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"No. Your thinking of Daleks With wire baskets on the front?" Could be Cybermen then. Been a while since I saw Dr Who. | |||
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"I think they are brilliant but there should be a book of rules for them. They give a lot of people freedom they would not have. Would you rather see more cars on the road ? With some people it’s the only way they can get out non thier own shopping ect. Not having a pop just my way of seeing it " The only problem I have is the lack of road sense most of them have | |||
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"They can be an absolute pain at times. Driving in the road (illegal) driving on the pavement where they seem to think they have right of way. Blocking isles in shops. Blocking shop door ways because they can't get in so leave them as close to the door as possible. They're good for getting people about who otherwise wouldn't be able to but they should have a big list of rules that come with them! " I got stopped when I tried to take my £2000 road bike into a supermarket, was told to leave it outside. But mobility scooters bigger than Smart cars, can drive right on in! | |||
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"I have no problems with genuine ones for people who really do need them. However some people it seems particularly old women go a bit power crazy and drive round local shopping centers like it's death race 2000. They should be better regulated some of these weight hund_eds of kilo's and can be deadly. However the ones I do have an issue with are the "obeseicles" you know the ones, where people are to lazy to walk coz they are fat! They should be banned. Btw before anyone jumps on this. I have type 2 diabetes,blood pressure, cholesterol and arthritis. But instead of feeling sorry for myself and blame everyone else but myself. I go to the gym 4/5 times a week and eat healthy food. The film wall-e got it spot on." That’s what I was getting at, obese people using them. Keep it up mate, more power to you. | |||
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"Our road is the road to the council estate from town. The fat fucks who need one because of their diet come past like leman 24h " Haha | |||
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"Our road is the road to the council estate from town. The fat fucks who need one because of their diet come past like leman 24h " On the way to Tesco or takeaway no doubt. Look like I said.for people who have real issues such as arthritis,MS and general old age , disability .....whoherwise would be housebound I think it's brilliant. There was a story a few years ago about an old fellow who suffe_ed from dementia who God confused and ended up on the hard shoulder of the M27 about a mile from the onramp. Could have ended up very badly. | |||
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"I think they are brilliant but there should be a book of rules for them. They give a lot of people freedom they would not have. Would you rather see more cars on the road ? With some people it’s the only way they can get out non thier own shopping ect. Not having a pop just my way of seeing it " There are too many of them. Generally with very fat people on them who cannot walk because they are too fat. And old people who have never driven before and are dangerous especially on crowded pavements. Some of the scooters are enormous. You are right. There should be a book of rules and a test. Just because they are on the pavement, does not give them the right to try and run me over or push me out of the way. | |||
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"Well are they? " No, cars and lorries are taking over our streets and towns. | |||
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"One of my friends uses a mobility scooter he's in his early 40s and obese. He also has a number of chronic medical conditions and a life limiting condition. Part of the reason he is obese is linked to his medication and the rest is fuelled by the depression thay comes from being fit active amd having a career to being virtually housebound in a matter of months. His scooter gives him a huge amount of independence. Do next time you sneer at some "fat fuck" remember you know fuck all about their story" When you're disabled, the best thing in the world is being judged by the non disabled. | |||
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"No. Your thinking of Daleks With wire baskets on the front?" You don't think Daleks need to shop as well? | |||
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"Our road is the road to the council estate from town. The fat fucks who need one because of their diet come past like leman 24h " Great profile and pics. Really ugly attitude there. | |||
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"One of my friends uses a mobility scooter he's in his early 40s and obese. He also has a number of chronic medical conditions and a life limiting condition. Part of the reason he is obese is linked to his medication and the rest is fuelled by the depression thay comes from being fit active amd having a career to being virtually housebound in a matter of months. His scooter gives him a huge amount of independence. Do next time you sneer at some "fat fuck" remember you know fuck all about their story" exactly! ive looked after many people who have scooters..many of them you wouldnt be able to see the reason at a glance, and some others who are obese partly becasue of their immobility,condition and medication..no idea why some people think they are so superior they can decide whether others are disabled enough to need one..though i do agree the law needs updating on rules on using them.. | |||
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"Saw one towing another one yesterday, what a time to be alive." don't know why that made me laugh out loud, but it did. | |||
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"Having just read the whole thread I have to say there are some truly vile attitudes being shown towards people who are unfortunate enough to not be able bodied. Do you have any idea how shit it is to try and use public transport, or go to the shops or do just about anything when you can't walk far? I assume some of the posters on here also get disproportionately angry about a blue badge holder if they don't have a visible disability?" If this place is a fair representation of the general public, I want to kill myself. | |||
