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"Just stop and grab the camera. What they going to do. Arrest you think not. Police getting the public to do their job as normal. Even if you get caught the cps will fuck it up some how. Waist of time!" Transport for London are not the police fyi | |||
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"I find it quite easy to stick to the speed limit tbh. Rather that than get a fine!!" you have load of practice, you have them average speed cameras, think Northhampton was one of the fist with them. | |||
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"I find it quite easy to stick to the speed limit tbh. Rather that than get a fine!!" Hey licky you’re so fine you’re so fine you blow my mind hey licky hey licky | |||
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"I don’t live in London " No but the op is about transport for London dishing out speed cameras to the public so it’s nothing to do with the police. | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one "The Speeding Cougar  | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one "Whoops! Do you still get to choose points or fine? | |||
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"I find it quite easy to stick to the speed limit tbh. Rather that than get a fine!! Hey licky you’re so fine you’re so fine you blow my mind hey licky hey licky "  | |||
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"I don’t live in London " Why is Luton Airport called, London Luton Airport?  | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one
Whoops! Do you still get to choose points or fine? "Waiting to see if I’m offe_ed the obligatory speeding awareness course | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one
Whoops! Do you still get to choose points or fine? "You get both, unless you qualify for a speed awareness course that is. | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one
Whoops! Do you still get to choose points or fine?
Waiting to see if I’m offe_ed the obligatory speeding awareness course"Or a fine 2 times your weekly wages | |||
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"That was I mean no way they can arrest. Grab and go. " You mean take your initial speeding offence and add assault, theft and possibly robbery on top of it? Just obey the speed limit, for fucks sake. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK " What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either | |||
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"That was I mean no way they can arrest. Grab and go. You mean take your initial speeding offence and add assault, theft and possibly robbery on top of it? Just obey the speed limit, for fucks sake." yep cos cps will find a spelling mistake, and won’t prosecute. | |||
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"That was I mean no way they can arrest. Grab and go. You mean take your initial speeding offence and add assault, theft and possibly robbery on top of it? Just obey the speed limit, for fucks sake. yep cos cps will find a spelling mistake, and won’t prosecute. " Can you please put this theory to the test. Amd let us all know how you get on? | |||
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"That was I mean no way they can arrest. Grab and go. You mean take your initial speeding offence and add assault, theft and possibly robbery on top of it? Just obey the speed limit, for fucks sake. yep cos cps will find a spelling mistake, and won’t prosecute. Can you please put this theory to the test. Amd let us all know how you get on?" sure | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either" So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed " And it's entirely your own fault, so suck it up. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed " Seriously? You have to drive like a real idiot to clock up 12 points through speeding and anyone that loses their licence as a result deserve all you get. Your quality of life would be _educed because you drive like an idiot and repeatedly get caught. The issue the isn't the cameras. It's the fact that you can;t stick to the speed limit. Speed limits DO NOT effect your quality of life. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either" Speed limits 30 your nicked at 34 Ppints on licence 3 years and a fine Not talking about hitting people | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed " speed has no direct link, to accidents, bad driving does. If you may be aware lorry’s are restricted! And are one of the biggest killers. Speed cameras generate revenue not safer roads. | |||
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"Mine was a 35 in a 30...... I wasn’t way over!" Exactky my point I'm sure your a safe carefull driver You don't deserve 3 points for 3 years | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ..." Again, it’s not the police doing it. | |||
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"Just do the right thing... Leave the dump and move somewhere nice, dreary over priced over rated city anyways. "^ this ^ No quality of life | |||
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"Mine was a 35 in a 30...... I wasn’t way over! Exactky my point I'm sure your a safe carefull driver You don't deserve 3 points for 3 years " For driving almost 20% over the limit? So when should a punishment kick in? | |||
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"Just do the right thing... Leave the dump and move somewhere nice, dreary over priced over rated city anyways. " | |||
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"Mine was a 35 in a 30...... I wasn’t way over! Exactky my point I'm sure your a safe carefull driver You don't deserve 3 points for 3 years " In 40k miles a year one isn’t bad... and yes I’m usually pretty careful or could easily lose my licence in one day! | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ... Again, it’s not the police doing it. " Course it is Transport for London don't own any speed guns and don't have the authority Tfl have launched the scheme the local constabulary will teach the users and enforce the points and fines of drivers just going about there daily life ....like I say 34 in a 30 your done Where as you wouldn't be if the do Gooders weren't there with there speed guns | |||
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"Mine was a 35 in a 30...... I wasn’t way over! Exactky my point I'm sure your a safe carefull driver You don't deserve 3 points for 3 years In 40k miles a year one isn’t bad... and yes I’m usually pretty careful or could easily lose my licence in one day!" Exactly this !!!! | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation " Alm i correct in thinking you are a driver by profession? What is so difficult about keeping to the speed limit? Be it 20, 30, or whatever.... just lift your right foot up off the accelerator a wee bit  | |||
