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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Two fantastic programmes on tv tonight, one on the Spitfire and one on the Mosquito. Without doubt both planes were pivotal in defeating Germany in WWII. But, are we proud or embarrassed to talk about such things these days?

Is it patriotic or racist to be proud of history?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I can't see how anyone could think that it's in anyway racist to celebrate such achievements and to remember those who gave their lives fighting fascism..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I can't see how anyone could think that it's in anyway racist to celebrate such achievements and to remember those who gave their lives fighting fascism..

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I'm with you but there is people out there!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Completely proud of certain aspects of our past.

The Second World War being one.

Loved the wooden wonder my favourite plane.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends which history you are proud of.

Helping in Defeating fascism is absolutely something to be proud of. Other wars not so much.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic as long as its not blind patriotism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes very proud

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Depends which history you are proud of.

Helping in Defeating fascism is absolutely something to be proud of. Other wars not so much.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic as long as its not blind patriotism. "

Fully agree, our role in the African slave trade or East India Company obviously not proud, shouldn't forget though or try to change history.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Depends which history you are proud of.

Helping in Defeating fascism is absolutely something to be proud of. Other wars not so much.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic as long as its not blind patriotism.

Fully agree, our role in the African slave trade or East India Company obviously not proud, shouldn't forget though or try to change history. "

That's going quite a bit further back but it is our history non the less, like it or loath it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's about remembrance, remembering the lives lost on both the Allies,the Axis and the civilians that were taken as collateral damage. It's important to remember these times in history, so it doesn't happen again.

The past is the past, and no generation should carry the burden of their ancestors, but we must remember.

I'm a massive WW2 era aircraft geek, so don't get me started on that subject

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I think it's about remembrance, remembering the lives lost on both the Allies,the Axis and the civilians that were taken as collateral damage. It's important to remember these times in history, so it doesn't happen again.

The past is the past, and no generation should carry the burden of their ancestors, but we must remember.

I'm a massive WW2 era aircraft geek, so don't get me started on that subject "

Me too dude. Been up in a Havard the tandem Spitfire and a Catalina.

My Grandad was on Sunderland’s

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's about remembrance, remembering the lives lost on both the Allies,the Axis and the civilians that were taken as collateral damage. It's important to remember these times in history, so it doesn't happen again.

The past is the past, and no generation should carry the burden of their ancestors, but we must remember.

I'm a massive WW2 era aircraft geek, so don't get me started on that subject

Me too dude. Been up in a Havard the tandem Spitfire and a Catalina.

My Grandad was on Sunderland’s "

Wow, now they're things I'd like to get in!

When the Lancaster flew in from Canada via Iceland it directly flew overhead down the full length of my street, although I dared to hope I'd glimpse it, I saw it all the way, one of the best feelings I've ever had.

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By *oldierfunMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real proud we won winners are grinners

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By *oldierfunMan
over a year ago

Barnsley


"Depends which history you are proud of.

Helping in Defeating fascism is absolutely something to be proud of. Other wars not so much.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic as long as its not blind patriotism.

Fully agree, our role in the African slave trade or East India Company obviously not proud, shouldn't forget though or try to change history. "

Our role you mean the blockades to prevent slaves being transported from Africa to America or the large sums offered to slave traders to set up new businesses. No other nation has done so much to bring the end of slavery as the UK has. If we are going to bring this subject up let's teach the whole thing and not just the bits to try and make people feel guilty about something they have no involvement in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

proud to be British

proud of fellow Britains

proud to of done my tiny bit for this great nation

and thats without a drink,

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Depends which history you are proud of.

Helping in Defeating fascism is absolutely something to be proud of. Other wars not so much.

Nothing wrong with being patriotic as long as its not blind patriotism.

Fully agree, our role in the African slave trade or East India Company obviously not proud, shouldn't forget though or try to change history.

Our role you mean the blockades to prevent slaves being transported from Africa to America or the large sums offered to slave traders to set up new businesses. No other nation has done so much to bring the end of slavery as the UK has. If we are going to bring this subject up let's teach the whole thing and not just the bits to try and make people feel guilty about something they have no involvement in "

That would include the re-enactment of indenture then. More died on the crossing from India to the West Indies than in the slave trade and no one mentions it. It ended 101 years ago but no one knows this.

I am proud to be British, proud of some of this rich history, the part my antecedents played in that success and I'm glad that their involvement is finally being recognised in WWI and WWII.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Two fantastic programmes on tv tonight, one on the Spitfire and one on the Mosquito. Without doubt both planes were pivotal in defeating Germany in WWII. But, are we proud or embarrassed to talk about such things these days?

Is it patriotic or racist to be proud of history?"

Pivotal was the yanks joining up - but nothing was possible without the Russians; without them we'd now be better engineers & have a faster, more comfortable & far cheaper transport infrastructure.

Oh & we'd be more punctual & actually able to play football!

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"Two fantastic programmes on tv tonight, one on the Spitfire and one on the Mosquito. Without doubt both planes were pivotal in defeating Germany in WWII. But, are we proud or embarrassed to talk about such things these days?

Is it patriotic or racist to be proud of history?

Pivotal was the yanks joining up - but nothing was possible without the Russians; without them we'd now be better engineers & have a faster, more comfortable & far cheaper transport infrastructure.

Oh & we'd be more punctual & actually able to play football! "
and i along with my farther and grandparents wouldnt be here as they would of been liquidated as undesirables and enemies of the people due to thier political activitys and views .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I served at RAF coninsby were the BBMF is had the pleasure of sitting in one of the spitfires and going in the Lancaster bomber.

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple
over a year ago

South Wales

What a load of nonsense this thread is. It's reads like a Daily Mail 'they're trying to ban Christmas' story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So long as we acknowledge that a good number of the German people had little idea of what was going on during the Nazi regime, and that tragically a lot were innocently caught up in the crossfire in bombing raids for example - I think we have the right to be proud of the servicemen who gave their lives to protect and liberate.

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