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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good luck op

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

And 3dly how prevalent is the trend to go aim to go from healthy to obese?

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over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese? "

Where are you seeing this currently?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And 3dly how prevalent is the trend to go aim to go from healthy to obese? "

Are you talking on here or in general?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?"

What she said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've see this, there's a few ladies I've seen online who are escorts/cam girls who specially gain weight in order to get more attention/money

I have no idea why they do it to be honest, No amount of money is worth that.

If people gain weight naturally then it's different, people gain and lose for a host of reasons.

But these actually enjoy putting on large amounts of weight in a short amount of time as if it's some sort of achievement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i cant see that this a trend, i have no idea where youve seen it, but it sounds like an internet group or something..extreme fads are always about, come and go...i remember the waist training corsets from the 80's..horrible..these things come and go..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Google Monica Riley

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By *rSuave88Man
over a year ago

Mirfield

This isnt new OP, its been happening for a while. The one who is doing the feeding is usually doing so in order to exert control and power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley "

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now. "

I has been a trend as per my previous comment. There's been documentaries about it featuring several women, I used only said Monica Riley as an example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now. "

Also, I was just wondering where OP was seeing the trend, and whether it was on here or specific cases in media?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now.

I has been a trend as per my previous comment. There's been documentaries about it featuring several women, I used only said Monica Riley as an example "

Oh I know about feeders/feeding. I was asking the OP where he specifically was referring to

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said."

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

Girls come to the gym to gain weight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

Do they stop going to the gym to fatten up?

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

I hope this post has not caused any offence. It's not my intention to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now.

I has been a trend as per my previous comment. There's been documentaries about it featuring several women, I used only said Monica Riley as an example "

ive seen a couple of documentaries too, read a lot about feeders a while ago too, but i cant see a trend as such, as in it seeping into the norm,at all..the docs ive seen were like those ones on puppy boys, doggers etc..just good subjects to get viewers..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

Have to question the 1 in 10 late teen early 20's gym users... none gym users prehaps, but people going to the gym while trying to gain non muscle body weight? Have you asked them about this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hope this post has not caused any offence. It's not my intention to do so. "

No offence here, and not in any of the responses I’ve read indicate any offence has taken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Google Monica Riley

Yes, but OP talks about seeing a trend...and Monica Riley is apparently losing weight and aspiring to get a healthier lifestyle now.

I has been a trend as per my previous comment. There's been documentaries about it featuring several women, I used only said Monica Riley as an example

Exactly my feeling too. I don’t see a trend just the same strand of fetish there always was - hence why I was interested to hear where this new data was coming from.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

Have you thought to ask them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no offence here, but i am really confused and i have to say completely disbelieving of the idea that 1 in 10 of women in your gym are there (why would they be there?) to gain weight, fat specifically.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese? "

Is it the other side of the coin to anorexia?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"no offence here, but i am really confused and i have to say completely disbelieving of the idea that 1 in 10 of women in your gym are there (why would they be there?) to gain weight, fat specifically."

Nods.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

You can understand people ruining their body with toxic chemicals but not with food? Curious.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems. "

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to gain weight?

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why?

Have you thought to ask them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a few who like to do the whole feeder fetish scenario. However, I wouldn’t say there’s a worrying trend. It’s probably less than the amount of young men who are taking a large amount of steroids in order to get really big at the gym.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight? "

I did not say that.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"There are a few who like to do the whole feeder fetish scenario. However, I wouldn’t say there’s a worrying trend. It’s probably less than the amount of young men who are taking a large amount of steroids in order to get really big at the gym."

But that's understandable according to the op

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

Feeding/Feeders have been around for a long time.

The age of social media has brought it to more attention I guess. I hardly call it a trend when it’s been around for years.

Some women are cashing in on the fetish. Same as sploshing/balloon fetishes etc etc. With the growth of technology more and more websites for niche things are popping up. More fetishes are being “discovered”

The waist training thing has also been around for years and is not the same thing as corsetting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen the odd story, predominantly in the States. My guess is these women that purposefully put on weight, would do so anyway, they've just managed to find a way where they can be paid handsomely for it.

Ginger

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that."

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

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By *shpred1Man
over a year ago

Romford

Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Why people would want to be fat in general, I don't know. Not everyone wants to be nicely toned, most don't have the self discipline to get there even if they do want to. There's definitely a lack of education from an early age around nutrition but the fat parents can take a huge part of that responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But that's understandable according to the op "

Oh dear!