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"i dont understand the attitude of 'oh but i only broke the law a little bit'... Burglars dont plead 'only burgled a little bit' ...there's a reason for speed limits, if someone is supposedly responsible enough to drive, it really isnt such a stretch to expect them to do it safely." Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . Speed of just a few miles over the limit should carry a fine I agree But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh If you don't tell your insurance company your insurance is void likewise when you re new your policy they will wack the premium right up | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ..." You do know a few miles faster is the difference between life and death to another person ? Speed limits are there for a reason. If you can't concentrate and drive properly in the correct speed zones then perhaps you shouldn't have a licence | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " She got caught doing 57 in a 50 zone. She is a speeder. | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " She was a speeder on that day. Got caught and fined . Rightly so | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation " It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ... You do know a few miles faster is the difference between life and death to another person ? Speed limits are there for a reason. If you can't concentrate and drive properly in the correct speed zones then perhaps you shouldn't have a licence "I'm over 50 . I've a clean licence I'm not condoning speeding as being ok I'm saying it's wrong to give the general public hand held speed cameras . There will be motorist haters . Or cyclists or do gooders etc etc who will be out to get people . Young or elderly ..... Still don't agree with it | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples!" Not I London it ain't ... | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " Well clearly she has been if the average speed camera says 57 in a 50 zone.... thats an average of 57 so at times she will have been higher than 57 in a 50 zone. | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ... You do know a few miles faster is the difference between life and death to another person ? Speed limits are there for a reason. If you can't concentrate and drive properly in the correct speed zones then perhaps you shouldn't have a licence
I'm over 50 . I've a clean licence
I'm not condoning speeding as being ok
I'm saying it's wrong to give the general public hand held speed cameras .
There will be motorist haters . Or cyclists or do gooders etc etc who will be out to get people .
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Still don't agree with it "Why ? Speed cameras can't lie !! I would view that as people doing a service to the community to help keep our roads safe. | |||
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"i dont understand the attitude of 'oh but i only broke the law a little bit'... Burglars dont plead 'only burgled a little bit' ...there's a reason for speed limits, if someone is supposedly responsible enough to drive, it really isnt such a stretch to expect them to do it safely. Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . Speed of just a few miles over the limit should carry a fine I agree But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh If you don't tell your insurance company your insurance is void likewise when you re new your policy they will wack the premium right up " It is life-threatening. It takes longer to stop at 34mph than 30. That could be the difference between you hitting and killing someone and stopping in time. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either Speed limits 30 your nicked at 34 Ppints on licence 3 years and a fine Not talking about hitting people " The points stay on the licence for 5 years.... anyone that has had any will know this. Mine was for doing 34mph in a 30mph zone... at 3am with nothing on the roads | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! Not I London it ain't ..." I've driven in London as have many others I know who've done so and we all have clean licences. Use the right foot less heavily! | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " How is 57 in a 50 not speeding? You do understand that the limit is ? | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! Not I London it ain't ..." What rubbish, There are huge swathes of London where it;s difficult to get close to the limit never mind over it | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! Not I London it ain't ... I've driven in London as have many others I know who've done so and we all have clean licences. Use the right foot less heavily! "Nothing to do with the right foot . Its reading the road Reading the traffic You may have to accelerate to avoid a situation or avoid a collision Like you have to brake hard occasionally you have to accelerate occassionally | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! Not I London it ain't ... What rubbish, There are huge swathes of London where it;s difficult to get close to the limit never mind over it" Silly comment . Loads of places in London .it's a big place north east south and west It's not congested all day everyday | |||
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"Test it yourselves in the next few days And you've got to be totally honest Stick to the speed limit to the dot . Its not easy ..not impossible but not easy .. Be honest ..very few will achieve it ." You're not supposed to be staying at the speed limit. You're requi_ed to stay at OR BELOW the limit. If holding it at 30 is a problem, drive at 25 so you've got some leeway to work with. Why is this so hard to understand. | |||
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"Test it yourselves in the next few days And you've got to be totally honest Stick to the speed limit to the dot . Its not easy ..not impossible but not easy .. Be honest ..very few will achieve it ." No need to test... I drive in and around the Greater London and home counties area all the time and stick with the speed limit as a matter of course. Its not difficult. I achieve it all the time and always have. As does my partner and Id say the majority of people we know. I really cannot see what you find so hard about it? | |||
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"i dont understand the attitude of 'oh but i only broke the law a little bit'... Burglars dont plead 'only burgled a little bit' ...there's a reason for speed limits, if someone is supposedly responsible enough to drive, it really isnt such a stretch to expect them to do it safely. Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . Speed of just a few miles over the limit should carry a fine I agree But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh If you don't tell your insurance company your insurance is void likewise when you re new your policy they will wack the premium right up It is life-threatening. It takes longer to stop at 34mph than 30. That could be the difference between you hitting and killing someone and stopping in time." At that speed in a modern car would be left that a inch. Reaction time would be feet. Speed is not the killer the driver is! | |||
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"i dont understand the attitude of 'oh but i only broke the law a little bit'... Burglars dont plead 'only burgled a little bit' ...there's a reason for speed limits, if someone is supposedly responsible enough to drive, it really isnt such a stretch to expect them to do it safely. Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . Speed of just a few miles over the limit should carry a fine I agree But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh If you don't tell your insurance company your insurance is void likewise when you re new your policy they will wack the premium right up It is life-threatening. It takes longer to stop at 34mph than 30. That could be the difference between you hitting and killing someone and stopping in time. At that speed in a modern car would be left that a inch. Reaction time would be feet. Speed is not the killer the driver is!" EXACTly every accident every day is caused by an incomompetent driver | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation It's totally easy to drive within the speed limits applicable. Simples! Not I London it ain't ... I've driven in London as have many others I know who've done so and we all have clean licences. Use the right foot less heavily!
