a certain minority group but it's fairly disproportionate considering the numbers of this minority group. "

There is a huge problem with abuse of women and children, you're right.

I wonder why 'Tommy' only concentrates on the ones abused by that minority group?

It's almost as if he doesn't give a fuck about the women and kids or something...

Or maybe, I dunno, it's better to be abused by 'one of ours' than 'one of theirs'?

"He may be a predator, but at least he's *our* predator" or something?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Have a look at one of the things he was standing up with 3 boys for justice and then tell me he's having a go

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

Now if the case had collapsed then how do you think the victims would have felt about the lord saviour tommy then? "

What was the court case that he tried to report on ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have a look at one of the things he was standing up with 3 boys for justice and then tell me he's having a go"

His sole aim is to be devisive and the country doesn't need such groups st the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The free speech you talk of put a trial in jeopardy of collapse due to information being leaked which people are under orders not to divulge and if so you would be breaking the law.

No, he wasn’t."

So you're saying he didn't break the law even though he had been told numerous times that if he did 'report' on the matter then he would be breaking the law, he wasn't arrested lawfully when he disobeyed a court order?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It is already there and they're now trying to start up there own courts which is against our constitution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper"
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Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I reckon he broke the law on purpose just to raise his group's profile.

He's a prick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?"

Christ almighty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I reckon he broke the law on purpose just to raise his group's profile.

He's a prick."

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

I don't agree with his views, his politics or the way he tries to stir people up. The stupid bugger has pushed his luck once too often. Clumsy jeopardizing of court cases through pig headed bravado has rightfully landed him in prison for breaking the law.

All that free speech stuff that's been pedaled by his followers is crap.

I guess this tells you I wouldn't march for this gobbin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is already there and they're now trying to start up there own courts which is against our constitution"

Who is this you are speaking of? One can only assume you are talking for the entire muslim population of great britain yes?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?"

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Egyptian cotton 1200 percale pillow cases are too nice to cut eyeholes in. I’ll pass.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"It is already there and they're now trying to start up there own courts which is against our constitution"

riiiiight...... and your evidence of this is?????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My Egyptian cotton 1200 percale pillow cases are too nice to cut eyeholes in. I’ll pass."

excellent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahahaha are you marching to keep him inside longer?? The only thing to do with him worth marching for!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?"
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There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"It is already there and they're now trying to start up there own courts which is against our constitution"

Own courts?

Against our Constitution?

Please explain?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily"

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

97% of those reported in the media..which tries to imply that 97% of Pakistanis are paedophiles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......"

St George with his dragon they most likely see him as

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robinson knew exactly what he was doing and pleaded guilty at the first opportunity to get martyrdom. His followers are too stupid to question why he shouts he's innocent until in the dock when he's guilty are being the cowardly little shit he is well known to be is shitting the thought of a longer sentence than necessary. And then his followers confirm there stupidity by donating to hus legal fees.

At least Golding and Jensen had the balls to plead not guilty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course it's more likely that the perpetrators were racist as 98% of they're victims were white despite the fact that less than 50% of the local population to the area were white!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......

St George with his dragon they most likely see him as

Saint George was a foreigner, I doubt Tommy’s lot would have been that keen on him!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Robinson knew exactly what he was doing and pleaded guilty at the first opportunity to get martyrdom. His followers are too stupid to question why he shouts he's innocent until in the dock when he's guilty are being the cowardly little shit he is well known to be is shitting the thought of a longer sentence than necessary. And then his followers confirm there stupidity by donating to hus legal fees.

At least Golding and Jensen had the balls to plead not guilty.

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Nice story bro

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

97% of those reported in the media..which tries to imply that 97% of Pakistanis are paedophiles."
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Correlation or causation, it's hard to say

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

And has he ever given a shit about cases of abuse (of which there are far too many to choose from) where there were not any perpetrators that were Muslim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?"

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......"
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Mother Teresa was an evil bitch, Gandhi was a Prevert pedophile and Dr king was.... I'll give you that one,a very nice guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone going to the Tommy Robson March tomorrow in London if you'd like to meet up"

No, you are okay mate. I’ll watch you on tele

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Of course it's more likely that the perpetrators were racist as 98% of they're victims were white despite the fact that less than 50% of the local population to the area were white!."

