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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Journalist assassin

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

I had to google him......holy crap, I thought it was a photo of a younger Billy Bob Thornton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant."

As in he showed her up totally, it was amateur hour.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant."

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though"

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style. "

Maybe you missed the thread where we established that mansplaining is what feminists accuse men of when they are getting wrecked.

There's another bloodbath with BBC moron Anne McElvoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The left wing mainstream media can't cope with him because he uses logic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style.

Maybe you missed the thread where we established that mansplaining is what feminists accuse men of when they are getting wrecked.

There's another bloodbath with BBC moron Anne McElvoy"

Ok, I’ll check it out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style.

Maybe you missed the thread where we established that mansplaining is what feminists accuse men of when they are getting wrecked.

There's another bloodbath with BBC moron Anne McElvoy"

I'm sure there are many more. Just plonk him in front of any pompous self righteous lefty and it's a car crash in waiting. And I say that as a lefty

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Other than wrecking marxists, he does have some highly intelligent material that's worth watching. His bible series is incredible and he filled four hours with sam harris just discussing what truth is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style.

Maybe you missed the thread where we established that mansplaining is what feminists accuse men of when they are getting wrecked.

There's another bloodbath with BBC moron Anne McElvoy

I'm sure there are many more. Just plonk him in front of any pompous self righteous lefty and it's a car crash in waiting. And I say that as a lefty"

I think we need people like him to call people out on there bullshit.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

I think he was mansplaining a bit though

He just exposed her agenda driven interview style.

Maybe you missed the thread where we established that mansplaining is what feminists accuse men of when they are getting wrecked.

There's another bloodbath with BBC moron Anne McElvoy

I'm sure there are many more. Just plonk him in front of any pompous self righteous lefty and it's a car crash in waiting. And I say that as a lefty"

It's best to watch him on Joe Rogan. Joe is a bit of a lefty but doesn't have an agenda to push so they actually exchange information.

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By *ellowyellowXMan
over a year ago

cardiff

Nice that he stays so calm despite the hostility he faces on every tv /radio appearance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recommend watching the ContraPoints video on him. It's insightful!

https://youtu.be/4LqZdkkBDas

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate"

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

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over a year ago


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him. "

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me"

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world. "

Agreed. I listen to his podcasts but when he speaks of economics you can just tell he's saying what someone else has told him

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world.

Agreed. I listen to his podcasts but when he speaks of economics you can just tell he's saying what someone else has told him "

He's good on issues where the debate can be confined to a structure. But i prefer Peterson because he's not afraid to go into a completely unstructured area. The first 2 hours of his 'truth' debate weren't exactly gripping to listen to, but it showed an intellectual honesty that ben and others don't show. Then he had the balls to go back and do it again with Sam for another 2 hours. I can't imagine Cathy Newman wanting a round 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world.

Agreed. I listen to his podcasts but when he speaks of economics you can just tell he's saying what someone else has told him

He's good on issues where the debate can be confined to a structure. But i prefer Peterson because he's not afraid to go into a completely unstructured area. The first 2 hours of his 'truth' debate weren't exactly gripping to listen to, but it showed an intellectual honesty that ben and others don't show. Then he had the balls to go back and do it again with Sam for another 2 hours. I can't imagine Cathy Newman wanting a round 2 "

She made herself look like a complete tool and he was just chill as fuck throughout it.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world.

Agreed. I listen to his podcasts but when he speaks of economics you can just tell he's saying what someone else has told him

He's good on issues where the debate can be confined to a structure. But i prefer Peterson because he's not afraid to go into a completely unstructured area. The first 2 hours of his 'truth' debate weren't exactly gripping to listen to, but it showed an intellectual honesty that ben and others don't show. Then he had the balls to go back and do it again with Sam for another 2 hours. I can't imagine Cathy Newman wanting a round 2

She made herself look like a complete tool and he was just chill as fuck throughout it."

So you're saying she did well then?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Jordan Peterson who posits ideas of 'enforced monogamy' and thinks casual sex is so awful it might require 'state tyranny' to combat it?

Not sure he'd be a fan of swinging types.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Him and Ben Shipiro are brilliant to watch in a debate.

