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"First of all you need a good liquid liner, with a felt pen type tip. I use one by Stila x" Ok, thanks. I have a soft pencil one maybe that's part of my problem. | |||
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"Do you drink a lot?  "I rarely drink so I don't even have that as an excuse | |||
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I rarely drink so I don't even have that as an excuse "And I've just got the joke  | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless "I've watched YouTube videos too.  .
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I've watched YouTube videos too. .
I'm sure I saw one that you could just stamp on but I can't have because it would only work on one eye ."I’ve seen the stamps too! I’m sure you can buy stencils, swear I’ve seen them in primark. My eyes are different shaped, so I can get one eye semi-okay, and the other is a train wreck! | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I've watched YouTube videos too. .
I'm sure I saw one that you could just stamp on but I can't have because it would only work on one eye .
I’ve seen the stamps too! I’m sure you can buy stencils, swear I’ve seen them in primark. My eyes are different shaped, so I can get one eye semi-okay, and the other is a train wreck! "Hmm we can't both have imagined it .
I'll have a search later.
I need to be a bit careful because thick eyeliner on an older face can look harsh so I want to be able to do a very fine line. | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day "I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips? | |||
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"Keep practicing! And I also recommend Kat Von Ds eyeliner " Ok, thanks. Practice it is then. | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?"Do you have shaped eyebrows? I used to draw small lines along my eyelid from the inner corner to the arch of my brow where I take the line up a bit, then back down and flick it out in line with the end of my brow. It’s second nature now, it takes me seconds but it took me years to practise. Or if you’re more confident with a pencil, draw it with a pencil first and then go over it with liquid | |||
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"Any advice for getting a perfect flick on eyeliner? I'm really rubbish at it. Thanks "Get the pen one and look on utube for tricks. X | |||
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"Also what you may think doesn’t look perfect, no one else will notice so I usually just wing it "Thanks | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?"Do you have heavy eyelids? I do and I can't have a flick. | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?
Do you have shaped eyebrows? I used to draw small lines along my eyelid from the inner corner to the arch of my brow where I take the line up a bit, then back down and flick it out in line with the end of my brow. It’s second nature now, it takes me seconds but it took me years to practise. Or if you’re more confident with a pencil, draw it with a pencil first and then go over it with liquid "My eyebrows aren't very shaped due to the seventies habit of plucking them into a thin line. I'll try and follow your instructions though, thank you. | |||
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"Any advice for getting a perfect flick on eyeliner? I'm really rubbish at it. Thanks
Get the pen one and look on utube for tricks. X"YouTube does seem the way to go. | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?
Do you have shaped eyebrows? I used to draw small lines along my eyelid from the inner corner to the arch of my brow where I take the line up a bit, then back down and flick it out in line with the end of my brow. It’s second nature now, it takes me seconds but it took me years to practise. Or if you’re more confident with a pencil, draw it with a pencil first and then go over it with liquid
My eyebrows aren't very shaped due to the seventies habit of plucking them into a thin line. I'll try and follow your instructions though, thank you."I did it early 2000’s but thank god they grew back! | |||
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"There's a trick I saw a woman do with a Kirby grip that gives the perfect outline for a flick. I hate those YouTube bitches who make everything look so easy." They get on my nerves a bit anyway. It takes ages to show you something that should take minutes. One of my problems might be that I get fed up and skip bits  | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?
Do you have heavy eyelids? I do and I can't have a flick."I honestly don't know maybe that's my problem. | |||
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"My 12 yr old sometimes puts a bit of sellotape on the outer corner ~ no idea where she got that, YouTube I expect!" As a guide you mean? | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?
Do you have heavy eyelids? I do and I can't have a flick.
I honestly don't know maybe that's my problem."I've tried with tutorials but come to the conclusion the flick is not for me. | |||
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"There's a trick I saw a woman do with a Kirby grip that gives the perfect outline for a flick. I hate those YouTube bitches who make everything look so easy. They get on my nerves a bit anyway. It takes ages to show you something that should take minutes. One of my problems might be that I get fed up and skip bits "I scan on to the actual demonstration. They waffle on about brushes, products and what you don't want to be doing. All I need to know is what I'm supposed to be doing. | |||
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"I recommend Rimmel exaggerate eyeliner, pen tip and easier to hold than the actual pens. I wear a liquid liner cat eye every day and it’s the easiest one I’ve found to use, and even though it’s a cheap brand it lasts all day
I've no objection to inexpensive brands. It's the practical side of it that I can't achieve, any tips?
Do you have heavy eyelids? I do and I can't have a flick.
I honestly don't know maybe that's my problem.