Nothing to do with the right foot .
Its reading the road
Reading the traffic
You may have to accelerate to avoid a situation or avoid a collision
Like you have to brake hard occasionally you have to accelerate occassionally
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. " How is it an ionvasion of privacy? Thats as ridiculous as your claim that it effects your quality of life There are speed limits. Stick to them. Like most people do. This crazy argument about how unfair it is that you could get caught while ignoring that not getting caught is entirely in your hands just sctreams selfish and dangerous motorist Anybody that cares about road safety would see this as a good thing | |||
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. " your correct now way should joe public be allowed to do that. | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! " Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 | |||
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"i dont understand the attitude of 'oh but i only broke the law a little bit'... Burglars dont plead 'only burgled a little bit' ...there's a reason for speed limits, if someone is supposedly responsible enough to drive, it really isnt such a stretch to expect them to do it safely. Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . Speed of just a few miles over the limit should carry a fine I agree But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh If you don't tell your insurance company your insurance is void likewise when you re new your policy they will wack the premium right up It is life-threatening. It takes longer to stop at 34mph than 30. That could be the difference between you hitting and killing someone and stopping in time. At that speed in a modern car would be left that a inch. Reaction time would be feet. Speed is not the killer the driver is!" But if you weren't speeding, then you would be stopping earlier? | |||
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. " I have no issue with the public having speed cameras. There have been community speedwatch areas in Norfolk for a long time! | |||
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. " Yes its a brilliant scheme and one we welcome. Yes its fair to competent drivers. How on earth could enforcing the law be seen as an invasion of privacy? | |||
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. " i see nothing wrong with it at all..if people are willing to volunteer then it can only be a good thing...and no, i dont think it's an invasion of anyone's privacy at all.They are driving in public, not on private land, so they are subject to the laws on speeding. I really don't see how anyone can defend speeding..is it ok to be 'just a bit' over the limit as well?....or is that mysteriously different? | |||
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"It's probably not physically possible to have 100% concentration on the 100 % of your journey We are humans and get distracted Even reading road signs avoiding bus lanes observing cyclists buses lorries pedestrians.emergency vehicles Sun in your eyes.rain . Light and Dark . Poor vision .a crash that you look at Your radio Your sat nav And a hund_ed other things . At some point you will be doing 35 in a 30 without realising ...... All the more reason to remainbelow the limit. Surely?" Yeah but you won't ...in that split second minute or moment you'll go 35 in a 30 Or are we saying we drive along staring at our speedo Be undue care and attention lol Very very very few stick to the exact speed limit everyday Put it to the test I'll give good odds .. | |||
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And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion"Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding You speed at some point during your weeks work You'd crash if you didn't Cos you accelerated for safety Just being petty | |||
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"Anyway Wherever you live Pit it to the test 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 Ect etc If your honest with yourself not many will achieve it . P's it's not about speeders or speeding It's about giving the general public hand held speed guns Most of you have turned tge subject into the rights and wrongs and how to drive It's wether you agree with TFL running the scheme. .. Is it fair to drivers Is it invasion of privacy ...along those lines .. I have no issue with the public having speed cameras. There have been community speedwatch areas in Norfolk for a long time!" There have been similar schemes run in Lincolnshire, East Yorkshire and Warwickshire in recent years. Those in Lincolnshire were conducted by Schoolkids outside their schools where speeding issues had been a major problem! These campaigns brought about dramatic drops in Speeding offences. Drivers caught speeding outside schools stated it was hugely effective and embarrassing but showed the errors they made! | |||
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"You could use the speed cameras to fill the holes in the road. Oh wait minute there’s not enough cameras. " Not quite following that logic, but maybe poor road surface is another reason to drive below the speed limit? And if you don't maybe the revenue from the fines will end up in a budget repairing the roads. | |||
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And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty "You need to get off the road. You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit. | |||
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"It's probably not physically possible to have 100% concentration on the 100 % of your journey We are humans and get distracted Even reading road signs avoiding bus lanes observing cyclists buses lorries pedestrians.emergency vehicles Sun in your eyes.rain . Light and Dark . Poor vision .a crash that you look at Your radio Your sat nav And a hund_ed other things . At some point you will be doing 35 in a 30 without realising ...... Are you honestly saying you can;t drive at the speed limit and simultaneously pay attention to the road around you? " I probably can . Many many can't that's why there's accidents .. If your om the road a long while your mind does drift ...at thus point you might go 35 in a 30 Test yourself ..every single journey this week ..you'll go over | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . " With the correct training & support, it's an overwhelming YES from me! | |||
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"I would verymuch doubt that TfL will be handing out callibrated speed guns to random Joe Publics. They will go to trained and reliable people whose job will be to catch you when you are busy avoiding bus lanes and bikes and listening to your satnav and talking on your hands free kit and listening to the radio blah blah blah.... and you accidently find yourself doing 35 in a 30 zone. My advice to you is to give up your licence now and become a Deliveroo rider or something. You are doomed." | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit."Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way .. Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up . Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really . | |||