..a alternative view is that the victims were targetted because they were vulnerable, which in no way excuses the perpetrators but I'm guessing few of the victims were the daughters of white doctors or solicitors.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Of course it's more likely that the perpetrators were racist as 98% of they're victims were white despite the fact that less than 50% of the local population to the area were white!."

That's not the issue at hand here.

Nobody is defending them and in fact would rather see nothing (including the self-professed 'defender of free speech') get in the way of them receiving justice

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By *wingfellowMan
over a year ago

my own little sanctuary

The only thing I can take away from the entire story is that the justice system is far too soft. Nobody from any trial was handed a sentence that is sufficient enough. If anyone is marching for anything it should be to have stricter sentences, we have drivers killing people and ruining lots of lives in just one moment and they’ll get like 2/3 years if they behave... the problems not who’s behind bars, the problem is that they’ll be out before you could finish a degree. Can take away someone’s mother and you’d be out quicker than their child could finish a degree or college etc. where’s the logic in that? Don’t march for a criminal, start a petition and do it for something productive. Not someone who will be doing the same dumb shit soon after he is released.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

Freudian slip

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......

St George with his dragon they most likely see him as

Born in (what is now) Turkey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl"

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......

St George with his dragon they most likely see him as

Born in (what is now) Turkey?

Was it modern Turkey or Syria? I’m not 100% sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

And has he ever given a shit about cases of abuse (of which there are far too many to choose from) where there were not any perpetrators that were Muslim?"
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Unlike everybody else on here, I don't know Mr Robbinsons personal thoughts on whether he gives a shit about abuse cases, however it's probably true he's done more to highlight the vile crimes than most others.

I don't see a problem of anybody at all highlighting the vile crimes of grooming gangs!.

You seem happy to keep it quiet, which is your own business

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

But it's okay - I've heard young girls don't mind being abused - as long as it's not by a foreigner.

If it's one of our boys, they just lie back and think of England

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”"
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He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”.

He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?"

No. He created a monster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course it's more likely that the perpetrators were racist as 98% of they're victims were white despite the fact that less than 50% of the local population to the area were white!.

So your saying only white girls are vulnerable?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is anyone going to the Tommy Robson March tomorrow in London if you'd like to meet up

No, you are okay mate. I’ll watch you on tele

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there is a news blackout on it so I doubt you will

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”.

He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?

No. He created a monster."
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So did Mohammed but I don't hear you spouting vitriol about him?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

At least Golding and Jensen had the balls to plead not guilty.

Nice story bro"

what part is factually incorrect....

he was charged with the same offence twice... and has pleaded guilty to the same offence twice!!

and in summing up of the 1st case, that judge explicitly told him not to do the same thing again....

so unless the defense he want to mount is "amnesia"..... i think it is a stretch to feel guilty for the idiot...

if the sign says wet paint on a bench... and you sit on it... and paint ends up on your clothes.... you have no one to blame but yourself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is anyone going to the Tommy Robson March tomorrow in London if you'd like to meet up

No, you are okay mate. I’ll watch you on tele

there is a news blackout on it so I doubt you will"

How many members do you have in your group left btw?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course it's more likely that the perpetrators were racist as 98% of they're victims were white despite the fact that less than 50% of the local population to the area were white!.

I would say they targeted non Muslim women. I don't care about religion but I don't hate it. I judge people individually but I do see stats stacked against the Asian community in this particular crime (grooming). I also see a huge anti British sentiment within the British born Asian community which could be down to how they're treated daily but there's a us vs them feel to it when really they should all be one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

And has he ever given a shit about cases of abuse (of which there are far too many to choose from) where there were not any perpetrators that were Muslim?.

I don't see a problem of anybody at all highlighting the vile crimes of grooming gangs!.

You seem happy to keep it quiet, which is your own business"

Well that's a leap of imagination...I'm happy to keep it quiet because I don't want to march for 'Tommy'?

To co-op the parlance of the day:

Bro - do you even logic?