I've tried with tutorials but come to the conclusion the flick is not for me. "It might not be for me either but I'd like to see what a properly done one looks like. I don't want to be channelling Dusty Springfield though | |||
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"My 12 yr old sometimes puts a bit of sellotape on the outer corner ~ no idea where she got that, YouTube I expect! As a guide you mean?" Yes, for the angle of the lower line I think, not the actual flicky bit
She's very good at it, most annoying!! | |||
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"There's a trick I saw a woman do with a Kirby grip that gives the perfect outline for a flick. I hate those YouTube bitches who make everything look so easy. They get on my nerves a bit anyway. It takes ages to show you something that should take minutes. One of my problems might be that I get fed up and skip bits
I scan on to the actual demonstration. They waffle on about brushes, products and what you don't want to be doing. All I need to know is what I'm supposed to be doing.
"Precisely! Also they hold the product up and waggle it about and that annoys me. I'm not cut out for youtube lol. | |||
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"As people have said, liquid is the way forward, and practice. Do your eyes first before your foundation etc, and have loads of cotton buds to hand to help correct mistakes. " How can you do eye liner before foundation? | |||
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"There's a trick I saw a woman do with a Kirby grip that gives the perfect outline for a flick. I hate those YouTube bitches who make everything look so easy. They get on my nerves a bit anyway. It takes ages to show you something that should take minutes. One of my problems might be that I get fed up and skip bits
I scan on to the actual demonstration. They waffle on about brushes, products and what you don't want to be doing. All I need to know is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Precisely! Also they hold the product up and waggle it about and that annoys me. I'm not cut out for youtube lol."Yes! I bloody hate that lol And the whiny voices. | |||
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"Practice! I use an eyeliner and I do the flick with liquid liner "I will give it a few goes then and see how I get on. | |||
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" I. Just use a kohl pencil "Do you find it easy? | |||
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"I agree that a felt tip pen is much easier than pencil for a sharp line. I’m still a bit messy sometimes but if you keep cotton buds on hand it’s easy to fix mistakes and straighten lines up. I actually got mine tattooed on but that might be a bit extreme if you’re just trying it out lol " yes it might be. When my friend was qualifying as a beauty therapist I was her guinea pig. She got eyelash dye on my face when she was tinting them and I had to put up with it for ages until it wore off. A tattoo would be worse lol | |||
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"As people have said, liquid is the way forward, and practice. Do your eyes first before your foundation etc, and have loads of cotton buds to hand to help correct mistakes. " I never wear foundation anyway, can't bear it on my skin. If its going to involve too much trial and error I'll probably give it a miss though. | |||
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"Tits or arse? Accentuate one but not both at the same time is my philosophy. Get your liner good, just let your other features take prominence. Others look less than we do at ourselves - if they did we'd call them out for staring. Pull something that's really transfixing - your choice. " Good advice. | |||
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"There's a trick I saw a woman do with a Kirby grip that gives the perfect outline for a flick. I hate those YouTube bitches who make everything look so easy. They get on my nerves a bit anyway. It takes ages to show you something that should take minutes. One of my problems might be that I get fed up and skip bits
I scan on to the actual demonstration. They waffle on about brushes, products and what you don't want to be doing. All I need to know is what I'm supposed to be doing.
Precisely! Also they hold the product up and waggle it about and that annoys me. I'm not cut out for youtube lol.
Yes! I bloody hate that lol And the whiny voices. "Are there any older women doing stuff on there. I think it's clear by now that I'm not a YouTube expert | |||
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" I. Just use a kohl pencil
Do you find it easy?"I do actually , it ha to be quite sharp to do the flicks | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless "I saw a tips YouTube video where they used a hairgrip. They put the liquid liner on the sides of the v shape at the opening and pressed it against their eye. Then filled it in. It looked ok | |||
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" I. Just use a kohl pencil
Do you find it easy?
I do actually , it ha to be quite sharp to do the flicks "Ok, I'm going to give it a go tomorrow. If I can't get it right I'm moving on to false eyelashes...  | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I saw a tips YouTube video where they used a hairgrip.
They put the liquid liner on the sides of the v shape at the opening and pressed it against their eye. Then filled it in. It looked ok "Sounds like a good idea actually. | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I saw a tips YouTube video where they used a hairgrip.
