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"A simple lie detector test would solve a lot I think " Unfortunately they are not reliable. I don't agree with the funding. Should be closed now in my opinion, other morw recent cases that should get this funding with a better chance of solving them. | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ??" They've thrown a hell of a lot of money at that too. But suspect that decision is nothing to do with his lifestyle and more that they have exhausted the only plausible lead | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ?? They've thrown a hell of a lot of money at that too. But suspect that decision is nothing to do with his lifestyle and more that they have exhausted the only plausible lead " £1.2 million I believe In his search | |||
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"What a waste of money I'm so convinced the parents know!! " Hear hear...im so convinced that they know oh too well | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ?? They've thrown a hell of a lot of money at that too. But suspect that decision is nothing to do with his lifestyle and more that they have exhausted the only plausible lead " There’s a piece about him in the news today. Now saying they feel he may have killed himself after believing he was about to become a father? | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ?? They've thrown a hell of a lot of money at that too. But suspect that decision is nothing to do with his lifestyle and more that they have exhausted the only plausible lead £1.2 million I believe In his search " £2.1 being reported.. fact is that where he or her to be one of our own the numbers would not be that much of an issue in the desire to know the answer.. | |||
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"It was and remains a sad story but it was a long time ago now and I can't help but feel sorry for her siblings growing up amongst all the attention,they must feel neglected and second best to a degree x" I have to agree. It's having an effect for sure. I'm sure as a family they're happy the search continues but its awful for those in similar situations that never get this much support. | |||
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"I wonder if we will ever find out what happened to her in our lifetime??" | |||
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"The Peter Hyatt analysis is the most damning I have come across. He also concluded a strong possibility of sexual abuse amongst other revelations. Around the world, especially Australia etc the media report the case differently. In the UK we only ever hear the official side and nothing else, at least not seriously. The McCanns have also spent most of their donations on legal affairs to silence anyone questioning their narrative." How do they report it in other countries? | |||
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"The whole saga has stank from day one. What's with the McCanns that makes the authorities bend over backwards for them?" Cos they have money and money talks | |||
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"Where has the money come from for this funding? Because they have been raising money for ages the Mccans may have put it forward.. " Th Met Police applied for funding from the government | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money?" The facts still remain clear to me that the parents left the children in a hotel room alone while they wined and dined...had this happened to an average working class family or even benefits claimants their whole life would of been dragged through the mud and I doubt the amount of money would of been spent on the search. I will always think the parents had something to do with it! | |||
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"A simple lie detector test would solve a lot I think " They refused to take one. As a mother I have to say they disnt come across well in the media and if that had been working class parents they wd be in prison. For them the whole thing has been aboit money and they r g.p's and admitted giving thier kids adult drugs to sedate them. That enuf is a chargeable offence. Far too many discrepancies in the case x | |||
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"Might as well just let Kate McCann kick poor Kerry Needham in the face. C***s!" I was thinking that Ben Needham's mum should ask why she wasn't given millions in funding to find her boy. Do they have to justify their reasons for releasing the funds? Where is the money coming from? | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money?" What factual evidence do the police have to warrant even more finding to carry on the investigation? Has it been publicised anywhere? | |||
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"Another £154,000 has been given to the police to continue the search for Maddie McCann. Total so far £11 million. I’m not sure they will ever find her. I’m also unsure that other cases get equal they treatment. " they have got away with murder literally as there drs any normal family would have been jumped on at least for leaving them alone these 2 murderers haven't faced any form of criminal charges total joke another Dr left her kid alone on a lounger in the sea whilst she went for a swim the kid was swept a mile out kid was ok as the mother conveniently jumped on a jet ski to her no-one batted an eyelid yet normal parents arrested no doubt | |||