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"I would verymuch doubt that TfL will be handing out callibrated speed guns to random Joe Publics. They will go to trained and reliable people whose job will be to catch you when you are busy avoiding bus lanes and bikes and listening to your satnav and talking on your hands free kit and listening to the radio blah blah blah.... and you accidently find yourself doing 35 in a 30 zone. My advice to you is to give up your licence now and become a Deliveroo rider or something. You are doomed. "Wow a sensible answer about the subject | |||
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"Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit. It's easily done ... Not talking about hitting people You don't deserve 3 points for 3 years Tfl have launched the scheme the local constabulary will teach the users and enforce the points and fines of drivers just going about there daily life ....like I say 34 in a 30 your done Where as you wouldn't be if the do Gooders weren't there with there speed guns Doing say 34 in a 30 isn't exactky crime and life threatening breaking the law is it now . But points on your licence for 3 years a bit harsh Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " OP you can say you aren't condoning speeding all you like but you aren't exactly condemning it are you? They are just some of your comments from the first half of the thread | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really ."I am genuinely concerned now for your passengers and any unfortunate other around where you drive. I ask again, have you never taken any Advanced motorist or defensive driving courses? | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really ."So your example of when you would accelerate out of danger is a scenario where you have completely misread the road and the speed of another vehicle and put yourself in danger? Interesting... | |||
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"There is a simple solution to the speeding problem,all vehicles should have engine restrictions,why are car's etc designed to go faster than 70MPH? And engines should be fitted with computer controlled restricted engines that only go 30MPH in 30 zones then people could not speed so we wouldn't need speed cameras and the country would be a safer place for everyone.I also think the punishment for speeding is pathetic,anyone speeding should have to face attempted murder charges,then no one would think it was clever to break the law " attempted murder?!!! Get a grip of yourself. Next you will be telling us that McDonald's or any other fast food outlet should be charged with that for attempting to murder us with fatty foods, cigarette companies should be charged, car manufacturers should be charged for making diesel engines. In fact let's make it attempted murder to do anything where someone might die. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed " In that case, your 'quality of life' is in your ow hands. Simply stick to the speed limit to preserve it. | |||
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"There is a simple solution to the speeding problem,all vehicles should have engine restrictions,why are car's etc designed to go faster than 70MPH? And engines should be fitted with computer controlled restricted engines that only go 30MPH in 30 zones then people could not speed so we wouldn't need speed cameras and the country would be a safer place for everyone.I also think the punishment for speeding is pathetic,anyone speeding should have to face attempted murder charges,then no one would think it was clever to break the law attempted murder?!!! Get a grip of yourself. Next you will be telling us that McDonald's or any other fast food outlet should be charged with that for attempting to murder us with fatty foods, cigarette companies should be charged, car manufacturers should be charged for making diesel engines. In fact let's make it attempted murder to do anything where someone might die. " People choose to harm themselves by eating fast foods, smoking ETC, A child who gets killed by a speeding car didn't choose to be killed,someone killed them by braking the law,which is murder  | |||
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"There is a simple solution to the speeding problem,all vehicles should have engine restrictions,why are car's etc designed to go faster than 70MPH? And engines should be fitted with computer controlled restricted engines that only go 30MPH in 30 zones then people could not speed so we wouldn't need speed cameras and the country would be a safer place for everyone.I also think the punishment for speeding is pathetic,anyone speeding should have to face attempted murder charges,then no one would think it was clever to break the law attempted murder?!!! Get a grip of yourself. Next you will be telling us that McDonald's or any other fast food outlet should be charged with that for attempting to murder us with fatty foods, cigarette companies should be charged, car manufacturers should be charged for making diesel engines. In fact let's make it attempted murder to do anything where someone might die. People choose to harm themselves by eating fast foods, smoking ETC, A child who gets killed by a speeding car didn't choose to be killed,someone killed them by braking the law,which is murder "No it isn't. Murder requires intent to kill or cause serious injury. | |||
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attempted manslaughter would be better to use,but I was really just trying to make the point that the punishment for crimes is inadequate for the crimes being committed not just speeding | |||
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"It's probably not physically possible to have 100% concentration on the 100 % of your journey We are humans and get distracted Even reading road signs avoiding bus lanes observing cyclists buses lorries pedestrians.emergency vehicles Sun in your eyes.rain . Light and Dark . Poor vision .a crash that you look at Your radio Your sat nav And a hund_ed other things . At some point you will be doing 35 in a 30 without realising ...... " I dont. | |||
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"Or as summed up in a semi-humorous fashion years ago.... "A vehicle is held together by 10's of thousands of Nuts, but it's the Nut behind the Wheel that's the unknown element"." Ha ha so true | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation " Really? I think its piss easy to stick to speed limits, just pay attention to what you're doing. | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation Really? I think its piss easy to stick to speed limits, just pay attention to what you're doing. Personally I think that too many speed cameras could make people concentrate too much on their speedometer and not concentrate enough on the road. " | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ... You do know a few miles faster is the difference between life and death to another person ? Speed limits are there for a reason. If you can't concentrate and drive properly in the correct speed zones then perhaps you shouldn't have a licence
I'm over 50 . I've a clean licence
I'm not condoning speeding as being ok
I'm saying it's wrong to give the general public hand held speed cameras .
