FabSwingers.com forum: Has feminism jumped the shark?

By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

Ok so i was reading mumsnet (dont judge me I was looking for product reviews for some household stuff)

And thought I'd have a read about see if there was anything funny (like that penis beaker story that was on the news last year) opened the feminism section and holy shit!

It's basicaly just a whole section dedicated to hating trans women. They even have anacronmyms for it all TERF trans exclusionary radical feminist

And they keep saying "peaktrans" I'm genuinely not sure what it means when they say "well today I reached peaktrans" is it like peak oil?

But it does seem a fairly wide issue with all the Twitter links and politicians involved.

I dunno why but I always assumed feminists where on the side of trans people supporting another oppressed group etc but they seem to have them and wants rights removed from them?

So yeah has feminism jumped the shark here and gone from wanting equal rights to wanting oppression for another group?

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And yet the politicians listen to them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Product reviews??

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Ok so i was reading mumsnet (dont judge me I was looking for product reviews for some household stuff)

And thought I'd have a read about see if there was anything funny (like that penis beaker story that was on the news last year) opened the feminism section and holy shit!

It's basicaly just a whole section dedicated to hating trans women. They even have anacronmyms for it all TERF trans exclusionary radical feminist

And they keep saying "peaktrans" I'm genuinely not sure what it means when they say "well today I reached peaktrans" is it like peak oil?

But it does seem a fairly wide issue with all the Twitter links and politicians involved.

I dunno why but I always assumed feminists where on the side of trans people supporting another oppressed group etc but they seem to have them and wants rights removed from them?

So yeah has feminism jumped the shark here and gone from wanting equal rights to wanting oppression for another group?"

What makes you think 1. Feminists are posting ?

2. That those posting know what feminism is ?

3. That I believe you were looking at reviews on household products ?

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

"Ok so i was reading mumsnet (dont judge me I was looking for product reviews for some household stuff)

And thought I'd have a read about see if there was anything funny (like that penis beaker story that was on the news last year) opened the feminism section and holy shit!

It's basicaly just a whole section dedicated to hating trans women. They even have anacronmyms for it all TERF trans exclusionary radical feminist

And they keep saying "peaktrans" I'm genuinely not sure what it means when they say "well today I reached peaktrans" is it like peak oil?

But it does seem a fairly wide issue with all the Twitter links and politicians involved.

I dunno why but I always assumed feminists where on the side of trans people supporting another oppressed group etc but they seem to have them and wants rights removed from them?

So yeah has feminism jumped the shark here and gone from wanting equal rights to wanting oppression for another group?

What makes you think 1. Feminists are posting ?

2. That those posting know what feminism is ?

3. That I believe you were looking at reviews on household products ?"

1) because it's the feminist section I suppose?

2) does anyone?

3) I do also like reading about crazy people in AIBU

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU"

Google says...

Am I being unreasonable

I’ve found myself on mumsnet a couple of times by mistake, it’s a whole different language on there!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU

Google says...

Am I being unreasonable

I’ve found myself on mumsnet a couple of times by mistake, it’s a whole different language on there!"

TY INGOMN

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU

Google says...

Am I being unreasonable

I’ve found myself on mumsnet a couple of times by mistake, it’s a whole different language on there!

TY INGOMN"

Thank you... I’m not going on mumsnet?

Am I right?!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU

Google says...

Am I being unreasonable

I’ve found myself on mumsnet a couple of times by mistake, it’s a whole different language on there!

TY INGOMN

Thank you... I’m not going on mumsnet?

Am I right?!"

WD I Never Go .........

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU

Google says...

Am I being unreasonable

I’ve found myself on mumsnet a couple of times by mistake, it’s a whole different language on there!

TY INGOMN

Thank you... I’m not going on mumsnet?

Am I right?!

WD I Never Go ......... "

TY close enough

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

"I'll regret t his ..... what's AIBU"

It's this weird place where they have somehow collected every crazy person in the country and got them to ask "am I being unreasonable" about thier clearly insane actions.

It's kinda like watching car crash videos wrong but oddly captivating

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

But anyway the whole peaktrans thing/feminists against trans seems to have a pretty wide following among political pressure groups and feminist authors/speakers.

Is this a case of having run out of things to fix and so picking a new enemy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. It's just a bunch of bored mums whose kids have grown up and have empty nest syndrome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But anyway the whole peaktrans thing/feminists against trans seems to have a pretty wide following among political pressure groups and feminist authors/speakers.

Is this a case of having run out of things to fix and so picking a new enemy?"

They had a vote and decided this would be their new cause.

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

"But anyway the whole peaktrans thing/feminists against trans seems to have a pretty wide following among political pressure groups and feminist authors/speakers.

