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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ?

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By *rozacMan
over a year ago

london

It was the McCaans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Additional to the OP, on the same day, the Pentagon was also allegedly hit by a plane.

No evidence of the plane exists, plus there is video footage of the damage to the building with the same model aircraft superimposed over it. The damaged area is not big enough to have been caused by the plane.

I was once offered £1000 if I could find a photograph of the plane hitting the Pentagon by a conspiracy theorist.

You would have thought if the plane existed, someone would have got a photo, even if the cctv covering the area had suspiciously been turned off.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you get a conspiracy theory book for Christmas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did you get a conspiracy theory book for Christmas?"

But was it really Christmas, or is Christmas just a conspiracy?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Additional to the OP, on the same day, the Pentagon was also allegedly hit by a plane.

No evidence of the plane exists, plus there is video footage of the damage to the building with the same model aircraft superimposed over it. The damaged area is not big enough to have been caused by the plane.

I was once offered £1000 if I could find a photograph of the plane hitting the Pentagon by a conspiracy theorist.

You would have thought if the plane existed, someone would have got a photo, even if the cctv covering the area had suspiciously been turned off."

Yes I agree...also leading up to 9-11 the bush administration was discovered to have lost trillions of American taxpaying citizens dollars that they couldn't account for. Congress set up an audit investigation to investigate the missing trillions. The two audit offices set up to investigate the Bush administration were located in the Pentagon which took the direct impact of the the alleged plane hitting it.

The second audit office was located in world trade centre seven. This building also collapsed with the two trade centres even though no plane hit it.

9-11 was very helpful for the Bush administration for the following reasons.

1/ It destroyed all evidence being gathered by the auditors.

2/ It gave them the excuse to begin a war in Iraq for oil which continued through Afghanistan (No oil/heroin) Libya and still ongoing in Syria today.

3/ It allowed Bush and his globalists that followed after to impose anti terror laws not to protect us but to take away our civil liberties, and freedoms and privacies and impose a George Orwell state on a global scale of spying on its citizens. The very next day after 9-11 Bush and his fellow globalists imposed the draconian fascist totalitarian patriot act allowing citizens to be arrested without charge or trial, Detained indefinatley. Refused access to the right of a lawyer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?"

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. "

Where did I suggest that? I simply asked a question.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Are there government websites where these reports are published?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ? "

How many more "real" investigations would it to to make you happy?

I'm guessing as many as it took before one agreed with your belief.....

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Most conspirqcy theories are stupid; the 9/11 one is no exception.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The report I saw claimed that the towers were both very poorly designed/ constructed and did not have the strength to withstand the damage being hit by the planes. They collapsed like a pack of cards due to this. Terrorists flew the planes, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise. The designers were arrogant, wanting the tallest buildings and cut corners. Only 1 of the towers were even insured.

I don't hold with a conspiracy theory.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved."

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ?

How many more "real" investigations would it to to make you happy?

I'm guessing as many as it took before one agreed with your belief.....

"
one investigation as it stands the only investigation is a whitewash cover up by Bushes Nist report friends. The families victims demanded a real investigation based upon some of the facts I have highlighted in this post but the Obama administration refused them.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser. "

Even so, very many people would have to have known it was a conspiracy. Seventeen years later how is that not one has blabbed?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser. "

That's not unusual in war time in fact even now people sign the official secrets act in this country. I don't see how that or the American equivalent could cover everyone involved in 9/11.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ?

How many more "real" investigations would it to to make you happy?

I'm guessing as many as it took before one agreed with your belief.....

one investigation as it stands the only investigation is a whitewash cover up by Bushes Nist report friends. The families victims demanded a real investigation based upon some of the facts I have highlighted in this post but the Obama administration refused them. "

My belief is not a conspiracy it is based upon the findings and the facts again highlighted in my post which I have based upon the findings of hundreds of real academic professional independent ( non government funded) scientists, architects and engineers that al demand a real investigation as the only in vestigation done has now been proven to have been a cover up and a lie.

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By *iker BullMan
over a year ago

leeds


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. "
not fact at all,what is fact tho is the aluminium melted,then exploded when drenched in water from the fire extinguisher in the buildings,with the equivalent of thousands of pounds of tnt.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

One thing I don't get. If it was a conspiracy to start a war with Iraq why did none of the supposed hijackers have any connection with Iraq.

It's a bit of a shit plan if you can't even plant any evidence implicating the people you are trying to frame.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

The termite thing is a joke.

Termite even military grade is just aluminum and rust dust. There would be plenty of it in the world trade center.

If it was used as the method to bring down the towers, then there would be no thermite left, it burns too hot to be put out by sprinkers and would have burnt itself out

I think there are questions to ask, but i think the main question is what hit the pentagon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. "

Proven facts by whom?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser.

