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"One of the massive disappointments about being a parent is picking kids up from school. I assumed that the wait at the school gate would be a ready-made social club of people who have at least some over-lapping interests and definately aren't virgins. The reality is that they seem to be the most socially awkward outcasts all gathered in one spot. I have some competing theories: A) Most are parents who let parenting dominant every part of their non-working lives and have lost the ability to relate to other adults and all their social skills B) They never had any social skills and had children to try and re-live their own childhood C) They have social skills but are too tried to interact with other adults D) They do interact with other adults, just not me because the raincoat and wellies puts them off." I was hoping you were going to say one of them mentioned something, something only someone in this community would trigger as being a swinger. Imagine the encounters before th school run | |||
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"We take the piss out of one of my friends because of the way she acts with her Mummy friends. She becomes a totally different person, so bitchy and showy. She doesn't let us meet them much now " Talking about parenting techniques is the quickest way to start are arguement in a group with more than 6 people, i find. | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere." How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem." To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. | |||
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"People seem to disappoint you a fair bit." Half of people are below the median. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. " Your kids probably annoy them. | |||
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"People seem to disappoint you a fair bit. Half of people are below the median. " Do you try and have a different conversation with the half that are not up to your standard,they may be thinking the same and can't wait for the kid's to appear so they can bugger off? You'd hate me I'm pretty antisocial and crap at small talk. Kid's are the one thing you have in common at the school gates so it's obvious that may be the first topic of communication. | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere. How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? " Yes, their life purely consists of their children, nothing else. They can only talk about their children, can't do anything without their children, their children are why they exist. | |||
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"I once went to a couple's house for a meet and was shocked to see that the woman was the quietest and shyest mum from the school gates. We played but she still doesn't chat to me at the gates!" Awkward | |||
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"I think eye contact between parents at our school gate is deemed unacceptable. I'm new to the area so I'm not sure what the penalty is for conversation." Just go in saying isn't life fab, what a fabulous day it is and is anyone doing anything fabulous tonight? You may not get a response but you can have a giggle to yourself whilst saying it | |||
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"I once went to a couple's house for a meet and was shocked to see that the woman was the quietest and shyest mum from the school gates. We played but she still doesn't chat to me at the gates!" That's strange she doesn't talk now,does that annoy you? | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. " My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere. How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? Yes, their life purely consists of their children, nothing else. They can only talk about their children, can't do anything without their children, their children are why they exist." You know their childrens grades and excellent school reports better than your own as they've told you so often etc | |||
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"I think eye contact between parents at our school gate is deemed unacceptable. I'm new to the area so I'm not sure what the penalty is for conversation." Exclusion from the clique probably | |||
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"You will always find cliques at schools and judgmental mums.Ive always found the few dad's that turn up approachable and often on my wave length.The working mums i've found nicer,the ones that sprint away after dropping off to get work.The ones that linger chatting because they can are usually the cliques.On the PTA and upright " Agree with your analysis | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere. How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? Yes, their life purely consists of their children, nothing else. They can only talk about their children, can't do anything without their children, their children are why they exist." Got you! Whilst i think parenting takes a lot of effort, there is a point of diminishing returns. As a child i saw a friends parent literally have a mental breakdown when their child went to university. It was very sad because the parent (and child) were lovely people. But the parent had built a life around the child and when said child grew up, it collapsed. | |||
