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"...The spouses of serving military personnel if they are in the UK illegally? It's something that happens in the US, even when the Service person is deployed. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/30/mattis-services-looking-into-military-spouse-deportations/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow " So your reasoning is because it happens in US? if not please explain how it benefits society | |||
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"...The spouses of serving military personnel if they are in the UK illegally? It's something that happens in the US, even when the Service person is deployed. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/30/mattis-services-looking-into-military-spouse-deportations/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow So your reasoning is because it happens in US? if not please explain how it benefits society" It's a talking point given the current politik | |||
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"...The spouses of serving military personnel if they are in the UK illegally? It's something that happens in the US, even when the Service person is deployed. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/30/mattis-services-looking-into-military-spouse-deportations/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow So your reasoning is because it happens in US? if not please explain how it benefits society" I'm not advocating the position, simply asking the question. | |||
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"...The spouses of serving military personnel if they are in the UK illegally? It's something that happens in the US, even when the Service person is deployed. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/30/mattis-services-looking-into-military-spouse-deportations/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow " No, unless they’re is another more valid reason to deport them. But if they’re basing it solely on the basis of up above, No. | |||
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"The only folks we should deport are those illegals who commit a crime on British soil or those who preach for us to be kalifa state in UK .be they illegals or British born "If only the rest of the world had this mentality before colonisation. | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here." Being a little provocative? | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative? "What sort is she talking about ?  | |||
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"No, it would be an absolute disgrace, similar to our recent Windrush fiasco. " Don't forget the shit the gukhas went through! | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative?
What sort is she talking about ? "People trained to kill people. | |||
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"It's a can of worms OP, but I believe in this day and age we should support anyone and their families who have fought for the Kingdom of our Realm. Just look at the way some Gurkhas are being treated "Care to elaborate on how the ghurkas are being treated now? | |||
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"I think the law should only apply to white people. That way we can remain politically correct. "hahaha u made my day | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative?
What sort is she talking about ? "You know..... Frenchies.  | |||
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"It's a can of worms OP, but I believe in this day and age we should support anyone and their families who have fought for the Kingdom of our Realm. Just look at the way some Gurkhas are being treated
Care to elaborate on how the ghurkas are being treated now? "There was a big campaign headed up by Joanna Lumley which raised awareness and got the government to change the situation so, I think it's sorted for them now. Shouldn't have happened in the first place though. | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here." And the military ??? Are you a half wit ? | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative?
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People trained to kill people. "I’m only trained to kill people at the weekend. Does that mean I can stay here during the week? PS. What utter bollocks! | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative?
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People trained to kill people. "I did 5 years as a weekend warrior, at no point was I 'trained to kill people'. What I was taught was to accurately shoot my weapon at enemy targets if I came under attack. If it had come to a choice of me or them, then better believe Id have done everything I needed to to keep my arse alive. | |||
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"What a horrible world we're living in with attitudes like this and some espoused on this thread. One world, one love." Exactly! Just because someone is breaking the law it doesn't mean that they're a criminal. | |||
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"What a horrible world we're living in with attitudes like this and some espoused on this thread. One world, one love. Exactly! Just because someone is breaking the law it doesn't mean that they're a criminal. "
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"We shouldn’t deport anyone. Well anyone that wants to live here peacefully that is. What we should do is stop meddling in other countries business. And stop bombing the bejesus out of people. For years the bombs and bullets ruined lives in Ireland and mainland Britain. Then both sides stopped their bollox, got round a table, talked about it, hugged it out, and the world became a better place. It’s not perfect, but it’s a hell of a lot better. We should be welcoming people who want a better life for themselves and their families with open arms. More love, less hate. More hugs, less bombs. That’s the new world peace slogan right there!!" Why can't people just get on. | |||
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"I am sure I am missing something here, but how is the spouse of a serving soldier an illegal?" I don't know the requirements of immigration through marriage in the USA, but in the UK the passport holder needs to hold down a job with a minimum salary of I think £27,000. I would imagine 18 year old new recruits may have problems meeting that. But allegedly some US service personnel have got married to non US people and taken them to America illegally, and they are getting kicked out. My question stands, if the US service person broke the US law, by bringing an illegal immigrant into America, do they get kicked out of the services? Or is the criminal action 100% the spouses issue? | |||
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"I am sure I am missing something here, but how is the spouse of a serving soldier an illegal? I don't know the requirements of immigration through marriage in the USA, but in the UK the passport holder needs to hold down a job with a minimum salary of I think £27,000. I would imagine 18 year old new recruits may have problems meeting that. But allegedly some US service personnel have got married to non US people and taken them to America illegally, and they are getting kicked out. My question stands, if the US service person broke the US law, by bringing an illegal immigrant into America, do they get kicked out of the services? Or is the criminal action 100% the spouses issue?" We would have to know US laws to answer that question. I would have thought the American person would be arrested for smuggling a person in and the spouse be arrested for illegal entry. Does their occupation mean they can get away with people smuggling (or whatever it's called). | |||
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"I am sure I am missing something here, but how is the spouse of a serving soldier an illegal? I don't know the requirements of immigration through marriage in the USA, but in the UK the passport holder needs to hold down a job with a minimum salary of I think £27,000. I would imagine 18 year old new recruits may have problems meeting that. But allegedly some US service personnel have got married to non US people and taken them to America illegally, and they are getting kicked out. My question stands, if the US service person broke the US law, by bringing an illegal immigrant into America, do they get kicked out of the services? Or is the criminal action 100% the spouses issue? We would have to know US laws to answer that question. I would have thought the American person would be arrested for smuggling a person in and the spouse be arrested for illegal entry. Does their occupation mean they can get away with people smuggling (or whatever it's called)." I doubt we are talking about people smuggling.The wives probably arrived on a tourist visa and attempt to stay and become citzens leading to deportation.If anyone is prepared to die for their country then their wife should have the right to stay. | |||
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" Deport them. And the military. Don't need them sort here. Being a little provocative?