I’d say the latter is more worrying due to the rates of depression in young males. A lot of them are suffering badly with body dysmorphia. It’s such a shame.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Some fat parents.... My sister is a fat parent but her children are like 2 streaks of piss, highly active and eat healthily.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did "

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

People don’t generally choose to be fat. Much of the time, there’s a trigger, something bad happens and weight gain happens. Once that weight is on, it starts a circle of overeating and struggling to get it off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems. "

im perfectly aware of training corsets, they are nothing new, stupid, but not new...im saying i do not beleive that 1 in 10 women in your gym are trying to put on huge amounts of fat.

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over a year ago

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did "

To be fair to the op we missunderstood him. He was referencing the waisttrainers for that figure. It wasnt phrased the best but he did clarify

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question. "

What i have written is clearly not clear enough to its meaning.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems. "

So the trend of 1 in 10 at your gym is for waist trainers?

There is no trend, but you're curious, about deliberate, extreme weight gainers?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

What i have written is clearly not clear enough to its meaning."

Are you saying that women are wearing waist trainers at the gym?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

What i have written is clearly not clear enough to its meaning."

Clearly seeing as the question asked had nothing to do with waist training and everything to do with you saying 1 in 10 girls at your gym go there to put on weight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like big obese women are beautiful and I love watching them eating like going to buffets etc with a big girl as I know they more they eat the more they maintain that big sexy body that I love so much skinny and average girls do nothing for me I like big massive ladies bigger the better. I love BBW

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question. "

ok, well, equally, im sorry, but i do not believe 1 in 10 young women in your gym wears a waist trainer. if that is true, then that is a stupid fad specicif to whatever college etc you are at, young people will easily start following what they see as a peer, but to extrapolate that, surely it would be the same in every gym, and that is absolutely not the case, its nonsense.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

So the trend of 1 in 10 at your gym is for waist trainers?

There is no trend, but you're curious, about deliberate, extreme weight gainers?

Yes. I understand the desire or the pressure to wear a waist trainer I didn't understand the weight gain thing.

Nice couple: yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think there's a purposeful trend. I think people not just women in general are just getting fat. Bad food taste good, is addictive and is cheap. We're also bogged down with work and drive everywhere. Our meats, veg and fruits are of a poorer quality these days too with all the growth hormones and pesticides etc... Like we actually have to plan our lives to stay in shape where a few decades ago they were just in shape from living.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

Im sad to say but its perfectly possible.

How many men and women at gyms do you think purposly under eat. Take meal replacement suppliments. Possibly steriods or other ped's. Spraytans etc.... is it that bit a jump to say 1 in 10 body concious people would buy a waist trainer?

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Its a big thing in the states for women to gain wait they are with men who are called feeders .. some men get of on seeing bbw being fed or even having a tube stuck in there throats and liquid pored down to gain weight ..

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

So the trend of 1 in 10 at your gym is for waist trainers?

There is no trend, but you're curious, about deliberate, extreme weight gainers?

Yes. I understand the desire or the pressure to wear a waist trainer I didn't understand the weight gain thing.

Nice couple: yes"

What are the perceived benefits of wearing a waist trainer while at the gym?

My opinion on people deliberately gaining weight and documenting it is that they have issues around food and probably need professional help to overcome that. If they're sexualising or fetishising weight gain I think that's a problem too.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

What i have written is clearly not clear enough to its meaning.

Clearly seeing as the question asked had nothing to do with waist training and everything to do with you saying 1 in 10 girls at your gym go there to put on weight. "

He didn’t actually say that though. He worded his response wrong. And had since explained that when he said “1 in ten girls at his gym” he meant waist training.

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over a year ago

I'm still struggling to believe that these young girls go to a gym in the first place, and tell people they want to become seriously obese, to satisfy a man's sexual urges.

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over a year ago

No waist trainers corsets designed to make the waist slimmer by pressing in the waist. If worn for prolonged amount of time they can cause health problems.

What has that got to do with women going to the gym to

gain weight?

I did not say that.

Quote .... Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

Yes you did

No that is wearing of waist trainers. In response to the previous posters question.

What i have written is clearly not clear enough to its meaning.

Clearly seeing as the question asked had nothing to do with waist training and everything to do with you saying 1 in 10 girls at your gym go there to put on weight.