People say they might be knobs or controversial, but they always have there facts straight before entering a debate

Ben's a good debater but actually he's factually off plenty of times, especially when he talks economics. Lefties can beat him because they go at him with emotions rather than facts. Peterson isn't the fierce debater that ben is, but he's intellectually on another level to him.

Agree with you about the Ben on the economics part. But on other subjects he can be sharp and incredibly quick.

I prefer Peterson's debates because I again, agree he's smarter than Ben, but he's just not as charismatic for me

Ben is like Steven Crowder in the sense that he's thought through all the types of responses you'd get and generally stays 2 or 3 points ahead of who he is talking to. I don't think they could hang with someone like Steven Pinker or Sam Harris and have a genuine conversation. Ben is smart and quick, he's basically what you'd expect from a lawyer who can debate well. But his actual knowledge of business / economics reeks of textbooks and he'd actually be easy to expose if he debated a lefty who'd actually run a business or lived in the real world.

Agreed. I listen to his podcasts but when he speaks of economics you can just tell he's saying what someone else has told him

He's good on issues where the debate can be confined to a structure. But i prefer Peterson because he's not afraid to go into a completely unstructured area. The first 2 hours of his 'truth' debate weren't exactly gripping to listen to, but it showed an intellectual honesty that ben and others don't show. Then he had the balls to go back and do it again with Sam for another 2 hours. I can't imagine Cathy Newman wanting a round 2

She made herself look like a complete tool and he was just chill as fuck throughout it.

So you're saying she did well then? "

I think she got his point across very well

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Jordan Peterson who posits ideas of 'enforced monogamy' and thinks casual sex is so awful it might require 'state tyranny' to combat it?

Not sure he'd be a fan of swinging types."

Thanks. I was going to say this thread needs some cold water pouring over it. But was hoping someone else would do it for me

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Jordan Peterson who posits ideas of 'enforced monogamy' and thinks casual sex is so awful it might require 'state tyranny' to combat it?

Not sure he'd be a fan of swinging types.

Thanks. I was going to say this thread needs some cold water pouring over it. But was hoping someone else would do it for me "

Hardly cold water. I know what he thinks about swinging. Doesn't change my opinion of him or the factual accuracy of what he says.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

He's a bit of a macho blow hard whose conservative views sometimes sound uncannily like the pickup artist bs I've been watching. He seems quite into men being men and women being women.

Although it's interesting to finally have a half decent foil to argue against (hence why he's so popular), I'm still dubious about him. And that, I guess, is the attraction

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

In a debate about political correctness with him and Stephen Fry, he got quickly bogged down in accusations (and apparently wasn't being honest about nasty things he'd actually been heard saying)... whilst Fry shined

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"He's a bit of a macho blow hard whose conservative views sometimes sound uncannily like the pickup artist bs I've been watching. He seems quite into men being men and women being women.

Although it's interesting to finally have a half decent foil to argue against (hence why he's so popular), I'm still dubious about him. And that, I guess, is the attraction "

Not really. He's saying that the majority of men are going to be happier with their lives if they act like men and same for women. He's a clinical psychologist who helps some women at the top of traditionally masculine jobs, he doesn't try to tell them to go home and be women. He's just saying that the average woman is unlikely to be happy with that lifestyle. It's incorrect to infer that there's anything wrong with the women that are.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"In a debate about political correctness with him and Stephen Fry, he got quickly bogged down in accusations (and apparently wasn't being honest about nasty things he'd actually been heard saying)... whilst Fry shined "

That's lefty 'debating' 101 when you're losing. Hurl as many names as possible and hope some stick. I know the one you are referring to. It's one that people will watch and see what they want to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's a bit of a macho blow hard whose conservative views sometimes sound uncannily like the pickup artist bs I've been watching. He seems quite into men being men and women being women.

Although it's interesting to finally have a half decent foil to argue against (hence why he's so popular), I'm still dubious about him. And that, I guess, is the attraction

Not really. He's saying that the majority of men are going to be happier with their lives if they act like men and same for women. He's a clinical psychologist who helps some women at the top of traditionally masculine jobs, he doesn't try to tell them to go home and be women. He's just saying that the average woman is unlikely to be happy with that lifestyle. It's incorrect to infer that there's anything wrong with the women that are."