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People trained to kill people. "Ah yes, all those famously lethal medics and doctors included of course  | |||
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"We shouldn’t deport anyone. Well anyone that wants to live here peacefully that is. What we should do is stop meddling in other countries business. And stop bombing the bejesus out of people. For years the bombs and bullets ruined lives in Ireland and mainland Britain. Then both sides stopped their bollox, got round a table, talked about it, hugged it out, and the world became a better place. It’s not perfect, but it’s a hell of a lot better. We should be welcoming people who want a better life for themselves and their families with open arms. More love, less hate. More hugs, less bombs. That’s the new world peace slogan right there!!" Bump | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple." Well said | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple. Well said" It's true though.The only ones that are moaning are the ones that are asked to prove there here legally.if they are then they should have nothing to hide.Them and the pc world idiots are trying to make it so no one can ask any questions or say anything.They say they are about freedom yet they silence every word anyone says.England is a island not a endless money pit for the rest of the world to dip there hands in. As I said before if there here legitimately then they shouldn't have a problem with the government trying to look after the British people first. | |||
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"We shouldn’t deport anyone. Well anyone that wants to live here peacefully that is. What we should do is stop meddling in other countries business. And stop bombing the bejesus out of people. For years the bombs and bullets ruined lives in Ireland and mainland Britain. Then both sides stopped their bollox, got round a table, talked about it, hugged it out, and the world became a better place. It’s not perfect, but it’s a hell of a lot better. We should be welcoming people who want a better life for themselves and their families with open arms. More love, less hate. More hugs, less bombs. That’s the new world peace slogan right there!! Bump "I've always thought we will one day be one people in one nation under one flag.On a little blue ball hurtling through space.  | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple." So say you have a serviceman who is currently deployed in say Estonia, or Afghan or Cyprus etc. Who has a wife who has overstayed her student visa, but is looking after their children whilst he is deployed, do you think she should be deported? Who would you like to look after the kids? | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple. Well said It's true though.The only ones that are moaning are the ones that are asked to prove there here legally.if they are then they should have nothing to hide.Them and the pc world idiots are trying to make it so no one can ask any questions or say anything.They say they are about freedom yet they silence every word anyone says.England is a island not a endless money pit for the rest of the world to dip there hands in. As I said before if there here legitimately then they shouldn't have a problem with the government trying to look after the British people first." Why do you link immigration status to 'dipping their hands in'? | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple. So say you have a serviceman who is currently deployed in say Estonia, or Afghan or Cyprus etc. Who has a wife who has overstayed her student visa, but is looking after their children whilst he is deployed, do you think she should be deported? Who would you like to look after the kids? " Totally agree, young lads prepared to lay down their lives should be, presumably old enough to marry who ever they fall in love with and, the government shouldn't be making it hard for them or their families to be together. | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple. Well said" who decides legitimacy? UKIP & the swivel eyed? | |||
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"It will come to a point when there will be nobody left to deport and people will still keep on blaming immigrants and torries will start deporting white British old people just to get votes ". There's lots of people that hate old white British people and would jump at the chance to deport them.... There called remainers  | |||
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"Who should we change laws for and is that fair to other immigrants who don't have an easy way in? " I doubt if marrying a soldier is an easy way in. | |||
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"There's lots of people that hate old white British people and would jump at the chance to deport them.... There called remainers "Id likebto deport the ignorant; there are plenty on BOTH sides of the leave/remain argument.  | |||
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"There's lots of people that hate old white British people and would jump at the chance to deport them.... There called remainers
Id likebto deport the ignorant; there are plenty on BOTH sides of the leave/remain argument. "..there goes the government... | |||
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"There's hundreds of ex British service men living in the streets.Theres pregnant women living with there parents all due to a lack of housing.Theres old people going hungry and cold due to there pensions being slashed.Theres people being let down by the nhs as it's stretched to breaking point. Yet there's also pc world idiots that live in a fairy tale land that want to let everyone in and everyone stay.Questions should be asked if people are legitimately here or not.If there legally here let them stay.If there here illegally then send them back it's that simple." You mean the ones that say they are 17 yrs old and yet dental specialists have proved they are over 25 yrs old who are then let out on bail of £100 and told to report everyday to the police station never to be seen again ! See whats happening in Europe at present whole towns being taken over and no go zones for the people born there. The girl viciously killed with a rock after being violently abused by someone who was already a convicted criminal in the USA. Too many people are afraid to speak their minds these days for fear of upsetting some limp wristed liberal who has probably never lived in an inner city and the biggest problem in their lives is where to get the Range Rover waxed. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences." | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences." You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas. "What about the Foreign Office? Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it? They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems. "If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally). It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family. | |||
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"Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems. " Point 1 if they have had time to have children then they have had time to make things legal. Point 2 if you dishonerably discharge the spouse for criminal behaviour then they can look after the children. Problem solved | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family."