He didn’t actually say that though. He worded his response wrong. And had since explained that when he said “1 in ten girls at his gym” he meant waist training. "

Oh right. Thanks for explaining.

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over a year ago

"I'm still struggling to believe that these young girls go to a gym in the first place, and tell people they want to become seriously obese, to satisfy a man's sexual urges. "

The dont he was talking about 2 different issues

1. At his gym girls wear waist trainers

2. In his collage he has noticed the obesity trend

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over a year ago

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Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising. "

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

I go to the gym and work out but I struggle to stay motivated to do so, Not because I "enjoy being fat" simply because I'm not unhappy with my body the way it is, Did you ever think that might why people don't go to the gym and be strict with their eating?

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over a year ago

"I don't think there's a purposeful trend. I think people not just women in general are just getting fat. Bad food taste good, is addictive and is cheap. We're also bogged down with work and drive everywhere. Our meats, veg and fruits are of a poorer quality these days too with all the growth hormones and pesticides etc... Like we actually have to plan our lives to stay in shape where a few decades ago they were just in shape from living. "

Gaining weight (fat) is definitely a trend. It's a leap though to say it's purposeful except for a very small minority.

Obesity was not a goal for the overwhelming majority of obese people, it was a side effect.

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over a year ago

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening."

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

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over a year ago

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing"

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST

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over a year ago

There has been some interesting comments made around this topic on here. There are several reasons behind why someone becomes a gainer.

1st I would like to comment on the comment about feeders donut because it's all about control. Having known people with a food fetish alot of the time the feeder is not the one in control and has ended up as such due to the person's want to explore that fetish side of themselves.

2nd the original op.said he understands steroid use etc but not this. It comes down to the same reasons. IE. How the person wants to see themselves. Sometimes it's just a personal choice. Both have there negative issues when it comes to health issues and doing anything to extremes is damaging to your health in the long run. Even the perfect toned body building exercising can be damaging.

Also take into account the pyschological and emotional damage people have and are using food as a coping mechanism. This Binge eating and overeating is where someone feels compelled to eat when they are not hungry and who cannot stop when they have had enough. Luke any addiction you lose control over it.

Add into other mental health issues, lack of self worth etc why someone does it is not an easy question to answer.

I am a big lad ex forces ex rugby player and when I had a nasty accident that knackered up my body I was unable to stay as active as I wanted. Then add years of addiction and mental health problems my weight became immaterial to me.

I am still active work a long number of hours and have lost alot of weight but I will never be back to where I was.

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over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Where are you seeing this currently?

What she said.

Around 1 in 10 girls usually in the teens to 20s at the gyms i work at.

For the first thing no not on here although at Uni and on the internet I have came across healthy women with the desire to gain masses of weight of what is beyond healthy

My real big thing is to try and understand what the motivation is. Is it the fat acceptance movement (Which has done wonders in stopping discrimination) gone extreme.

I can understand the motives of steroid use, drugs, smoking etc. But this i find tragic and want to just understand why? "

I read an article recently.. the ladies goal (which she achieved) was to become obese to the point of being bed bound. Her motivation was that she would feel like a queen if her partner had to cater to her every whim.

Crazy to us, but the world is made up of all sorts!

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

To be fair you are not obese. There are people who due to bad habits and enviormental issues grew up obese and this is proven to cause higher risk of health issues. They are not stupid or lazy. They have simply gotten onto a cycle of behaviour they find hard to break. For the record I am talking about people unhappy with their weight if you are happy woth yours then more power to you

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

I'm 5 foot 7 and 14 stone, I'm obese lol

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

He wasn't referring to you, he was responding to the Op who was asking about people who specifically wanted to be very over weight.

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over a year ago

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST "

As someone who has work in the industry for a long time I have to agree... there are obviously exceptions

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over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese? "

I’ve gained 6lb since this time last year. I’ve also grown boobs. Could be that

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

He wasn't referring to you, he was responding to the Op who was asking about people who specifically wanted to be very over weight. "

No he wasnt otherwise he wouldn't have said "why would anyone want to be fat in general?"

He was clearly speaking about people who are overweight not just those mentioned in the original post

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over a year ago

Very good point.

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over a year ago

"I respect everyone's sexial preference, however over recent days I have seen a new but for me a worrying trend.