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" That's strange she doesn't talk now,does that annoy you?" Not at all. She is very shy and probably embarrassed remembering. She just says "Hello" then looks at the floor. | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB" But we could discuss the weather or cartoons... you're missing out | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB But we could discuss the weather or cartoons... you're missing out " Not my general topics of choice, sure there’s many more interesting things which would be a better idea TB | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB But we could discuss the weather or cartoons... you're missing out " Peppa Pig or Paw Patrol, that's the burning question. | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB But we could discuss the weather or cartoons... you're missing out Peppa Pig or Paw Patrol, that's the burning question. " Peppa Pig is the devils creation. Perhaps that's another reason why nobody wants to talk to me. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something." Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere. How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? Yes, their life purely consists of their children, nothing else. They can only talk about their children, can't do anything without their children, their children are why they exist. Got you! Whilst i think parenting takes a lot of effort, there is a point of diminishing returns. As a child i saw a friends parent literally have a mental breakdown when their child went to university. It was very sad because the parent (and child) were lovely people. But the parent had built a life around the child and when said child grew up, it collapsed. " Exactly. We all adore our children and we always put them first, but when it gets to that level it's unhealthy for the mind. | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB But we could discuss the weather or cartoons... you're missing out Peppa Pig or Paw Patrol, that's the burning question. Peppa Pig is the devils creation. Perhaps that's another reason why nobody wants to talk to me. " Annoying little cunt, but I like the drawings. | |||
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"This is one thing I’ve never had the remote amount of interest in. I go, do my thing, ignore everyone and come home! TB" Just because your kid goes to the same school as mine does not mean we have anything else in common so I keep myself to myself. Based on some of the attitudes expressed here I would say I am not missing out on anything | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. " One of our kids threw tantrums, the other didn't. No idea why. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. " The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita | |||
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"One of the massive disappointments about being a parent is picking kids up from school. I assumed that the wait at the school gate would be a ready-made social club of people who have at least some over-lapping interests and definately aren't virgins. The reality is that they seem to be the most socially awkward outcasts all gathered in one spot. I have some competing theories: A) Most are parents who let parenting dominant every part of their non-working lives and have lost the ability to relate to other adults and all their social skills B) They never had any social skills and had children to try and re-live their own childhood C) They have social skills but are too tried to interact with other adults D) They do interact with other adults, just not me because the raincoat and wellies puts them off." I'd agree with all of the above and I think I fit in to box D minus the wellies. I rarely do the school run as I work full time, but when I do I'm generally ignored. It wasn't too bad when my eldest two were there as I knew most of their friends parents now I barely know my Son's friends. I just find it very cliquey. But it can be quite amusing to watch them try and out do each other on who has the biggest sunglasses, and how stories change depending on who's listening. Ginger | |||
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"I find all they do is talk about their children, and especially at my children's school, as a lot of the mums are very 'mumsy mums'. I'm not, and would be chatting about arranging a wild night out somewhere. How would you define a mumsy mum? Like overbearing? Not much else going on in their life? Yes, their life purely consists of their children, nothing else. They can only talk about their children, can't do anything without their children, their children are why they exist. Got you! Whilst i think parenting takes a lot of effort, there is a point of diminishing returns. As a child i saw a friends parent literally have a mental breakdown when their child went to university. It was very sad because the parent (and child) were lovely people. But the parent had built a life around the child and when said child grew up, it collapsed. Exactly. We all adore our children and we always put them first, but when it gets to that level it's unhealthy for the mind." I still find it sad because everything i remember about that parent was awesome. They threw great parties, always made their kids friends welcome in the house, they ran various sports and kids groups in the village. Awesome parent, just totally lost themself. | |||
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"I think we can all see where other parents are going wrong. Would that we could see our own parenting as clearly..." I was reading about one of those supernannys reflecting on their own parenting. They said the problem is that they knew (academically) what the right thing to do was, but their emotions held them back doing it. They could literally parent other peoples kids better, because they didn't have that bond. | |||
