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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

If you google Rettendon murders you’ll find loads of info on it

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

I doubt there is much truth in them...

They are writen by ex drug dealers.

People hardly known for their honesty...

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"I doubt there is much truth in them...

They are writen by ex drug dealers.

People hardly known for their honesty..."

Oh rite ok is it still spoken about now in Essex ? X

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"If you google Rettendon murders you’ll find loads of info on it"

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? "

Yep, 100% true

Didn't you know that all us Essex folk are drug dealing head gangsters

And yes we all own sawn off shotguns

Ask Sean Bean, he'll tell ya and you can't get more Essex than him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*Cokeheaded*

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

Yep, 100% true

Didn't you know that all us Essex folk are drug dealing head gangsters

And yes we all own sawn off shotguns

Ask Sean Bean, he'll tell ya and you can't get more Essex than him

Ooo sorry I asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

Yep, 100% true

Didn't you know that all us Essex folk are drug dealing head gangsters

And yes we all own sawn off shotguns

Ask Sean Bean, he'll tell ya and you can't get more Essex than him

Ooo sorry I asked "

Was only joking fella

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

Ok cool

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? "

yes it's about Carlton leach.. if i remember rightly.. it's adapted from his autobiography.. muscle...

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

Oh cool is it still spoken about in Essex the murders ?

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

It's a loose adaptation of real life events.

And No, it's not really spoken about. Except by the Essex wideboy gangster wannabes who drive their Ford Focus down the sea front.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Based on a true story. Some of it happened some of it is fabricated/elaborated.

Loads of theories to be found on the Range Rover murders.

Decent film though.

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

There must be people in Essex that remmber the guys shot from clubs or pubs I'd imagine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, all of them.

They'll all tell you they knew them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember Tony Tucker running the doors at Club UK & Bagleys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See what I mean

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"I remember Tony Tucker running the doors at Club UK & Bagleys."

Oh cool did you meet him

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"I remember Tony Tucker running the doors at Club UK & Bagleys.

Oh cool did you meet him "

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

Suppose knowone will ever know the full story

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Suppose knowone will ever know the full story "

Most people don't care...

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"Suppose knowone will ever know the full story

Most people don't care..."

Yeah I can imagine must be hard though for there kids that are grown up now

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? "

Yes it's almost true I knew Tony Tucker & Pat Tate, everyone still thinks the police shot them & framed the other guys.

Like the police in Canningtown some are worse than the criminals, I respect an old school villian & a honest copper but bent coppers deserve all the shit they get because nobody trusts them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always amazes me how gangstee/criminals are glamourised in movies.

Honour amongst thieves and all that? Dubious!!

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

" Always amazes me how gangstee/criminals are glamourised in movies.

Honour amongst thieves and all that? Dubious!!"

John run clubs in West Ham & met them on several occasions usually the Railway in Basildon, they might not have been people you'd take home to meet your mum but they were loyal to their friends.

Unless you lived in a area ruled by the gun you would never fully understand why local people trusted local firms over the police.

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

Yes it's almost true I knew Tony Tucker & Pat Tate, everyone still thinks the police shot them & framed the other guys.

Like the police in Canningtown some are worse than the criminals, I respect an old school villian & a honest copper but bent coppers deserve all the shit they get because nobody trusts them."

Oh wow what was Tony & Pat really like ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've come close to having that pizza moment when someone's fucked up my order

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"I've come close to having that pizza moment when someone's fucked up my order

Lol

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

Yes it's almost true I knew Tony Tucker & Pat Tate, everyone still thinks the police shot them & framed the other guys.

Like the police in Canningtown some are worse than the criminals, I respect an old school villian & a honest copper but bent coppers deserve all the shit they get because nobody trusts them.

Oh wow what was Tony & Pat really like ? "

It was better to be friendly with them than not be friendly with them lol, before a drink they were sort of ok but once they started drinking you made a quick exit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? "

As far as I know, the book and also the film were both done with Carlton Leach's involvement and therefore quite accurate. Also fairly sure Tucker's club was where Leah Betts died, who's Dad was a police chief plus they were a massive pain in the police's behind. All of that kind of supports the claim further up that they were done over by the police. But then again they made a LOT of enemies. Read quite a bit that states that they were complete arseholes, very nasty and dont really deserve the kind of anti-hero stuff which is portrayed. That said, my ex's sister is portrayed in "Cass" about Cass Pennant as she knew him really well and says he IS a lovely guy.

There is a website where you can view the morgue photos and listen to Tony's last voicemails. Creepy. It's also interesting to try and follow what happened to their Range Rover. It is allegedly still out there!

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By *ogNMuseCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

"It's also interesting to try and follow what happened to their Range Rover. It is allegedly still out there! "

I saw it on Ebay a few years ago, not sure why anyone would want to own it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's also interesting to try and follow what happened to their Range Rover. It is allegedly still out there!

I saw it on Ebay a few years ago, not sure why anyone would want to own it

Oh I would?! Well in theory I would. Morbid curiosity I guess? I read somewhere someone said they can’t get rid of the smell! ??????

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

It was better to be friendly with them than not be friendly with them lol, before a drink they were sort of ok but once they started drinking you made a quick exit. "

Yet in a post above you state

"Unless you lived in a area ruled by the gun you would never fully understand why local people trusted local firms over the police."