This trend is for women to gain weight and we are not talking muscle mass here or post pregnancy weight we are taking about just over 60kg or 100lb in deliberate weight gain.

As a pt and what I am doing for my degree this is worrying that alongside the growing use of waist trainers which Victorian research has shown can cause organ falliur and even death.

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

I’ve gained 6lb since this time last year. I’ve also grown boobs. Could be that

Congradulations....now get your ass to the gym and burn them back off.... oh wait....

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over a year ago

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST

As someone who has work in the industry for a long time I have to agree... there are obviously exceptions"

I’ve found there are some who genuinely know their shit, but usually they have backgrounds in dietetics or sport science.

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over a year ago

Funny enough the poorer people of the world are now the ones with the obesity problems. Poorer communities in general have a lack of nutritional education and less money for better quality food and tend to buy loads of junk. Going off point anyway

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

I'm 5 foot 7 and 14 stone, I'm obese lol "

Well like I said if your happy then thats the main thing

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

He wasn't referring to you, he was responding to the Op who was asking about people who specifically wanted to be very over weight.

No he wasnt otherwise he wouldn't have said "why would anyone want to be fat in general?"

He was clearly speaking about people who are overweight not just those mentioned in the original post "

No. He couldn't have been clearer.

He said "why would anyone WANT to be fat in general?"

You changed the WANT to ARE and then seem to be taking offence at your own creation!

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over a year ago

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST

As someone who has work in the industry for a long time I have to agree... there are obviously exceptions

I’ve found there are some who genuinely know their shit, but usually they have backgrounds in dietetics or sport science. "

Its like any area there needs to be personal responsability about who you take advice from... now that every second person in the gym is an "influencer" our industy jist happens to be quite bad at regulation and control

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over a year ago

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

He wasn't referring to you, he was responding to the Op who was asking about people who specifically wanted to be very over weight.

No he wasnt otherwise he wouldn't have said "why would anyone want to be fat in general?"

He was clearly speaking about people who are overweight not just those mentioned in the original post

No. He couldn't have been clearer.

He said "why would anyone WANT to be fat in general?"

You changed the WANT to ARE and then seem to be taking offence at your own creation!

Ok xxx

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

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Are you sure young women that are going to the gym are actually deliberately trying to gain weight? I would suggest the majority are inadvertently gaining weight and going to the gym to try to rectify that!!

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese? "

As far as the gym community is concerned the bigger issue is surely steroid induced body building. It's the other end of the scale but an 7% bodyfat heavy steroid using body builder is probably less healthy than someone who is slightly in the obese category.

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms."

teen lad in our house, he and his friends all go to the gym together, and are constantly being hassled to buy steroids..its a scary prospect when children are taking them too, before theyre even properly grown

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST

As someone who has work in the industry for a long time I have to agree... there are obviously exceptions

I’ve found there are some who genuinely know their shit, but usually they have backgrounds in dietetics or sport science. "

Yeah it's interesting the amount of bad fitness advice out there. It seems journals are just not easily available for the general public not easily understood.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms."

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

From someone who has a degree in human nutrition and who is an ‘instablogger’/lover of anything that improves the worlds view on nutrition and the food we feed our bodies, steroid use is nowhere near as sad as women who allow themselves to be fed by men in order to feel ‘accepted’

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

Actually quite a few women wear waist trainers to the gym. I’ve seen a few at my gym.

Lots of “instabloggers” wear trainers while training/exercising.

Some people think bloggers of any sort are experts. It's frightening.

Most of all they believe it themselves, so they sound more convincing

Gym/training/nutrition bloggers are the WORST

As someone who has work in the industry for a long time I have to agree... there are obviously exceptions

I’ve found there are some who genuinely know their shit, but usually they have backgrounds in dietetics or sport science. "

Like me i did my undergrad in see.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive "

Health belief model dictates that. However one weakness of the model is that we are all Human and sometimes its not enough to say a behavior is self defeating.

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By *abulously curiousCouple
over a year ago

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There's a thing called squashing.. pays well! !!

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive "

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others.

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By *abulously curiousCouple
over a year ago

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"Google Monica Riley "
jesus. How to die young!

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others."

The users of anabolics are misunderstood..

yes they’re still users, but there also a group of people so look after themselves much more than people realise

They eat extremely well, they are very educated and clued up on how to look after their bodies to get the maximum from them.