Is this a case of having run out of things to fix and so picking a new enemy?

They had a vote and decided this would be their new cause. "

Seemingly so there's whole campaigns running against the gender equality vote in scotland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn. I was hoping it was a milf site..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never believe anything you read on the internet, Abraham Lincoln said that!

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By *olieandSlaveCouple
over a year ago

Stafford

Being a feminist doesn't make you a trans hater or man hater.... just makes them 'feminist' and dicks!

Proud feminist here, love men, love trans, hate women who bash people and hide behind a title!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

“Peakt trans” what the fuck?

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By *arciocialWoman
over a year ago

Leicester

Feminism is an umbrella term. Research it before labelling everyone as a trans hating radical feminist. I'm far from a radical feminist. I'd consider myself to be an intersectionality feminist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"“Peakt trans” what the fuck? "
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It's when you've reached maximum trans, no more extra trans can be recovered and then a slow decline in trans occurs.

Of course before that problem you get the bumpy plateau where demand for trans outstrips supply.... That's when the arguing starts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But anyway the whole peaktrans thing/feminists against trans seems to have a pretty wide following among political pressure groups and feminist authors/speakers.

Is this a case of having run out of things to fix and so picking a new enemy?"

I think you're way off here. Firstly, the idea that feminists have run out of things to fix is crazy

also it's unfair to tar all feminists with this transphobic brush that you seem to have found on mumsnet, of all places

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you’re looking at mumsnet thinking it’s giving the popular opinion of feminists then you’re wildly off the mark. That place is just a collection of the oddest and craziest women with out there ideas and opinions on everything. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you’re looking at mumsnet thinking it’s giving the popular opinion of feminists then you’re wildly off the mark. That place is just a collection of the oddest and craziest women with out there ideas and opinions on everything. X "
m

Someone told me about a group on the book of faces called “refuse to date men who use porn”

You should check out the opinions and pure hatred that gets posted on there.

You don’t have to join the group to read the comments either. But some of the comments are so hate filled it’s quite sad.

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Someone told me about a group on the book of faces called “refuse to date men who use porn”

You should check out the opinions and pure hatred that gets posted on there.

You don’t have to join the group to read the comments either. But some of the comments are so hate filled it’s quite sad. "

What a very odd read, had to stop as it was getting a bit ott, in my opinion of course.

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By *olfryder OP Man
over a year ago

"Feminism is an umbrella term. Research it before labelling everyone as a trans hating radical feminist. I'm far from a radical feminist. I'd consider myself to be an intersectionality feminist. "

I didn't label all feminists as that I pointed toward a section of the internet that has influenced government policy before and is showing a worrying trend

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

It's like all the crazy transphobic bigoted women gathered in one place to spout utter shite, Mumsnet should be banned, it's like an adult version of 4chan

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I didn’t realise it was such an issue. I don’t see the threat posed?

Why is it perceived as such a problem. I am not going near Mumsnet for love nor money to research it.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Groups tend to attract people who hold some similarities and also expressions can readily become exaggerated, with people competing to outdo each other.

There's of course no one single personality style that's exclusively the guise of a feminist. Feminism is what we each perceive it to be - I see it as a statement of demand for equality, at its core.

Conflation with transgender issues, a group which we also know suffers from discrimination, hatred etc, is likely to find people of almost all types who have some negativity towards transgender people and issues. Pop it into the mix of people being unhappy with their lot and misdirected anger can surface.

Go to any closed group - Fab included - and you'll find a disproportionate reflection of any society. I'd not assume that the 'feminists' speaking there are typical of much other than mumsnet 'feminists'.

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse"

Why do they perceive Trans in such a negative light?

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

It’s not the first time that a noble cause has had its name used in something crazy. Wars in the name of religion is the first one that jumps to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse"

I genuinely didn’t even know that there was such groups around, how can they not see the irony in putting exclusionary and feminist in the same sentence

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

"TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse

Why do they perceive Trans in such a negative light?

Because they're small minded loons. They have this bizarre notion that someone would go to an upheaval of lifestyle, be rejected by family and friends, lose jobs, spend thousands on bits and bobs being changed etc etc just to enter all female spaces

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By *olieandSlaveCouple
over a year ago

Stafford

"TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse

Why do they perceive Trans in such a negative light?

Basking in your girl power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) are TWATs

As are SWERFs (Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists)

As a feminist who supports trans people (and am non-binary without the pronouns), a sex worker and female bodied, I'm considered a traitor and have had my run ins with them.

Small minded cretins who can truly suck my shitty arse"

Word.

TERFs and SWERFs are not what I support as feminism and it pisses me off that they have dirtied feminism.

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