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"What do we think Putin's next move is gonna be now. It's getting serious now "Has there been more today? | |||
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"What do we think Putin's next move is gonna be now. It's getting serious now "The whole world is getting fucked up what with Putin and Trump and the little fat twat in Korea. It is scary because these are dangerous people who give no thought for consequences of their actions. | |||
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"What do we think Putin's next move is gonna be now. It's getting serious now
Has there been more today? "More expulsions by many countries . But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . And I'm far more concerned with his weapons than Kim's cornflake packet Blue Peter weapons. | |||
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"What do we think Putin's next move is gonna be now. It's getting serious now
The whole world is getting fucked up what with Putin and Trump and the little fat twat in Korea.
It is scary because these are dangerous people who give no thought for consequences of their actions. "and Britain, don't forget the cunts in Britain. | |||
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"And what exactly is Putin supposed to have done now (as reported by a hostile western main stream media controlled in the main by American neocons)?" 
The media and B.B.C do a good job on the public. | |||
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"What do we think Putin's next move is gonna be now. It's getting serious now
The whole world is getting fucked up what with Putin and Trump and the little fat twat in Korea.
It is scary because these are dangerous people who give no thought for consequences of their actions.
and Britain, don't forget the cunts in Britain."No, Britain never do anything wrong. It's either America, Russia, France, Korea, Germany, Spain, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran.... Britain is the guardian angel of the world. All hail Britain. | |||
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"And what exactly is Putin supposed to have done now (as reported by a hostile western main stream media controlled in the main by American neocons)?
The media and B.B.C do a good job on the public."Are you seriously defending him ?? The whole world knows he ordered these attacks !! | |||
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". But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . " As opposed to the Americans invading everyone? While Vladimir Putin and his government are not beyond criticism – in fact, far from it – their misdeeds pale in comparison to the record of Western governments in destroying one country after the other in the Middle East. The media's nonsense about Putin having expansionist aims is an attempt to throw a smokescreen over the West’s own expansionist agenda in Eastern Europe with the goal of throwing a cordon sanitaire around Russia in pursuit of a cold war agenda. Of course the western media has been rewriting the agenda for many years. If it wasn't for Russia we'd all be speaking German now as their contribution (and losses) to the fight against Hitler was way greater than the the British and American contribution combined. As the historian Max hastings says "It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," | |||
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" Are you seriously defending him ?? The whole world knows he ordered these attacks !!" And your evidence is what exactly? Ah yes the same western government spin and media nonsense that told us Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and we should invade leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people - when of course it was all about seizing control of oil. | |||
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" Are you seriously defending him ?? The whole world knows he ordered these attacks !! And your evidence is what exactly? Ah yes the same western government spin and media nonsense that told us Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and we should invade leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people - when of course it was all about seizing control of oil. " I agree that was our fault. But that doesn't mean that this entirely separate issue has to be our fault too. Not everything has to be our fault!! | |||
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". But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . As opposed to the Americans invading everyone? While Vladimir Putin and his government are not beyond criticism – in fact, far from it – their misdeeds pale in comparison to the record of Western governments in destroying one country after the other in the Middle East. The media's nonsense about Putin having expansionist aims is an attempt to throw a smokescreen over the West’s own expansionist agenda in Eastern Europe with the goal of throwing a cordon sanitaire around Russia in pursuit of a cold war agenda. Of course the western media has been rewriting the agenda for many years. If it wasn't for Russia we'd all be speaking German now as their contribution (and losses) to the fight against Hitler was way greater than the the British and American contribution combined. As the historian Max hastings says "It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance,"" 70 odd year old history is irrelevant. Shall we blame the West now because of the 19th century slave trade ffs ?? | |||