He doesn't achieve a thing by "highlighting vile crimes" other than causing discord and division, which causes further problems down the line.

The problem that so many people (yourself included evidently, if your thought process led you to the conclusion that I support paedophiles) seem to have, is an abject lack of nuance or the ability to comprehend circumstance unless it is distilled down into a simplistic and facile narrative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?"
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Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?"

Haha good question!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

And has he ever given a shit about cases of abuse (of which there are far too many to choose from) where there were not any perpetrators that were Muslim?.

I don't see a problem of anybody at all highlighting the vile crimes of grooming gangs!.

You seem happy to keep it quiet, which is your own business

Well that's a leap of imagination...I'm happy to keep it quiet because I don't want to march for 'Tommy'?

To co-op the parlance of the day:

Bro - do you even logic?

He doesn't achieve a thing by "highlighting vile crimes" other than causing discord and division, which causes further problems down the line.

So your for highlighting grooming gangs then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

I don't know much about them. But they were the 6 lads falsely sent to jail weren't they?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

Maybe if he concentrated more on who is doing the abusing and why and less on the colour of their skin or religion more people would back him up,

Its not like I want to read or hear stories of abuse but the media need to report it a lot more and nationally instead of the daily crap about soaps/reality tv shows etc,

If these beasts see that you are named and shamed all over the country and put away for a very long time they might keep it a fantasy instead of doing it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl"

There was also the time he told a girl on Twitter she was "quite fit for a Muslim". She turned out to be fifteen years old, obvs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

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I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve said this before and I’ll say this again, Anjum Choudhary and Tommy Robinson needs to get a room at travel lodge together and settle their differences so “normal people” can go about their life in peace and criminals to jail

Hope this helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know"

Why are you marching then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

There was also the time he told a girl on Twitter she was "quite fit for a Muslim". She turned out to be fifteen years old, obvs. "

Does this mean his supporters believe that Muslim girls aren’t fit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?.

There was some white people involved in quite a few of the grooming gang cases although 97% were Pakistani.

And has he ever given a shit about cases of abuse (of which there are far too many to choose from) where there were not any perpetrators that were Muslim?.

I don't see a problem of anybody at all highlighting the vile crimes of grooming gangs!.

You seem happy to keep it quiet, which is your own business"

How does live streaming outside a trial highlight anything?

Paedophile hunters (for all the concerns their are about them) have done far more than the EDL could ever dream of when it comes to vigilante actions and protecting children from paedophiles.

He highlights nothing. Absolutely nothing. Just turns up at court cases causing trouble

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”.

He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?

No. He created a monster..

So did Mohammed but I don't hear you spouting vitriol about him?"

You don't seem to be complaining about Jesus either?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know"

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Also, his actions almost lead to a retrial which would have cost 100s of thousands of pounds and could have increased the chance of the guilty suspects being released (If they was guilty that is. I'm not sure on the results of that trial)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”.

He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?

No. He created a monster..

So did Mohammed but I don't hear you spouting vitriol about him?"

What a childish answer, we’re discussing one person here, Tommy Robinson. We’re not here to discuss personal religious views, or prophets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

Why are you marching then? "

Because there's a load of other sheeple doing it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Who pays for these cases?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Who pays for these cases?"

Everybody who works

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's highlighting hundreds and hundreds of men who've got thousands and thousands of victims that they've groomed, drugged, pimped out and turned into modern day sex slaves!... All of which was quietly brushed under the carpet for decades by everybody from the police to the local council to social services.

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Who pays for these cases?

Everybody who works"

This makes me sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

There was also the time he told a girl on Twitter she was "quite fit for a Muslim". She turned out to be fifteen years old, obvs.

Does this mean his supporters believe that Muslim girls aren’t fit?

I think that's the implication, yes. Not sure how that squares with their oft-repeated (and flimsy as hell) defence of "It's a religion, not a race"...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

False equivalency, Emmeline Pankhurst wasn’t fuelling racial hatred for monetary gain, or to get her head in the paper.

Can you give me some evidence of his racism?

Can you produce one example of him advocating for the victims of abuse when the perpetrators were white?