That's not unusual in war time in fact even now people sign the official secrets act in this country. I don't see how that or the American equivalent could cover everyone involved in 9/11. "

9-11 was used for wartime or rather to create a war in the middle east starting with Iraq. In order to start a war the warmongers first have to get backing by by public sympathetic support and congress what better way to get this by making people fear they are in danger from terrorism by killing a few thousand of there own citizens to accomplish there agenda of starting a war.

you ackhowledge thousands of people could been non the wiser in making parts to be used to make an atomic bomb. The number of people it would take to manufacture military grade thermite in a lab and place military grade thermite explosives inside the tower, well instead of thousands it would only take less than a hundred people. On the run up to 9-11 it has been established that there were lots of comings and goings in the early hours to the towers perhaps these were the bomb placers. It has also been established that George Bushes family member was the person in charge of the twin towers security.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing I don't get. If it was a conspiracy to start a war with Iraq why did none of the supposed hijackers have any connection with Iraq.

It's a bit of a shit plan if you can't even plant any evidence implicating the people you are trying to frame. "

They had brown skin didn't they? Isn't that enough?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser.

That's not unusual in war time in fact even now people sign the official secrets act in this country. I don't see how that or the American equivalent could cover everyone involved in 9/11.

9-11 was used for wartime or rather to create a war in the middle east starting with Iraq. In order to start a war the warmongers first have to get backing by by public sympathetic support and congress what better way to get this by making people fear they are in danger from terrorism by killing a few thousand of there own citizens to accomplish there agenda of starting a war.

you ackhowledge thousands of people could been non the wiser in making parts to be used to make an atomic bomb. The number of people it would take to manufacture military grade thermite in a lab and place military grade thermite explosives inside the tower, well instead of thousands it would only take less than a hundred people. On the run up to 9-11 it has been established that there were lots of comings and goings in the early hours to the towers perhaps these were the bomb placers. It has also been established that George Bushes family member was the person in charge of the twin towers security.

"

Could you tell me why, if the motive was to start a war with Iraq, there was no evidence that Iraq had anything to do with it?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Additional to the OP, on the same day, the Pentagon was also allegedly hit by a plane.

No evidence of the plane exists, plus there is video footage of the damage to the building with the same model aircraft superimposed over it. The damaged area is not big enough to have been caused by the plane.

I was once offered £1000 if I could find a photograph of the plane hitting the Pentagon by a conspiracy theorist.

You would have thought if the plane existed, someone would have got a photo, even if the cctv covering the area had suspiciously been turned off.

Yes I agree...also leading up to 9-11 the bush administration was discovered to have lost trillions of American taxpaying citizens dollars that they couldn't account for. Congress set up an audit investigation to investigate the missing trillions. The two audit offices set up to investigate the Bush administration were located in the Pentagon which took the direct impact of the the alleged plane hitting it.

The second audit office was located in world trade centre seven. This building also collapsed with the two trade centres even though no plane hit it.

9-11 was very helpful for the Bush administration for the following reasons.

1/ It destroyed all evidence being gathered by the auditors.

2/ It gave them the excuse to begin a war in Iraq for oil which continued through Afghanistan (No oil/heroin) Libya and still ongoing in Syria today.

3/ It allowed Bush and his globalists that followed after to impose anti terror laws not to protect us but to take away our civil liberties, and freedoms and privacies and impose a George Orwell state on a global scale of spying on its citizens. The very next day after 9-11 Bush and his fellow globalists imposed the draconian fascist totalitarian patriot act allowing citizens to be arrested without charge or trial, Detained indefinatley. Refused access to the right of a lawyer.

"

So the Bush administration lost "trillions" of dollars.

Two offices were set up to investigate it.

The Bush administration then planned and executed the 9-11 attack to destroy the offices and cover it up.

All in a tad over 8 months.

Phew! That is some going.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The thing about all this evidence people point to is it's come from second, maybe third sources.

One person says X won't burn at y degrees. Someone else comes along and says it will if...

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"Additional to the OP, on the same day, the Pentagon was also allegedly hit by a plane.

No evidence of the plane exists, plus there is video footage of the damage to the building with the same model aircraft superimposed over it. The damaged area is not big enough to have been caused by the plane.

I was once offered £1000 if I could find a photograph of the plane hitting the Pentagon by a conspiracy theorist.

You would have thought if the plane existed, someone would have got a photo, even if the cctv covering the area had suspiciously been turned off.

Yes I agree...also leading up to 9-11 the bush administration was discovered to have lost trillions of American taxpaying citizens dollars that they couldn't account for. Congress set up an audit investigation to investigate the missing trillions. The two audit offices set up to investigate the Bush administration were located in the Pentagon which took the direct impact of the the alleged plane hitting it.

The second audit office was located in world trade centre seven. This building also collapsed with the two trade centres even though no plane hit it.

9-11 was very helpful for the Bush administration for the following reasons.

1/ It destroyed all evidence being gathered by the auditors.

2/ It gave them the excuse to begin a war in Iraq for oil which continued through Afghanistan (No oil/heroin) Libya and still ongoing in Syria today.