They eat and train to a very limited, specific shedule (predominantly very closely with well educated people and trainers) in order to push their bodies to the extreme based on research and science..

There is no research or science to back up living on a diet or saturated fat in order to gain weight

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others.

The users of anabolics are misunderstood..

yes they’re still users, but there also a group of people so look after themselves much more than people realise

They eat extremely well, they are very educated and clued up on how to look after their bodies to get the maximum from them.

They eat and train to a very limited, specific shedule (predominantly very closely with well educated people and trainers) in order to push their bodies to the extreme based on research and science..

There is no research or science to back up living on a diet or saturated fat in order to gain weight "

You're generalising.

The majority of anabolic steroid users are no better educated or clued up than anyone else and certainly do not have access to professional trainers.

Some anabolic steroid use is extremely dangerous with increasing numbers of recorded tragedies including death being attributed. It is acknowledged as being a major problem which is sadly increasing.

Building your body with steroids and then reducing your body fat to circa 7 or 8% is not looking after yourself. It is an unhealthy practice.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

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1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others."

Probably because steroids build muscle and muscle is always better than being fat

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Ok...so here are some of my rambling thoughts..

Re food supplements...supermarkets sell huge tubs of protien supplements etc aimed specificly at bodybuilders. The pressure to look perfect applies to men and women, and chucking a tub of whey powder into your trolley alongside your regular shopping normalises that image & pressure.

Are young women trying to gaon weight to have a Kardashian-style arse??

And as a sufferer of a chronic lung condition, and long-term user of cortico-steroids, trying to get a physio referal to help with lung function, cardio and overall fitness is impossible.

And I can't sleep tonight. Grrr

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"Google Monica Riley jesus. How to die young! "

Just found another goddess Shar. She gone from 60-83kg and is looking to get near 100. She's doing it because she thinks it will make her happy and so she can become a plus size model.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive "

The issue with steroid use is the number of young males using. It’s coming from a place of anxiety and dysmorphia about how they think their body should look. There’s a record number of young males who are now depressed, impotent and showing classic mental health symptoms relating to how they look.

I’d say that’s just as bad as women who allow themselves to be fed through a fetish, if not worse.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

I’d say that’s just as bad as women who allow themselves to be fed through a fetish, if not worse. "

This is far more of a cutural issue in relation to social media etc... than a steriod issue.. steriods are just one of the many tools people use to achieve what they believe sociaty wants

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

I’d say that’s just as bad as women who allow themselves to be fed through a fetish, if not worse.

This is far more of a cutural issue in relation to social media etc... than a steriod issue.. steriods are just one of the many tools people use to achieve what they believe sociaty wants"

It’s enough of a problem that steroids are the only drug that has had an increase in usage. It doesn’t matter where it stems from.

However, that wasn’t my point. I was referring to the comment about people using steroids safely and that it’s nowhere near as sad as women piling weight on for a fetish. I think they’re both worrying trends, but I’d hasten to guess that the numbers of young males abusing steroids are much higher than women turning to feeders.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it anything to do with Kim Kardashian and her massive arse?

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

"Is it anything to do with Kim Kardashian and her massive arse?"

I wondered that, in my nocturnal rambling post!

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over a year ago

"Is it anything to do with Kim Kardashian and her massive arse?

I wondered that, in my nocturnal rambling post!"

Just seen it sorry. Great minds think alike.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

I’d say that’s just as bad as women who allow themselves to be fed through a fetish, if not worse.

This is far more of a cutural issue in relation to social media etc... than a steriod issue.. steriods are just one of the many tools people use to achieve what they believe sociaty wants

It’s enough of a problem that steroids are the only drug that has had an increase in usage. It doesn’t matter where it stems from.

That's the point we tried to make, you've made it well.

The Op has chosen not to respond to this observation.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

I’d say that’s just as bad as women who allow themselves to be fed through a fetish, if not worse.

This is far more of a cutural issue in relation to social media etc... than a steriod issue.. steriods are just one of the many tools people use to achieve what they believe sociaty wants

It’s enough of a problem that steroids are the only drug that has had an increase in usage. It doesn’t matter where it stems from.

That's the point we tried to make, you've made it well.

The Op has chosen not to respond to this observation. "

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By *shpred1Man
over a year ago

Romford

"Mate, as a PT you shouldn't complain. Obese clients are also known as 'long term income'.