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

Yes, Leigh McMillan

“The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks, but clearly Robinson doesn’t condemn them”.

He left the EDL six years ago due to racism in its ranks.

That's a good thing that he stood up for and called out don't you think?

No. He created a monster..

So did Mohammed but I don't hear you spouting vitriol about him?

What a childish answer, we’re discussing one person here, Tommy Robinson. We’re not here to discuss personal religious views, or prophets. "
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That could be the problem then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Who pays for these cases?

Everybody who works

This makes me sad

What makes me sad is all these people who are marching think Tommy Robinson should have some sort of immunity.

He broke the law, he went to jail, get over it

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

i think you'll find the birmingham six pleaded not guilty at their trial.....

but nice try.........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know"

On a basic level, standing outside court, live streaming and abusing the accused and asking them did they do it is contempt of court.

But even if it is complicated law (and I'm not convinced it is, it's fairly simple not to interfere or try and influence the outcome of an ongoing courtcase) the judge explicitly told Robinson when he got his suspended sentence what not to do unless he wanted to get sent down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He broke the law, then went to jail.

What is there to march about?.

Good job you didn't attend any of the Birmingham Six's march's then hey?

Answer the question please

I'm not an expert on contempt of court cases, I'm lead to believe it's a complicated specialist branch in its own right.

Is there mistrials of justice? Yes, is this one! I don't know

No it's not a mistrial. He got a suspended sentence for doing it once. Then he did it again. Now he's in jail.

Who pays for these cases?

Everybody who works

This makes me sad

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It should do.

The judge actually said it didn't bring the case close to a retrial

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By *heffmMan
over a year ago

sheffield

is he going sing 2 4 6 8 motorway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robinson is surprisingly quiet about the recent conviction of a prominent EDL member who got 17 years for abusing a school girl

There was also the time he told a girl on Twitter she was "quite fit for a Muslim". She turned out to be fifteen years old, obvs.

Does this mean his supporters believe that Muslim girls aren’t fit?

I think that's the implication, yes. Not sure how that squares with their oft-repeated (and flimsy as hell) defence of "It's a religion, not a race"..."

Stop my brain has turned into yogurt

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

So your for highlighting grooming gangs then?"

Who the fuck isn't?

This is such a pointless question, asked so dishonestly, as if to infer that anyone that doesn't support 'Tommy' is by default a supporter or at least an enabler of grooming gangs.

What about Kincora? The North Wales scandals? Jersey? All examples of systemic, institutionalised abuse stretching over decades and implicating some of the most prominent local and national politicians, topped off with a blatant cover up and evidence that was 'accidentally destroyed' by the government.

Why isn't 'Tommy' bitching about that? Why aren't you?

Sounds to me like you don't mind turning a blind eye to a bit of kiddy-fiddling if I'm honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He's highlighting hundreds and hundreds of men who've got thousands and thousands of victims that they've groomed, drugged, pimped out and turned into modern day sex slaves!... All of which was quietly brushed under the carpet for decades by everybody from the police to the local council to social services.

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say"

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say"
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Still this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say.

Still this

He's highlighting people who are already in court

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To answer your questions...No and no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?"
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Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahhhhh is that this weekend??? I’d have loved to go along and march, but I’m too busy being a decent human being

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though."
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Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though..

Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?"

What’s Quilliam?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it"

You're sure that him stirring up a load of shit and creating further tensions is gonna make things better?

Okay, just explain that one then if you don't mind...break it down exactly how this is going to prevent further cases happening in the future?

While you're there, how are you gonna tackle the institutionalised abuse of kids in care homes and the alleged paedophile rings that exist in some of the highest echelons in government?

How comes you're not marching for David Icke?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say.

Still this

He's highlighting people who are already in court

Maybe robinson's followers don't get their news from any other source than EDL and BF facebook feed's?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Majiid nawaz and ed Hussain are racist bigots!!.

You learn something new on here everyday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though..

Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?"

I assume you’re about to try to argue that the EDL or PEGIDA aren’t racist organisations?