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"They can be an absolute pain at times. Driving in the road (illegal) driving on the pavement where they seem to think they have right of way. Blocking isles in shops. Blocking shop door ways because they can't get in so leave them as close to the door as possible. They're good for getting people about who otherwise wouldn't be able to but they should have a big list of rules that come with them! " This. In our area there's quite a few and most are respectful of road rules etc. They are a life saver for some people that would be housebound without them. The issues we have are with the nasty types that ride around like they own the road or footpath, with no consideration of others. But I'll admit that if I used one I'd probably get pissed off too if people were always growling at me to get out of the way. Respect goes both ways. I think someone needs to design lighter more user friendly scooters for in towns and shops. Or design shops better for access as even big prams are impossible to get round shops anyway! | |||
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"If you are on a pavement and see a scooter coming towards you, I'm really struggling to see why some people have such an issue with giving them right of way? " Why should they use it as a weapon on a crowded pavement? If it is quiet, then yes of course they can be allowed past, as they are faster than walking pace, but when it is crowded, why should they use it as if it was an emergency vehicle with blue lights to part the traffic? And of course some people are deserving of the scooter, but they are now cheap to buy, and many do, for no better reason than the fact that they are obese or lazy, or both. | |||
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"If you are on a pavement and see a scooter coming towards you, I'm really struggling to see why some people have such an issue with giving them right of way? Why should they use it as a weapon on a crowded pavement? If it is quiet, then yes of course they can be allowed past, as they are faster than walking pace, but when it is crowded, why should they use it as if it was an emergency vehicle with blue lights to part the traffic? And of course some people are deserving of the scooter, but they are now cheap to buy, and many do, for no better reason than the fact that they are obese or lazy, or both." and you can tell that by looking can you? what an ignorant, pejorative load of crap! | |||
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"If you are on a pavement and see a scooter coming towards you, I'm really struggling to see why some people have such an issue with giving them right of way? Why should they use it as a weapon on a crowded pavement? If it is quiet, then yes of course they can be allowed past, as they are faster than walking pace, but when it is crowded, why should they use it as if it was an emergency vehicle with blue lights to part the traffic? And of course some people are deserving of the scooter, but they are now cheap to buy, and many do, for no better reason than the fact that they are obese or lazy, or both. and you can tell that by looking can you? what an ignorant, pejorative load of crap!" Yes. Quite easily. | |||
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"I think they are brilliant but there should be a book of rules for them. They give a lot of people freedom they would not have. Would you rather see more cars on the road ? With some people it’s the only way they can get out non thier own shopping ect. Not having a pop just my way of seeing it The only problem I have is the lack of road sense most of them have " I’ve just nearly been knocked over by one today! The woman looked like she devil with elbows out really going for it towards me. I know my hair is wild today but that’s just ridiculous coming at me like that! Worry not Fabsters I managed to avoid her and I’m really fine | |||
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"If you are on a pavement and see a scooter coming towards you, I'm really struggling to see why some people have such an issue with giving them right of way? Why should they use it as a weapon on a crowded pavement? If it is quiet, then yes of course they can be allowed past, as they are faster than walking pace, but when it is crowded, why should they use it as if it was an emergency vehicle with blue lights to part the traffic? And of course some people are deserving of the scooter, but they are now cheap to buy, and many do, for no better reason than the fact that they are obese or lazy, or both. and you can tell that by looking can you? what an ignorant, pejorative load of crap! Yes. Quite easily. " You can tell by looking at someone whether they are disabled? Or just fat and lazy? | |||
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"Saw one towing another one yesterday, what a time to be alive." Haha thats hilarious | |||
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"I saw this coming 5 years ago... The UK was a goldmine for mobility scooter companies with your raising obesity rates. I was at a trade show 5 years ago and a company was looking for money to expand into UK and Europe.... After reading this thread, this company must have made billions...." McDonald must make commission off the buggy companies as going to one and eating too much leads to the other. I saw a woman on one a few days ago. She needed an 8 wheelers converting not a buggy | |||
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"I think they are brilliant but there should be a book of rules for them. They give a lot of people freedom they would not have. Would you rather see more cars on the road ? With some people it’s the only way they can get out non thier own shopping ect. Not having a pop just my way of seeing it The only problem I have is the lack of road sense most of them have " I once saw an old boy coming the wrong way up Wakefield Road in Bradford on one of those. He seemed happy despite the artics hammering down at him. (For this unlucky enough never to have been to Bradford, it’s a bloody great dual carriageway.) | |||