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"The whole saga has stank from day one. What's with the McCanns that makes the authorities bend over backwards for them? Cos they have money and money talks" But they don't, well not the sort of money that buys this sort of influence. They aren't poor but the notion that a hospital consultant is part of this country's elite is laughable. I have no idea why the media, police and government seemingly pander to the McCann's bit their comparative wealth isn;t the reason | |||
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"The whole saga has stank from day one. What's with the McCanns that makes the authorities bend over backwards for them?" Something definatley stinks. I trained as a nurse and years a go a colleague was investigated by the GMC for leaving the drugs trolley unlocked to run and see to and emergency yet 2 middle class doctors administer drugs illegally to their kids so they could got out without them and not a word said x | |||
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"Might as well just let Kate McCann kick poor Kerry Needham in the face. C***s!" Ben Needham was allowed to play outside where heavy plant was operating and got run over killed and buried. That is also neglect. | |||
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"The whole saga has stank from day one. What's with the McCanns that makes the authorities bend over backwards for them? Cos they have money and money talks But they don't, well not the sort of money that buys this sort of influence. They aren't poor but the notion that a hospital consultant is part of this country's elite is laughable. I have no idea why the media, police and government seemingly pander to the McCann's bit their comparative wealth isn;t the reason" I do believe though they were provided with top notch legal advice where I do think they got on a discount rate.. | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The facts still remain clear to me that the parents left the children in a hotel room alone while they wined and dined...had this happened to an average working class family or even benefits claimants their whole life would of been dragged through the mud and I doubt the amount of money would of been spent on the search. I will always think the parents had something to do with it! " But on the flip side, because they're relatively affluent, they're immediately hated and accused of abusing influence and manipulating the investigation. I can't discount they had something to with it, or that their decisions were poor. But for people to make statements of their guilt and intent as more than just opinion smacks of lynch mob mentality. | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The facts still remain clear to me that the parents left the children in a hotel room alone while they wined and dined...had this happened to an average working class family or even benefits claimants their whole life would of been dragged through the mud and I doubt the amount of money would of been spent on the search. I will always think the parents had something to do with it! But on the flip side, because they're relatively affluent, they're immediately hated and accused of abusing influence and manipulating the investigation. I can't discount they had something to with it, or that their decisions were poor. But for people to make statements of their guilt and intent as more than just opinion smacks of lynch mob mentality. " I've never had a lynch mob mentality I can't I'm my normal world I'm pretty level headed person who see things from all angles but I think we are going up have a different opinion regarding this and I do still believe the parents had some part to play...it's all too muddy for me | |||
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"The whole saga has stank from day one. What's with the McCanns that makes the authorities bend over backwards for them? Cos they have money and money talks But they don't, well not the sort of money that buys this sort of influence. They aren't poor but the notion that a hospital consultant is part of this country's elite is laughable. I have no idea why the media, police and government seemingly pander to the McCann's bit their comparative wealth isn;t the reason" That's my thoughts, when it happened my eldest two were the same age Maddie and the twins, and I recall thinking how stupid of them to be left alone, and the feeling that she wouldn't be found, sadly I've not been proved wrong. Something does feel odd about the whole case, with it being such a tragic case you'd expect more compassion despite their wrongdoing. Ginger | |||
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"Victims of Grenfell have still not been rehoused but the government have money for this " Because they have yet to find long term affordable housing...and also many have refused offers of long term housing as it's not in their preferred areas.. | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The facts still remain clear to me that the parents left the children in a hotel room alone while they wined and dined...had this happened to an average working class family or even benefits claimants their whole life would of been dragged through the mud and I doubt the amount of money would of been spent on the search. I will always think the parents had something to do with it! But on the flip side, because they're relatively affluent, they're immediately hated and accused of abusing influence and manipulating the investigation. I can't discount they had something to with it, or that their decisions were poor. But for people to make statements of their guilt and intent as more than just opinion smacks of lynch mob mentality. " Thwey weren;t immediately hated. For days this was the lead news story with huge public sympathy and support. They wouldn;t have raised over a million in donations without huge support. It was some time before the questions and cynicism started, fuelled in part by the McCann;s constant self publicising and the realisation that the donations weren;t to a charity and had merely bankrolled them by paying their mortgage | |||