Enough. Life is too short for me to argue with moron. Other people can and I can chuckle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of interest why did Stephen Yaxeley-Lennon adopt the name of a local football hooligan? Is he that desperate to appear hard he stole someone else's reputation?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

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By *wingfellowMan
over a year ago

my own little sanctuary

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though."

I just don’t understand why people think that any form of truth can solely be found in one place. Research is a wonderful thing, blind obedience isn’t wisdom. Quite the opposite in fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's 'Pankhurst '

It’s also Emmeline, not Emily

i was awaiting the comparison to Gandhi and MLK

I hear he is up for sainthood right after mother teresa......

St George with his dragon they most likely see him as

Saint George was a foreigner, I doubt Tommy’s lot would have been that keen on him!"

My world has been shattered

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talking sense into Tommy Robinson’s fans is like telling people there is no God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it

You're sure that him stirring up a load of shit and creating further tensions is gonna make things better?

Okay, just explain that one then if you don't mind...break it down exactly how this is going to prevent further cases happening in the future?

While you're there, how are you gonna tackle the institutionalised abuse of kids in care homes and the alleged paedophile rings that exist in some of the highest echelons in government?

How comes you're not marching for David Icke?"
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Firstly I'm not marching and never said I was.

Secondly I don't know anything about alleged crackpot conspiracies in government like you obviously do, so why don't you tell everyone instead?.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

He did fuck all wrong just ask the victims and there famalies if they think he was in the wrong to bring it to the attention of the world because i dont think the media were broadcasting much about the trial And as for the judge well they would be best putting a clown in charge of it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He did fuck all wrong just ask the victims and there famalies if they think he was in the wrong to bring it to the attention of the world because i dont think the media were broadcasting much about the trial And as for the judge well they would be best putting a clown in charge of it all "

Thanks for coming. Lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it

You're sure that him stirring up a load of shit and creating further tensions is gonna make things better?

Okay, just explain that one then if you don't mind...break it down exactly how this is going to prevent further cases happening in the future?

While you're there, how are you gonna tackle the institutionalised abuse of kids in care homes and the alleged paedophile rings that exist in some of the highest echelons in government?

How comes you're not marching for David Icke?.

Firstly I'm not marching and never said I was.

Secondly I don't know anything about alleged crackpot conspiracies in government like you obviously do, so why don't you tell everyone instead?.

What so only the OP is going? What a waste.. how can 1 man march??!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contempt of court is a crime

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By *wingfellowMan
over a year ago

my own little sanctuary

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it"

So why isn't Robinson highlighting all paedophile gang rings. Where was he standing and shouting when some of the biggest celebrity names were being dragged through the courts, and rightly so for some of them. Oh yeah cause they were "White"

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Is it just me that finds it slightly ironic that the people who position themselves as the 'defenders of England' often have the loosest grasp of English?

I mean c'mon - if you're gonna live here at least learn the fucking language

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Other than ignore the laws of the land. Which is ironic as he gets so angry when others do the same.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Firstly I'm not marching and never said I was.

Secondly I don't know anything about alleged crackpot conspiracies in government like you obviously do, so why don't you tell everyone instead?.

Not seeing much about how it's gonna make things better...

How? By what mechanism?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though..

Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?

I assume you’re about to try to argue that the EDL or PEGIDA aren’t racist organisations?

Enough. Life is too short for me to argue with moron. Other people can and I can chuckle."
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Apart from he's never been a member of pegida and he resigned from the EDL six years saying it had underlying racist elements!.

He was of course a member of the quilliam Foundation which is a left of centre think tank started by two very brave and intellectually intelligent men nawaz and Hussain who both prominently talk about the problems of Pakistani men and grooming gangs!.

Your right though, life is too short for arguing with idiots who obviously have no fucking clue about anything except what they've clearly read in a newspaper.

So I'll bid you adieu

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

Other than ignore the laws of the land. Which is ironic as he gets so angry when others do the same.