There will be motorist haters . Or cyclists or do gooders etc etc who will be out to get people .
Young or elderly .....
Still don't agree with it "Possibly an odd point to make - the police also are the general public. That's the whole point of a constable, that they are the same as the rest of us , governed by the same laws and living the same life. Your reference to cyclists and do gooders suggests you're just a bit paranoid - you do realise most adult cyclists also have a car licence don't you? | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation Really? I think its piss easy to stick to speed limits, just pay attention to what you're doing. Personally I think that too many speed cameras could make people concentrate too much on their speedometer and not concentrate enough on the road. Nonsense. Personal opinion. Having to constantly look out for speed cameras and now (allegedly) random do gooders hiding behind hedges with their new toy is liable to be a distraction from watching the road conditions and observing more important hazards (like Prius driving minicabbers) Professional opinion...... Use the gears. If its a 20 hold your car in second, 30 hold it in 3rd, 40 hold it in 4th. The engine noise will tell you damn near all you need to know about what speed you're doing. Once youve hit the speed you want, theres absolutely no need to accelerate any more so you maintain your speed, if you have to slow down its no big deal to bring your speed back up. Ive been driving since I was 16, have a clean driving license and have never been in an accident, or caught up in someone else's. These days I do around 50k miles a year, all sorts of roads, town, country, city, motorway. Poor observation, poor car control and poor planning are major contributors to accidents. Coupled with pure dumb arrogance...... " I have been driving for 30 years+, plenty of speeding tickets, no accidents apart from first year of driving. OTOH, I know many people with no speeding tickets but multiple accidents. I doubt there is any correlation. | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation Really? I think its piss easy to stick to speed limits, just pay attention to what you're doing. Personally I think that too many speed cameras could make people concentrate too much on their speedometer and not concentrate enough on the road. Nonsense. Personal opinion. Having to constantly look out for speed cameras and now (allegedly) random do gooders hiding behind hedges with their new toy is liable to be a distraction from watching the road conditions and observing more important hazards (like Prius driving minicabbers) Professional opinion...... Use the gears. If its a 20 hold your car in second, 30 hold it in 3rd, 40 hold it in 4th. The engine noise will tell you damn near all you need to know about what speed you're doing. Once youve hit the speed you want, theres absolutely no need to accelerate any more so you maintain your speed, if you have to slow down its no big deal to bring your speed back up. Ive been driving since I was 16, have a clean driving license and have never been in an accident, or caught up in someone else's. These days I do around 50k miles a year, all sorts of roads, town, country, city, motorway. Poor observation, poor car control and poor planning are major contributors to accidents. Coupled with pure dumb arrogance...... " I've been driving since 17, made a living out of it for 4 years (1000 miles a week plus) and still do a fair bit. Never caused an accident either. I'm commenting on what I have seen since the rush to put speed cameras everywhere. I think that it has an effect on concentration and observation and it's safer to drive to the conditions and quality of the road. Regarding speed, it's poor judgement and inappropriate use which causes accidents. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed speed has no direct link, to accidents, bad driving does. If you may be aware lorry’s are restricted! And are one of the biggest killers. Speed cameras generate revenue not safer roads. " the point about lorrys is very valid they are the biggest arseholes on the road driving the most dangerous vehicles on the road. but according to some on here if you are caught doing a few miles per hour over the limit you are the lowest form of life | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really ."You have no clue. I said, "you do not accelerate to get out of situations if that means you break the speed limit". There is no excuses for EVER breaking the speed limit. | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really .
You have no clue.
I said, "you do not accelerate to get out of situations if that means you break the speed limit".
There is no excuses for EVER breaking the speed limit."There are plenty of excuses for breaking the speed limit and in fact the police and ambulances do this all the time, sometimes in a highly dangerous way. | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really .
You have no clue.
I said, "you do not accelerate to get out of situations if that means you break the speed limit".
There is no excuses for EVER breaking the speed limit.