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". But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . As opposed to the Americans invading everyone? While Vladimir Putin and his government are not beyond criticism – in fact, far from it – their misdeeds pale in comparison to the record of Western governments in destroying one country after the other in the Middle East. The media's nonsense about Putin having expansionist aims is an attempt to throw a smokescreen over the West’s own expansionist agenda in Eastern Europe with the goal of throwing a cordon sanitaire around Russia in pursuit of a cold war agenda. Of course the western media has been rewriting the agenda for many years. If it wasn't for Russia we'd all be speaking German now as their contribution (and losses) to the fight against Hitler was way greater than the the British and American contribution combined. As the historian Max hastings says "It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance,"" Exactly. What Putin going to do Next?just show how people are influence by medias and non by facts. Comparing the US invasions Vs Russian invasions would lead anybody to logically be afraid of the US. Yet most of people are more afraid of Russia or Iran or even North Korea. Which I get but at the same they invanded far less countries than the us. | |||
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". But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . As opposed to the Americans invading everyone? While Vladimir Putin and his government are not beyond criticism – in fact, far from it – their misdeeds pale in comparison to the record of Western governments in destroying one country after the other in the Middle East. The media's nonsense about Putin having expansionist aims is an attempt to throw a smokescreen over the West’s own expansionist agenda in Eastern Europe with the goal of throwing a cordon sanitaire around Russia in pursuit of a cold war agenda. Of course the western media has been rewriting the agenda for many years. If it wasn't for Russia we'd all be speaking German now as their contribution (and losses) to the fight against Hitler was way greater than the the British and American contribution combined. As the historian Max hastings says "It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," 70 odd year old history is irrelevant. Shall we blame the West now because of the 19th century slave trade ffs ??" Or as you would like we can sweep it under the carpet and act perfect until the next time the West shows its just as bad if not worse but then again we can just sweep that under the carpet too whenever a non western power acts out of line. | |||
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". But my worry is that Putin thinks he can take on the world . As opposed to the Americans invading everyone? While Vladimir Putin and his government are not beyond criticism – in fact, far from it – their misdeeds pale in comparison to the record of Western governments in destroying one country after the other in the Middle East. The media's nonsense about Putin having expansionist aims is an attempt to throw a smokescreen over the West’s own expansionist agenda in Eastern Europe with the goal of throwing a cordon sanitaire around Russia in pursuit of a cold war agenda. Of course the western media has been rewriting the agenda for many years. If it wasn't for Russia we'd all be speaking German now as their contribution (and losses) to the fight against Hitler was way greater than the the British and American contribution combined. As the historian Max hastings says "It was the Western Allies’ extreme good fortune that the Russians, and not themselves, paid almost the entire ‘butcher’s bill’ for [defeating Nazi Germany], accepting 95 per cent of the military casualties of the three major powers of the Grand Alliance," 70 odd year old history is irrelevant. Shall we blame the West now because of the 19th century slave trade ffs ?? Or as you would like we can sweep it under the carpet and act perfect until the next time the West shows its just as bad if not worse but then again we can just sweep that under the carpet too whenever a non western power acts out of line. " But this is a discussion about one issue that's happening now . What has any countries previous 100 year old digressions got to do with this please ?? | |||
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". 70 odd year old history is irrelevant. " Not in the context of the west trying to rewrite history; the west actions since 1945 have been far more aggressive than Russia's. I could list them but just Google for the list of American interventions/invasions since 1945 and compare them to Russia | |||
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"He can puff his chest out and act threatening but he knows NATO as a combined force could inflict massive losses on his conscripted army in a ground war." I'm not sure he is, NATO as a fighting force is seriously disjointed, there's no true centralised command in the field and for NATO to be able to deploy a force in any sort of numbers to repulse a Russian attack would take months, probably longer. Current hope amongst NATO planners (and I know one) is that if a ground war were to begin we would have 'enough air superiority' to slow down their forces until NATO could ship enough Americans over. It's all academic as it won't happen. Russia and Western Governments use this status quo to actually get business done amongst themselves. | |||
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". 70 odd year old history is irrelevant. Not in the context of the west trying to rewrite history; the west actions since 1945 have been far more aggressive than Russia's. I could list them but just Google for the list of American interventions/invasions since 1945 and compare them to Russia" Yes that maybe but my point is on this one single issue . I don't care about past issues . This is now!! What is your opinion on this issue . Do we believe that Putin ordered these attacks or not?? | |||