And I'm sure the victims and families would have been well impressed if offenders had got off cause of his stupidity

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it

No because the f****** BBC were there showing everyone that was doing ok for them to do it when all the celebrities were being prosecuted the reason he's been picked on them because all the Grooming gangs the got away for it in Rotherham for 30 years that is just one town

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

He breached his bail. Is he allowed to act outside of the law? How can you expect change when you act outside of the law you have a problem with? There are ways a man should conduct himself. That is not the way, you take the proper route. Yes it’s longer but you have to be the change you want to see in the world. So if you want the laws to work better you have to act within them yourself."
like I said ask the victims if they agree with the judge it’s up to robinson if he chose to ignore his bail conditions for me I think he did the correct thing for once but that’s my opinion yes a lot will argue the toss about affecting the outcome but if they guilty then justice will be done on another point how come other big cases don’t get bans put on them example Ian Huntley and other monsters like him ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contempt of court is a crime

Bang on the money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though..

Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?

I assume you’re about to try to argue that the EDL or PEGIDA aren’t racist organisations?

Enough. Life is too short for me to argue with moron. Other people can and I can chuckle..

Apart from he's never been a member of pegida and he resigned from the EDL six years saying it had underlying racist elements!.

Your right though, life is too short for arguing with idiots who obviously have no fucking clue about anything except what they've clearly read in a newspaper.

So I'll bid you adieu

Who cares if they’re “left of centre” if their main beef is with “packistani” anything. That makes them bigots by definition.

Next.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

See my earlier post. How is highlighting anything? These people have been arrested, charged and are being tried? What did Robinson do that exactly?.

Every case from Rotherham onwards was described as a one off!.

There's since been dozens and dozens of cases.

I'm sure there's more out there, if highlighting it stops more of it (and I'm sure it will) I'm all for it

I don't know maybe it was because they weren't a gang but individuals?.

Maybe there's a difference between grooming gangs and how and why they operate and lone individuals?.

Maybe highlighting the size and scale of the problem in Pakistani culture is how you solve the problem from inside it's own community no longer being able to turn a blind eye to it?.

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"on another point how come other big cases don’t get bans put on them example Ian Huntley and other monsters like him ?"

Because nobody decided to hijack the Ian Huntley case to further their own nefarious agenda against caretakers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He breached his bail. Is he allowed to act outside of the law? How can you expect change when you act outside of the law you have a problem with? There are ways a man should conduct himself. That is not the way, you take the proper route. Yes it’s longer but you have to be the change you want to see in the world. So if you want the laws to work better you have to act within them yourself.like I said ask the victims if they agree with the judge it’s up to robinson if he chose to ignore his bail conditions for me I think he did the correct thing for once but that’s my opinion yes a lot will argue the toss about affecting the outcome but if they guilty then justice will be done on another point how come other big cases don’t get bans put on them example Ian Huntley and other monsters like him ?"

You keep saying ask the victims as though you have a statement from them saying they support this idiots actions. Do you??

I also love how you say if they’re guilty then justice will be done. Well that’s exactly what’s happened here. “Tommy” is guilty of contempt of court, plead guilty, and justice has been done.

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By *hocolate37Man
over a year ago

Heathrow

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

...what a shame then, that he's not yet commented or acted on this?? https://www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/english-defence-league-activist-from-milton-keynes-jailed-for-sexually-abusing-10-year-old-girl-1-8395579

What's that saying about removing the plank in your eye before taking the speck out of someone else's??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is amazingly funny read.

Arguing with racists is funny and can be fulfilling, but it’s ultimately pointless. Anyone who supports Tommy Robinson, or any of his various bigoted organisations is beyond reasoning with.

The image of a load of people showing up to boo and shout at the OP is kinda funny though..

Which organisations are his?.

I mean he was a member of quilliam for awhile, is that the racist bigoted organisation you mean?

I assume you’re about to try to argue that the EDL or PEGIDA aren’t racist organisations?

Enough. Life is too short for me to argue with moron. Other people can and I can chuckle..

Apart from he's never been a member of pegida and he resigned from the EDL six years saying it had underlying racist elements!.

Your right though, life is too short for arguing with idiots who obviously have no fucking clue about anything except what they've clearly read in a newspaper.

So I'll bid you adieu

Who cares if they’re “left of centre” if their main beef is with “packistani” anything. That makes them bigots by definition.

Next."
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You were definitely right about one thing.