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"Went to a parents brunch at my kids school one afternoon secretly imagining it might turn into a mass orgy after a naughty Mum broke out the booze. It didn’t...I was ignored for 2 hours and felt uncomfortable for being the only bloke there. " Yeah, it's a group like any other. Unless there's a person willing to bring outsiders in you'll be unlikely to gain admittance. | |||
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"I think we can all see where other parents are going wrong. Would that we could see our own parenting as clearly... I was reading about one of those supernannys reflecting on their own parenting. They said the problem is that they knew (academically) what the right thing to do was, but their emotions held them back doing it. They could literally parent other peoples kids better, because they didn't have that bond. " Yep. We did the best we could and I think most parents do. | |||
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"Went to a parents brunch at my kids school one afternoon secretly imagining it might turn into a mass orgy after a naughty Mum broke out the booze. It didn’t...I was ignored for 2 hours and felt uncomfortable for being the only bloke there. " I feel your pain. I mean the one thing you all have in common is that you've had sex at least once. | |||
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"I think we can all see where other parents are going wrong. Would that we could see our own parenting as clearly... I was reading about one of those supernannys reflecting on their own parenting. They said the problem is that they knew (academically) what the right thing to do was, but their emotions held them back doing it. They could literally parent other peoples kids better, because they didn't have that bond. Yep. We did the best we could and I think most parents do." Not all mistakes are equal though. Some things are debatable because results can vary due to different personalities of different children. Some thrive on discipline and others it saps their soul. But all kids of human, they all have biological laws of nature that if you do x then the body does y. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. One of our kids threw tantrums, the other didn't. No idea why." I think I was fortunate that I had 3 very well behaved children. They cried and sulked a bit occasionally, but I never had to worry about them causing a scene while we were out. The shop owners near me remarked on how nice my children were; "not like the other kids around here" | |||
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"I've never found the other parents approachable. I've never fitted in. They are either overly mumsy , practically perfect Mary Poppins types or unable to string a sentence together. I've never spent enough time around them as I've always worked so I feel I'm instantly judged whenever I do go in. " I think we all make judgements. | |||
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"One of the massive disappointments about being a parent is picking kids up from school. I assumed that the wait at the school gate would be a ready-made social club of people who have at least some over-lapping interests and definately aren't virgins. The reality is that they seem to be the most socially awkward outcasts all gathered in one spot. I have some competing theories: A) Most are parents who let parenting dominant every part of their non-working lives and have lost the ability to relate to other adults and all their social skills B) They never had any social skills and had children to try and re-live their own childhood C) They have social skills but are too tried to interact with other adults D) They do interact with other adults, just not me because the raincoat and wellies puts them off." It' C .....always C XD | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita" I once screamed at a load of kids to stop doing something dangerous because their parents were just letting them carry on. The kids stopped straight away. I thought the parents would be mad at me for shouting at their precious little kids but they didn't say anything at all. | |||
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"At the school gates I’m usually a C lol, there does seem to be an up swing of little clicky groups all catty with each other, I try not to get involved, it seems too petty " I seem to recall they have been there since I went to school, as I listened to my parents talk at meal times. They both mentioned the clicky groups, how they acted and dressed. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita I once screamed at a load of kids to stop doing something dangerous because their parents were just letting them carry on. The kids stopped straight away. I thought the parents would be mad at me for shouting at their precious little kids but they didn't say anything at all. " Line 23 was actually "if you don't get down, the teacher is going to come and tell you off". Un-fucking-believable. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita I once screamed at a load of kids to stop doing something dangerous because their parents were just letting them carry on. The kids stopped straight away. I thought the parents would be mad at me for shouting at their precious little kids but they didn't say anything at all. Line 23 was actually "if you don't get down, the teacher is going to come and tell you off". Un-fucking-believable. " Madness. Always blaming everyone else for their kids' shitty behaviour. No backbone. | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita I once screamed at a load of kids to stop doing something dangerous because their parents were just letting them carry on. The kids stopped straight away. I thought the parents would be mad at me for shouting at their precious little kids but they didn't say anything at all. Line 23 was actually "if you don't get down, the teacher is going to come and tell you off". Un-fucking-believable. Madness. Always blaming everyone else for their kids' shitty behaviour. No backbone. " Tyler was about 3. If he doesn't respect her now then think what Tyler will be like at 13. Shudder. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. " I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. " I always let mine climb trees even though I was scared of them getting stuck. I don't like heights myself,one day my youngest did get stuck and I couldn't reach her. She basically just had to fall on me and we both ended up in a heap at the bottom of the tree. Fun days. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. " I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment." I saw a headteacher trying to justify the policy on breakfast TV. Her logic was basically they she sucked at sports as a kid and it made her feel bad, so nobody should do sports now. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment." There was one Earthy Mother type at the local primary school that demanded they let everyone win at sports day. The other parents said no way, they race to win!! | |||
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"As a parent of a primary school age child who does over half the school runs and as a governor of the school I am used to a stream of random mothers ‘ slagging off’ other parents. Some of the stories are truly hilarious. Keeping a straight face can sometimes be a serious problem. To be fair, we do slag off a lot of parents for incompetence. Their kids are annoying little shits though. Your kids probably annoy them. My child doesn't throw a tantrum when told "no" to something. Perfect children, so annoying. Talking of that though, as a young parent myself many moons ago, my children didn't throw tantrums when I said no, and I never thought I did anything different to anyone else. As I got older I realised it was how I said no; which words and vocal intonation. I could reason with my children, or they understood why I was saying no. They rarely asked for anything material anyway. The most common mistake I see is that the parent threatens something but doesn't follow through. "Tyler don't stand on the chair" "Tyler you'll hurt yourself if you fall off" "Tyler you'll get in trouble if you don't get off the chair" That conversation had 23 lines to it and Tyler eventually got of the chair when he was bored of it. Tyler has zero respect for his mums authorita I once screamed at a load of kids to stop doing something dangerous because their parents were just letting them carry on. The kids stopped straight away. I thought the parents would be mad at me for shouting at their precious little kids but they didn't say anything at all. " The minute you issue an "or else" you've given them an option. There is no "or else", you do it. | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment. There was one Earthy Mother type at the local primary school that demanded they let everyone win at sports day. The other parents said no way, they race to win!! " Those kind of hippy fucktard parents are the ones that scare the shit out of me. There's only one viable primary school near us and if those self esteem terrorists hijack the PTA and project enough of their own insecurities on the school, then they could bring any school to its knees | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment. There was one Earthy Mother type at the local primary school that demanded they let everyone win at sports day. The other parents said no way, they race to win!! " Every kid knows who are the fastest boys and girls every kid knows who the best footballers.Theyve all worked it out on the playground.They also know who is in the top groups for maths and English.They colour code the reading books.Its ok to stream on academic ability and let every kid know where they stand.Just not at the school sports day... | |||
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"I always let my kids climb trees in the park after school .Way up high.I remember one of their friends climb up with them while his mum was chewing the fat with a pta upright type and then his mum rushed over call me all sorts of irresponsibility and terrified her son so much he almost fell out.My kids climbed down and had to coax him down after his overprotective mum put the fear of falling in him,we never saw him climb a tree again.she glared at me every day for years.I always gave her a wink.. I hate the cotton wool types, she probably petitions the PTA to get rid of the annual egg and spoon race because competitive sports destroy the self esteem of perpetual losers. I could fill a thread about non competitive sports in Junior school. Apparently everyone is a winner until secondary school.I have no problem with representating your house teams,but there are winners and losers to tell kids everyone wins is setting them up for a huge surprise and disappointment. There was one Earthy Mother type at the local primary school that demanded they let everyone win at sports day. The other parents said no way, they race to win!! Those kind of hippy fucktard parents are the ones that scare the shit out of me. There's only one viable primary school near us and if those self esteem terrorists hijack the PTA and project enough of their own insecurities on the school, then they could bring any school to its knees" Haven't you got a couple of years before yours will have to go there? They may have moved on to high school PTA by then. Infiltrate them with a gang of dads. You're fierce, you could sort them out. | |||
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