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever... "I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK. The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability. By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left."Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?"Ask Javid, he knows the difference. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference. "I asked you. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you."People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country."sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat.. I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'- the fighting has been about greed,control and oil I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps. As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies. in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world' | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country.
sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat..
I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'-
the fighting has been about greed,control and oil
I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps.
As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies.
in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world'"We have a full volunteer army, those who join do so in the knowledge that they can be sent into harms way by our democratically elected leaders. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country."And what has that got to do with marrying an illegal immigrant? Next you will be suggesting that special debt needs to be extended to being allowed to drive above the drink/drive limit because they have lots of stress. What if a serviceman/woman has never seen active service or in a non-combatant role? | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country.
sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat..
I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'-
the fighting has been about greed,control and oil
I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps.
As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies.
in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world'
We have a full volunteer army, those who join do so in the knowledge that they can be sent into harms way by our democratically elected leaders. "well thats all fine..but I'd still not use that 'for queen and country' attitude.........it wont be too far away when the royals are actually CBB listers, and hopefully people will never use that shit queen and country argument. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country.
sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat..
I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'-
the fighting has been about greed,control and oil
I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps.
As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies.
in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world'
We have a full volunteer army, those who join do so in the knowledge that they can be sent into harms way by our democratically elected leaders. "I was perfectly happy with a Forces Rail Card. But back then we were persona non grata! | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country.
sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat..
I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'-
the fighting has been about greed,control and oil
I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps.
As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies.
in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world'
We have a full volunteer army, those who join do so in the knowledge that they can be sent into harms way by our democratically elected leaders.
I was perfectly happy with a Forces Rail Card. But back then we were persona non grata!"Well if you had one of those you must have forgotten quite a lot to think people can leave the military at the drop of a hat, half way through a tour. | |||
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"If they are here illegally then yes. The occupation of the spouse is irrelevant. If you're going to make an exception for relatives of HM Armed Forces then let's add relatives of nurses, doctors and firefighters to the list because they seem to be flavour of the month. Oh f**k it, while you're at it include the whole public sector (except traffic wardens and MPs). And let all of the above off any speeding tickets, parking fines and drink-driving offences. You just listed a long line of jobs that don't involve being deployed overseas.
What about the Foreign Office?
Anyway, what has being deployed overseas got to do with it?
They could meet their spouse in the UK whilst he/she has a valid visa, get married, visa expires and then he/she becomes an illegal immigrant.
Because if they have child care commitments, and they are posted on the other side of the world that poses significant problems.
If they are posted in the next town it still poses a significant problem. The spouse is an illegal immigrant (unless posted to a country where he/she can live legally).
It is very unfortunate but the job comes first. The person in question has a difficult decision to make - career or family.
So you think a serving soldier deployed to say Afghanistan, can, in the middle of his tour, just say to his commanding officer "sorry boss, this career isn't working out for me, I'll stay until the end of the week and then I'm off"?
Some people have got no fucking idea what so ever...
I have some idea. This should've all been sorted before being deployed to Afghanistan, Germany or even the UK.
The last thing any CO wants in their unit is someone who isn't able to focus on his or her job. They are a liability.
By all means offer assistance but if, after all options have been exhausted, the spouse is deemed an illegal immigrant, then deportation is the only course left.
Nice to see such support for the Armed Forces Community
What makes a member of the Armed Forces any different to someone who works at Argos who has married someone who is deemed an illegal immigrant?
Ask Javid, he knows the difference.
I asked you.
People who put their lives on the line for their country are owed a special debt by the country.
sorry..as a mixed heritage army brat..
I barely believe anything these days regarding 'fought for our country'-
the fighting has been about greed,control and oil
I suppose my way of thinking is I dont believe I would ever join up/nor follow orders that go against my own morality...if I really felt that strongly about some huge issue, I'd not make it a career, I wouldnt expect my children to 'follow' in my footsteps.
As I say, my father has served throughout the world,but there are millions of people who can visit all over the world without the need to be backed by government/religious bodies.
in this day and age, I think a miss world might have more sincerity when she says she wants 'to change the world'
We have a full volunteer army, those who join do so in the knowledge that they can be sent into harms way by our democratically elected leaders.
I was perfectly happy with a Forces Rail Card. But back then we were persona non grata!
Well if you had one of those you must have forgotten quite a lot to think people can leave the military at the drop of a hat, half way through a tour. "I didn't forget that. I do remember that you needed your OC's permission to get married and you were responsible for any family problems you brought upon yourself. | |||
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