3/ It allowed Bush and his globalists that followed after to impose anti terror laws not to protect us but to take away our civil liberties, and freedoms and privacies and impose a George Orwell state on a global scale of spying on its citizens. The very next day after 9-11 Bush and his fellow globalists imposed the draconian fascist totalitarian patriot act allowing citizens to be arrested without charge or trial, Detained indefinatley. Refused access to the right of a lawyer.

So the Bush administration lost "trillions" of dollars.

Two offices were set up to investigate it.

The Bush administration then planned and executed the 9-11 attack to destroy the offices and cover it up.

All in a tad over 8 months.

Phew! That is some going. "

And apparently they didn't care that they would lose even more political kudos by failing to protect the country from a terrorist attack that they ever would by some dodgy accounting.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved.

When America developed atomic bombs dropped on Japan thousands of workers were employed in factories across America to make the parts, The workers had to sign gaggin orders with threat of imprisonment and fines should they discover what the parts they were making were to be used for. The reality is many of the workers didn't even know what they were making and for what purpose the part they were making was to be used for. So its possible thousands can be involved and be none the wiser.

That's not unusual in war time in fact even now people sign the official secrets act in this country. I don't see how that or the American equivalent could cover everyone involved in 9/11.

9-11 was used for wartime or rather to create a war in the middle east starting with Iraq. In order to start a war the warmongers first have to get backing by by public sympathetic support and congress what better way to get this by making people fear they are in danger from terrorism by killing a few thousand of there own citizens to accomplish there agenda of starting a war.

you ackhowledge thousands of people could been non the wiser in making parts to be used to make an atomic bomb. The number of people it would take to manufacture military grade thermite in a lab and place military grade thermite explosives inside the tower, well instead of thousands it would only take less than a hundred people. On the run up to 9-11 it has been established that there were lots of comings and goings in the early hours to the towers perhaps these were the bomb placers. It has also been established that George Bushes family member was the person in charge of the twin towers security.

"

I didn't acknowledge that thousands of people could be none the wiser. I said it isn't unusual for people to have to sign the official secrets act. After the event they would have known or at least suspected.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

I love conspiracy theorists. In most cases the theories generate themselves from choosing not to accept some facts. In other cases theories fall out of unexplained gaps. However many often require a large dose of lithium to make sense of. (Sorry....let the abuse come....but don't waste too much effort with it as I won't revisit this forum topic and read the fallout.)

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Well here we have an average single guy who now reveals himself as a conspiracy theorist.

Fabicide I think they call it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well here we have an average single guy who now reveals himself as a conspiracy theorist.

Fabicide I think they call it... "

Haha thought the same !

Op you should rename yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. But if can melt aluminium.

Melted aluminium (which planes are mostly made out of) mixed with water can create a big explosion. That's more than likely what the explosion were before the towers fell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's been proven by agent molder and skully that the aliens that they have in area 51 escaped to spread there message that man didn't land on the moon.They met up with a Elvis and Adolf Hitler and shot a masisive laser beam and boommmmmmm.

The end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did anyone mentioned the third tower yet?

The 47-storey third tower, known as Tower Seven, that hasn't been hit by a plane but due to a fire collapsed as well seven hours after the twin towers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While I am thinking about it, Hulu released a good tvshow tracing the rising threat of al-Qaida in the late '90s and how it leads to the 9/11...

With the sublime Tahar Rahim (the actor of a prophet, for those who have seen this masterpiece)

The show is called 'The Looming Tower' and it is on amazon prime video.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are there government websites where these reports are published? "

Obviously there wont be if the government in question are the perpetrators of the crime and then that crime covered up buried and protected by the next incoming administration. Both the Bush administration and the incoming Obama administration all had the same agenda which is the creation of a one world government. Both Blair and Cameron had the same agenda so you see both America and the UK irrespective of being opposing political parties within their nations are all members of the same political group which is the globalists group with one goal in the creation of a one world government,

In terms of publications I would draw you to various intellectual tv documentaries such as 9-11 loose change. Everything is a rich mans trick and the Clintons cash which I believe can still be viewed and watched on you tube. The internet is the last bastion of researching seeking and finding the truth as opposed to globalist owned main stream news propaganda news stations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ? "

Maybe it's about time the families didn't have to put up with these ridiculous, delusional, below average IQ, keyboard warriors banging on about conspiracy theories, based on "facts" they read on the internet.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"Are there government websites where these reports are published?

Obviously there wont be if the government in question are the perpetrators of the crime and then that crime covered up buried and protected by the next incoming administration. Both the Bush administration and the incoming Obama administration all had the same agenda which is the creation of a one world government. Both Blair and Cameron had the same agenda so you see both America and the UK irrespective of being opposing political parties within their nations are all members of the same political group which is the globalists group with one goal in the creation of a one world government,

In terms of publications I would draw you to various intellectual tv documentaries such as 9-11 loose change. Everything is a rich mans trick and the Clintons cash which I believe can still be viewed and watched on you tube. The internet is the last bastion of researching seeking and finding the truth as opposed to globalist owned main stream news propaganda news stations.