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"I had to step out into a busy road the other day as two old raspberries on them had parked up next to each other and blocked the entire pavement so they could have a gossip I've had one run into the back of my legs before as well. They are good for the genuinely disabled to have some freedom, but I think there are a lot of lazy people who have them just to avoid walking. When I worked in Hull I used to see a tracksuit clad young guy with clearly no disabilities taking his kids to school on one!" How do you know he had no disabilities? You can assess that from his clothes? | |||
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"I had to step out into a busy road the other day as two old raspberries on them had parked up next to each other and blocked the entire pavement so they could have a gossip I've had one run into the back of my legs before as well. They are good for the genuinely disabled to have some freedom, but I think there are a lot of lazy people who have them just to avoid walking. When I worked in Hull I used to see a tracksuit clad young guy with clearly no disabilities taking his kids to school on one! How do you know he had no disabilities? You can assess that from his clothes?" Well he got off it and trotted into the newsagents perfectly fine, I used to observe a lot whilst stuck in traffic on Holderness road... | |||
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"I had to step out into a busy road the other day as two old raspberries on them had parked up next to each other and blocked the entire pavement so they could have a gossip I've had one run into the back of my legs before as well. They are good for the genuinely disabled to have some freedom, but I think there are a lot of lazy people who have them just to avoid walking. When I worked in Hull I used to see a tracksuit clad young guy with clearly no disabilities taking his kids to school on one! How do you know he had no disabilities? You can assess that from his clothes? Well he got off it and trotted into the newsagents perfectly fine, I used to observe a lot whilst stuck in traffic on Holderness road..." Oh so the fact he can walk a few metres, right... | |||
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"I had to step out into a busy road the other day as two old raspberries on them had parked up next to each other and blocked the entire pavement so they could have a gossip I've had one run into the back of my legs before as well. They are good for the genuinely disabled to have some freedom, but I think there are a lot of lazy people who have them just to avoid walking. When I worked in Hull I used to see a tracksuit clad young guy with clearly no disabilities taking his kids to school on one! How do you know he had no disabilities? You can assess that from his clothes? Well he got off it and trotted into the newsagents perfectly fine, I used to observe a lot whilst stuck in traffic on Holderness road... Oh so the fact he can walk a few metres, right..." Anyone suffering my condition can walk a few paces, but much further causes severe pain Please check it out Spinal stenosis Honestly I am shocked how little I knew I thought I had ligiment damage I am able to walk about it’s very painful but at the moment I’m coping. Some cannot and are in wheelchairs | |||
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"What a novel take on a fat bashing thread It's no one's business why people have them but I agree that there should be some kind of test or something and regulation on road or pavement use for them. The post moaning about not being able to take their bike in a shop is quite frankly ridiculous.... Buy a lock and remove the front wheel. " I know, right!? | |||
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"I had to step out into a busy road the other day as two old raspberries on them had parked up next to each other and blocked the entire pavement so they could have a gossip I've had one run into the back of my legs before as well. They are good for the genuinely disabled to have some freedom, but I think there are a lot of lazy people who have them just to avoid walking. When I worked in Hull I used to see a tracksuit clad young guy with clearly no disabilities taking his kids to school on one! How do you know he had no disabilities? You can assess that from his clothes? Well he got off it and trotted into the newsagents perfectly fine, I used to observe a lot whilst stuck in traffic on Holderness road..." My Mum had to have a wheelchair for her cancer. She could still walk, but it gave her the confidence to go out. Granted, it’s not a scooter, but I imagine it’s the same for many people. Don’t judge everyone you see because it appears they’re completely fine. You have zero idea about their life. | |||
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"I was thinking of the obesity epidemic from living sedantry and obusing there bodies through poor diet and life style choices that I was thinking of. Type 2 diabetes is on the rise. They are prevalent where I live, soon they will be like mobile phones." The only people I ever see on scooters are the elderly, or, on a rare occasion, a very large person. Obviously it’s more acceptable for an elderly person to have one, because, y’know, they’re not seen as lazy and disgusting. | |||
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"A colleague's mother was pinned against a shop counter, by someone who had hi_ed a scooter at the shopping centre. The 'driver' couldn't find reverse and wasn't in control. So if people have them, it should come with training. " Yes, they should | |||
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"Think they need testing taxing and need insurence and rules. " Taxing for what? They are electric so are zero-emission vehicles. Those who complain about mobility scooters using the roads, stop & think for a moment about street design. How many dropped kerbs at junctions are there? How much street furniture is blocking a footway? How many ignorant & selfish motorists have parked their 2ton wankermobiles on the footway forcing people into the roads? | |||
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"A colleague's mother was pinned against a shop counter, by someone who had hi_ed a scooter at the shopping centre. I'm sure I've seen that vid on xhamster. .. " | |||
