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"Oooh spooky... I just applied for my EHIC online and the option came up and I registered... litterally 2 minutes ago" It really does only take 2 minutes doesn't it! Well done you- big hug xx | |||
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"I live in wales.. Everyone in wales is on it, unless they ask not to be" I thought this was the case in England too! Well done. Not for living in Wales-well Wales is full of lovely people anyway, but for knowing your stuff! | |||
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"When you registered did you not get a little card to put in wallet/purse ? I know I did when I did it " They are sending one but you can download them as scrensavers now so they show up on your phone etc. Remember too to talk to your family about it x | |||
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"Are you on it? Do you know for sure? I have just taxed my car online and the option came up so I signed up. I kind of assumed I already was actually- I thought you had to opt out! My sister received twin corneal grafts over 30 years ago and is currently waiting for another, as they are failing so it's a subject close to my heart. Thoughts, experiences, opinions? " Thanks for the nudge, we spoke of this a few weeks ago and never followed it up, just did it online | |||
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"I live in wales.. Everyone in wales is on it, unless they ask not to be" Ive always carried a donor card until recently. By informed choice I choose to be on the donor register. However once it became presumed consent, I have now removed that choice and am no longer on the donor register. sorry that wont be changing while its mandatory opt in only | |||
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"I live in wales.. Everyone in wales is on it, unless they ask not to be Ive always carried a donor card until recently. By informed choice I choose to be on the donor register. However once it became presumed consent, I have now removed that choice and am no longer on the donor register. sorry that wont be changing while its mandatory opt in only " i dont quite get what you mean? do you live in wales? | |||
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"I live in wales.. Everyone in wales is on it, unless they ask not to be I thought this was the case in England too! Well done. Not for living in Wales-well Wales is full of lovely people anyway, but for knowing your stuff!" I was always on it anyway, via my boots advantage card | |||
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" i dont quite get what you mean? do you live in wales?" No I dont live in wales but it is coming into the rest of the uk pretty soon ive only recorded my request down at the doctors for the moment of opt out once mandatory opt in came into effect. | |||
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"Not that i know of Surley u have to opt in first before you can opt out" Nope. Don't think so. They are going to opt everyone in I hear. If you don't opt out you have no say. | |||
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" i dont quite get what you mean? do you live in wales? No I dont live in wales but it is coming into the rest of the uk pretty soon ive only recorded my request down at the doctors for the moment of opt out once mandatory opt in came into effect." i still dont get it im afraid...whats the objection if you were carrying a donor card in the first place? | |||
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"I feel very strongly about organ donation and believe that if you're willing to accept a donation, you should be willing to give a donation. " i agree..and i don't think family members should be able to override thise wishes either.. | |||
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"I feel very strongly about organ donation and believe that if you're willing to accept a donation, you should be willing to give a donation. i agree..and i don't think family members should be able to override thise wishes either.." Definitely | |||
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" i still dont get it im afraid...whats the objection if you were carrying a donor card in the first place?" Its simpley having a choice if you want to donate or not. Why should your informed choice be removed from you, when your an adult and well able to make that choice. | |||
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" i still dont get it im afraid...whats the objection if you were carrying a donor card in the first place? Its simpley having a choice if you want to donate or not. Why should your informed choice be removed from you, when your an adult and well able to make that choice. " thats why i dont understand what you mean...how is consent removed if its up to you to decide to opt out? i really dont see why you would want to have a donor card, then get rid of it because they are trying to make more people available to donate? makes no sense to me...maybe im just misunderstanding you. | |||
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"thats why i dont understand what you mean...how is consent removed if its up to you to decide to opt out? i really dont see why you would want to have a donor card, then get rid of it because they are trying to make more people available to donate? makes no sense to me...maybe im just misunderstanding you." so why does it have to be youve got to register that you have to opt out to have it be removed ? no change would have been better in the first place so why change it to everyone has to be opted into the donor register | |||