I'm starting to think he just created this thread to wait for someone who likes him then argue with them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I found his argument with Sam Harris interesting (as it was novel) but weak. Ironically, he's a bit of a godsend to atheists in that sense... interesting but not challenging.

I think now he's quickly becoming a vacuous goto person for Jordan Peterson impersonations. It happens to even the best intellectuals. And slowly a fascistic Neitschian undertone lurks evermore in the background.

Interesting geezer... but very dubious

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"He's a bit of a macho blow hard whose conservative views sometimes sound uncannily like the pickup artist bs I've been watching. He seems quite into men being men and women being women.

Although it's interesting to finally have a half decent foil to argue against (hence why he's so popular), I'm still dubious about him. And that, I guess, is the attraction

Not really. He's saying that the majority of men are going to be happier with their lives if they act like men and same for women. He's a clinical psychologist who helps some women at the top of traditionally masculine jobs, he doesn't try to tell them to go home and be women. He's just saying that the average woman is unlikely to be happy with that lifestyle. It's incorrect to infer that there's anything wrong with the women that are.

I'm starting to think he just created this thread to wait for someone who likes him then argue with them "

Petersons views are quite nuanced. A lot of people take a while to get their head around what statistics really mean. It's like if you say 5% of people are gay, most people actually process that as "people are 5% gay" because being in the 5% implies your doing something wrong! Peterson is nearly always talking about averages, not individuals.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm starting to think he just created this thread to wait for someone who likes him then argue with them "

I was hoping for a more balanced reaction. I'm only filling in for the leftys, women and trans Fabbers whilst they go off and see what they think of him

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I found his argument with Sam Harris interesting (as it was novel) but weak. Ironically, he's a bit of a godsend to atheists in that sense... interesting but not challenging.

I think now he's quickly becoming a vacuous goto person for Jordan Peterson impersonations. It happens to even the best intellectuals. And slowly a fascistic Neitschian undertone lurks evermore in the background.

Interesting geezer... but very dubious "

He criticises both the left and right for their failure to have a coherent strategy of utilising people in society with IQs below 80. Hardly Neitschian.

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By *eKoopleCouple
over a year ago

Germany / Manchester

I first learned about Dr.Peterson two years ago when you became caught up in a row over gender equality that almost cost him his job. Though I don’t possess to know everything he talks about, I’ll take the time to read more in-depth. I find his work to be extremely insightful and often practical and though he’s Clinical Psychologist, many journalists and YouTube viewers seem to forget, at worst if they ever knew.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant."

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like him, wish we could have him as policy advisor here in the UK

Nice that he points out the equality movement was a good cause but it's ignored/ leaving behind young men at a worrying rate

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over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*"

What does this mean caps lock guy ?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*

What does this mean caps lock guy ?"

Watch the Cathy Newman interview, we wouldn't want to spoil such an epic put down for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*

What does this mean caps lock guy ?

Just how you see her brain do the old windows XP Bluescreen of death irl

Watch the Cathy Newman interview, we wouldn't want to spoil such an epic put down for you"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*

What does this mean caps lock guy ?

Watch the Cathy Newman interview, we wouldn't want to spoil such an epic put down for you"

Oh, I’ve seen it. I know what he’s talking about now.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Both I think, I’ve been watching a lot of his stuff on you tube. The Kathy Newman interview was brilliant.

GOTCHA

*AIRHORNS*

What does this mean caps lock guy ?

Watch the Cathy Newman interview, we wouldn't want to spoil such an epic put down for you

Oh, I’ve seen it. I know what he’s talking about now. "

Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since. "

I hope that's true

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since.

I hope that's true "

It definately might be true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since.

I hope that's true

It definately might be true"

Sort yourself Oats...

Go tidy your damn room.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since.

I hope that's true

It definately might be true

Sort yourself Oats...

Go tidy your damn room."

So you're saying that i should go outside a join a random protest?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Little known alternative fact, during the live broadcast of the interview - the words "finish her" flashed across the screen but have been removed from the footage since.

I hope that's true

It definately might be true

Sort yourself Oats...

Go tidy your damn room.

So you're saying that i should go outside a join a random protest? "

No I'm saying we should structure our society by the way of the lobsters.

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