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"What a novel take on a fat bashing thread It's no one's business why people have them but I agree that there should be some kind of test or something and regulation on road or pavement use for them. The post moaning about not being able to take their bike in a shop is quite frankly ridiculous.... Buy a lock and remove the front wheel. " Thanks for your input. Kind regards X | |||
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"A lady at work has one (I work in a care home to those that don’t know). She had been asking for one for ages but as she doesn’t tend to look in front of her due to a disability we tried to steer her away from it and take her for trips in a wheelchair (she can’t walk unaided) but while I was away on honeymoon the be manager gave her the green light and now she has a beast of a scooter that she can’t control very well, she doesn’t listen to anyone that takes her out and far too big to take into shops and this means having to follow her with her frame which she can’t do for long. Sometimes I wish people would listen to me, even the manager took her out the other day and the lady took her legs out, she did a toilet roll display when I took her! There should be somekind of test to pass before being allowed one of these. Geeky x" Very good point about a test! They could do serious damage if they rammed into a little kid or an old person. | |||
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"What a novel take on a fat bashing thread It's no one's business why people have them but I agree that there should be some kind of test or something and regulation on road or pavement use for them. The post moaning about not being able to take their bike in a shop is quite frankly ridiculous.... Buy a lock and remove the front wheel. Thanks for your input. Kind regards X" You're very welcome! I look forward to me king further inputs in the future. | |||
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"It's important for people with limited mobility to be able to venture and have ability to get around that's not dependent upon others or limited public transport. However, I fear for peoples' safety, due to the way that some people use their scooters. Driving in the dark on a road, sometimes major roads with heavy traffic, driving too fast on footpaths etc. An irreversible speed limit would be ideal for those not licensed for the highway. And it would be great if people undertook training in their use. Someone who's never driven a motor vehicle should require some prior training before entering the public highway too. My lady I care for can’t go faster than a certain speed but she has a tendency to look to the right and not in front of her and my worry is (she said she is looking in front) that she (if it’s ever deemed ok for her to venture out on her own on it) will be going along and not see a small child or something. I do believe tests should be taken. Plus also there is the fact and can’t walk unaided so if she had to get off it at any point this is also a risk (if ever on her own) to herself. I’ve told management my fears and I think since the episode last week of the manager being run over I think her outings with or without a carer is limited, unless in a wheelchair. Geeky x" I'm not sure that this forum is the appropriate place to be discussing one of your resident's so critically. | |||
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"What a novel take on a fat bashing thread It's no one's business why people have them but I agree that there should be some kind of test or something and regulation on road or pavement use for them. The post moaning about not being able to take their bike in a shop is quite frankly ridiculous.... Buy a lock and remove the front wheel. Thanks for your input. Kind regards X You're very welcome! I look forward to me king further inputs in the future. " All the best to you X | |||
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"What a novel take on a fat bashing thread It's no one's business why people have them but I agree that there should be some kind of test or something and regulation on road or pavement use for them. The post moaning about not being able to take their bike in a shop is quite frankly ridiculous.... Buy a lock and remove the front wheel. Thanks for your input. Kind regards X You're very welcome! I look forward to me king further inputs in the future. All the best to you X" And you | |||
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"Since the subject has been raised. Pet peeve of someone I know, who served this country all his younger life so that those who want to restrict the freedoms of anyone not as perfect as they are, and is forced to use one to be mobile.. Don't park cars on the pavement,blocking it, and then whinge about mobility scooters on the road. And try to be aware of, and give people on scooters space and teach your kids the same manners. You are much more fortunate than they are.. Feel better to get that off my chest " Well said | |||
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"Since the subject has been raised. Pet peeve of someone I know, who served this country all his younger life so that those who want to restrict the freedoms of anyone not as perfect as they are, and is forced to use one to be mobile.. Don't park cars on the pavement,blocking it, and then whinge about mobility scooters on the road. And try to be aware of, and give people on scooters space and teach your kids the same manners. You are much more fortunate than they are.. Feel better to get that off my chest " I have neither children in a push chair or mobility scooter and it fills me with righteous fury when I see people park on the pavement. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. " Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? " Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. " Do we the tax payer pay for these people to have the scooters? If not then the reason they have them is pretty much fuck all to do with you or anyone else. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse " | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse " Slight over simplification but they do have a point. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Do we the tax payer pay for these people to have the scooters? If not then the reason they have them is pretty much fuck all to do with you or anyone else. " Presumably it's okay for kids to cycle on footpaths or pedestrianised areas as well if the government hasn't bought their bikes? | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. " Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain." No problem with that but how low do you reckon the percentage is of people on mobility scooters in this situation? | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. No problem with that but how low do you reckon the percentage is of people on mobility scooters in this situation?" We all know that the answer to that is a nominal amount. And many of those that are overweight, it will almost be in conjunction with an illness, not just being "fat lazy fuckers". This thread is about attacking the disabled and the old but attacking the overweight is more acceptable so they are being used to mask the target. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? " Certain medications can cause water retention and bloating. Also some can impair metabolism. But I am not aware of any medication that makes you morbidly obese! And please tell me an illness that causes someone to be 30stone plus? Agreed their are certain conditions and illnesses that impair mobility and thus results in weight gain,and I do feel sorry for them. But these kind of diseases are pretty rare and judging by the amount of extremely large people I see using them I would imagine that they are suffering from a completely different condition all together. Government records are stating that obesity is The biggest health issue of our generation. The rate at which type 2 diabetes is rising it's at almost epidemic proportions, below knee amputation is one of the if not the most common operation of its type today. Obesity is not (normally) caused by an illness or reaction to drugs the percentage that are in this bracket is very small. Obesity is caused by cramming more calories inside than you can burn. That's a fact. I am not having a dig at people who have a genuine disability as that would be grossly insensitive and I would be a total dick head. It's the people who are just damn right lazy and can't even be bothe_ed to help themselves and just continue to add to their own problems. I am not generalising regards everyone who uses them as once again that's ridiculous to assume that everyone who uses one is lazy. However it's just as ridiculous to assume that everyone who does genuinely needs one. Remember these things are available to purchase from pretty much any high street by anyone nationwide. If they we medically necessary they would be controlled just like any other perscription. Yes some are given by the council or NHS. Look I am only speaking from personal experience of what I have seen. I work in social housing and get very involved in disabled adaptations for many different people with varying degrees of illnesses and conditions. And the genuine people tend to be very proactive in helping themselves lead as normal a life as possible. It's the inc_edibly lazy ones who are members of this current the world owes me a living type that gives genuine users a bad name. I am not going to go into too many details as to the amount of people who I have delt with but when you meet people who are literally to lazy to get out of the buggy to open their garage door and even close it after themselves,then see how much takeaway food and fizzy drinks they consume on almost an industrial scale. It does kind of taint your view on very large people who use these devices, you become very cynical and thick skinned. The worst thing is that for every lazy obese person who is getting medical and financial assistance from NHS and government there are probably ten really genuine people who need help but can't get it due to unavailable funds and are housebound unnecessarily. Oh and btw I'm type 2 diabetic and work very hard at not being so. Genetics and age play a huge part but so does being lazy. It's about time people started taking responsibility for their actions and stop expecting the rest of us to bail them out and feel sorry for them. Or as I said previously 50 years from now the first world countries will be like the film wall-e where everyone is obese. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Certain medications can cause water retention and bloating. Also some can impair metabolism. But I am not aware of any medication that makes you morbidly obese! And please tell me an illness that causes someone to be 30stone plus? Agreed their are certain conditions and illnesses that impair mobility and thus results in weight gain,and I do feel sorry for them. But these kind of diseases are pretty rare and judging by the amount of extremely large people I see using them I would imagine that they are suffering from a completely different condition all together. Government records are stating that obesity is The biggest health issue of our generation. The rate at which type 2 diabetes is rising it's at almost epidemic proportions, below knee amputation is one of the if not the most common operation of its type today. Obesity is not (normally) caused by an illness or reaction to drugs the percentage that are in this bracket is very small. Obesity is caused by cramming more calories inside than you can burn. That's a fact. I am not having a dig at people who have a genuine disability as that would be grossly insensitive and I would be a total dick head. It's the people who are just damn right lazy and can't even be bothe_ed to help themselves and just continue to add to their own problems. I am not generalising regards everyone who uses them as once again that's ridiculous to assume that everyone who uses one is lazy. However it's just as ridiculous to assume that everyone who does genuinely needs one. Remember these things are available to purchase from pretty much any high street by anyone nationwide. If they we medically necessary they would be controlled just like any other perscription. Yes some are given by the council or NHS. Look I am only speaking from personal experience of what I have seen. I work in social housing and get very involved in disabled adaptations for many different people with varying degrees of illnesses and conditions. And the genuine people tend