They put the liquid liner on the sides of the v shape at the opening and pressed it against their eye. Then filled it in. It looked ok "That's the one. | |||
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maybe try a few and see what you're more comfortable with and also it sounds silly but using some form of tape to line up where you want the flick to be helps and saves on mess | |||
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I'm embarrassed that 12 yr old girls can apply make up better than I can..maybe I should You Tube make up too. | |||
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"I find that the pen tip ones don't work for me, the tip isn't very flexible, I use liquid eyeliner and find it a lot easier maybe try a few and see what you're more comfortable with and also it sounds silly but using some form of tape to line up where you want the flick to be helps and saves on mess "I might invest in a liquid eyeliner. Thank you. | |||
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"I like a slanted eyeliner brush and a pot of gel liner (maybelline do a good one). Seems more forgiving of mistakes, and flexible for line thickness. If it gets frustrating aiming for perfection, think 'sisters, not twins'" Slanted eyeliner brush! That sounds like a good idea, *adds to shopping list* | |||
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"You Tube all the way as others have said. I looked at a video tonight on how to ombré colour my daughters hair, and it actually worked out great
I'm embarrassed that 12 yr old girls can apply make up better than I can..maybe I should You Tube make up too."Saved loads of money in the process too. I watch YouTube videos on how to style hair quite a lot. I find some very useful. I pick the ones with shorter run times because I lose the will to live when five minutes in they're still waving dry shampoo and five different types of brush in my face. | |||
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"Go for a smeared look "I find that easy to achieve... | |||
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"You Tube all the way as others have said. I looked at a video tonight on how to ombré colour my daughters hair, and it actually worked out great
I'm embarrassed that 12 yr old girls can apply make up better than I can..maybe I should You Tube make up too.
Saved loads of money in the process too.
I watch YouTube videos on how to style hair quite a lot. I find some very useful. I pick the ones with shorter run times because I lose the will to live when five minutes in they're still waving dry shampoo and five different types of brush in my face. "Thank god for fast forward | |||
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"You Tube all the way as others have said. I looked at a video tonight on how to ombré colour my daughters hair, and it actually worked out great
I'm embarrassed that 12 yr old girls can apply make up better than I can..maybe I should You Tube make up too.
Saved loads of money in the process too.
I watch YouTube videos on how to style hair quite a lot. I find some very useful. I pick the ones with shorter run times because I lose the will to live when five minutes in they're still waving dry shampoo and five different types of brush in my face.
Thank god for fast forward "Haha I tend to find one side looks good the other is just a sticky mess of hairspray and Kirby grips!!! | |||
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"When are you starting to practice!? I feel very invested in this now "As I'm still drinking tea on the sofa in a robe probably later this afternoon. I only have pencils though. I'll report in. | |||
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"Foundation and powder is needed on your eyelids to stop the liner ‘slipping’ as it removes the greasiness. I prefer to do my liner before my eyeshadow. Then mistakes are easier to remove and start a fresh. I just go over the lines at the end if I want to darken them. Try using a nail file from the side of your nostril to the end of your eyebrow line - that’s the line for your flick. I find a liquid liner with a brush is best for the flick and a liquid pen for drawing across my eyelids. If it’s too harsh, gently rub dark brown eyeshadow across the line. I have days where I surrender and cry! "Oh lord! I don't own foundation or powder. It all makes my face feel clogged and sweaty . I have BB cream though I'll substitute that. | |||
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I have however just bought one of those eyeliner wing stamps from amazon that a friend recommended. Once it has arrived a shall report back! | |||
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"You Tube all the way as others have said. I looked at a video tonight on how to ombré colour my daughters hair, and it actually worked out great
I'm embarrassed that 12 yr old girls can apply make up better than I can..maybe I should You Tube make up too.
Saved loads of money in the process too.
I watch YouTube videos on how to style hair quite a lot. I find some very useful. I pick the ones with shorter run times because I lose the will to live when five minutes in they're still waving dry shampoo and five different types of brush in my face.
Thank god for fast forward
Haha I tend to find one side looks good the other is just a sticky mess of hairspray and Kirby grips!!! "My favourite is Patry Jordan. Her styles are achievable for me. | |||
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"Put this on whilst you apply the make up Crush With Eyeliner R.E.M. I know you I know you've seen her She's a sad tomato She's three miles of bad road Walking down the street Will I never meet her? She's a real woman-child Oh, my kiss breath turpentine I am smitten I'm the real thing (I'm the real thing) Have you seen her come around? My crush with eyeliner......." Well I'm definitely a sad tomato so it might help. | |||
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"I used to be able to do it, I wore eyeliner like that a lot in early twenties, I have completely lost the knack
I have however just bought one of those eyeliner wing stamps from amazon that a friend recommended. Once it has arrived a shall report back!"Early twenties You gotta be due a letter from the queen soon then | |||
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"I used to be able to do it, I wore eyeliner like that a lot in early twenties, I have completely lost the knack
I have however just bought one of those eyeliner wing stamps from amazon that a friend recommended. Once it has arrived a shall report back!"That sounds like my kind of thing. Is it coming from China? I won't expect a report for six months | |||
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"When are you starting to practice!? I feel very invested in this now "Its a nice thread  | |||
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"I used to be able to do it, I wore eyeliner like that a lot in early twenties, I have completely lost the knack
I have however just bought one of those eyeliner wing stamps from amazon that a friend recommended. Once it has arrived a shall report back!