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"Whatever happened to her we may never find out, but I know one thing if she was my child I would beg borrow and steal for the funds to help me find her or the truth behind her disappearance" But would you pay off your mortgage with donations? | |||
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"Whatever happened to her we may never find out, but I know one thing if she was my child I would beg borrow and steal for the funds to help me find her or the truth behind her disappearance" Me too | |||
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"Whatever happened to her we may never find out, but I know one thing if she was my child I would beg borrow and steal for the funds to help me find her or the truth behind her disappearance But would you pay off your mortgage with donations? " I don't know all the details so just looked it up, Money was made available for the family's living expenses and they made two payments on their mortgage | |||
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"Whatever happened to her we may never find out, but I know one thing if she was my child I would beg borrow and steal for the funds to help me find her or the truth behind her disappearance But would you pay off your mortgage with donations? I don't know all the details so just looked it up, Money was made available for the family's living expenses and they made two payments on their mortgage " I found that info online too. Neither of them were working at the time but Gerry was about to go back to work so it seems it was just to help them out at that time. | |||
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"Victims of Grenfell have still not been rehoused but the government have money for this Because they have yet to find long term affordable housing...and also many have refused offers of long term housing as it's not in their preferred areas.. " Ah well that makes it ok then, obviously They've offered the Grenfell victims £20mill to share between 140 people and given this idiot family £11mill for their daughter | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money?" The investigators won't look at it. In the UK investigation, they won't start from scratch and try to find out what happened. Their mandate is to start off with it was an abduction, and investigate it as an abduction. The Portuguese police started their investigation properly, by starting from scratch trying to find what happened. They didn't start off with a theory/conclusion I.e. it was an abduction. Criminal profiler Pat Brown has gone on record against the McCanns. Again I recommend statement analyst Peter Hyatt. Www.Hyatt analysis.com which I find pretty fascinating. He trains the FBI at their academy in Quantico. There is a YouTube video I recently discovered, pretty much by accident, where Hyatt speaks in depth about the McCanns. I find it quite hard to argue with it. I trust that more than I trust the official media version. | |||
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"Another £154,000 has been given to the police to continue the search for Maddie McCann. Total so far £11 million. I’m not sure they will ever find her. I’m also unsure that other cases get equal treatment. " in london eve standard. Scotland Yard records children as absent for a maximum of 24 hours before they are upgraded to missing. All under-13s are recorded as missing. The report found each missing person investigation costs police on average between £1,325 and £2,415 | |||
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"Don't get me started about this It makes my blood boil that they get all this funding Yet other cases have had funding stopped I stick with that the poor little girl is not alive and her parents know this " | |||
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"Victims of Grenfell have still not been rehoused but the government have money for this Because they have yet to find long term affordable housing...and also many have refused offers of long term housing as it's not in their preferred areas.. " The ones who falsely claimed loss of loved ones got free housing. Courtesy of HMP | |||
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"The problem is this stuff isn't reported in the media, or if it is, only to be handwaved away, such as Kate's "oh she raided mummy's makeup bag" explanation. This is the main reason most people might struggle to hear a lot of this stuff. It's just not what we're used to hearing!" There has been lots of negative stuff about them reported in the media. We are used to hearing/reading negative reports about them. | |||
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"It should be spent on tourcher treatment on the McCanns so they finally tell everyone where her body is. " Did you really type that ? | |||
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"Another £154,000 has been given to the police to continue the search for Maddie McCann. Total so far £11 million. I’m not sure they will ever find her. I’m also unsure that other cases get equal treatment. " If we could keep child abduction off Fab that'd be great. Thanks | |||