There are plenty of excuses for breaking the speed limit and in fact the police and ambulances do this all the time, sometimes in a highly dangerous way."Youre using the because the police/ambulances speed so can I defence????? FFS. Overall theyre a whole lot better trained at high speed driving than the average numpty out there.... Some peoples attitude to speed beggars belief...... | |||
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"Only traffic police in pursuit are technically allowed to drive as fast as they want to/ deem safe or necessary. Ambulance and fire engine have guidelines how much over the limit they should drive, even with blues going. If they were to crash above this limit, they are in all kinds of trouble. For the record- generally speaking you have 10% plus 3 mph before you will be fined for a speeding offence. 36 in a 30 zone, 69 in a 60 zone 80 in a 70 zone etc. Giving the general public speed guns has happened in other counties for a while now. The procedure is usually like this: The local residents complain over and over about vehicles speeding through their village, the police may set a speed van in the area once or twice, the residents continue to complain, presumably if the speed van didn't make enough revenue it won't return! The residents are offe_ed to carry out speed monitoring for a while themselves ( there are residents that love this kind of thing, they get to pretend to be a big policeman for a day or two) The speeding results are returned to the police. You will then receive a warning notice, stating your speed, also what the speed limit was. You won't receive points or a fine, just a warning letter. If you repeated the speeding in the same area over and over or perhaps drove at a crazy speed you MAY get a visit from the police and told off and warned again. At the moment you will only get a fine and points from an official source, police traps or fixed high way traps. Like most things, this could change in a way to generate the most revenue in the future."
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"I'm not against speed cameras" I am as they tend to rely on technology, rather than a good old bobby. After a while the speed camera is useless, as everyone slows down for a speed camera then goes back to speeding afterwards. | |||
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"Only traffic police in pursuit are technically allowed to drive as fast as they want to/ deem safe or necessary. Ambulance and fire engine have guidelines how much over the limit they should drive, even with blues going. If they were to crash above this limit, they are in all kinds of trouble. For the record- generally speaking you have 10% plus 3 mph before you will be fined for a speeding offence. 36 in a 30 zone, 69 in a 60 zone 80 in a 70 zone etc. Giving the general public speed guns has happened in other counties for a while now. The procedure is usually like this: The local residents complain over and over about vehicles speeding through their village, the police may set a speed van in the area once or twice, the residents continue to complain, presumably if the speed van didn't make enough revenue it won't return! The residents are offe_ed to carry out speed monitoring for a while themselves ( there are residents that love this kind of thing, they get to pretend to be a big policeman for a day or two) The speeding results are returned to the police. You will then receive a warning notice, stating your speed, also what the speed limit was. You won't receive points or a fine, just a warning letter. If you repeated the speeding in the same area over and over or perhaps drove at a crazy speed you MAY get a visit from the police and told off and warned again. At the moment you will only get a fine and points from an official source, police traps or fixed high way traps. Like most things, this could change in a way to generate the most revenue in the future." It’s not just traffic police in pursuit who can drive as fast as they like. Any police officer can drive as fast as they like as long as they can justify it and theyvrisk assess as they go. There used to be a 20mph above the speed limit restriction but that was lifted last year as it wasn’t realistic. Any blue light run is at the descretion of the driver to decide on suitable speed. And the cps guideline is 10%+2mph before you’ll get prosecuted which is why gatso’s are set at 35 in a 30 before they go off. | |||
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"I'm not against speed cameras I am as they tend to rely on technology, rather than a good old bobby. After a while the speed camera is useless, as everyone slows down for a speed camera then goes back to speeding afterwards." I drive past a couple of speed cameras regularly, on the A1 in North Northumberland. They both have precisely this effect, and, in the process make two very dangerous junctions much safer. They are a reasonable response - stopping you from speeding on the bits of the road without dangerous junctions is not a priority, but stopping you speeding on the bits where there is a dangerous junction is..... | |||
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"Only traffic police in pursuit are technically allowed to drive as fast as they want to/ deem safe or necessary. Ambulance and fire engine have guidelines how much over the limit they should drive, even with blues going. If they were to crash above this limit, they are in all kinds of trouble. For the record- generally speaking you have 10% plus 3 mph before you will be fined for a speeding offence. 36 in a 30 zone, 69 in a 60 zone 80 in a 70 zone etc. Giving the general public speed guns has happened in other counties for a while now. The procedure is usually like this: The local residents complain over and over about vehicles speeding through their village, the police may set a speed van in the area once or twice, the residents continue to complain, presumably if the speed van didn't make enough revenue it won't return! The residents are offe_ed to carry out speed monitoring for a while themselves ( there are residents that love this kind of thing, they get to pretend to be a big policeman for a day or two) The speeding results are returned to the police. You will then receive a warning notice, stating your speed, also what the speed limit was. You won't receive points or a fine, just a warning letter. If you repeated the speeding in the same area over and over or perhaps drove at a crazy speed you MAY get a visit from the police and told off and warned again. At the moment you will only get a fine and points from an official source, police traps or fixed high way traps. Like most things, this could change in a way to generate the most revenue in the future. It’s not just traffic police in pursuit who can drive as fast as they like. Any police officer can drive as fast as they like as long as they can justify it and theyvrisk assess as they go. There used to be a 20mph above the speed limit restriction but that was lifted last year as it wasn’t realistic. Any blue light run is at the descretion of the driver to decide on suitable speed. And the cps guideline is 10%+2mph before you’ll get prosecuted which is why gatso’s are set at 35 in a 30 before they go off. " The thresholds were set by ACPO then adopted by the CPS. | |||
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"Losing quality of life in the UK What a ludicrous comment. Driving at the speed limit has zero impact on your quality of life. Unlike when someone is hit by a speeding motorist, that does fuck up their quality of life. And not just their's either So when I get 12 points on my licence and can't drive to earn a living ... Guess what My quality of life has _educed speed has no direct link, to accidents, bad driving does. If you may be aware lorry’s are restricted! And are one of the biggest killers. Speed cameras generate revenue not safer roads. " Speeding can cause accidents, you have less time to react to something unexpected, but the worst thing is the consequences, hitting a child in an urban zone at 30mph is already bad. Do it at 40 and it is much worse. It does not matter who is to blame, the kid is dead. | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one "I've got to do a speed awareness course next month | |||