"

Are they all shape shifting lizards?

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over a year ago


"Did you get a conspiracy theory book for Christmas?"

No I watched a tv documentary called 9-11 loose change. You should watch it sometime it might expand your mind a little and make you question things a bit more instead of believing everything you are told by a pretty woman newcaster reading of an auto que making accusations without any evidence of proof to back up them accusations just on her word. Free your mind question things more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The foil is strong in this one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Larry silverstein, the man who owned the twin towers who was always on sight every single morning just so happened not to show up that day, his son who was due in a meeting that morning also didnt show up, his daughter who was also due to be there that day didnt show, when the towers fell they fell in a controlled way complete with the pops blasting from the sides which every demolition expert will tell you is exactly what happens in a controlled implosion and fell at the speed of a free fall and not a slow fall like it would have done if the floors were crashing on top of eachother, amongst the rubble you can clearly see the steel rods had been pre cut at the angle required to cause them to fail, within hours of the towers falling big trucks took away the steel rods and sold them to china as scrap metal as the rods would have shown evidence of being tampered with and explosive residue making it obvious of an inside job, the bbc news reported live that building 7 had fallen down even though you could clearly still see building 7 still in the background of the report and didnt fall for another 15mins and when it did fall it also fell in a controlled way, amongst the rubble emergency services struggled to find a whole desk or a phone or a chair as everything was just dust and rubble but by some miracle they told us that a passport was found and that passport just so happened to belong to the terrorist, cctv footage later came out of the terrorists boarding the plane but for some reason the time date and location were all missing from the corner which all airport security must have and is something that must be manually removed meaning the footage could be from anywhere and anytime.

Im not really into conspiracy theories but this all adds up to one big coincidence.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"Did you get a conspiracy theory book for Christmas?

instead of believing everything you are told by a pretty woman newcaster reading of an auto que "

As opposed to believing stuff we are told by a conspiracy monger on a swingers site?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some fundamentalist lunatics hijacked some planes, crashed them into iconic American sites (barring the one that wobbled) and people died needlessly and we have been fighting a confusing ‘war’ ever since.

Does that clear it up sufficiently?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"Did you get a conspiracy theory book for Christmas?

No I watched a tv documentary called 9-11 loose change. You should watch it sometime it might expand your mind a little and make you question things a bit more instead of believing everything you are told by a pretty woman newcaster reading of an auto que making accusations without any evidence of proof to back up them accusations just on her word. Free your mind question things more "

I love how conspiracy theorists always bang on about opening your mind, whilst keeping their own mind closed to the most basic logic that shows why their conspiracy is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Coal alone wont burn hot enough to melt iron yet is used in forges.

The whole "jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough" argument is stupid as it was just an accelerant and helped create conditions hot enough for the welded floor truss to become soft enough to allow a collapse and once one floor went the rest followed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If there is any conspiracy cover up it is the act of building very high towers from steel and aluminium, the corrosion of the 2 making thermite, and the height giving strong enough air current to turn any fire into a furnace.

May possibly be bad for survival of its occupants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh and building them over tube trains may be bad for other buildings also built on the tunnel....

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By *octor DeleriumMan
over a year ago

Wellingborough


"It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

"

Given that thermite can be produced using quite a number of materials e.g. zinc, silicon, boron, aluminium, magnesium and titanium, and the oxidiser component can be bismuth, iron oxide, manganese oxide, lead oxide, copper oxide, chromium oxide etc., and that US use thermite welding (Goldschmidt process) as the preferred method to electrically connect grounding conductors and their inter-connects (it’s actually the only means of bonding copper to galvanised cable), it’s hardly surprising that traces of thermite compounds might be found in the debris of two 411 and 413 m buildings.

2600 debris artefacts, including steel structures etc. were in Hangar 17 at JFK airport.

Under the Port Authority program (2010 2016) the items were given out to 1,585 fire and police departments, museums, municipalities and organizations.

Most of the requests came from the tri-state area and California.

Among the artifacts were 1,944 pieces of steel from 6" to 36 feet in length.

New York (291), New Jersey (271) and California (65) received the largest number of artifacts.

At least 10 countries, including China, Russia, England and Canada also received pieces of the World Trade Center or other relics from Ground Zero.

Further reading:

Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation

T W Eagar, C Musso. JOM, 53 (12) (2001), pp. 8-11.

The Role of Metallurgy in the NIST Investigation of the World Trade Center Towers Collapse

W. Banovic, T. Foecke, W.E. Luecke, J.D. McColskey, and C.N. McCowan, T.A. Siewert, F.W. Gayle. JOM, Vol. 59 (11) p. 22-30

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Some fundamentalist lunatics hijacked some planes, crashed them into iconic American sites (barring the one that wobbled) and people died needlessly and we have been fighting a confusing ‘war’ ever since.