to be very proactive in helping themselves lead as normal a life as possible. It's the inc_edibly lazy ones who are members of this current the world owes me a living type that gives genuine users a bad name. I am not going to go into too many details as to the amount of people who I have delt with but when you meet people who are literally to lazy to get out of the buggy to open their garage door and even close it after themselves,then see how much takeaway food and fizzy drinks they consume on almost an industrial scale. It does kind of taint your view on very large people who use these devices, you become very cynical and thick skinned. The worst thing is that for every lazy obese person who is getting medical and financial assistance from NHS and government there are probably ten really genuine people who need help but can't get it due to unavailable funds and are housebound unnecessarily. Oh and btw I'm type 2 diabetic and work very hard at not being so. Genetics and age play a huge part but so does being lazy. It's about time people started taking responsibility for their actions and stop expecting the rest of us to bail them out and feel sorry for them. Or as I said previously 50 years from now the first world countries will be like the film wall-e where everyone is obese." Obesity is caused by some sort of underlying issue. Much of the time it’s a mental health issue. So it is down to illness. I work in a social care setting too. The first thing they teach you is not to judge your service users. I guess you didn’t catch that part. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain This is of course, the simplified version. It’s standard physiology of our body. However, it’s when you ask people why they eat those extra calories. Why they don’t exercise. That’s when you really get to the source of obesity. They cannot blame medication or disease If I knew I was likely to put on weight due to medicine or other reason. My calorie intake would be bare minimum Just an example. I knew someone who was violently sexually assaulted. She got PTSD, didn’t leave the house and turned to food. Unfortunately, sometimes people can’t or don’t have the capacity for that forward thinking, or they use good as a coping mechanism. I’m sometimes really surprised by people’s capacity to see the humanity in things. Now is one of those times. " *food | |||
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"No. Your thinking of Daleks With wire baskets on the front? Could be Cybermen then. Been a while since I saw Dr Who." That's a Dalek WAG. On topic, like most things in the right hands they are fine, coming from an area where there's a significant elderly population, its good to see the users getting some independence that they wouldn't have had... However, whatever you call it, there are loads without driving experience that are lawless. They drive inappropriately on roads and have poor anticipation skills. Somebody over here a while back died as a result of complications after being hit by one of these, not by being hit and killed. They really does need training and some form of licence being requi_ed and some public understanding of their role in getting on with these too. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain This is of course, the simplified version. It’s standard physiology of our body. However, it’s when you ask people why they eat those extra calories. Why they don’t exercise. That’s when you really get to the source of obesity. They cannot blame medication or disease If I knew I was likely to put on weight due to medicine or other reason. My calorie intake would be bare minimum " As would your joy levels no doubt | |||
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"I do hope you remember your offensive, inhumane comments when you're old and immobile." Moi We can only speak as we personally find. Just a little training and consideration on all sides and we all can live in harmony. As the demand has grown, sadly the environment for them to work hasn't, not where we live anyway. Sorry if this offends. | |||
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"I do hope you remember your offensive, inhumane comments when you're old and immobile. Moi We can only speak as we personally find. Just a little training and consideration on all sides and we all can live in harmony. As the demand has grown, sadly the environment for them to work hasn't, not where we live anyway. Sorry if this offends. " Same as cars you mean? And what happens with cars, oh wait, that's different the demand has grown and the environment can;t cope but I bet all these fit healthy non-overweight people on this thread happily drive them | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain " Are you seriously going down the starvation route? People need to eat. There are things like vitamins and minerals that the body needs. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain Are you seriously going down the starvation route? People need to eat. There are things like vitamins and minerals that the body needs." Do you really think I'm that stupid? If you are prone to being fat through either disease or medication restrict your intake and you won't get fat. Your body cannot produce fat without an over active knife and fork. It's so simple .too many blame other things when the answer is not one they like. Don't fucking eat so much. Obesity is costing the nhs millions directly and in directly I'm not here fat bashing or whatever people call it. Take some responsibility for your own body. You get one and look after it. | |||
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"I knew a few lads who sold their cars and got the mobility scooters, they used public transport for getting to work and the scooters for getting around town. It was cheaper than running a car." Apart from at some mad hour, probably quicker around London too, so it's a win on every count. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain Are you seriously going down the starvation route? People need to eat. There are things like vitamins and minerals that the body needs. Do you really think I'm that stupid? If you are prone to being fat through either disease or medication restrict your intake and you won't get fat. Your body cannot produce fat without an over active knife and fork. It's so simple .too many blame other things when the answer is not one they like. Don't fucking eat so much. Obesity is costing the nhs millions directly and in directly I'm not here fat bashing or whatever people call it. Take some responsibility for your own body. You get one and look after it. " Some medications cause weight gain. Some illnesses mean that a person might have to take those medications long term. Some illnesses mean the person can't exercise sufficiently to counteract the weight they have gained! Not everyone gets a choice! I do believe there should be training and a test before being aloud to take a mobility vehicle out onto the roads and pavements. | |||