You should have gone before you made yourself look even more stupid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

What's that saying about removing the plank in your eye before taking the speck out of someone else's??"
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How do you know he hasn't?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

I don't know maybe it was because they weren't a gang but individuals?.

Maybe there's a difference between grooming gangs and how and why they operate and lone individuals?.

Maybe highlighting the size and scale of the problem in Pakistani culture is how you solve the problem from inside it's own community no longer being able to turn a blind eye to it?.

Yeah, because you know what's gonna be super-effective at getting people from within the community to feel like they can come forward and speak openly about this stuff?

That's right! Making them feel completely ostracised and unwelcome, and making huge sweeping generalisations about their entire religion being a bunch of paedophiles - that's bound to ease the tensions and bridge the gaps.

I'm sure they'll all be rushing to come forward...

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

IF it was a march about whether cases should be subject to media blackouts in the first place many on the whime of one judge (or someone higher) then I would be marching. For TR maybe not.

Most seem to be missing a point here, which is why is there a press blackout in the first place? There have been plenty of child abuse, grooming, pedaphile cases up to now where no such restrictions were applied.

Why now? "For the girls protection". Really? Young girls & women have been in courts behind screens & via video links & kept out of the press even when the press have been interested for sometime in British courts in sexual cases so why is this one any different?

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over a year ago

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By *hocolate37Man
over a year ago

Heathrow

I'm no particular fan of his but...More power to him I say

What's that saying about removing the plank in your eye before taking the speck out of someone else's??.

How do you know he hasn't?"

This happened back in February while he was still out...the silence has been deafening...but I'm happy to bow to your superior Google searching skills to prove me wrong, as I've not found anything?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"IF it was a march about whether cases should be subject to media blackouts in the first place many on the whime of one judge (or someone higher) then I would be marching. For TR maybe not.

There is more than one trial taking place (mainly due to the number of defendants) and not at the same time. Making the details public on one trial before another has concluded/taken place could influence the jury in the latter case - this could compromise the case, leading to a mis-trial, potentially leading to guilty people going free.

Not a conspiracy, just due process ensuring a fair trial is given to all.

Once all trials have concluded the reporting restrictions will be lifted.

Ok? Understand now?

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"IF it was a march about whether cases should be subject to media blackouts in the first place many on the whime of one judge (or someone higher) then I would be marching. For TR maybe not.

Because there is and always will be a racial element to it.

There was most likely a racial element to how the abusers picked their targets, and there are undoubtedly those who will use the case to further their own agenda of promoting division and hatred.

Whilst there is probably a valid argument as to the efficacy of the measure, and it's worth asking the question whether it actually makes things worse because it can be misinterpreted, from the point of view of "keeping the peace" it's understandable

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By *rNaughtyNickMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Keep an eye out, they've got that 'iraqi law' in london and those 'muslamic rayguns'

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By *riefcase_WankerMan
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Keep an eye out, they've got that 'iraqi law' in london and those 'muslamic rayguns'"

Says the chap from Birmingham where there are "No go areas" for the coppers around the mosques...

(If you believe Katie Hopkins that is)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a number of issues however:

a) as noted, he was charged with contempt of court, essentially invoking a suspended sentence from a previous incident where he had specifically been given, and accepted, very clear guidelines around his future conduct.

b) the media black out was largely due to the ongoing nature of the case involved. It’s relatively common when cases are going on that may be linked to other ongoing prosecutions that coverage of the case in its entirety, or segments, is withheld or restricted. It’s generally deemed in the public interest. Postponement orders are far more common that we would think and have very sound justification for their need.

c) as such it wasn’t that this media don’t care, or sharia law is taking over or anything else that might have been spouted. There is a process that needs to be adhered to and due process takes time in order to ensure that the case will not held deemed a mis trial. Thankfully in this instance justice was served

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We look forward to hosting all 7 of you this weekend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We look forward to hosting all 7 of you this weekend. "

As many as 7?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We look forward to hosting all 7 of you this weekend.

As many as 7?

I was including security staff

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We look forward to hosting all 7 of you this weekend.

As many as 7?

I was including security staff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We look forward to hosting all 7 of you this weekend.