Does that clear it up sufficiently? "

Nailed it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My problem with conspiracy theories is the number of people who would need to be complicit in the conspiracy. Including the emergency service phone room staff who took very distressing calls from people on the plane's.

A lot of the "evidence" makes for very credible reading until you consider how many people would need to be involved."
.

Let's say one of them came forward with they're story of what they did,who ordered it and how they did it.... Would you believe them or just say oh it's another nut job conspiracist?.

I know what your saying about numbers involved but in this day and age it really is irrelevant due to the sheer numbers of people who claim to have been part of any conspiracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know one fact about this that I know is 100% true

I had nothing to do with it!!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I think the USA government was involved in an act of destruction with the twin towers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think the USA government was involved in an act of destruction with the twin towers. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was an inside job, to justify war.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ? "

I agree with this

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"It was an inside job, to justify war."

More likely an outside job, mate. Who wanted to be on the inside?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one fact about this that I know is 100% true

I had nothing to do with it!!"
.

That's what they all say

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some fundamentalist lunatics hijacked some planes, crashed them into iconic American sites (barring the one that wobbled) and people died needlessly and we have been fighting a confusing ‘war’ ever since.

Does that clear it up sufficiently?

Nailed it....."
Some Funamental terrorists you state are you reffereing to the central intelligence agency as what also emerged was some of the hijackers were trained by the CIA prior to the attack. Also on the fundamental extremist muslims front. its established that prior to carrying out the attack these so called fundamentalists were out drinking and whoring if theu were fundamentalist Islamic extremists as alleged they wouldn't be doing this as it is against there ideological belief and also a crime under Islamic sharia law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was an inside job, to justify war.

More likely an outside job, mate. Who wanted to be on the inside? "
Yes, more of a outside one, would be too dangerous to be inside.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. not fact at all,what is fact tho is the aluminium melted,then exploded when drenched in water from the fire extinguisher in the buildings,with the equivalent of thousands of pounds of tnt."

Nope its since been proven that is incorrect and that the only explosive particle that can reach high enough temperature to melt and snap the steel structure was military grade thermite , Going along with your opinion on the aluminium errr why then was military grade thermite particles found in the dust debri. Military grade thermite is used by demolition experts specifically placed at weakened structural points and the explosion deronated at ground level to blow away the ground floor allowing the floors above to collapse down on themselves which is known as free fall which can only be achieved by a controlled demolition job. Of your theory was true the buidings woudnt have free fell they would have just fallen over. Architects scientists and engineers also state that many buildings in time have caught fire and such fires have reached higher temperatures than the twin towers but still remained upright. To date the only building that have collapsed from fire is suspiciously the twin towers,

Also your explanation doesn't account for world trade centre seven that also collapsed free fell the same as the two twin towers as no plane containing aluminium struck that building, yet still it collapsed ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. not fact at all,what is fact tho is the aluminium melted,then exploded when drenched in water from the fire extinguisher in the buildings,with the equivalent of thousands of pounds of tnt.

Nope its since been proven that is incorrect and that the only explosive particle that can reach high enough temperature to melt and snap the steel structure was military grade thermite , Going along with your opinion on the aluminium errr why then was military grade thermite particles found in the dust debri. Military grade thermite is used by demolition experts specifically placed at weakened structural points and the explosion deronated at ground level to blow away the ground floor allowing the floors above to collapse down on themselves which is known as free fall which can only be achieved by a controlled demolition job. Of your theory was true the buidings woudnt have free fell they would have just fallen over. Architects scientists and engineers also state that many buildings in time have caught fire and such fires have reached higher temperatures than the twin towers but still remained upright. To date the only building that have collapsed from fire is suspiciously the twin towers,

Also your explanation doesn't account for world trade centre seven that also collapsed free fell the same as the two twin towers as no plane containing aluminium struck that building, yet still it collapsed ? "

i wasn't going to comment but your line about 'the only building that have collapsed etc is the twin towers is false, its wrong to say it any serving or retired member of the fire service will tell you that its false..

the manual of 'firemanship' will tell you, the Institute of Fire Engineers will tell you and sadly many coroners reports will also tell you of the effects of applied heat to structural steelwork..

We lost a guy in London at a job in 93 were the primary cause of collapse was down to the structural steel holding the building up being compromised beyond the point were it was able to do its job..

am not getting involved in your conspiracy theories but you do not know what your talking about in relation to this basic fact which is taught to trainees in all fire services..

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By *ame-room-no-swapCouple
over a year ago

Taunton

It's established , proven, FACT that Lord Lucan and Elvis smuggled Shergar up into the twin towers and set fire to him, causing the collapse of both towers.

And also wrecked a few Acca's with Ladbrokes as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If all the evidence has been destroyed and any persons involved are subject to a secrecy clause, what's to investigate?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Steel melts at about 1370 degrees centigrade. A candle can burn at 1400 degrees centigrade (at the blue part of the flame). Thought I’d add that fact in. For people who collect astonished looks.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. not fact at all,what is fact tho is the aluminium melted,then exploded when drenched in water from the fire extinguisher in the buildings,with the equivalent of thousands of pounds of tnt.