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I've got to do a speed awareness course next month "Everyone I know who has attended one came away saying, wow, I never realised or thought of that....... Theyre a good idea. | |||
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"I'm a professional driver (18 years) driving a large vehicle, that can easily accelerate from 25pmh to 45pmh in about 35 seconds! (Ok it's a coach) I am always in London and surrounding counties, and have never gone above 30mph in built up areas.... mainly due to the actual stopping distance is largely more than a car due the the size/weight of vehicle. If you speed in London then your very reckless and also inconsiderate of anyone around you.... fuck it's hard enough to reach 20mph in the city! Once again not talking about reckless speeding !! Or being inconsiderate .. Very much doubt if you've never gone 34 . 35 . 36 35 mph increases a stopping distance by over 6 metres. Do you not think that is an issue? Similarly if you hit a pedestrian at 35 they are around 4 times more likely to sustain fatal injuries than at 30mph. Now given that we are talking London, a ridiculously crowded city where every 30 limit is in a residential area do you honesty think doing 35 is okay? And can you not see why they have brought in 20 limits as a pedestrian is far more likely to survive a collision at those speeds 3rd time of saying it I'm not condoning speeding I'm saying is it right general public should be handed calibrated hand held speed guns to catch motorists out . Modern cars will stop on a sixpence not 6ft at 30 35 Morris minor or HGV maybe so You have repeatedly condoned speeding
And being honest I;ll take Rospa's stats over your opinion
Every reply to you says I'm not condoning speeding
You speed at some point during your weeks work
You'd crash if you didn't
Cos you accelerated for safety
Just being petty
You need to get off the road.
You NEVER accelerate for safety. Especially if that means you need to break the speed limit.
Lol proves the competent drivers to the ones that think they can drive
Of course you accelevate to be safe if totally necessary
You sound like the type with respect that slams his brakes on when there's an emergency vehicle coming instead of accelerating and getting out the way ..
Spose you enter a motorway at 50 instead of 70 in front of a lorry and don't speed up .
Plenty like you about that think they know bit don't really .
You have no clue.
I said, "you do not accelerate to get out of situations if that means you break the speed limit".
There is no excuses for EVER breaking the speed limit.
There are plenty of excuses for breaking the speed limit and in fact the police and ambulances do this all the time, sometimes in a highly dangerous way."Actually, no they don't. If they cause an accident by speeding/dangerous driving, they face prosecution. | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one
I've got to do a speed awareness course next month "I did one in December. One of the reasons why I am on the anti-speeding bandwagon now. It was really interesting and shocking how little people actually knew about speed and road types. I was the only person who knew what a dual carriageway was... | |||
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"Only traffic police in pursuit are technically allowed to drive as fast as they want to/ deem safe or necessary. Ambulance and fire engine have guidelines how much over the limit they should drive, even with blues going. If they were to crash above this limit, they are in all kinds of trouble. For the record- generally speaking you have 10% plus 3 mph before you will be fined for a speeding offence. 36 in a 30 zone, 69 in a 60 zone 80 in a 70 zone etc. Giving the general public speed guns has happened in other counties for a while now. The procedure is usually like this: The local residents complain over and over about vehicles speeding through their village, the police may set a speed van in the area once or twice, the residents continue to complain, presumably if the speed van didn't make enough revenue it won't return! The residents are offe_ed to carry out speed monitoring for a while themselves ( there are residents that love this kind of thing, they get to pretend to be a big policeman for a day or two) The speeding results are returned to the police. You will then receive a warning notice, stating your speed, also what the speed limit was. You won't receive points or a fine, just a warning letter. If you repeated the speeding in the same area over and over or perhaps drove at a crazy speed you MAY get a visit from the police and told off and warned again. At the moment you will only get a fine and points from an official source, police traps or fixed high way traps. Like most things, this could change in a way to generate the most revenue in the future. It’s not just traffic police in pursuit who can drive as fast as they like. Any police officer can drive as fast as they like as long as they can justify it and theyvrisk assess as they go. There used to be a 20mph above the speed limit restriction but that was lifted last year as it wasn’t realistic. Any blue light run is at the descretion of the driver to decide on suitable speed. And the cps guideline is 10%+2mph before you’ll get prosecuted which is why gatso’s are set at 35 in a 30 before they go off. The thresholds were set by ACPO then adopted by the CPS." Yes but it’s the cps who decide who gets charged with what not ACPO so it’s known as the CPS charging standard. | |||
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"And the cps guideline is 10%+2mph before you’ll get prosecuted which is why gatso’s are set at 35 in a 30 before they go off. The thresholds were set by ACPO then adopted by the CPS." What you say is sort of true when talking about Gatso's. The reason Gatso's are set to 35mph is because they are not accurate, the CPS knows this which is why the guidline is 35mph. Over most of the country they have been or are in the process of being replaced by digital speed traps. The digital speed traps are spot on accurate and need no lines on the road surface to calculate speed, also they are linked to a base that can work out average speed as well. In fact they are very small black boxes, most drivers would never know they are there. The new digital traps are not bound by the 10%+2mph rule and that's why all over the country people are being fined for 1mph over the speed limit. | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " Evidently she is.... If she keeps up her flagrant law breaking I hope you'll be a good son and visit her in prison  | |||
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"Basically the police will give members of the public calibrated hand held speed guns After a week they will download the speeders reg number and you'll get your fate through the post . Ww not talking drag racing speed here . We are talking a few mph over the limit It's easily done ... You do know a few miles faster is the difference between life and death to another person ? Speed limits are there for a reason. If you can't concentrate and drive properly in the correct speed zones then perhaps you shouldn't have a licence
I'm over 50 . I've a clean licence
I'm not condoning speeding as being ok
I'm saying it's wrong to give the general public hand held speed cameras .