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". Do we believe that Putin ordered these attacks or not??" If you're referring to the Salisbury events - there is not the slightest bit of evidence that he did (can't be ruled out though) nor does it make the slightest bit of sense for him to do so “Comrade Putin, we have successfully stockpiled novichoks in secret for ten years, and kept them hidden from the OPCW inspectors. We have also trained our agents in secret novichok assassination techniques. The programme has cost hundreds of millions of dollars, but now we are ready. Naturally, the first time we use it we will expose our secret and suffer massive international blowback. So who should be our first target? The head of a foreign intelligence agency? A leading jihadist rebel in Syria? A key nuclear scientist? Even a Head of State?” “No, Tovarich. There is this old retired guy I know living in Salisbury. We released him from jail years ago…” | |||
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"And what exactly is Putin supposed to have done now (as reported by a hostile western main stream media controlled in the main by American neocons)?" Do you think that the other sovereign states have made their decisions to expel based on the media? Or is it possible that they have either seen the evidence and taking into consideration some of the behaviour of the Russian state over the past several years have decided to send a message to Putin? | |||
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"Putin isn't an idiot, he will not admit to anything although he probably knew about it. He won't deliberately Stoke the West fire but he knows that constantly feeding it for years will ignite somebody to blow and attack first. Then Putin can claim the west are the evil aggressors, gain support from China and the west has no choice but to back down and allow Putin free reign. " Finally a sensible outlook. I agree | |||
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"There's a big military build up going on in eastern Europe at the moment, and countries like Estonia and Slovenia are bringing back conscription. Ask any of them or the Poles if they want to be back under Russian control...." | |||
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"And what exactly is Putin supposed to have done now (as reported by a hostile western main stream media controlled in the main by American neocons)? Do you think that the other sovereign states have made their decisions to expel based on the media? Or is it possible that they have either seen the evidence and taking into consideration some of the behaviour of the Russian state over the past several years have decided to send a message to Putin? " Absolutely | |||
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"The next unease will be seen in Denmark where there's diplomatic row brewing over the laying of gas pipeline supplying Europe. Russian gas is exported but there's several major US and European companies involved. Denmark has sided with Europe in expelling diplomats but it puts it in a tricky position to approve the pipeline as it will aid Russia under sanctions I believe. Russia is also leaning heavily on Denmark to approve it." It's madness for any nation to be hostage to the power of another who can seriously mess up one's society in turning off part of the energy supplies.. | |||
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" Ask any of them or the Poles if they want to be back under Russian control...." Ask them if first and formost they were not betrayed by the Western powers on several occasions including Yalta. In particular that a secret meeting was arranged at which Roosevelt unilaterally ceded Polish territory to Stalin in exchange for assurances that Russia would ally itself with the US in the Pacifc War. The deal was done without Churchill having known about it beforehand. | |||
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"Russia could walk in and take UK our army is so small now about the size it was before ww1.. " Except it would invoke article 5 and all of NATO would have to get involved. Our army is smaller than it should be though and I highly doubt generation snowflake would rally as a nation to fight off an invader the way the British did in WW2. | |||
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"Russia could walk in and take UK our army is so small now about the size it was before ww1.. " It's unlikely any army would ever get involved in any world war nowadays. Sanctions play such a heavy toll that if any weapons were to be used, one of the first counter-strikes would come in the form of a technological strike. If it didn't then someone isn't using all the tools in the box. | |||
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"There's a big military build up going on in eastern Europe at the moment, and countries like Estonia and Slovenia are bringing back conscription. Ask any of them or the Poles if they want to be back under Russian control...." This is true, there is and I understand that. The trouble is that whilst the Russian army is a conscript army themselves they can field many more divisions than the West can. The Russian strategy being to swamp NATO's forces with sheer numbers. Even at the height of NATO's strength in the early 80's it was accepted that any conventional ground war would be one of attrition that Russia would probably win. For NATO forces to be able to push back a Russian assault we'd need to see a return of the numbers of forces that the US had deployed during the 80's and that would take too long. | |||
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"Did he send a cock pick? Or is he not single?" He’s detached not attached. | |||
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