Nope its since been proven that is incorrect and that the only explosive particle that can reach high enough temperature to melt and snap the steel structure was military grade thermite , Going along with your opinion on the aluminium errr why then was military grade thermite particles found in the dust debri. Military grade thermite is used by demolition experts specifically placed at weakened structural points and the explosion deronated at ground level to blow away the ground floor allowing the floors above to collapse down on themselves which is known as free fall which can only be achieved by a controlled demolition job. Of your theory was true the buidings woudnt have free fell they would have just fallen over. Architects scientists and engineers also state that many buildings in time have caught fire and such fires have reached higher temperatures than the twin towers but still remained upright. To date the only building that have collapsed from fire is suspiciously the twin towers,

Also your explanation doesn't account for world trade centre seven that also collapsed free fell the same as the two twin towers as no plane containing aluminium struck that building, yet still it collapsed ? "

Complete nonsense.

As seen on god knows how many video's, the towers both collapsed from the top down.

Not a single one shows the ground floor being blown away first.

Why? Simples, because it didn't.

As for the traces, and I emphasise the word "traces" of Thermalite found, it is easily explained by a previous poster that Thermalite was used in the construction of the towers.

So please explain this.

How did the Bush administration blow trillions of dollars, get found out, begin to be investigated in two offices, plan the attack on the towers, recruit thousands of co-conspirators including foreign nationals, and execute the attack? All of that in in just over 8 months?

Sorry but your theory is about as watertight as a colander.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

You don't need as much explosive material with a missile (or plane) strike as with a fixed bomb to bring a building down. The momentum of hundreds of tonnes of metal impacting at 400 mph will cause irreparable damage to any building.

But of course any internet cowboy "expert" may choose to only go on what they can research in publically accessible material through the net and then selectively choose what to use and what to ignore...not what those of us may know from years of experience when professionally dealing with projectiles and warheads.

As a pointer to the destructive power of an aircraft, go and take a look at the large swathe carved at Lockerbie from a partially destroyed aircraft falling.....and then consider that the 9/11 planes were in controlled level flight.

And when you see the Lockerbie site, please leave a wreath and observe a moment of respect for the victims.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It was a September morning when America was tricked.By sick men with strict plans to create conflict and get rich by any means even if it meant death

For innocent civilians, the stage was set.

For a New American Century where world domination is motivation enough for the towers cremation complete obliteration, for all to see a mass public execution on live tv Programmed to strike fear in the young and old Who naively trade freedom for government control

Thinking the system will keep ‘em safe from terror But truth is they’re the killers and the pallbearers, The masters of deception are running the globe They lack souls sold our sons and daughters for black gold In full attack mode

It’s the final push What the Reichstag was for Hitler 9/11 was for Bush.

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By *ilthyStrumpetCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge

There will never be a formal investigation. It's just another poorly kept government secret.

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over a year ago


"Is the concept of conspiracy, a conspiracy if it's own?

lol Nice try but everything I have stated isn't conspiracy. Its established proven fact, that has since come to light after the Nist report concluded. not fact at all,what is fact tho is the aluminium melted,then exploded when drenched in water from the fire extinguisher in the buildings,with the equivalent of thousands of pounds of tnt.

Nope its since been proven that is incorrect and that the only explosive particle that can reach high enough temperature to melt and snap the steel structure was military grade thermite , Going along with your opinion on the aluminium errr why then was military grade thermite particles found in the dust debri. Military grade thermite is used by demolition experts specifically placed at weakened structural points and the explosion deronated at ground level to blow away the ground floor allowing the floors above to collapse down on themselves which is known as free fall which can only be achieved by a controlled demolition job. Of your theory was true the buidings woudnt have free fell they would have just fallen over. Architects scientists and engineers also state that many buildings in time have caught fire and such fires have reached higher temperatures than the twin towers but still remained upright. To date the only building that have collapsed from fire is suspiciously the twin towers,

Also your explanation doesn't account for world trade centre seven that also collapsed free fell the same as the two twin towers as no plane containing aluminium struck that building, yet still it collapsed ?

i wasn't going to comment but your line about 'the only building that have collapsed etc is the twin towers is false, its wrong to say it any serving or retired member of the fire service will tell you that its false..

the manual of 'firemanship' will tell you, the Institute of Fire Engineers will tell you and sadly many coroners reports will also tell you of the effects of applied heat to structural steelwork..