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"if mobile scooters help people have a better quality of life then who are we to judge and trust me all overweight people arnt just lazy fat fucks" I am. I’m not a fan of angrily slating people, especially on here when we are almost all taking significant risks with respect to STIs. We may well end up costing the NHS money so might want to dial back our righteous indignation. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Do we the tax payer pay for these people to have the scooters? If not then the reason they have them is pretty much fuck all to do with you or anyone else. Presumably it's okay for kids to cycle on footpaths or pedestrianised areas as well if the government hasn't bought their bikes?" Do cyclists have to take a test to use the roads? Should fat cyclists be bar_ed from owning a bike? I see the people that want to take on this mobility scooter crisis, as bullies to be honest. In the best tradition of bullies, picking on those that struggle to fight back. That's not very big, or clever.. | |||
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"The way some people talk, you'd think that the scooters are just for overweight people. Think there's other issues Arthritis Heart defects (not related to weight before anyone says it. Injury from sports or maybe defending our country in combat Genetic disability. Absolutely loads of reasons. If you are one of those people wanting to restrict the use, will you step up to the plate and volunteer to visit the people you cause to be housebound after you have taken away their freedom? So they can have a fraction of the human contact you enjoy? No, didnt think so. " | |||
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"I think they are brilliant but there should be a book of rules for them. They give a lot of people freedom they would not have. Would you rather see more cars on the road ? With some people it’s the only way they can get out non thier own shopping ect. Not having a pop just my way of seeing it " I think some people have them because they’re too fat! | |||
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"I started this thread cause I saw a mobility scooter towing another mobility scooter, it’s just made me laugh. It was supposed to be a lighthearted tongue in cheek thread, I’m not interested in knocking anyone. Live and let live. Note to self don’t start a mobility scooter thread again." Tbh I think there are two totally different issues being discussed. 1:how bad some driver's are . 2: the validity of some users over others. Two completely different conversations and yes your right the first can be light hearted banter. The later is causing a very split opinion doesn't seem to be anyone in the middle. | |||
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"I started this thread cause I saw a mobility scooter towing another mobility scooter, it’s just made me laugh. It was supposed to be a lighthearted tongue in cheek thread, I’m not interested in knocking anyone. Live and let live. Note to self don’t start a mobility scooter thread again." On fairness you also commented very early on in the thread about people using them who don't need them amd obeset people using them. So not sure how that isn't knocking people | |||
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"I started this thread cause I saw a mobility scooter towing another mobility scooter, it’s just made me laugh. It was supposed to be a lighthearted tongue in cheek thread, I’m not interested in knocking anyone. Live and let live. Note to self don’t start a mobility scooter thread again. On fairness you also commented very early on in the thread about people using them who don't need them amd obeset people using them. So not sure how that isn't knocking people " Can’t remember commenting on ‘obeset people’ All the best to you both X | |||
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"I started this thread cause I saw a mobility scooter towing another mobility scooter, it’s just made me laugh. It was supposed to be a lighthearted tongue in cheek thread, I’m not interested in knocking anyone. Live and let live. Note to self don’t start a mobility scooter thread again. On fairness you also commented very early on in the thread about people using them who don't need them amd obeset people using them. So not sure how that isn't knocking people Can’t remember commenting on ‘obeset people’ All the best to you both X" You said That’s what I was getting at, obese people using them. A fairly unambiguous comment | |||
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"When those first appea_ed there was a daft old c*** in Greenock who used to drive the thing down the middle of the pavement full bung and expect people to jump out of his. He ran into kids and a pram and whatnot in a short period and he got a kicking from a guy after he ran into his wife. The police told him if he caused another incident they’d charge him with breach of the peace. The old idiot didn’t need the thing, he was just lazy." You can't tar all users with the same brush just cos one user was aggressive and driving it badly. That would be like me saying he was agressive and prone to fighting because he was Glaswegian.. | |||