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"I’ve been on it since I was 18. My cousin died in her 30s and donated everything as her brother had required a liver transplant but sadly it failed. So a subject very close. I used to think only life saving organs when I was younger so not corneas. But imagine helping someone to SEE!? What an amazing gift. So they can have everything they want from me and wow betide anyone who tries to stop them take it! " Mr here, apparently eyes have the biggest shortage, since I have been told that my eyes are one of my best features, why wouldnt I want them to live on. All extention of life is amazing, but you're right, a change of life for somebody to see what we take for granted would be something special. | |||
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"I’ve been on it since I was 18. My cousin died in her 30s and donated everything as her brother had required a liver transplant but sadly it failed. So a subject very close. I used to think only life saving organs when I was younger so not corneas. But imagine helping someone to SEE!? What an amazing gift. So they can have everything they want from me and wow betide anyone who tries to stop them take it! Mr here, apparently eyes have the biggest shortage, since I have been told that my eyes are one of my best features, why wouldnt I want them to live on. All extention of life is amazing, but you're right, a change of life for somebody to see what we take for granted would be something special. " If it wasn't for corneal donations my sister would have been blind for 30 years x | |||
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"I’ve been on it since I was 18. My cousin died in her 30s and donated everything as her brother had required a liver transplant but sadly it failed. So a subject very close. I used to think only life saving organs when I was younger so not corneas. But imagine helping someone to SEE!? What an amazing gift. So they can have everything they want from me and wow betide anyone who tries to stop them take it! Mr here, apparently eyes have the biggest shortage, since I have been told that my eyes are one of my best features, why wouldnt I want them to live on. All extention of life is amazing, but you're right, a change of life for somebody to see what we take for granted would be something special. If it wasn't for corneal donations my sister would have been blind for 30 years x" Wow. That’s just amazing - right there. How can anyone refuse. You’re dead? It brought such pleasure and comfort to know who’d received my cousins organs. Amazing to hear. | |||
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"Yep. They can have anything that works. Keep trying to give them blood but as I have sex with bi men, won't take it " I can’t any more since having a transfusion. Crazy! | |||
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"I’ve been on it since I was 18. My cousin died in her 30s and donated everything as her brother had required a liver transplant but sadly it failed. So a subject very close. I used to think only life saving organs when I was younger so not corneas. But imagine helping someone to SEE!? What an amazing gift. So they can have everything they want from me and wow betide anyone who tries to stop them take it! Mr here, apparently eyes have the biggest shortage, since I have been told that my eyes are one of my best features, why wouldnt I want them to live on. All extention of life is amazing, but you're right, a change of life for somebody to see what we take for granted would be something special. If it wasn't for corneal donations my sister would have been blind for 30 years x" WOW, that is fantastic to hear, good out adversity. Does make the process of donations of parts an experience that hopefully those left behind will understand that some good comes from my demise once it happens, more comfortable for them to comprehend it's what I want. | |||
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"thats why i dont understand what you mean...how is consent removed if its up to you to decide to opt out? i really dont see why you would want to have a donor card, then get rid of it because they are trying to make more people available to donate? makes no sense to me...maybe im just misunderstanding you. so why does it have to be youve got to register that you have to opt out to have it be removed ? no change would have been better in the first place so why change it to everyone has to be opted into the donor register" isn't that obvious? there is a shortage... so clearly anything that helps get more donors can only be a good thing. | |||
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"thats why i dont understand what you mean...how is consent removed if its up to you to decide to opt out? i really dont see why you would want to have a donor card, then get rid of it because they are trying to make more people available to donate? makes no sense to me...maybe im just misunderstanding you. so why does it have to be youve got to register that you have to opt out to have it be removed ? no change would have been better in the first place so why change it to everyone has to be opted into the donor register isn't that obvious? there is a shortage... so clearly anything that helps get more donors can only be a good thing." I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! | |||