We lost a guy in London at a job in 93 were the primary cause of collapse was down to the structural steel holding the building up being compromised beyond the point were it was able to do its job..

am not getting involved in your conspiracy theories but you do not know what your talking about in relation to this basic fact which is taught to trainees in all fire services.. "

Hundred of firefighters and police officers at the time reported hearing ground level explosions prior to the towers collapse which would act as evidence of a controlled insider demolotion job where charges at placed on the gtound floor to blow it away so the floors above fall down upon it this is called freefall which can only come from a controlled insider demo job. The testimonies of all firemen and officers stating they heard ground floor explosions indicating evidence to a controlled insider demolition job was all omitted from Bushes friends final cocnclusive nist report this is established fact. Also a third building collapsed the same way (freefall) and no plane hit it ? this building was world trade centre seven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

false flagging happens all the time. Problem is uk is as if not more corrupt then anyone else.

dictatorship causes governments to be overun by rebels, if you scare people into what they want then its our idea so we have nothing to rebel against.

scared of terrorism = please read every whatsapp and facebook and text i ever send. oh and can you track my location on google and have all my pics on database to protect me

the joke is we know these governments blanket bomb areas that kill innocent men women and children, and even report on it in the news in a way that doesnt sound so severe because of the threat but we accept it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it looks like a dog and smells like a dog chances are it’s a dog

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two planes crashed into the towers

I think that makes it pretty obvious how they collapsed !!

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By *urabriteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Outside or inside job yes my thoughts it was, planes can not bring two towers down like that that in such a short space of time both identical collapses.

Grenfil tower has been on fire just like the other hotels in the world, they are still standing.

what fetched WTC 7 down to the ground no plane hit it???

Planes can not fly through buildings made of steel girders and concrete, when they get in a hail storm or a bird hits them they sustain a lot of damage, yet we are all to believe they flew through these buildings!!! of all the rubble at the twin towers did any one see any desk's or chairs or computers.. no but George bush holds up the charred remains of the passport of the guy that was flying the plane a few days later??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Venus is flat also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

.....& Mars

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Outside or inside job yes my thoughts it was, planes can not bring two towers down like that that in such a short space of time both identical collapses.

Grenfil tower has been on fire just like the other hotels in the world, they are still standing.

what fetched WTC 7 down to the ground no plane hit it???

Planes can not fly through buildings made of steel girders and concrete, when they get in a hail storm or a bird hits them they sustain a lot of damage, yet we are all to believe they flew through these buildings!!! of all the rubble at the twin towers did any one see any desk's or chairs or computers.. no but George bush holds up the charred remains of the passport of the guy that was flying the plane a few days later?? "
The Nist report concluded that the third building that collapsed world trade centre 7 collapsed due to debri from the collapse of the twin towers hitting it ,,,yes ridiculous I know but those are the official nist findings. yes your quite right no planes hit world trade centre seven yet still it collapsed. it just so happened wtc7 had the audit office based there investigating the Bush administrations missing unaccounted trillions, so quite convienient for the Bush administration that wtc7 should collapse as it destroyed any evidence against the Bush administration.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The day before 9/11 Donald Rumsfelt say 1 trillion was missing from the military budget.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The day before 9/11 Donald Rumsfelt say 1 trillion was missing from the military budget.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"The day before 9/11 Donald Rumsfelt say 1 trillion was missing from the military budget.

"

The simplest of googles shows that this wasn't 'missing' in any sinister way, it was bad booking keeping systems dating back years.

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

My neighbours hay shed burnt down and the steel girders all melted and twisted and collapsed. Fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Uncle Bertram’s old, oak table completely vanished. ‘Twas on the night of the Great Stepney fire. And on that same terrible night, his house and all his other things completely vanished too. So did he in fact. ‘Tis a most perplexing mystery. (Lord Percy)

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"It was a September morning when America was tricked.By sick men with strict plans to create conflict and get rich by any means even if it meant death

For innocent civilians, the stage was set.

For a New American Century where world domination is motivation enough for the towers cremation complete obliteration, for all to see a mass public execution on live tv Programmed to strike fear in the young and old Who naively trade freedom for government control

Thinking the system will keep ‘em safe from terror But truth is they’re the killers and the pallbearers, The masters of deception are running the globe They lack souls sold our sons and daughters for black gold In full attack mode

It’s the final push What the Reichstag was for Hitler 9/11 was for Bush."

You do realise the Nazi's were not responsible for the Reich stag fire?

Historical consensus is that it was the sole responsibility of a chap called van der lubbe who happened to be a communist.

The Nazis opportunistically seized on this in order to blame the communists per se.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

If you don't like the subject so much that you want to abuse or be personal about the OP then stay away from the thread please

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Outside or inside job yes my thoughts it was, planes can not bring two towers down like that that in such a short space of time both identical collapses.

Grenfil tower has been on fire just like the other hotels in the world, they are still standing.

what fetched WTC 7 down to the ground no plane hit it???

Planes can not fly through buildings made of steel girders and concrete, when they get in a hail storm or a bird hits them they sustain a lot of damage, yet we are all to believe they flew through these buildings!!! of all the rubble at the twin towers did any one see any desk's or chairs or computers.. no but George bush holds up the charred remains of the passport of the guy that was flying the plane a few days later?? "

Different constructions, grenfell has a central concrete core for lift, staircase and services..