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"Another £154,000 has been given to the police to continue the search for Maddie McCann. Total so far £11 million. I’m not sure they will ever find her. I’m also unsure that other cases get equal treatment. If we could keep child abduction off Fab that'd be great. Thanks" Why ? | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ??" The last lot of the landfill site search was funded by his parents. There has been nothing but issues into the search for him since day 1. | |||
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"The investigation into the missing RAF guy has been dropped Could it be that he was perhaps too unconventional in his recreational activities and not a middle class Dr ?? The last lot of the landfill site search was funded by his parents. There has been nothing but issues into the search for him since day 1." Police admitted yesterday that they may have been searching in the wrong area of the landfill site, and possibly even the wrong landfill site. You just couldn’t make that shit up!! | |||
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"Another £154,000 has been given to the police to continue the search for Maddie McCann. Total so far £11 million. I’m not sure they will ever find her. I’m also unsure that other cases get equal treatment. " # Why do they get funding when other parents do not. they almost certainly are responsible for her death or abduction and should be charged with child neglect. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... " Nah, that would involve those people actually thinking and using logic rather than just being judgemental and cynical. That's much easier. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... Nah, that would involve those people actually thinking and using logic rather than just being judgemental and cynical. That's much easier." Indeed. These conspiracy theories do my head in. All notions of probability and logic go out of the window in the desire to think the worst of people. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... " . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction " You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? " . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point " So you are saying that the police will not have looked at other possibilities? It doesn't matter what theories the McCanns put forward, by keeping the case in the public eye and badgering the police , they are increasing the chances that, if they were responsible, they will be found out. This, given their behaviour since the disappearance, the likelihood they are responsible is vanishingly small. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point " You honestly think that a police investigation is that one dimensional?? Also if it has only been treated as an abduction as you so authoritively state why were cadaver dogs used? | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point You honestly think that a police investigation is that one dimensional?? Also if it has only been treated as an abduction as you so authoritively state why were cadaver dogs used? " . That was the Portuguese police investigation which concluded that the McCanns were in someway responsible!. Yes I agree the Portuguese police never thought it was an abduction because there was no evidence of one. But alas more to my point of why the McCanns have to keep the case in constant public attention is because it's ALWAYS pushed as an abduction by them, that puts a mindset in the publics subconscious. Its probably why you think there's been an abduction despite no evidence of one | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point So you are saying that the police will not have looked at other possibilities? It doesn't matter what theories the McCanns put forward, by keeping the case in the public eye and badgering the police , they are increasing the chances that, if they were responsible, they will be found out. This, given their behaviour since the disappearance, the likelihood they are responsible is vanishingly small. " Besides the differences between an abduction and murder enquiry are going to be negligible. It's not as though they deduce that because there's no body, they won't bother with forensics or crime scene management? Everyday thousands of pounds are spent on all sorts of items by the UK and as stated thus is just peanuts. Some of the vitriolic hate based on pure speculation on this thread is rather disturbing. The suggestions at how the family are privileged and treated differently are nothing short of reverse snobbery and a rather hateful outlook. Ultimately none of us are affected by the investigation, so why so angry? | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The investigators won't look at it. In the UK investigation, they won't start from scratch and try to find out what happened. Their mandate is to start off with it was an abduction, and investigate it as an abduction. The Portuguese police started their investigation properly, by starting from scratch trying to find what happened. They didn't start off with a theory/conclusion I.e. it was an abduction. Criminal profiler Pat Brown has gone on record against the McCanns. Again I recommend statement analyst Peter Hyatt. Www.Hyatt analysis.com which I find pretty fascinating. He trains the FBI at their academy in Quantico. There is a YouTube video I recently discovered, pretty much by accident, where Hyatt speaks in depth about the McCanns. I find it quite hard to argue with it. I trust that more than I trust the official media version. " Here on fab we are often told to trust our instincts as they are seldom wrong. Peter Hyatt certainly puts forward very convincing conclusions, some of which back up the gut instincts that many people have around this case. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point So you are saying that the police will not have looked at other possibilities? It doesn't matter what theories the McCanns put forward, by keeping the case in the public eye and badgering the police , they are increasing the chances that, if they were responsible, they will be found out. This, given their behaviour since the disappearance, the likelihood they are responsible is vanishingly small. Besides the differences between an abduction and murder enquiry are going to be negligible. It's not as though they deduce that because there's no body, they won't bother with forensics or crime scene management? Everyday thousands of pounds are spent on all sorts of items by the UK and as stated thus is just peanuts. Some of the vitriolic hate based on pure speculation on this thread is rather disturbing. The suggestions at how the family are privileged and treated differently are nothing short of reverse snobbery and a rather hateful outlook. Ultimately none of us are affected by the investigation, so why so angry?" . That's blatantly untrue, the extra 2 million pounds is being earmarked for chasing leads on possible abducters, the last few million was also used for this purpose, that's chasing abducters that you have no evidence exist or were there or were seen by anyone at all and that you have no forensics that even point to it. It's mass madness | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The investigators won't look at it. In the UK investigation, they won't start from scratch and try to find out what happened. Their mandate is to start off with it was an abduction, and investigate it as an abduction. The Portuguese police started their investigation properly, by starting from scratch trying to find what happened. They didn't start off with a theory/conclusion I.e. it was an abduction. Criminal profiler Pat Brown has gone on record against the McCanns. Again I recommend statement analyst Peter Hyatt. Www.Hyatt analysis.com which I find pretty fascinating. He trains the FBI at their academy in Quantico. There is a YouTube video I recently discovered, pretty much by accident, where Hyatt speaks in depth about the McCanns. I find it quite hard to argue with it. I trust that more than I trust the official media version. Here on fab we are often told to trust our instincts as they are seldom wrong. Peter Hyatt certainly puts forward very convincing conclusions, some of which back up the gut instincts that many people have around this case. " People will look for and believe "evidence" that supports their gut instinct it doesn't make it fact. If you search YouTube long enough it's possible to find things that support almost any belief. | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point You honestly think that a police investigation is that one dimensional?? Also if it has only been treated as an abduction as you so authoritively state why were cadaver dogs used? . That was the Portuguese police investigation which concluded that the McCanns were in someway responsible!. Yes I agree the Portuguese police never thought it was an abduction because there was no evidence of one. But alas more to my point of why the McCanns have to keep the case in constant public attention is because it's ALWAYS pushed as an abduction by them, that puts a mindset in the publics subconscious. Its probably why you think there's been an abduction despite no evidence of one" Whereas if they had kept quiet about it since 2008 the general public would have forgotten about it by now. But obviously the best way for killers to get away with murder is to keep drawing the polices attention to themselves and saying "you know that child that many people suspect us of murdering, well we didn't, she was abducted". | |||
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"OK there is a lot of speculation and hearsay going on. Fact to date despite the massive amount of funds, time and effort from our police and the Portuguese police they have not been able to get any evidence to charge the family. They have not found a body. I am neither on their side or against them. I am just stating fact. If the final enquiry finds evidence that the parents are guilty then I hope that they rot in hell. But just imagine their torment should they actually be innocent? I agree with that they should have been changed with neglected or something leaving the kid's alone as a parent I think it's just unforgivable. But all these people claiming that they have heard evidence from this source or from YouTube or foreign press. If you know of evidence that proves guilt then provide it to the police not post it on a swinging website. If as people are claiming that this is a massive cover-up due to their status then they must have some hugely powerful friends to be able to sway two countries police forces. I really hope that they find out what happened I really do and little Maddie can finally rest in peace." I agree with you. | |||