Well aren't you delightful

He wasn't referring to you, he was responding to the Op who was asking about people who specifically wanted to be very over weight.

No he wasnt otherwise he wouldn't have said "why would anyone want to be fat in general?"

He was clearly speaking about people who are overweight not just those mentioned in the original post

No. He couldn't have been clearer.

He said "why would anyone WANT to be fat in general?"

You changed the WANT to ARE and then seem to be taking offence at your own creation!

Ok xxx "

PureSpice I appreciate your clarification and you are spot on. Thought I was pretty clear to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What business is it of yours if people want to gain weight really anoys me all these do gooder saying u should or shouldnt do this its not healthy its bad for you same with these stup 100 calorie adverts every 5 mins 2 a day max fuck right off same with the anti smoking brigade half of them are former smokers leave us to our vices we are grown up enough to make our own decisions

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"What business is it of yours if people want to gain weight really anoys me all these do gooder saying u should or shouldnt do this its not healthy its bad for you same with these stup 100 calorie adverts every 5 mins 2 a day max fuck right off same with the anti smoking brigade half of them are former smokers leave us to our vices we are grown up enough to make our own decisions"

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

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over a year ago

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others.

Probably because steroids build muscle and muscle is always better than being fat

Steroids do not build muscle

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Weight gain that isn't deliberate is a complex issue, where people are at unhealthy weights. It's often not just one thing affecting each person either. Lifestyle changes with increasing age but without commensurate diet changes, physiological changes and potentially many factors that we don't know of yet, mean it's facile to want to say that it's just about calories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I,ve heard of feeders. I suspect my former fwb may have been one. His ex wife was 20 stone. When he took me out to dinner, he wasn't very pleased when I didn't eat it all! X

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over a year ago

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument."

So interesting point.

But if that's the case

Why fund a health service for smokers. Drinkers. Steroid users. Etc as there are many choices that people make that put their health at risk.

Even in swinging IE bareback.

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over a year ago

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument."

Also you assume that just because someone is over weight that they have no care for their own health etc. Would you suggest that those chronically underweight and who have major health issues also not be allowed to use the nhs

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

And yet we do tax other unhealthy choices heavily - smoking, alcohol etc.

There seems to be a lot of support for minimum pricing on alcohol. How about minimum pricing on non-essential foods. Perhaps chocolates bars should always cost more than £3?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

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over a year ago

In the long run it comes down to many different factors why someone is overweight.

The assumption that someone does it because they want to is in some cases correct.

But there is alot of emotional damage trauma etc that had a contributing factor.

Like any addiction it's not as easy as just stop. The moral model of addiction is all about shaming and guilt and as such can make the situation worse.

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over a year ago

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument."

That’s not a particularly viable argument in my opinion. People drink too much, they smoke too much, they work too much, and don’t sleep enough. The NHS spends the most on patients who suffer from lifestyle-related illnesses and diseases. These are poor diet, smoking and drinking. It’s not exclusive to obesity.

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others.

Probably because steroids build muscle and muscle is always better than being fat

Steroids do not build muscle"

Really? Out of the whole thing that’s all you got?

And they actually do help to build muscle. That’s why they’re used.

***Male hormones, principally testosterone, are partially responsible for the tremendous developmental changes that occur during puberty and adolescence. Male hormones have androgenic and anabolic effects. Androgenic effects are changes in primary and secondary sexual characteristics. These include enlargement of the penis and testes, voice changes, hair growth on the face, axilla, and genital areas, and increased aggressiveness. The anabolic effects of androgens include accelerated growth of muscle, bone, and red blood cells, and enhanced neural conduction.***

A simple google search would have helped you.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

Not my view mate, it was something mentioned in a lecture I attended at Uni.

There are a lot ingrained schemas some of them mostly stigmas. You find in obese populations and 5 increase levels of anxiety and depression beyond that of normal weight individuals (what your definition for normal is controversial). So what we have been taught at Uni.

I think anyone with mental health issues deserves help of some sort weather obese or malnourished.

You will find in the US 97% of obese people said that exercise is important but 97% of that 97% indicated no willingness to do Exercise.

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1st question I have is why are people putting their life at risk in this way.

2nd question is what do they gain from documenting their progress from healthy to morbidly obese?

Just look at the numbers of body builders who tragically die young, it's increasing.

Society is programmed to revere one and condemn the other.