There will be motorist haters . Or cyclists or do gooders etc etc who will be out to get people .
Young or elderly .....
Still don't agree with it "As a population we have choices. If instead of complaining on forums such as this, (and I'm sure there's a 'was a fair cop, but I'm not prepa_ed to take the responsibility' forums elsewhere), everyone wrote to their MP saying don't let grizzled old civvies, take on speeding enforcement, please fund the police properly. And I'm prepa_ed to pay extra tax... That is problem solved | |||
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"It’s 30 for a reason. A pedestrian is more likely to survive an impact at 30 than at 35. Twenty mph _eduction even better for children." Most of Bristol is currently 20mph. Including some 150yd stretches between 30mph areas. There is the alternative angle of increasing it to 70mph and clearing up the gene pool a bit.... just saying like... | |||
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"My mother's 75 Clean licence all her life Average speed camera said 57 in a 50 3 points and 100 pound fine She's not a speeder .never has been never will be ........ " well she broke the law .they don't put up speed limit signs for fun .and if she didn't see the sign perhaps she shouldn't be driving now at all .there is no excuse no matter what | |||
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"Nope. It is money making. A few weeks ago there were 4 vans and about 10 police checking speeds and pulling people in to side streets to give tickets out. Try getting the police to visit you if you have a break in....on the same day would be nice!!" The only "money making" part is fixed cameras and mobile cameras operated by the "Safer Roads Partnership" The police rarely get involved with issuing speeding notices. If there were 4 vans and 10 Police, it was obviously a major operation and for all you know might have had nothing to do with speeding as such. If they catch people speeding during the course of another operation, off course they are going to pull them in..............they would be stupid not to. | |||
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"Nope. It is money making. A few weeks ago there were 4 vans and about 10 police checking speeds and pulling people in to side streets to give tickets out. Try getting the police to visit you if you have a break in....on the same day would be nice!!" Thet weren't looking for people speeding | |||
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"Nope. It is money making. A few weeks ago there were 4 vans and about 10 police checking speeds and pulling people in to side streets to give tickets out. Try getting the police to visit you if you have a break in....on the same day would be nice!! The only "money making" part is fixed cameras and mobile cameras operated by the "Safer Roads Partnership" The police rarely get involved with issuing speeding notices. If there were 4 vans and 10 Police, it was obviously a major operation and for all you know might have had nothing to do with speeding as such. If they catch people speeding during the course of another operation, off course they are going to pull them in..............they would be stupid not to." Even then it's not "just a money making scheme". They only put up fixed cameras at a spot where people have died in a speed related accident. | |||
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" It’s 30 for a reason. A pedestrian is more likely to survive an impact at 30 than at 35. Twenty mph _eduction even better for children." While the second sentence is true it doesnt follow 30 is the right answer. Especially as it was the same answer years ago when car safety was a lost worse. Following the logoc why isnt it 5mph ? Or lower ? | |||
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"Don’t talk to me about speeding fines .... just got one
I've got to do a speed awareness course next month
Everyone I know who has attended one came away saying, wow, I never realised or thought of that.......
Theyre a good idea."I have to be honest, I totally hold my hands up, it was a silly mistake and I deserve the "punishment", but I am pleased it was this and not points and a fine | |||
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"Just said on the news at ten transport for London have launched a new scheme giving general public calibrated speed cameras .. Have you tried sticking to 20 or 30 mph? It's not eaay Not condoning speeding but bang out of order if you ask me .. Losing quality of life in the UK I think the get out clause will be they have to put signs up saying mobile speed camera in operation " buy a car with cruise control problem solved | |||
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