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"thats why i dont understand what you mean...how is consent removed if its up to you to decide to opt out? i really dont see why you would want to have a donor card, then get rid of it because they are trying to make more people available to donate? makes no sense to me...maybe im just misunderstanding you. so why does it have to be youve got to register that you have to opt out to have it be removed ? no change would have been better in the first place so why change it to everyone has to be opted into the donor register isn't that obvious? there is a shortage... so clearly anything that helps get more donors can only be a good thing. I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! " yes, you see, thats what i thought...then i thought 'surely im just being thick?', because that would be utterly incomprehensible behaviour.. | |||
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"I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! yes, you see, thats what i thought...then i thought 'surely im just being thick?', because that would be utterly incomprehensible behaviour.." Once we start ‘assuming’ what people want, we’re already part way down a very slippery slope. It soon becomes an assumption of authority to decide what people ought to want. As if that were not enough, the people “who do not wish to donate” are implicitly derogated as a “minority”. ( I’ve noticed before that when people want to foist otherwise untenable notions on others, they often use the ‘minority’ idea as an argument. It’stypical, I’ve found, of such people to assume that the majority is always right; which is something no intelligent and honest person would ever claim! ) | |||
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"I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! yes, you see, thats what i thought...then i thought 'surely im just being thick?', because that would be utterly incomprehensible behaviour.. Once we start ‘assuming’ what people want, we’re already part way down a very slippery slope. It soon becomes an assumption of authority to decide what people ought to want. As if that were not enough, the people “who do not wish to donate” are implicitly derogated as a “minority”. ( I’ve noticed before that when people want to foist otherwise untenable notions on others, they often use the ‘minority’ idea as an argument. It’stypical, I’ve found, of such people to assume that the majority is always right; which is something no intelligent and honest person would ever claim! )" i think you have to pick your battles. i certainly never assume something is right becasue the majority say so...often the opposite, thats a ridiculous assumption. Donor issues are different from some purely political agenda. At no point has anyone suggested the choice is made for someone else; it's the complete opposite! everyone should be responsible for making their own decision, and if they really don't agree with it, but really can't be asesed to fill in a form to ensure their wishes are followed, then, well that's their look out. I see the need for donated organs to save lives as more important than the possible wishes of someone who coulndt be bothered to tell anyone while knowing the consequences. | |||
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"I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! yes, you see, thats what i thought...then i thought 'surely im just being thick?', because that would be utterly incomprehensible behaviour.. Once we start ‘assuming’ what people want, we’re already part way down a very slippery slope. It soon becomes an assumption of authority to decide what people ought to want. As if that were not enough, the people “who do not wish to donate” are implicitly derogated as a “minority”. ( I’ve noticed before that when people want to foist otherwise untenable notions on others, they often use the ‘minority’ idea as an argument. It’stypical, I’ve found, of such people to assume that the majority is always right; which is something no intelligent and honest person would ever claim! )" Do you not think that you're just being abit petty? What if you donating could save numerous people's lives? How about if it was one of your loved ones that needed a donor but couldn't get a match because that match had decided to stick a finger up at the system like you? Do you really believe that you opting out will make any positive difference at all to anything? | |||
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"I think he’s refusing to be a donor out of principle. By refusing to help desperately ill & dying people when he was prepared to before, he’s showing the NHS / Government that that can’t just make assumptions. That’ll learn ‘em! yes, you see, thats what i thought...then i thought 'surely im just being thick?', because that would be utterly incomprehensible behaviour.. Once we start ‘assuming’ what people want, we’re already part way down a very slippery slope. It soon becomes an assumption of authority to decide what people ought to want. As if that were not enough, the people “who do not wish to donate” are implicitly derogated as a “minority”. ( I’ve noticed before that when people want to foist otherwise untenable notions on others, they often use the ‘minority’ idea as an argument. It’stypical, I’ve found, of such people to assume that the majority is always right; which is something no intelligent and honest person would ever claim! )" Sign the form to opt out. | |||
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