As many as 7?

I was including security staff

Not to mention the PSCO to oversee, the reporter, the TV cameraman, the Journo' and the Pap' photographer just in case the OP does something silly.

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS
over a year ago

Plymouth

Faith restored in fab forums lol

OP Don't think you're getting a meet sunshine...

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

There are a number of issues however:

but why the ban on this particular case when other equally horrendous crimes are committed and no ban is enforced recently up in Sunderland a similar crime was committed by Muslims and nothing printed but around about the same time in the same area a white peadophile was up at court and guess what he was plastered all over the news papers I just can’t get my head around that and what makes one ok to print and the other not

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

He breached his bail. Is he allowed to act outside of the law? How can you expect change when you act outside of the law you have a problem with? There are ways a man should conduct himself. That is not the way, you take the proper route. Yes it’s longer but you have to be the change you want to see in the world. So if you want the laws to work better you have to act within them yourself.like I said ask the victims if they agree with the judge it’s up to robinson if he chose to ignore his bail conditions for me I think he did the correct thing for once but that’s my opinion yes a lot will argue the toss about affecting the outcome but if they guilty then justice will be done on another point how come other big cases don’t get bans put on them example Ian Huntley and other monsters like him ?

You keep saying ask the victims as though you have a statement from them saying they support this idiots actions. Do you??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not about the severity of the car, it’s often about the interdepencies on other cases, links to other ongoing or upcoming prosecutions so on and so forth. Rapists are not being protected. Steps are being taken to ensure that the attempt to secure a prosecution is as successful as possible and isnt jeopardised for Facebook live views or Twitter retweets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s not about the severity of the car, it’s often about the interdepencies on other cases, links to other ongoing or upcoming prosecutions so on and so forth. Rapists are not being protected. Steps are being taken to ensure that the attempt to secure a prosecution is as successful as possible and isnt jeopardised for Facebook live views or Twitter retweets

Case* not car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This comment made me straight out laugh.

You have just proven that the intelligence level of a Tommy Robinson follower is low.

The reason the "media weren't broadcasting a lot about the trial" is because they weren't allowed, and if they did, they risked going to jail, just like Tommy Robinson has

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

don’t worry mate I’m not the spelling or grammar police

Case* not car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"IF it was a march about whether cases should be subject to media blackouts in the first place many on the whime of one judge (or someone higher) then I would be marching. For TR maybe not.

I suspect the media blackout is because of Idiots like Robinson amd the more right wing mainstream media who's reporting could be deemed to bias the outcome amd lead to an appeal to an appeal of an unfair trial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How long is he going to be in Jail for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"IF it was a march about whether cases should be subject to media blackouts in the first place many on the whime of one judge (or someone higher) then I would be marching. For TR maybe not.

I think it’s because there was more than one trial taking place as more than one perpetrator was involved.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

This comment made me straight out laugh.

You have just proven that the intelligence level of a Tommy Robinson follower is low.

The reason the "media weren't broadcasting a lot about the trial" is because they weren't allowed, and if they did, they risked going to jail, just like Tommy Robinson has"
you will have to ask his followers about there intelligence pal but your probably correct in there iq incidentally what’s iq I suppose your a brain surgeon or work for NASA talk about stereotypeing people just curios who did you vote for ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No point arguing with idiots because first they bring you at their level and then they beat you with experience.

BananaMan.

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By *ust ClareTV/TS
over a year ago

Settlewick!

I was hoping this was another RIP thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" He did fuck all wrong just ask the victims and there famalies if they think he was in the wrong to bring it to the attention of the world because i dont think the media were broadcasting much about the trial And as for the judge well they would be best putting a clown in charge of it all

This comment made me straight out laugh.

You have just proven that the intelligence level of a Tommy Robinson follower is low.

The reason the "media weren't broadcasting a lot about the trial" is because they weren't allowed, and if they did, they risked going to jail, just like Tommy Robinson has"

you will have to ask his followers about there intelligence pal but your probably correct in there iq incidentally what’s iq I suppose your a brain surgeon or work for NASA talk about stereotypeing people just curios who did you vote for ??? "

And again

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