You must live in/ visit some pretty dire places if you prefer drug taking criminals that would beat you up as soon as look at you over the local police...

Because everybody knows most police officers would risk losing their jobs, pensions and doing jail time to get one over local law abiding people...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There have bern a number of films that link to the murders.

If you want to watch films that feature just pure violence these are worth it.

I'm not a film critic or have a desire to be violent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was better to be friendly with them than not be friendly with them lol, before a drink they were sort of ok but once they started drinking you made a quick exit.

Yet in a post above you state

"Unless you lived in a area ruled by the gun you would never fully understand why local people trusted local firms over the police."

You must live in/ visit some pretty dire places if you prefer drug taking criminals that would beat you up as soon as look at you over the local police...

Because everybody knows most police officers would risk losing their jobs, pensions and doing jail time to get one over local law abiding people...

There’s a certain song still sung in south London about an gentleman who was convicted of doing something to bent coppers, I don’t want to say anymore than that as I don’t want to get banned but these people dont sing songs for no reason. The filth are called that for a reason and in my experience many more of them than you would think are at the very best, forgetful at convenient moments.

No one i know really seems to care about those murders, they were a long time ago now and the kids of today seem more interested in reality tv. They were decent enough films tho. Unfortunately lots of the old land marks in the films have gone now. I think they call it progression but I quite liked some of the old pubs, sad times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know the song, Millwall still sing about Harry.

Poor show really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that the one you meant?

Because they weren't bent coppers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm from Essex....

Just wanted to throw that in their

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t agree with it, I’m just saying that people feel this way for a reason, in the end if you push a people down enough with corruption and not being representative then in the end they turn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well you need to do your homework about Harry Roberts because he didn't target bent coppers he indiscriminately shot dead 3 (well 2 actually, his mate did the other one) coppers who approached him when he was parked up in his van.

Still, them nasty police picking on innocent motorists eh?

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

"I'm from Essex....

Just wanted to throw that in their

Oh cool do you find it's ever spoken about

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

A clothes shop in the early 80's gets burgled & £2000 worth of gear gets nicked, the police go to investigate, when they catch the guys they are done for stealing £21,000 worth of clobber.

A local copper was punting the clothes out from his own home for him & his friends so this is just one example of how they weren't much different to the gangs, a lot of coppers in the East End of London were on the take & regularly taking bribes for info & looking after local criminals.

A few of my friends got off on offenses because they had so much on the coppers crooked activities that they couldn't take the chance of arresting them.

When it gets that bad you lose respect in the police, to become a successful criminal you simply gained info (insurance) on a few bent coppers then it was plain sailing unless you overstepped the mark by hurting or killing people.

Honest coppers were respected by the gangs but the bent one's were no better than nonces in the eyes of everyone.

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By *andys manMan
over a year ago

colchester

Im also from essex, just thought id throw that in the mix as well, ask me anything you want about the Rettingdon murders but i k ow fk all about it lol.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

I am also from Essex...

I use to drive past the end of the track to work everyday.

I moved jobs just before it happened but noticed that not long after they put gates up across the lane.

I would imagine it was to stop people driving down there to have a look...

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

Oh ok cool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

I’ve seen these pics on the internet

Quite gruesome

I’m surprised they have been allowed to stay

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

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By *r big 400Man
over a year ago

hull

Yer it's a true storey have you seen num 2 and 3

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn’t this about the three guys found in a Range Rover murdered in Essex

Think one of them was the drug dealer that provided drugs to Leah Betts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

I’ve seen these pics on the internet

Quite gruesome

I’m surprised they have been allowed to stay "

I know this is a sensible and serious conversation but Jesus Christ, your bottom’s lovely.

And yes, the pics - of the bodies, not your bottom - are nasty! The ones in the film ROTFS are VERY accurate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn’t this about the three guys found in a Range Rover murdered in Essex

Think one of them was the drug dealer that provided drugs to Leah Betts"

Yes it was. I don’t think he directly was the dealer (Tony Tucker) but it was his club so likely connected

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Yer it's a true storey have you seen num 2 and 3 "

True as can be, when told by a criminal, who probably likes to believe his own hype...

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By *ackhammerJay30 OP Man
over a year ago

walsall /Aldridge

It's a crazy story does people still talk about it in Essex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn’t this about the three guys found in a Range Rover murdered in Essex

Think one of them was the drug dealer that provided drugs to Leah Betts

Yes it was. I don’t think he directly was the dealer (Tony Tucker) but it was his club so likely connected "

Yeh thought so it all kicked off when we moved back from Leigh on sea

I think the lane hw was shot in was 1/2 a mile from where we were buying a house

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ??

Yep, 100% true

Didn't you know that all us Essex folk are drug dealing head gangsters

And yes we all own sawn off shotguns

Ask Sean Bean, he'll tell ya and you can't get more Essex than him

and your all orange with fur and bling

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"It's a crazy story does people still talk about it in Essex "

No, most people aren't interested in what happened to some low life drug dealers 20 something years ago...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? "
yeah Pat Tate & Tony tucker Range Rover murders been some time ago now the car was on eBay at some point too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi just been watching Rise of the Footsoilder is that a true story ?? yeah Pat Tate & Tony tucker Range Rover murders been some time ago now the car was on eBay at some point too."

Good little runner, small holes in upholstery, faint smell of illegal substances, serious offers only please!

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