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"Yes, they are! Two things need to be introduced: 1) you must actually qualify to need one, being fat and/or lazy doesn't count. and 2) you must pass a test before being allowed out on the street on one. Why should being "fat" exclude people? What if being overweight is a symptom of illness? And if it isn;t, are you suggesting the morbidly obese should be socially isolated? Fat comes from calories. If you are prone to it or medication alters your metabolism. Then adjust diet to suit. No excuse Slight over simplification but they do have a point. Not at all. Weight gain is the side effect of some medication. Adjusting your diet (eating less/ exercising more) does not always stop the weight gain. Fat needs calories so if you don't eat you won't gain Are you seriously going down the starvation route? People need to eat. There are things like vitamins and minerals that the body needs. Do you really think I'm that stupid? If you are prone to being fat through either disease or medication restrict your intake and you won't get fat. Your body cannot produce fat without an over active knife and fork. It's so simple .too many blame other things when the answer is not one they like. Don't fucking eat so much. Obesity is costing the nhs millions directly and in directly I'm not here fat bashing or whatever people call it. Take some responsibility for your own body. You get one and look after it. " It’s funny how utterly clueless people are. | |||
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"I have to add this! We're going around Balmoral on a tour at the moment and someone in a mobility scooter has just crashed into one of the exhibits. Fucking funny x" Haha | |||
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"No. Your thinking of Daleks" Is there a difference? Let the doctor decide. | |||
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"I’m fat and lazy, where can I get one?! " I can sell you one for free if you really really really want one ? | |||
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"I’m fat and lazy, where can I get one?! I can sell you one for free if you really really really want one ?" I really really really want one I’ll give you sexual favours in return | |||
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"No. Your thinking of Daleks" The next stage in human evolution.. | |||
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"I’m fat and lazy, where can I get one?! I can sell you one for free if you really really really want one ? I really really really want one I’ll give you sexual favours in return" Free of charge or will I have to cum in a cup for you to put in the freezer like last time ? | |||
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"Old people shouldn't be allowed them. They have a deathwish!" The machines or the people? Having seen isolated older people and how much that can deprive their life of joy and meaning, any safe enough option that can reconnect them to others is a powerful aide. I think a few tech entrepreneurs are working on flying taxis and micro-vehicles, which could potentially add more options for them too | |||
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"It's probably original 1964 mods who can't come to terms with being without a scooter of some sort......" Quadrophonia: Part 2 was a very different film than the original. | |||
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"Old people shouldn't be allowed them. They have a deathwish! The machines or the people? Having seen isolated older people and how much that can deprive their life of joy and meaning, any safe enough option that can reconnect them to others is a powerful aide. I think a few tech entrepreneurs are working on flying taxis and micro-vehicles, which could potentially add more options for them too " You haven't been run off the pavement by Mavis from number 19 have you | |||
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"Some people are a menace on them, I suffer with bad arthritis in my knees and I would benefit from one at time. But I know people would look and judge so I’m too embarrassed to use one." I might well have to use one myself. I'd rather crawl | |||
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"It's probably original 1964 mods who can't come to terms with being without a scooter of some sort...... Quadrophonia: Part 2 was a very different film than the original. " Didn't know there was a Part 2! I liked Part 1 though, despite it being badly filmed in terms of 1979 scenery! | |||
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"Four old boys come to my pub on a Friday lunchtime. They park their scooters out the front and hobble in. All are in their 80s and have been friends for over 70 years. They live at different sides of town and if it wasn’t for the scooters, they’d not be able to see each other or get out and about. " That's a lovely story. I don't like thinking of old people being lonely. | |||
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"I'd be lost without mine. It has a satnav on it." You get lost on a mobility scooter ? .... really ? How long does your battery last . | |||
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"Having just read the whole thread I have to say there are some truly vile attitudes being shown towards people who are unfortunate enough to not be able bodied. Do you have any idea how shit it is to try and use public transport, or go to the shops or do just about anything when you can't walk far? I assume some of the posters on here also get disproportionately angry about a blue badge holder if they don't have a visible disability?" I think some people are saying that people are using them and causing issues with them are the ones who actually don’t really need them. | |||
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"I'd be lost without mine. It has a satnav on it." use your phone google maps and you can check who’s near on fab as you do 20 mph down the high street | |||
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"Well are they? " Interesting fact that most Mobility scooters users smoke..... | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/26/disabled-man-used-mobility-scooter-as-battering-ram-to-knock-over-two-elderly-women-7980858/" They’re good for giving some people their independence back, but I think they should have a license to operate one! | |||
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"Well are they? Interesting fact that most Mobility scooters users smoke....." I know a woman who has COPD who uses a mobility scooter, and smokes. | |||
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"Well are they? " Bearly see them | |||
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