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" There's a lot of people stating that the family are lying and covering up. Perhaps you could pass on the factual evidence you have, to the investigators to save money? The investigators won't look at it. In the UK investigation, they won't start from scratch and try to find out what happened. Their mandate is to start off with it was an abduction, and investigate it as an abduction. The Portuguese police started their investigation properly, by starting from scratch trying to find what happened. They didn't start off with a theory/conclusion I.e. it was an abduction. Criminal profiler Pat Brown has gone on record against the McCanns. Again I recommend statement analyst Peter Hyatt. Www.Hyatt analysis.com which I find pretty fascinating. He trains the FBI at their academy in Quantico. There is a YouTube video I recently discovered, pretty much by accident, where Hyatt speaks in depth about the McCanns. I find it quite hard to argue with it. I trust that more than I trust the official media version. Here on fab we are often told to trust our instincts as they are seldom wrong. Peter Hyatt certainly puts forward very convincing conclusions, some of which back up the gut instincts that many people have around this case. People will look for and believe "evidence" that supports their gut instinct it doesn't make it fact. If you search YouTube long enough it's possible to find things that support almost any belief. " I think that ANY conclusions, whichever way they point, which have been put forward by an expert who trains law enforcement and the fbi, a person who has a 100% record in criminal cases have to be pretty considered pretty reliable don’t you? | |||
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"Would all those people accusing the McCanns like to explain why they have moved heaven and earth to try to find their daughter. Surely if they were responsible they would keep quiet and let the story fade away. Isn't it bleeding obvious that the more the story stays in the public eye, the more chance there is they would be found out... . It's the old magicians trick! If your continually looking for an "abducted" child your not really looking for the killer!. There's no evidence Maddie was abducted, there's no evidence or eyewitness of an abductee, in the absence of evidence you start at the last people to see the child alive, that's just basic police practice yet still it's constantly referred to as an abduction case despite no evidence of such. Every apparent story of some new eyewitness seeing a suspicious character or a weird guy carrying a small child or some renowned pedophilie living in some part or close to the apartment or similar attempted abduction always leads back to the McCanns so called self appointed pr or private detective agency. The McCanns have spent millions of charity money and the UK police have spent 12 million and the Portuguese police have spent 7 million and still there's no evidence of any abduction You really don't think that when a child goes missing the parents aren't investigated? Of course they are. Anyway that doesn't answer my question. If the McCanns did do it and managed to deflect the police at the time, why on earth would they spend a huge amount of time and money keeping the story in the public eye and badgering the police to keep investigating when it would have otherwise drifted out of public and police consciousness. If they did it, the more attention they draw to the disappearance the greater likelihood they would eventually be found out. Can you not see that? . I can see that you didn't read what I wrote. . The attention is all about an abduction, always has been, always will be despite NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION.. there I underlined my point So you are saying that the police will not have looked at other possibilities? It doesn't matter what theories the McCanns put forward, by keeping the case in the public eye and badgering the police , they are increasing the chances that, if they were responsible, they will be found out. This, given their behaviour since the disappearance, the likelihood they are responsible is vanishingly small. Besides the differences between an abduction and murder enquiry are going to be negligible. It's not as though they deduce that because there's no body, they won't bother with forensics or crime scene management? Everyday thousands of pounds are spent on all sorts of items by the UK and as stated thus is just peanuts. Some of the vitriolic hate based on pure speculation on this thread is rather disturbing. The suggestions at how the family are privileged and treated differently are nothing short of reverse snobbery and a rather hateful outlook. Ultimately none of us are affected by the investigation, so why so angry?. That's blatantly untrue, the extra 2 million pounds is being earmarked for chasing leads on possible abducters, the last few million was also used for this purpose, that's chasing abducters that you have no evidence exist or were there or were seen by anyone at all and that you have no forensics that even point to it. It's mass madness " It's a natural investigative assumption, that if a parent states their child is not where they left them, to assume they've either left, been taken or been subject to harm. The investigative process won't have been that different. Maybe I'm missing your point? | |||
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"A simple lie detector test would solve a lot I think " Not if they are sociopaths lie detectors dont work on them thats why police cant use them | |||
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