WTC was steel only, different fires and no exterior catastrophic impact on grenfell..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the 9th September 2001 the world was changed forever for the worst when two planes destroyed two towers. Bush blamed the attacks on Islamic extremists. The facts to date after the Nist report are as follows.

Bush and his Nist investigators concluded that the twin towers did not freefall as to admit this would be to admit that it would have been a pre planned insider job with planted explosives. Nine years later Nist conceded and admitted the towers did indeed free fall.

It has been established that jet fuel alone could not reach temperatures hot enough to melt and snap the steel structures to cause the collapse. The Nist report states the heat of the jet fuel caused the collapse.

It has been established that particles of military grade thermite was found in the dust debri. The thermite is not contained within steel structure architecture.

Military grade thermite has since been proven to be the only explosive particle material to be able to reach high enough temperatures to melt and cut through steel structure to cause the towers collapse.

Independent scientists found traces of military grade thermite particles in the dust debri and requested samples of the mangled steel to test for traces of military grade thermite in the steel. This would have proved beyond doubt that 9-11 was a controlled insider demolition job. The Bush administration refused the scientists, engineers and architects request. stating the wrangled wreckaged steel had all been shipped abroad and sold.

In my opinion this is tantamount to removing evidence from a crime scene and a criminal offence committed by the Bush administration and its FBI who were used to remove the evidence.

Given these facts isn't it about time the families of 4000 victims that died that day were given a real investigation of 9-11 ? "

So your point to this is what? And you gain what from putting this on a swinging site?

Get a grip!!

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Looks like the old adage has struck again......"You can't handle the truth".

The OP has gone UNLOS

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Looks like the old adage has struck again......"You can't handle the truth".

The OP has gone UNLOS

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A Russian Konspiratzia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He was a spy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He was a spy "

Do you think he was posting in Salisbury?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes , it could have been staged- but there would have been a leak by now from someone involved.

There is no way that not one of the potentially hundreds and hundreds of people needed to pull this off, would not have a crisis of conscious by now and let the cat out the bag - I suspect there has been a cover up of what was known prior to the attacks, but intelligence services would not want to give up what they know, for fear of letting the baddies know where our lines of information is coming from ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They fucking got him !

They got the op !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They fucking got him !

They got the op !!!!! "

Good!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He was a spy

Do you think he was posting in Salisbury?"

I'm gonna avoid his house just in case.

Or use the back door.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes , it could have been staged- but there would have been a leak by now from someone involved.

There is no way that not one of the potentially hundreds and hundreds of people needed to pull this off, would not have a crisis of conscious by now and let the cat out the bag - I suspect there has been a cover up of what was known prior to the attacks, but intelligence services would not want to give up what they know, for fear of letting the baddies know where our lines of information is coming from ,"
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If somebody did come forward would you believe them?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"They fucking got him !

They got the op !!!!! "

The irony of his alien abduction conspiracy.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"They fucking got him !

They got the op !!!!! "

I've a sneaking feeling that he will either be back with another user name or they really have got him.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Probably not surprising to find out I'm now firmly in the alternative-to-the-official-narrative camp.

Believed the official line for years, started getting a bit suspicious almost 10 years ago, but since February came across the work of Dr Judy Wood (scientist in mechanical engineering, structural engineering, and applied physics)

I'm a bit of a fan of physics, especially weird stuff like the Hutchison effect.

Seeing as I've outed myself, I might as well list some of the most salient and interesting points.

Firefighters in and under the buildings survived the 'collapse'. They looked up around 10 sec later to see daylight. The basement area afterwards was pretty much intact.

This makes the official line about 'pancake collapse' all compressed into the ground a bit tough to understand. That was the best explanation reporters could find on the day to explain why there's so little debris from such huge buildings. And it wasn't all scattered around in surrounding areas.

Apparently in the days before Sept 11 a Hurricane was on its way to New York due to hit on that very day! But it suddenly changed direction as it almost got to NY.

I don't know how that's relevant really, but just interesting and bizarre. It was almost unreported in those days, only a few minor mentions on the news. I don't get it.

Basically anyone who isn't familiar with Judy Wood and is interested go and look her up and make your own mind up. And no I'm not posting any links, found out the hard way its against forum rules lol.

One more thing, I highly recommend not to trust Steve Jones. Even though he's a physicist and believes in a demolition, he appears to be a bad man indeed. Incidentally, apparently he's the one who coined the term "cold fusion" but I'm not sure/tired.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was this the same guy from yesterday

Im sure hes a russian spy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Easter School holidays are over......

He's gone back under his bridge

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Not many people really need to be 'in on it'. Can be just a few in key positions, the rest simply doing their job as they are led.

If someone came forward the news would tend to not report it, its as simple as that. People who do come forward simply get pooh poohed by mainstream media and only really get heard by those who look further, and even then they have to do a lot of work to get through the BS.

People like Clarence Mitchell are a main reason so many lies get told, and facts not reported.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Would like to know what anyone else thinks of Judy Wood and what she's got to say. She's blacklisted a lot of places but on YouTube.

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