So my answer to both of your questions is to ask those questions to the steroid users, you'll find loads of them at most gyms.

Sadly, the misuse of anabolics is just as misunderstood as the issues in OPs original post..

Perhaps if these people had more access to education and information, they’d reconsider their choices in a bid to stay alive

When you say, 'nowhere near as sad', what do you mean?

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just would like to understand why you see it as sadder?

From the outside looking in, its two groups of people putting their long-term health at risk for short-term acceptance of others.

Probably because steroids build muscle and muscle is always better than being fat

Steroids do not build muscle

Really? Out of the whole thing that’s all you got?

And they actually do help to build muscle. That’s why they’re used.

A simple google search would have helped you. "

Laughable really is .. its went from steroids building muscle to helping hence my reply.

Everything on Google is so true isn't it? If that's the case how come everyone who takes steroids are not walking about massive, with over sized muscles etc? Steroids to do not build muscle! Fact!. It's an enhancement, if anything it fills muscle with water,hence where the water baby thing comes from, and helps with recovery, muscles grow with hard training and putting the hard work in, and eating properly, I.e muscle growth happens through muscle fibres being torn and repairing through protein, carbs etc fact!. Penis and testes enlargement through steroids? If anything when taking testosterone the testes shrink through testicular atrophy, through high levels of it and the body not producing natural testosterone. Penis growth does not happen it's all a myth! Hair growth if anything causes hair loss and stop growing, hence why most people taking steroids have shaved heads etc, not everybody but a high percentage. A lot to do around steroids is all hear say, rumours and myths that people read on the internet. And that's first hand experience not Google!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

Not my view mate, it was something mentioned in a lecture I attended at Uni.

I think anyone with mental health issues deserves help of some sort weather obese or malnourished.

You will find in the US 97% of obese people said that exercise is important but 97% of that 97% indicated no willingness to do Exercise. "

I don't believe those statistics....do you have a link to the study?

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over a year ago

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

Not my view mate, it was something mentioned in a lecture I attended at Uni.

I think anyone with mental health issues deserves help of some sort weather obese or malnourished.

You will find in the US 97% of obese people said that exercise is important but 97% of that 97% indicated no willingness to do Exercise.

I don't believe those statistics....do you have a link to the study? "

Yeah, that sounds like utter bullshit!

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over a year ago

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

Not my view mate, it was something mentioned in a lecture I attended at Uni.

I think anyone with mental health issues deserves help of some sort weather obese or malnourished.

You will find in the US 97% of obese people said that exercise is important but 97% of that 97% indicated no willingness to do Exercise. "

I love statistics!

Definitely true that 97%.

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

That's an interesting point you raise. However an anti-fat campaigner may argue why should we pay the health fees or taxes of our nhs to someone who has clearly no care about there own health.

Not my view just a known philosophic argument.

Not my view mate, it was something mentioned in a lecture I attended at Uni.

I think anyone with mental health issues deserves help of some sort weather obese or malnourished.

You will find in the US 97% of obese people said that exercise is important but 97% of that 97% indicated no willingness to do Exercise.

I love statistics!

Definitely true that 97%."

Martin, morrow, Jackson and dunn,. (2000) variables related to meeting the CDC/ACSM physical activity guidelines, journal of medical science and sport exercise, vol32:12 pp2087-2092

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Victorian research ?!!

Good to see up to date research being used in our university's,what did the cavemen have to say about it

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By *oxes OP Man
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

Tudor-Lock, Basheer, Johnson & katzamarzyk.,(2010), accelerometer profiles of physical activity and inactivity in normal weight, over weight and obese U.S. Man and women.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

What's the actual point of this thread ?

If it concerns you do something and set up cheap/free fitness classes.

It seems like a look at me thread but no idea why

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

I watched a trashy US “documentary” the other day, my 600lb life (or something). The woman had weight loss surgery and then got herself a PT and was (obviously) eating less.

She had met her husband at some fat appreciation society years before when she was heavy but no-where near the size she ended up. He did nothing but ridicule her attempts to lose weight, even took her to a drive thru on the way back from the hospital to get himself some food. It was actually disgusting the way he treated her saying “I am sexually attracted to massively fat women, I don’t want her to lose weight”. He basically wanted her to eat herself to an early grave to satisfy his sexual needs

luckily she could see him for what he was, but a less strong woman could see a feeder as someone who cares for them and loves them.

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