Early twenties
You gotta be due a letter from the queen soon then "Ha ha, not quite, but it was 20 years ago and you don’t seem to retain the skill of applying liquid winged eyeliner quite like you do riding a bike | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola "Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics... | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics..."Absolutely | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I've watched YouTube videos too. .
I'm sure I saw one that you could just stamp on but I can't have because it would only work on one eye .
I’ve seen the stamps too! I’m sure you can buy stencils, swear I’ve seen them in primark. My eyes are different shaped, so I can get one eye semi-okay, and the other is a train wreck!
Hmm we can't both have imagined it .
I'll have a search later.
I need to be a bit careful because thick eyeliner on an older face can look harsh so I want to be able to do a very fine line."If you search pin-trest the stamps are on there. They come in 3 diffrent thickness too. There about 8.00 i think. Each image has a link to the site you can order from. Im bit dubiouse as eyes are all diffrent so not sure if they would look great on everyone. I have the stencils too. They are not that good tbh. I have large eyes but a small head so find the stencils too long. Pdacticly end up with the wing in my hair line ( amusing as hell if im not in a rush to get ready lol) Hope this may be useful info for you xx | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics...
Absolutely "Jeremiah Valeska has a youtube turtorial on it, just saying | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics...
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Jeremiah Valeska has a youtube turtorial on it, just saying "That's where I've been going wrong then. I was using Marilyn Mansons tutorial | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics...
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Jeremiah Valeska has a youtube turtorial on it, just saying
That's where I've been going wrong then. I was using Marilyn Mansons tutorial " | |||
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"Following this thread. My 14 year old sister does my makeup for me! She can do a double winged liner too. Says she watched YouTube videos!!! I’m hopeless
I've watched YouTube videos too. .
I'm sure I saw one that you could just stamp on but I can't have because it would only work on one eye .
I’ve seen the stamps too! I’m sure you can buy stencils, swear I’ve seen them in primark. My eyes are different shaped, so I can get one eye semi-okay, and the other is a train wreck!
Hmm we can't both have imagined it .
I'll have a search later.
I need to be a bit careful because thick eyeliner on an older face can look harsh so I want to be able to do a very fine line.
If you search pin-trest the stamps are on there. They come in 3 diffrent thickness too. There about 8.00 i think. Each image has a link to the site you can order from. Im bit dubiouse as eyes are all diffrent so not sure if they would look great on everyone. I have the stencils too. They are not that good tbh. I have large eyes but a small head so find the stencils too long. Pdacticly end up with the wing in my hair line ( amusing as hell if im not in a rush to get ready lol)
Hope this may be useful info for you xx "It is very useful, thank you | |||
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"I can do this effect on other people (my sister is always asking me to do her eye make up) but on myself.... noooooooooope .... I end up looking like a toddler has been let loose on my face with a box of crayola Hmmm is that why you don't show your eyes in pics...
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Jeremiah Valeska has a youtube turtorial on it, just saying
That's where I've been going wrong then. I was using Marilyn Mansons tutorial " | |||
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"Never mind eyeliner what about mascara lol xxx" Mascara I can do with no problem. I find it helps to hold a mirror at an angle that requires you to look up. | |||
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"Never mind eyeliner what about mascara lol xxx" Get some eyelash curlers. | |||
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"Put this on whilst you apply the make up Crush With Eyeliner R.E.M. I know you I know you've seen her She's a sad tomato She's three miles of bad road Walking down the street Will I never meet her? She's a real woman-child Oh, my kiss breath turpentine I am smitten I'm the real thing (I'm the real thing) Have you seen her come around? My crush with eyeliner....... Well I'm definitely a sad tomato so it might help. "As long as you don’t have turpentine breath | |||
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"Put this on whilst you apply the make up Crush With Eyeliner R.E.M. I know you I know you've seen her She's a sad tomato She's three miles of bad road Walking down the street Will I never meet her? She's a real woman-child Oh, my kiss breath turpentine I am smitten I'm the real thing (I'm the real thing) Have you seen her come around? My crush with eyeliner....... Well I'm definitely a sad tomato so it might help.
As long as you don’t have turpentine breath "I only drink turpentine if White Lightening isn't available... | |||
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"I haven't tried it yet. I've been up to my neck in muck and bullets in the garden. Maybe tomorrow "Gardening is much more satisfying than putting on make up. | |||
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"I haven't tried it yet. I've been up to my neck in muck and bullets in the garden. Maybe tomorrow
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